oh, i see faces that there are more of them, therefore , we will assume that everything has been completed, and next year. what a task i have already said, so i overturned that the optimist has become more, because the pessimist have left yes, and now , probably, it is worth going around the issue of issuing a passport sheet, there and so on to improve work, but, because there are not enough chips for passports . uh, keep that in mind, it's not about chip chip we have, uh, a lot of electronics, uh, our people. maybe that can be dismantled here uh, so uh, then uh, china for the pessimist to return, this is cool, actually. uh, apparently, the ministry of finance will be on purpose. yes? no, no, no, it's really different, because we agreed that we will control. eh, i have a question. do you have a mechanism? how

to control? eh? e the return of the pessimist, or is it on our word or somehow survived, you feel we will understand there will be many who return. well, you won't leave, i know, but your whales. first the topic of boiling, really wonderful. it seems to me that it is right to sum up the results once a year, and last year the main task for me was to save trust in the financial system, so that people are not afraid of inflation, so that they can rely on the resource of the financial system, and, well, indeed, trust has been preserved. on the whole , it is well preserved, and the main thing for the financial system is trust, and i would take this boiling with me further, as they say, maybe a clarification. today we

talked a little about the capital market, which we are underestimated. here is an increase in confidence in the capital market as a source of long-term investment. thanks a lot. well, the maximum began to finish you. yes, we are just here was a little similar, but at the same time different versions with shades. what worries about the hall. yes, outside the hall, what is happening with us in without a population is happening with us, as it were, but from the point of view of the population of the country. uh, now, if the departed are the newcomers, they are actually actively returning now. our banking statistics show that almost half of the people who left in the fall have already returned to the country, in fact. well, apparently, anton gremevich. he has some kind of incentives that he gives out, uh, at the entrance and takes when you leave, it's important. uh, broad optimism, in principle the population. yes, if you look at sociology, then we have the level

of the index of social optimism, which is considered in the cloud, is at a record long-term maximum. it is important that this trend does not turn back and continue in a positive trend, then you can have one clarifying question for you and if someone wants to react with the few seconds that we have left, i would devote it to this issue. you know, i'm telling you that i really like to delve into old papers. here looked at the president's address to the federal assembly 13 years 10 years ago. yes, of course, we are experiencing the consequences of the global crisis. it must be bluntly said that the main reasons for the slowdown are not external, but internal in nature in 3 years in the sixteenth year, the message to the federal assembly, i repeat, the main reason for the slowdown in the economy. at the same time , the president talks about what measures are being taken against our country. i just

won’t repeat it, but i repeat, the main reason for the slowdown in the economy lies before all in our internal problems. we have just talked about how the external crisis will affect us. we talked about how the sanctions will affect, we talked about everything. but this is the message of the president. this assignment to all of us to all of us and the darkness sits in the hall. let's go sitting outside gold about talking, i'm just wondering, we believe that this order of the president has been fulfilled or he has simply been removed from control over irrelevant reality. everything in this life always depends only on us, how we are here, people in the hall, and especially and most important people outside the hall will work to implement their plans, moving forward depends on how we will live. and yet , these are the internal reasons that the president spoke about, which are the cause of problems

in our economy. over these 10 years, we have corrected or at least approached their solution, or , strictly speaking, they are still the same, because you all said today. thank you. we really need to finish. it seems to me that we got a very interesting, very interesting, and most importantly, very frank. i think the conversation is very rarely do we get to see. here is the constellation. and once again i say, not because i want to say something nice. this is a constellation of outstanding specialists. who shared their thoughts candidly on those, i think everyone saw the sharp without any smoothness of the questions that were asked here, so the first one. where i would like to start is to thank them all for this art.

the second last thing is to thank our moderator. the main thing is not to interrupt the moderator. here is the main thanks to the operator, and you do not interrupt him in the last seconds. that's it, they took the fashion to interrupt the operator for him. maybe everyone that's a nightmare democratically see what you 're up to. they write really terrible things here. they can write to me whatever they want. in this hall , i am leading the next panel. here, you leave, i 'll stay here. and so, uh, so, and now i would like to actually follow the advice of maxim stanislavovich our hall, which endured us , thank even more those who watched us thank even more those who endure everything that we we do naturally so that they live better. to say a huge thank you to all of you for

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domestic production reliability in every moment of movement. of our economy well, it was discussed, in general, probably everyone, as usual, said something of his own yes, and meant more than what he said and what

happened today. this is another episode of our big discussion. there are triangles in this quadrangle. well, in general, anyway, it's monetary credit policy. this is budgetary policy. and this is, well, let's say, structural policy. economic growth, financial economic power of the country. today we got together and discussed, in general, yes, and as a rule, we are discussing several points. and probably, by and large, there are two such trajectories. yes, the first trajectory is , after all, the monetary policy of the population, i mean, and the sum of fiscal policy and monetary credit policies, the purpose of which is to have money in the economy yes, so that this is monetary oxygen, as it were, yes, the economy has plenty and the second question. after all , this is the very structure of the economy and the readiness of people. to test the readiness of businesses to invest, the availability of the necessary tools, and so on, so that , well, conditionally, this aggregate demand, which is created from the outside, is there in

the monetary policy budget, and so on. yes, it has transformed into economic growth into new jobs, new supply, and so on. further. so there goes this, in general , a complex dialogue, which means, what is the essence of this dialogue in that, too, yes? what is the difficulty, then, well, it’s clear, on the one hand, there is a budget and obviously in the current situation, and the demand for budgetary resources is much higher. and what, let's say, is the resource that is. yes, moreover, our budget is based on the fulfillment of social obligations, plus there are additional needs related to a special military operation. and, of course, there are needs for financing structural transformation economy, including from the budget. yes, because, well, in itself, as it were, the economy is structural shifts in development, there is high-tech microelectronics, and aircraft structures, and so on, and it will not pass by itself. yes, that is, support is required. that is why the question is what is the budget deficit , should it be at all, in the opinion of the understandable ministry

of finance it would be better if everything was balanced in the current situation, which means that the budget deficit is the question of how it will be in the long term? well, and, accordingly, it is superimposed or, rather, a, but reflects it's all monetary credit policy, because if there is a large budget deficit then in order to curb inflation you need to raise rates by reducing overall credit, only the economy. so, well, we are already like the ministry of economy. yes, we are certainly interested. well, let's put it this way so that the totality is a really neutral policy, in other words, so that there is not excessive rigidity, because often, but especially earlier there, and the central banks sometimes look at budgets, they say the budget is deficient, so we we focus on your deficit, we will raise the rate more, just in case, in order to squeeze inflation into the budget, then the money is not spent , not everyone enters the economy , and so on. money is not enough demand, and this is lost growth. yes, that is

, lost incomes of people and so on, so we are conducting this dialogue with colleagues in order to really understand the nuances with the numbers. what is real inflation, in what its reasons, and how does money reach the economy? how is lending going? in which sectors is lending? is it a consumer mortgage? or is it really a long-term business investment? yes, that's why this is such a complicated dialogue. today we saw just here is his reflection. yes , because from our point of view, from the point of view of the economy and the ministry of economy. still , it is largely the merit of the fact that the willow looks and now we are going through the situation much better. this is also because this is monetary oxygen in the economy, this is one part of the question. yes, and we are interested in the fact that, well, such a balanced policy will continue and will continue to continue, so that oxygen will continue to flow. yes, that's our second argument is that the economy adequately responds to this demand in other words. we are increasing investment, increasing production

, including imports. imports are also part of the supply, and we are not building a closed economy. yes, that means we have an open economy. she will be open. we also talked about this, there will be exports and there will be imports, and very it is important that it be a balance, because we do not need to have a lot of exports and no imports, because the question arises. where is this money going? that is, it is either the top capital from the country. either we still need to import goods, and services. yes , so that, well, in general, there will be no people. some people are afraid that we will fence ourselves in. you know, sort of, yes, this year we have gone through quite a lot of forks this year. and so it went. you know, they didn’t just read the papers there, as if it were written somewhere in the books, but we really weighed and answered current calls there will be no closure , but the state line. yes, it means there will be budgetary stability, there will be makar economic stability, and really , everything is exactly mmm. well, it wasn't even discussed. yes , it is understandable that we will fulfill in terms of our obligations there and so on. here we will protect all investments, not only residents, but also non-residents.

yes, here are all these moments, we found answers to all of them, and this is the basis, including this structural transformation, which we also discussed extensively and from which, ultimately, depends on the growth of supply in the economy. yes, that is, the production of goods services. that's why there was such a dialogue around this. in general, a rather interesting, uh, dialogue is, of course, excellent, and forums are created for exchanging opinions, and not for signing some kind of final document or plans and following it, it is clear that there are other structures for this other coordination structures management, of course, but nonetheless. uh, nevertheless, there is now criticism from your opponents of the government, who believe that that the case is not enough for economic growth. and that the current growth is unstable, and rather fast in time. it will stop. well, you know, i'm like this, i have not heard such sharpened criticism, but of course, we do not believe that we have done everything that can be done or

everything that needs to be done. yes, we continue to constantly refine all tools. here is from literally fresh. this is our joint project with the central bank. uh, a taxonomy of structural transformation projects. we have determined, as a government criterion for these projects, the ministry of economy. together with our agency colleagues. everything was developed and presented, the government approved the central bank, based on this, changed the rules for lending to such projects. yes , it will be more profitable for the bank to lend them less reserves. it will be necessary to create and so on. and due to this, it is precisely the banking system that we expect to support economic growth, and the bank of russia has given an indulgence that can support investments worth 10 trillion rubles. this is a very large investment. we are in turn. now we are discussing the topic, what about these projects in including giving guarantees, but on the part of the state. well, more precisely, from the side of vnesheconombank. yes, so that part of the risks, well , as the state automatically took over, or rather, shared with banks. we won't take all the rice. yes, we will take part

of the risk, as it were, yes, but in order to also encourage entrepreneurs more, how to invest more loans. we are discussing the topic of investment tax deduction. and here is something that should help the intersectoral transfer of capital so that there business is conditional for each for every 4 rubles. investment yes one ruble. we would have conditionally debited him from the taxes he paid. yes, it means, provided that he finances structural transformations in the same projects there. yes, this is all that is all that we need now, all that exists, and demand. that's why we, of course, are constantly improving. these questions. it is very important to constantly deal with the regulatory environment and the investment climate. here we also do a lot, as it were, yes, and in general we are discussing the topic, like here, what other additional mechanisms to make? that is, the government stands in place. we are definitely constantly. we work and hear the wishes of business, we hear criticism of business somewhere; we work with regions, because they are at the front. we work with our partners in foreign economic

activity. we see there a request for reorientation of flows. and what else needs to be done? so, in general, no, this is a constant work, so we are, we are here, uh, well, not to say that at the beginning of the path, but that means, but we definitely do not have some kind of complacency. and that the pace will be higher, they will be higher, of course, ours is it clear now? here, but it's true. as far as you are now, well, i always want to say no more. uh, it means numbers, but it will be so in the form, apparently, higher, as it were, yes, it means more northern bank said. uh, well, the world bank. he recognizes the already super obvious, as it were, yes, it means that to discuss the forecasts of the world bank of moscow is certainly an international organization. still, we believe we are not biased, no matter how, they do not fully understand the stability of our economy and the reasons for the stability of this economy after all. rented a real market diversified economy and it became clear. maybe we always looked there, there, the nineteenth year, the twentieth year, it seemed to us that, yes, much has not been done. we need to move

forward and so on, but both covid and the current situation seemed to be, well, really. there are our entrepreneurial collectives and management teams. well, big fellows and can work in the most in the most difficult conditions. maxim ivanovich, you mean, this is last spring and summer, and we constantly return to this, because it really was a very difficult situation and, on the other hand, there are echoes, it’s not a simple situation, but now, but how much do you assess this stability now in the sense that, you said, yes, market economies, but, uh, i think there is, uh, such an opinion that in our country, it is still quite strongly controlled by the state. and now we are talking about choosing this economic model that would give a sustainable lesson, not one or two percent. five seven and more, and theoretically, here is the current economy, maybe to give such growth, you know, it seems to me that we somewhat artificially oppose private business and the role of the state. yes, it means

uh, the state should play a role, including in structural changes in microelectronics. the state will not arise on its own; it must either guarantee demand in the domestic market through government orders or through something else, right? either or well enter what is called in capital to guarantee some part of entrepreneurial risks, and perhaps both, you understand, but this whole construction implies that there is a private investor who will agree to these conditions , invest, then risk their capital. we are not talking about the fact that we, as a state, will take all the risks now, here you are there, here is the money for you, as anton brought you there today, approximately, here is the money for you on the machine. here's your guarantee. just e you just do it no, everyone comes and risks something, of course, here we are everything was transparent yes, so that there is competition and so on. so it seems to me, here it is to say that we have found the optimal model. no, we are not free the question of privatization is raised all the time about the presence of large state-owned companies,

by the way, not all of them are in the privatization program. i, uh, think that the state is really big, and the volume of the visible volume of assets that are inefficiently managed. we see this, even elementary by the presence of real estate objects , business comes to us and they say, listen, sanatoriums here are falling apart. why are you keeping them? you will never invest money there, because you need to invest in hospitals in microelectronics somewhere else. yes but put it up for auction on a transparent one, we don’t ask there to give us some kind of under the table and so on, yes, well, just put up and there are a lot of such objects and we need to go into this , you understand and see how other objects that are not really critically important there for some moments. moreover, it seems to me, now we are in a different situation our business is now. that's for sure. our business is those who work in the country - these are people who believe in the country, who will continue to invest in the country from this point of view. well, they they have already passed the test for this one for

national interests. yes, and you can and should trust, and maybe what we used to think, god forbid, give it to someone. there, it means that they will take it away, ruin it, and so on, but not ruin it. they are already here, that's all, all who are all who are working now. and this is the majority. yes , that's all, uh, everyone will invest and develop. and this is without rose-colored glasses. this does not mean that all is well and business. there wow and so on. there are a lot of problems mood mood is different, yes, but this one here is the adaptation process. yes, he passed people people made a choice people are ready to work people will fight for their enterprises for their teams. in general, and in general, people believe us that on this optimistic chickpea we will end our conversation, thank you very much. i think that indeed we will do a lot in our big tasks, but in our economy. ke our people and there will be a new economy. it's already under construction. yes, thank you very much. let me remind you that we talked with maxim reshetnikov, the minister of economic

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well, we continue to work at the 26th st. petersburg international economic forum and now the guest of our studio is the minister of labor and social protection anton kosyakov anton olegovich hello, we have historical lows. now the unemployment figures. first it was 3.5% then 3.3. how long do you predict this decline will continue. yes really. today we have an unemployment rate of 3-3%, that's 2.5 million citizens who now have jobs. well, it must be said that we have been observing since the beginning of the end of 22 years. steady downward trend in unemployment. suffice

it to recall the forecasts of skeptics and various foreign analysts, which at the beginning of the twenty-second year, during the period when sanctions began , were predicted, given the large-scale exit of a western company from the russian market. significant rise in unemployment. these were forecasts and 5-10 million people today. in a radically opposite way, we have minimum unemployment values, we have a job seeker's labor market, we already have a company's struggle for a qualified worker and we clearly understand that, taking into account the pace of economic development that will be formed in our country, we will continue to have a demand for skilled labor, therefore unemployment forecasts. we definitely don't. we even believe that unemployment will gradually be on these subjects. even slightly with a slight decrease you said. that by 2030 the russian economy will need another two and a half million workers. where did this need come from? and where do we get these jobs, firstly, we still have morning reserves, and those unemployed people i'm talking about. at

today's employment centers, there are 520,520,000 people registered who need help in finding a job, and plus everything we work together with our industry colleagues with the ministry of education the ministry of education to maximize the maximum involvement of senior students courses in the labor market. we see that there is a clear correlation between the practical experience of the guys who study with their e, wage growth after training. that is, if a young person comes to find a job and he already has practical experience behind him, either these are internship practices, or this is just a part-time job. during the study period. this immediately generates a wage bar for him higher by 10-12%. accordingly , you clearly understand that there is a mutual interest of the state. yes and today's students practical skills experience we, for our part, form a whole list of programs to involve students in work activities already in senior years. well, in fact, not the low

historical low unemployment rate correlates with the data announced earlier by the government that the unemployment rate increased in 17 regions at the beginning of this year and is really growing now. and if we are talking about countries, show or three percent, but you need to look at the morning, which is in the context of the constituent entities of the russian federation, the situation is enough there are regions where unemployment is high, unemployment in the dynamics of several periods in recent periods has been growing in these regions, and this is just one of the elements, let’s say, of the elements of the state policy of state work, which we have to build now, there are works. there are surplus works, scarce regions precisely with this in mind. uh, let's put it this way, here are the proportions for the distribution of human resources, taking into account the needs of the economy. we will now form the proper comments. this year. we launched the mobility 2.0 program within the framework of this program, work has the opportunity to transfer an employee in a kindly employment center from another subject or from a remote municipal area and receive

compensation from the federal budget up to 260,000 rubles. for each employee. this is just one of the examples of how the state comes to the aid of entrepreneurs who need highly qualified personnel, who need requests for a one-time increase in the staffing level of their enterprises to fulfill certain tasks that they face, and i believe that this is precisely the uneven level of unemployment. uh, the presence of unemployed. uh, citizens in separate entities, this uh, one of these uh, let's say this is a task that needs to be solved for the state, including with the tool that i spoke about mobile e, another topic that is being discussed, including within the forum of social well-being. what measures does the ministry of labor propose to help the needy? here were the data previously announced by the department, what last year, on e, the incomes of the most needy families increased by 40%, but we still have a lot of families whose income is below the subsistence level, what

needs to be done here and what does the department suggest if we are talking about the level of poverty in general , then by the end of 2022, poverty in our country is at around 9.8%. ah, again, for the last 3 years. we see the dynamics of a decrease of 9.80% - this is, in principle, a very good indicator in terms of its correlation with previous periods. but it doesn't stop there, the targets for us by the end of the thirtieth year. this is the achievement of the mark of 6.5%, and you just focused on the targeted policies that are pursued by state policies, which the state has the right to support, semey today, within the framework of e-benefits, a single allowance, which is being introduced as one of the tools. and just targeted support for families in need of families with children. we see that the comprehensive means test, which was introduced in 2020, the second year, allowed lanskaya to concentrate financial resources.