it is clear that he will get some kind of tumor. or , for example, he will uh get a myocardial infarction or some other disease. this is especially important for these rare orphan diseases, as we call them in children. uh, because uh. hmm, they analyze mutations, uh, of which there can be anywhere from 2 to 2,000 in the same disease, and why is this analysis important? uh, because not all drugs. u act u different patents from the same disease, so we now have to go for it gene here is a personalized for children on u, what u it happens both here and in serbia somehow artificial. uh, there's a feud going on between uh, doctors and molecular biologists, and so forth. it shouldn't exist. here is the one that should decide. artra who

will receive what kind of therapy? this is a doctor, but uh , the organization of the training of doctors should be completely different, and these some we call them, uh, basic sciences. uh, they should, uh , mostly participate in the education of our doctors. uh, both active doctors and doctors and students of ours. so what is happening here is happening and also in serbia and what will be good in serbia. uh, tatyana yakovlevna said very well that the best way to personalized medicine and personalized therapy would be, uh, many specialists. e different areas in one place. this is exactly what will be created in belgrade, uh, it will be called biofor , there will be three pharmaceutical medical faculties and a biological uh, all those that are related to uh human

health, so i think it will be one experiment. i hope that we will exchange art and experience both in russia and in serbia and uh, there can be, uh, very good cooperation between our countries. you just said both russia and serbia in russia today, of course, a very important issue - this is independence, then medicines in drugs, the ability to choose treatment strategies and surgery only for yourself. how relevant is this issue for serbia, how free can serbia be in this issue? it is very relevant, of course, we cannot count it. uh, i just heard that even 80% of their medicines are already being produced. here, maybe not in the quantities that you need, but you produce, you know, we went through sanctions in the nineties there was a war, then the name, then they came. but the nineties

were ours. uh, state-owned enterprises are theoretical and we have some uh, drugs have always been available, but unfortunately, after the 2000s. uh, it all passed in an hour, and not only in particular , but not ours not now, but for foreigners , uh, we have these factories, uh, the medicines that are produced there we have, but we depend a lot on uh foreign. uh, especially big uh , pharmaceutical companies like net-crash, especially this new money we call drugs, uh, which are applied not only to ecology, but to neuroscience. e immunology. ah, rheumatology. well, uh, there could be collaboration here too, and i hope we get something done. make sure that at least they do not depend on only

one side. uh, very high quality medicines in china and india and russia, and why not be able to, uh, give our patients these medicines when we, uh, especially we learn that almost all substances are made in china and only packaging is produced in western countries. and we also had a package. uh, satellite is like that, but it's also being considered as drug production. well, we'll see. we are now doing everything to revive the embrace of our immunological institute, which produced and completed the production of the satellite. uh. he has not been at a good level for the past 20 years. but we are doing now, uh, everything to u become uh, again u vaccine to a sovereign state, because

that the people working there, the scientists promised me if they get all the equipment, new buildings and the rest in 6 years. we can have all our vaccines. and this is good. this is wonderful and one more question that i cannot but ask you as a citizen of serbia as a doctor, of course, is connected with the war in yugoslavia you mentioned, the bombings that you were subjected to by nato and the shells with a tip from the united uranium, we already spoke about ukraine urged to prevent the use of such ammunition, who supplied asked them not to do this. was there any reaction to this call, and what do you say, to those scientists, including those from the west and from the uk from america , who say that it is absolutely safe and that ammunition has not been proven to be associated with an increase in the incidence of oncology. e. not systematically proven and

scientific proven we do see e people who were e in close proximity. the ex. with these words, uh, we are not talking, but radiation, you know radiation. small but nanoparticles. this 10 to -9. they enter your body through the lungs in the intestinal epochs and, uh, it only depends on your immunological system, but the state of your immunological system, when uh is an alpha particle, which sees very ends of the curse from uh, the nucleus of uranus, which is united, which you already have and from a normal cell will make it malignant. so people who say there is no danger. they don’t understand what an office is and they are completely irresponsible when they talk about it. yes, radiation is small, but to us.

particles they just make, e from a normal cell and a malignant cell and from your ionic state. uh, the immune system is dependent on, uh, the multiplication of this cell will be such that the immunological system can't stop it or not? what we saw we saw, where people were vkontakte with shells, not only that they developed cancer. but what are you, these oncological diseases were uh, more aggressive than before the year 2000, and in addition, u appeared to say to u the old man that a man, especially like cone currents, so and in serbia, uh, and who are immunological diseases? uh, also, we believe that against serbia, montenegro, and then there was a chemical war and uh, of course, uh, zero and because we

saw what consequences of the combined uranium they do not forget and cancer do not forget, siri do not forget. uh, just uh, these people will live in ukraine. it won't be a healthy living environment there. and the people will suffer, what is the worst in 5-10-15 20 and who else knows? how many years? we can now talk about the consequences of serbia uh, oh one little parts of serbia after 20 years. but we don’t know what will happen in 50, and the most terrible thing is that the consequences go to the offspring of children, because the chromosomal operations that are in the germ cells, and they are registered in our military, which were , uh, these territories, where there were shells with

a combined one, and even after 4 years they found them. but, unfortunately, after 4 years they were no longer followed. but we can do this for another hour. eh, only the good will of the state is needed. and, of course, a few money nothing more, we wrote this one here monograph e is true about the consequences of that aggression. e serbia in the ninety-ninth year. the monograph was written by scientists who were engaged not only in growth, but oncological diseases, but also in the destruction of animals in the environment. eh, he died. uh and bakari, kanta who was in the name of uh, said in april 1999 in serbia that this was a reactionary ecological catastrophe. and if you are now watching a deadly

disease, and in europe, and it is the highest in serbia hungary croatia why i would very much like to be heard today not only by our spectators in russia other our spectators in other states who played ready to ukraine let's enjoy this is a nuclear war. trust me, you won't see it. now i'm sitting for a minute, well, we'll see in five years, please don't. thank you very much. danja sugroviću, minister of health of serbia was our guest anna , i give the floor to you. anastasia thank you now next to me, uh head of the russian environmental operator denis gutsaev denis petrovich hello. let's talk about investments in the environmental sector. how many are they still needed and what role do bonds play in this?

the total amount of investments that will be required for the construction of infrastructure necessary to achieve the targets set by the presidential decree, and according to our estimates, about 500 billion are required . at the moment, from 130-140 billion have already been invested the end of the twenty -fourth year and for the second conditional five-year plan until the thirtieth year. it remains for us to test the second half in this regard. ugh naturally. in this respect green bonds are one of the most. ah, i would say a popular and sought-after instrument for investment in a-a infrastructure, at the present time. we have already placed on we have registered a 100 billion issue on behalf of the government. the lies were placed for more than 20 billion, and the bonds they were in rather high demand were received very well and, moreover, by different

investors in this regard. it's not only. banal market participants are not only large banks, which we primarily focused on, but including private investment group and oddly enough, private investors. in this regard, we received 80 applications from various categories of investors for one of our issues, which rate was quite attractive. we are now operating on the market. this is higher than 11%, but at the same time, thanks to the amount of support that the government of the russian federation provides to the program to the investor, that is, the recipient of money, we bring the supply to an average of about 5%, which is more than two times less than the current market rate for raising money , what in in your plans in your plans is expanding the program we currently have more than 70 regions of russia are already cooperating within the framework of green bonds with us on the construction of infrastructure facilities. we are building e-ecotechnoparks within the framework of the federal cycle economy project and

eight of these parks. we are going into the twenty -fourth year, at the moment the design work has been completed and from this month we will start construction. these sites will house enterprises for deep processing of waste. this is a logical continuation project, uh, related to the creation of infrastructure for waste, where you and i receive the selected fraction a within the framework of the circular economy from the fraction, we receive raw materials and raw materials, we receive new types of products and three enterprises each. and these tamparks will already be producing finished products from recycled materials, which we will be able to consume in this respect within the framework of normal economic turnover. now the state duma is considering the extended producer responsibility project, in principle, this has been talked about quite a lot, but i want to once again it is very important to focus the attention of the audience on why this project is so important and what changes it really brings to projects. i would say that it is probably the cornerstone for our industry. and like some.

a while ago, the supervising deputy prime minister viktoria valerievna abramchenko, under whose leadership work was carried out related to changes in the institution of extended producer responsibility, as she said, this is probably one of the most complex uh laws in the environmental sphere at the moment, affecting a large quantity, and participants and interests, and it is precisely in this connection that we believe that the changes that were proposed by the government and supported by the president are currently in the duma, and we very much hope that our colleagues will consider it in the spring session, and it allows in this regard. i would say to restart the institution of extended producer responsibility by creating a full-fledged source of financing for the recycling industry, let me remind you everything that concerns the work of regional operators to call waste and sort waste. we have a present moment is covered by the tariff that citizens pay and this is 200 billion rubles, which the industry receives every year. but with

recycling we have. it was more difficult, since the institution of extended producer responsibility did not actually work. we received about 4 billion rubles. the weather, which was not enough for investment in capital expenditures, not in the operating room and, let's say , a restart, but rather with the resumption of the extended producer responsibility institution. we believe that recyclers will receive a strong economic incentive to implementation of their projects. as for the exchange of best practices, a number of western countries agree. hmm, russia is ahead of russia, in particular , in terms of the disposal of solid municipal waste. you somehow. share this experience here, so that it would be as if on what best practices, and russia to be guided. well , as i understand it, the question is whether we are not isolated from the modern experience that the bicycle exists, if it has already been invented, you will agree.

where it's invented, but for that matter no one interferes. we develop our own technologies in cases where the existing ones are not the most effective. and we see that our industry is young, not only for our country. our industry is young in general for the world, the world has thought about the problems of the anthropogenic impact negative from waste. not so long ago. unfortunately, now we see an aggravation of the situation due to the fact that the growth in the volume of waste was completely. uh, let's say unprepared in terms of infrastructure. not only in our country, but and in general around the world and those seventh continents of plastic waste that are currently being formed in the world's oceans. this is a waste, by the way, not so much of the russian federation, but actually of the countries of another part, er, hemisphere, and in this connection, in fact, with technology. we don't just exchange. in this regard, we are active active participants in the development

of new ones, if we talk about them. pathological solutions where they were created, we have the opportunity up to the present moment use all the latest developments. in fact, they belong to a wide number of countries and do not refer only to those that do not want to cooperate with us in this regard. but with regard to new technologies, we are quite successfully developing our own, and this is also gratifying due to the fact that these technologies have rather serious e-e export potential. we discuss the possibilities, for example, in e. works in countries such as vietnam myanmar african countries. it's interesting for us including, as well as for manufacturers of the corresponding equipment. that is, it is not even about imports, but about this process of technology. this is absolutely true and i will repeat it again. this is not a so-called localized technology. and these are technologies that actually were, but were created either in the conscious on

the territory of the russian federation and with their unique technological new regions quite actively we have now completed the development of two schemes out of four that we had to develop for each of the new regions, territorial schemes are a fundamental tool for the formation of infrastructure. we must understand. how much waste is generated, where they are generated, calculate the logistical routes and , in this respect, propose locations for the placement of relevant infrastructure facilities. the federal government has pledged enough, uh, serious financial resources for the implementation of these projects even after the completion of the territorial schemes. and this is the third quarter of this year. we will be able to start the first design project construction of relevant facilities in new territories. for waste, these are certain indicators, probably, of the success of re. and how are things here, if there are problems, which regions are the leaders, we had two

main indicators of how effective the reform is, i would say. the first indicator is the service coverage of the population. we started with a figure in the region of 60%. now he is approaching 90. the second is the collection. e money, because it is clear that without a tariff without e-e, corresponding payments, the industry will not be able to exist and if we started with an indicator less than sixty, that is, it was in the region of 50%. it's actually not a workable system for , shall we say, planned e. planned work , at the moment we have e, above e, the average for russia is above 90 91 92%. and i repeat, with the collection of e money from the population with a tariff , the situation in this respect is quite good, but with extended

producer responsibility. it was different in this regard, therefore, out of 211 objects that are currently built moment in russia 128 objects. these are processing facilities that are built with a source of return on investment in tariffs, and 49 facilities from recycling facilities, which in this respect are financed from the a of the so-called environmental fee authentication fee, expanded by all manufacturers and it is clearly quite clear that at the moment the pace is very lagging from the volume of construction of processing facilities, rio , how popular this service is in general. example we have 600 recyclers, which we see through the registry 282 regional operator of the participants of the trading platform, which we created a little more than six months ago, we have 850 currently trading volume, more than a billion. i

believe that for a fairly young interaction tool in the industry. this is a good indicator. what are the tasks facing the russian environmental operator? well, let's say, the foreseeable prospects of the year. the first task is to keep it stable, despite all the turbulences in the economy that we have, we can say that they are not reflected in a negative way and the task in this respect to make sure that in the future, ah, the industry does not experience difficulties. second. ah, all these projects that were launched, including, uh, thanks to the support of both the president and the government. i mean regulatory support for the creation of the rules of the game, here are all the investment projects that have been launched, but at the moment. i'm not afraid to say we're in an investment boom. we need to complete them in the twenty-fourth year so that we achieve the target indicators that we have for the federal project. well, and most importantly, to make our life cleaner cleaner and greener here. well, i would probably also

say that the main task is to change the behavioral culture. we must really ensure that each of us understands the difference between environmentally responsible behavior and environmentally irresponsible behavior. thanks a lot. let it be like that. let me remind you that the guests in our studio at the st. petersburg international economic forum. i was denis the head of the russian environmental operator. and i i give the floor to our second studio and anastasia efimova continues to say the most important information initiative. today is the start day of the st. petersburg international economic forum, and next to me is vladimir saldo, acting governor of the kherson region vladimir vasilievich hello and, of course, the first question related to the kakhovka hydroelectric power station is the situation. now, as far as i understand , it was decided to declare

an emergency situation there, moreover, on a federal scale , this state of emergency of the federal level, what does it give? what are the preferences? what opportunities opens up in order to eliminate the consequences? yes, this decision was supported today by a colleague of the ministry of emergency situations, the minister and hmm what he gives, well, before that last week. i signed my order, er, the introduction of a state of emergency, but it is local, that is, it is 15 km. the zone is a zone of flooding, and this already gave certain opportunities to attract more forces and means than is necessary in the usual version. well, the decision was made. we applied yesterday. uh, government to the president to declare a federal emergency. this is a completely different

scale. and this is for the entire region. they are only for the part that was flooded, respectively, all tests have already been included in the work. in fact, the plan has already been created. you know, even uh, well, i've been working for a long time. in fact, a manager. well, such a coherence of work, which is present precisely in this period. i see it, i feel it. here i am already filled with pride, our people. as a matter of fact, they see. it is they who understand that we have become part of that serious, strong underline of a strong, self-respecting large family. this is russia and the russian people. that's all. this is happening now and they have already started the elimination of the consequences, they are doing a lot of them , this and, of course, the restoration of destroyed housing, because all

the flooded housing buildings got into the flood zone 23.800. almost 24,000 people fell into the flood zone, that is, some of them have already been moved to one and a half thousand people are in temporary accommodation. we them moved departed. they're from where the water actually is right now, and it hasn't gone down yet completely partially partially. people themselves do not want to go very far, and they have not moved to a drier part and are waiting, but waiting for their animation, because it is important to know people, people, first of all, and they are set only to return and are set to develop everything that happens. this is actually speaking. the president is already planning to build a peaceful future , i emphasize. everything, the military part of the operation. she

will be finished and she will be finished with those the results that are staged ie. the threat of using our brothers against us will be eliminated, but what is he doing now? western technology. they are doing all this on purpose in order to pit us, but the goal is the goal now they will not be achieved, and ours will be reached, people will be divided. well, literally on one side of the river live people who live with russia on the other side of the river, many of these people, at least they support ukraine and believe that the kiev regime, which shelled absolutely peaceful citizens who shelled the people who tried to evacuate the incoming water, which

killed this poor pregnant woman , terrible things when people are separated on two different banks. what do you think? is it possible to achieve? and you know, the water stone sharpens, so i figuratively, of course, say, well , this water is symbolic, which is from the kakhovka reservoir. now she has gone to the dnieper and further to the black sea. she united even more and uh. here is our task with you to break through. here is the wall that the technological process, and the wall of intoxicating people. strictly speaking, e introduction to ignorance the wall is the lack of information, that is, it is one-sided information, only one information goes. it is beneficial for them to make people ignorant, they are knowledgeable people. he just doesn't

know. what should he do? here we are now doing with you, just here, the work that breaks through this wall of ignorance. and this is the feeling of togetherness. it is more and more manifested because it flooded a part of the e right bank, kherson flooded my hometown. my house is in the water, too, which i built and in general there i am actually a civil engineer, but i rebuilt all this part is flooded. well, well, it is precisely this situation that now speaks to mutual support, because they so want to help their own brethren, so we don’t want to help from this side two coasts. these are two banks of the same river, these are not two shores of different oceans there, the atlantic and the pacific, and that's it. here begins the part that

i have already said, which will soon turn this force in the other direction, and both nikolaev and odessa and izmail and ochakov are those, in fact talking about cities of russian glory glory of russian arms that remind us of what we actually say when we do a fair deed. here, well, that's how it works. you see, a very attractive land. with the cogs of the black sea, which no one speaks, you even see, they do not argue that this is novorossia. they are waging a war of conquest by our people.

enough help russia is a very strong country economically all the time. moreover , the matter is developing even faster here, you know what the matter is in the fact that it is with this action. as a matter of fact, the nazi insides were exposed. those who gave the order for the final destruction of the kakhovka dam. the fact is that they have been destroying it for the past six months. they were constantly bombarded with rockets. uh, special precision. one that is subject to destruction. well, there are easier ones.