in these minutes , the third day of the international economic forum starts in st. petersburg. it will be very eventful. the plenary session will be attended by vladimir putin. the head of state, by tradition, will deliver a voluminous keynote speech. also during the day , sessions of the brix npp will be held, a round table of russia iran will be presented with the national rating of the invest climate in the regions, the forum participants will discuss topics of social partnership for the development of the automotive industry in the arctic. export potential of our

high technologies and many other questions. well opens the third day of the forum business breakfast. sberbank will start. he's here any minute now . our channel shows it live. the broadcast will be back. in the meantime , dozens of meetings, the first major agreements - billion-dollar contracts. alena logvinova will remind you what yesterday's day of the international economic forum in st . thursday as part of the business program. the main theme this year. he is the sovereign development of the foundations of a just world, uniting efforts in the name of future generations , as first deputy prime minister andrey belousov said at the opening ceremony, russia should work on strengthening its own sovereignty against the backdrop of a global crisis of confidence, the most painful blow

that sanctions inflicted on all countries, without exception, showed that no rules exist in these conditions. responsible politicians must make new rules interaction in order for sovereignty to be able to the ussr, an alternative infrastructure should be created, we are talking about financial infrastructure, and transport, and energy infrastructure and information infrastructure. this is certainly a key factor a in order for the countries to, uh, feel themselves have access to development resources, now the country has a good economic situation with low unemployment and low inflation , said maxim oreshkin, assistant to the president of russia, but there are inflationary risks ahead, and therefore, macroeconomic policy must be built carefully so that next year there will be a live broadcast of st. petersburg, where the business breakfast of sberbank begins. uh,

colleagues request to all quick response, raise your hands. e. the most important thing is speed. especially in the morning, e should not get carried away with long speeches. and here's a short reaction for everyone, and then we'll try to give the floor to, uh, all the participants and, uh, all the speakers as much as possible. as you can see, almost all of our speakers are without ties. uh, this is new for our breakfast audience, so feel calm, relaxed not a single person, not yet planted, despite all efforts. uh, andrey mikhailovich makarov, and they didn’t even fire him after breakfast. so i wish everyone bon appetit and

colleagues, let's start everything then. good morning, dear guests, participants of our traditional breakfast at the st. petersburg economic forum, and this year we have decided. keep up with our traditions and conduct a business survey to find out what the business considers to be the most important task for itself. for the coming year and what are the key challenges business sees today? all problems, of course, are very clearly divided into two large components. the first is the global context. what will happen in geopolitics? how the world economy will develop , how high is the probability of a global financial

and economic crisis, but we decided to leave this part of the questions outside our discussion today due to the fact that a number of discussions at the st. petersburg forum were devoted to this topic. and of course, significantly more important is our internal context, what will happen? in our country, and i would like to start our discussion with our traditional video, please put the video on. the situation in the world is changing rapidly, the confrontation of the largest economies is growing, the global trade institutions are collapsing, the un wto imf globalization is being replaced by politicization, trade technological financial ties are being broken at the same time technological progress is accelerating. not everyone has time to adapt to change

growing social tensions. the pandemic has largely betrayed the momentum of these trends in 2022. more than 1,200 companies with foreign capital have imposed the largest number of sanctions on russia in the world. they left russia or reduced their presence in the market in violation of all basic values ​​and economic freedoms. unfriendly countries. they did something unprecedented. actions to freeze the assets of russian individuals and legal entities, as well as russia's gold and foreign exchange reserves but the russian economy has shown amazing flexibility and viability. the main direction of the blow was directed against the financial industry, but thanks to the professional actions of the central bank and the government, the financial sector

demonstrated reliability in a short time , russian businesses found alternative ways to export and import goods , and a settlement infrastructure was built. today, business is waiting for the state to provide a predictable business environment and the tax regime to restart industrial policy. new conditions require answers to new questions. how to redirect trading flows without becoming overly dependent on the new partners, how to balance the development challenge and the needs of the budget russian economy new course priorities and alternatives and today we have e at breakfast.

two deputy prime ministers four deputy heads of the presidential administration eight ministers, 12 deputies five heads of federal departments 25 governors thank you colleague for being with us traditionally and 45 heads of major russian companies i would like to say separately. thanks to all stanislavovich oreshkin, who changed his schedule and today with us and andrei mikhailovich makarov, without whom our breakfast is not like that. if i may, i would like to show a few slides to start our discussion. in many ways, this is the result of the question that we had on the eve

of the st. petersburg economic forum. and what about the business? what is here uh the hardest unprecedented, probably a difficult period, which, if possible, if possible, put the first slide. this period of the russian economy was much better than all expectations. we have shown here the consensus projections for early 22 years. then, uh, the may 22 scenario, and how the forecast actually turned out, in general, uh, probably not a single e forecaster got to the point at which the fractures that our economy went through and

experienced quite successfully we lost last year. all in all. uh, 2.1% of gdp and such, uh, forecast was not made, probably, even by the most daring analysts. well, business notes that during this period of time the team of the government of the central bank worked absolutely professionally. well and, of course, a business that has shown miracles of ingenuity in solving the logistical problems of reorienting export flows from east to west to east. well, solutions for compensation were found very quickly. uh leaving uh traditional suppliers from the russian market and uh buying outgoing companies uh from the russian market. uh,

the government made a number of important decisions and made them on time, and thanks to this , uh, a number of basic industries. in general, they did not feel very well. uh, such very serious structural changes. well, of course, the main blow. e, it was aimed at the financial sector, and it came from the financial sector and the bank of russia responded in time, uh, with a number of regulatory changes by lowering the currency control mechanisms by raising the rate, and then lowering the rate, uh, again, in the most, probably, correct uh moment and it all led to the creation. here is such a very soft compensatory mechanism within the economy that compensated uh, a very uh, powerful blow that took place today, uh, the obvious

priorities of the government are four obviously what we see in the budget of the current year from most likely we will see a three-year budget, uh for the next 3 years, an increase in spending on national defense and security. and it can be considered that the alternative, uh, there are no special ones here, this is a range. the second position, which is stated by the president and the government, is the reduction of social inequality. this will obviously require an increase in the resource base , primarily the federal budget. well, regional budgets. third. well it is possible to tell too without alternative task. this development of new infrastructure. and the fourth task is also a largely

deterministic situation today - this is import substitution and technological development. there is a serious question. what directions in the development of the economy should the government support the most multiplicative industries that provide the largest tax base and the largest number of jobs and serve as a driver for the development of other industries, for example, tourism are strategic, which need to be developed regardless of the multiplier and others. effects, because these industries are absolute priorities. eh, well, the tasks are absolute priorities for the development of our country, the state, as such, and the third group is infrastructure. of course, this is transport. this is a connection. this is energy. well,

the it sector. e, which today, probably, can be the service sector, which can also be attributed to the infrastructure sector. we took two sectors of the automotive industry, and we see here the figures taken from the development strategy of the automotive industry. and this is the industry that everyone understands. we are all either vehicle owners or users. and i guess this is the industry that can give a very serious multiplier effect for , uh, the industrialization of the country as a whole, but also, uh, the development of jobs. e. today, the share of mechanical engineering in the automotive industry is not so large, but there was a time when avtovaz dictated its state, in general, the development of all branches of engineering, and the economy as

a whole. will we be able to return to the positions that, uh, the automotive industry once played, but at a new level, uh, which are at the level, which will cause us to be proud of domestic brands, the second, the second industry that has uh, such obvious development potential and uh, the government has designated it as uh, its, uh, priority. eh, dmitry nikolayevich chernyshenko spoke about this many times, that this is a powerful potential driver. uh, the development of the country's economy is primarily small and medium-sized businesses. what needs to be done in order for us to do this, we see here the figures for the export of capital by us to the outside, and what we need to do in order to to reduce e capital through tourism services and turn them e, added value within our country.

what is holding back development and how does business international settlements respond to it? 12% of businesses have already experienced problems with the purchase of equipment, an increase in the tax burden. well, the logistics. these are the priorities that businesses designate for themselves as key for the coming year. well, the question that we put on the agenda today is how to restart the new industrial policy. and what are our alternatives and priorities, if we are talking with you, we briefly discussed the expenditure base of the budget, it is obvious that it will grow and the only thing, probably, is such a uh. the degree of freedom is volume and direction. uh, budget expenditures to support the economy in many respects, the rest of the expenditures are determined from

which the business concludes that most likely from the new year we will see an increase in the tax burden and how to combine the four priorities of a possible increase in the tax burden and the industrial maneuver that we face. this is probably the main theme we wanted here today to discuss. i would like to start with a question, which business is also the result of the survey. designated almost consensual at confirmation in general, the success of the financial and economic policy everyone answers. what is politics in the field of industrialization, what is the obvious success of the policy in the field of agricultural development service sectors, but industrial policy is something that, probably, a fully

successful business cannot name anyway, and i would like to ask the first question . what and why we failed in part stimulating industrialization? i would like to address this question first of all to our industrial colleagues and here are two representatives of our automotive industry. e to the head of avtovaz maxim sokolov and sergey kogogin. uh, the head of kamaz, if possible. here is your view briefly about what failed and why failed? morning colleagues germanovich, well, the question, of course, is global, but in general, the answer to it, uh, was given last year and the current state of our industry, including the automotive industry, which we represent together with sergey anatolyevich and kamaz, this answer is that we have survived and we are developing and

the situation at our enterprises is stable, but nevertheless it is avtovaz and kamaz, each in their sector of the car and truck building, that are the flagships and litmus test papers of the domestic industry. well. still, of course, uh, if we talk about the past that failed, uh, no one expected the shock. uh will be so deep and large-scale, and uh, we were not ready for such, let's say, the degree of depth of technological sovereignty that we requires today's life, but today we are well aware that this is our protection. this is our reality, and if we do not ensure, well, the total localization of import substitution , the achievement of an appropriate level of technological sovereignty, then further

development. e our enterprises of our product line will be impossible. and so now we are doing everything possible to achieve these goals, we are moving progressively for 1 year or even two or three years , but the necessary bookmarks have been made. why didn't it work? a well, it is obvious that the vector of state policy was not aimed at, uh, achieving these objectives of previous years. now the situation has changed well. thank you very much sergey anatolyevich it is difficult to say that my opinion is always the same, that is, if the enterprise is properly managed, then everything works out. here the first person of management should be able to see what will be on the horizon. that is, if you build the right

strategy for the behavior of enterprise management, then, as a rule, an uzbek with you weigh the balance of pros and cons there, is there to take our company, it was clear that the size of the company, the size of the russian market does not allow it to develop. we then decided to share the investment costs with partners of the leading partners of our workshop. here are the world. they got competencies, they got money. well, that is, if it’s rude, then they simply competently sold the russian market, but they always put the head of the corner. the ability to independently conduct business and when the critical moment came, that is, everything happened seamlessly and there were no problems. now, too, is the period when we must see. and what will happen next? thanks a lot. uh, very bright there were

two responses. these are the micro level lack of focus at the corporate level on the development of their own industrial base of suppliers and the second lack of focus at the macro level for one reason or another, uh the policy was not focused enough. i would like to ask andrei mikhailovich makarov a question. you how do you see? here between these two positions, is there a contradiction or approach have the right to life? can you afford to discuss any topic for me before this breakfast? nothing, not being afraid, but on

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banks not vydernulovskaya. note. this is the first time i am not referring to you, he says it is necessary to launch privatization. well, right there, by the way, he says in order to solve the main problem - the problem of economic development, but then the head of the investigative committee, says, no need for nationalization. now, if it were horse racing, who would you bet on? i would bet on the head of the investigative committee, because if you do not agree to nationalization, he can apply confiscation, but if we follow our habit, when we cross everything with each other, i would go around at once in two ways. i suggest that businesses first carry out privatization, so they should be nationalized immediately. believe me, this is interesting and perspective, and finally. i would like to pay attention. i can say that business is interested in the question, for example, but we will not raise taxes. that's where

someone screams no, and you know, and now on actually quoting the president. i won't jump up a bit when i said that i would lose the president. this is where no one really beats it. so the sixteenth year. the president talks about the significance of sanctions for the sixteenth year, mind you, and then he says one thing, how the main reason for the slowdown in the economy lies , first of all, in our internal problems and says one of these problems is the flaws in the business climate. by the way, he said the same thing 3 years before in the thirteenth year, but we still report plans for the future, and not by what we have done in these 10 years, what we have done in 10 years to change the business climate in the country, and this is where i would like to draw your attention. we are almost done with just one circumstance. we have learned brilliantly. most importantly, we have learned to depict activity. it is very important. just

remember, right there we have people with the syndrome being poisoned. why because, when you were still starting, remember when the business came to you and said we were tortured with checks, they come pulling with ba. and our business stops. we thought for a long time, how to make sure that the inspector does not pull, the money didn’t work, but we don’t know how to get rid of it. and we agreed that we will actually close the checks, this is when someone has a temperature and does not like it, we take the temperature of a thermometer against the wall and the temperature. naturally disappears. well, and finally, you understand the last thing again, the whole thing is you are the goal, here is the goal, when we talk about state administration, we all time under state law. for example, i don't see grigorenko. by the way, probably, the bear will also have to say that he said the ingenious control system, well , the control system is not a system of government, if the system