absolutely true, but we understand that in the coming years, if we want to increase the efficiency of public administration through digitalization, digitalization will still require investment. i'm not sure if we need to invest more in the market. still , it would be a shame if you also, uh, offered money to the financial sector for a solution. in my opinion. we must offer you and the entire market. uh, our advanced solutions and it's a shame to take money for this from the budget. but uh, nevertheless, the digitalization of public administration will require additional expenses. it is obviously without money. this is impossible. if i may. i would like to ask a question, uh, the second topic, which dmitry nikolaevich outlined. uh, tourism, we have two largest operators in the country, one, unfortunately, today is under the threat of nationalization. here, and the largest to date - this is a holding owned by

the fc system. and i would like to ask uh tagiruse to uh answer the question. you are waiting for additional injections from the government , you need them in order to improve the development of a fast, there, e tourist colleague's infrastructure, firstly, i would like to say a few words about the question, how it was formulated when we were asked to prepare. this uh, in fact, means a shortage, but of a fund or a number of rooms, especially in the five star category. ah, when i read it, i was surprised, because the question applies to us, well, to a large extent, but out of 35 hotels we only have two hotels in the five star category, so uh, commenting probably should be those who have more of these hotels but i can say that it's true

there is a shortage, but there is a shortage, but in resort locations, and in the category of five stars, if you look at moscow st . be starting to grow held forms. moreover, this is due to the fact that e, and we analyze it, so to speak. e based on these data, which are also available in mts-travel. this is due to the fact that business activity has fallen slightly. uh, and uh, solvency. the demand of the population is also fell. naturally, when people go to resorts to relax there, so to speak, they want to pamper themselves and try to live there in the conditions that they would dream of, therefore, in resorts, and this, well, there is a certain shortage of occupancy. at the same time, well, it is obvious that, of course, the resorts we have there are greatly underestimated. it's true. there are such points, there are the black sea coasts. ah, the krasnodar

territory, but there are such distant locations that are becoming more and more popular there, like kamchatka baikal, well, not much dorazhit, that is, severely underdeveloped , probably not because there are no structural financing mechanisms. they are the state. there adopted laws there. uh, including debt financing instruments. at very reasonable rates, infrastructure is severely lacking. look what's going on in kamchatka. i don't know. kamcha leaves for 50 km. moving along the kamchatka road, helicopters are a very expensive undertaking, that is, we would expect support. in order not to waste time , you support two things. the first one is infrastructure, the second is personnel. these businesses were generally on sidings. and so to speak, they are starting to develop strongly only now, personnel trained quite a bit, there will be huge competition in this salary. and, well, the personnel from this

segment is significantly lower than the market ones. this is something you should probably think about. uh, the question is rather, well, systemic, especially with regard to personnel, so, well, not to take up time. this is how i will designate these two areas of training. thanks a lot. eh, i would say that today for tourism often infrastructure is a prohibitive factor. this applies to the black sea coast. unfortunately, if we are talking about railways, because there is no air communication and a number of amazing regions of our country that are closed to mass tourism due to underdeveloped infrastructure. this again we rest against the fact that all the same. well, you need to invest more, and therefore, to the question of anton yuryevich will there be more expenses, it is obvious that these expenses will be required? i would like to ask maybe one more question. uh uh, another one question answer by hand for our tax office. e, daniel egorova e. well, we know

that in previous years, the budget has lived largely due to your efficient work. you have managed to increase the efficiency of the tax service, which led to a disproportionate increase in tax revenues. literally, probably, er, after the fourteenth year. uh, we saved with the fact that the tax office worked perfectly and we didn’t feel such a budget shock, if further opportunities for improving administration due to this are not proportional. filling the budget oh yes, and a thermos, in short, actually. yes, there is a question of what we mean by the improvement of administration, because this issue lies in our classical perception of tax administration. in terms of

increased control. ah, and squeezing out additional income, either by expanding the base of those who pay, or by strengthening control measures. and right here. i think that the question of the price of these incomes that we can receive is very important. e by improving administration, how would we it was not understood, in my view, where we have the opportunity, this is an improvement in administration, which gives people certainty so that they can invest, we are talking about budget spending here. at the same time, we understand, we see on the one hand that we see this, even in the work of control of cash registers. our demand is growing. our consumption is growing. uh, and on the other hand, the next step after the growth in demand is investing. and here, as if we have a question, that is, when people will start believe in what we offer, and to invest research further.

we will see exactly the very revenues that we need. and now, from the point of view of certainty , in terms of transparency, the honesty of our actions, when we make a decision we will not take there about raising taxes or about how we will administer. this certainty will allow us in this way, perceiving improved administration and increase our income. thanks a lot i think. why credit savings cards are the most profitable in the country every month starts new interest free period 120 days make purchases so again and again a free forever super rate of nine eight percent. order online or dispense and benefit every day with just one capsule per day to protect your joints and spine. the formula

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you money from the service and the guaranteed rate on time, and the bank 4% per annum and will return the difference. come for money post office bank. i infrastructure is still a hot topic vitalyevich thank you very much for your optimism. and if it’s possible, i’ll also address the question of what , today, the railway has probably become the most demanded product not only among businesses, but also among citizens. uh, in particular a ticket to it was possible to buy a plane to st. petersburg on the forum. here it was impossible to get a train ticket and say through which e and not through what kind of pull, so please tell me, you see an alternative for development. er

rail er rail links in the country, well, not radically, without increasing investment from the budget. thank you very much. uh, one more time. good morning. uh, all uh, dear colleagues, i want to apologize. eh, i really would really like to translate all of them comfortably with peregrine falcons, but uh, for now, uh, well, due to various circumstances. uh, we don't so developed. as we would like and in relation to this. uh, herman the road moscow-st. petersburg in the ussr we talk for a long time, we harness it, until we go. here. uh, although it seems to me, that's in relation to this event. eh, i'll tell you. e. what questions. we could decide to build uh vsm, and the investment is over a trillion, but uh, here we

were discussing discussing the models are extremely interesting , everyone is interested in what is now. well, firstly, 2 hours and 30 minutes from moscow to st. petersburg is a completely different level. we are ready to build our own rolling stock. this is me i am telling you absolutely clearly now that my colleagues and i are ready to do this. whoever wins will win all territories moreover, despite the fact that uh at the moment. uh, there's a huge problem with, uh, currency transfer with a lot of restrictions, but we can't get to the baltic ports and the northwest. well, we can't and we need to build a railroad for today's choice. are we going to build we're going to build that railroad that we should have been building historical rome we'll build a new one let's take a step forward in order to to introduce here i can see it in my eyes, colleagues understand what i'm talking about, e fertilizers

are metals. here, uh, i think that the time has come and now the time is like that. it is to implement that they fit well into the financial model now. and it seems to me that there are exactly such models along the corridors. e, too, would be ready if there was more time to tell, but now it’s extremely timely, it will really move our country to a new level and make it possible to both invest and return more money, including taxes. thank you very much in general. uh, very interesting approach to colleagues. this is either built in cm. by advancing our country to a new level of technological development , remove passenger traffic from freight trains and reduce potential costs in creating an alternative freight service. i have a question for alexei bardashov. we know

you live here in the northwest. you would be ready, as the rulers will load, who will take out all their cargo to invest in everything in order to receive it in a short time. here is such an effect. do you know the answer to my questions. i think the answer to my question. you know without my answer. i'm an investor. it all depends on the conditions, that is, a potential answer to your question. yes, that is, we are ready to invest in the ussr under conditions. i think that such a reaction will be of anyone there in the hall. that's why yes, i have to say only orthodoxy or something else the right place. yes, so here's an interesting conversation. some very optimistic today. stichny eh, it seems to me that everyone understands everything. everyone knows everything, that 's what sounded today seemed to me very what was said by dmitry nikolaevich , anton gennadievich anton gennych is reasonable. vasilyevich

means, uh, maxim stanislavovich, everything is very reasonable, that is, apparently, we just need to take it and do it. here are the answers to the questions that are standing today. they seem to be clear to everyone, firstly, we need the rules of the game. here vyacheslavovich incorrectly said that the prospects for an increase in tax collection are not to tighten the screws, but to increase the tax rate due to economic growth. this requires clear , predictable rules of the game. i liked that anton georgievich said that the increase in taxes and the maximum tax stanislavovich has a huge downside is very good. what do you understand then. well , probably we all need to agree that it will not happen. the low level of taxes in our country has always been a very powerful stimulus for economic growth. let's keep this stimulus, if before that we need to do it very well. i think it sounded. today about the high risks of growth in budget borrowing. indeed, this will raise the stakes, especially on the condition of limited access to the market of loans, including foreign ones.

yes, we all understand why, then the state will be a powerful player in the borrowing market. three countries will raise the stakes for us there, so talk about everything will become more illusory. yes okay let's not do that. so you sat down. in general, i see. it was really cool to listen to. let 's take and do what everyone understands so well, while i repeat, what do we need to do? this is also understandable. we need the first rules of the game. we need a market economy. despite the fact that everyone is at breakfasts like today, it turns out to be the most ardent commitment to this principle in life, we know that it happens in different ways. let's not do things differently. let 's just do what we think is right, that means further. here the jurisprudence of infrastructure sounded very good. so it looks like exactly the right investment to develop is not what seems obvious, so i would like to say two things the first one means. this would be very wanted to avoid unnecessary investment here. it seems to me that two, perhaps, recipes can help us. first. we will definitely need to invest in what we have lost due to

today's crisis. dmitry nikolayevich is doing a lot in the field of digitalization development. this seems to be the direction. not, apparently, 100% exactly where we need to work actively for everyone, both business and the state, and here is the government's initiative, including going very far. it seems to me that these industrial centers of competence are correct. she just we need to replace in the next two or three years the software that we have access to, to which we have lost. and thanks to the names of the figures, this is very, very correct. simply, otherwise, we will stop to hell, so to speak, in three years, according to our estimates, in three years, so we are actively investing in this, uh, the states do not give. that is, it must be done, that is, analyzed. this is where we need risks in our critical infrastructure elements. it seems to me a person of public private partnership. first of all, e compensate, second e, developed infrastructure. let's stick with these principles. public private partnership economic feasibility first of all take into account. here's an example that comes to mind. uh, i don’t know if it’s true, i read that kurchatov

built the institute when. he e forbade asphalting the paths in the park until people trampled them, and when they were trampled, and then he paved them. that is, he didn’t do what people needed, and he didn’t do it the way he did in other yes soviet parks there. eh, it's been done. let's at the expense public private partnership understand. where is the business. here it is necessary, what kind of tracks are there, and then add the state. well, at the expense of incentives added. yes, it means, that is, everyone understands everything. he so let's do and the last very briefly. so, here, uh, i was asked a question in preparation for today's breakfast. this is how i understand this question. well, hit in the air resources are limited. and how are we supposed to do with it? how can we live in these conditions, but we all know that resources on the one hand are always limited, but on the other hand. we know that the state of a strange organization has similar access to resources achieves

completely different results completely different. this means that we have a chance and technology. by the way, what is emerging today is developing, however, changing the face of our world and giving us another chance. if we take advantage of it. i think just let's do it. it's all good, we understand. thank you very much. for your optimism and we are left with the last part of our colleague's discussion. i might ask you to take the initiative us governors, please. well, maybe, let's start with our e wanted to say one of the most potential regions in terms of tourism, but after looking at kaliningrad let's still start with buryatia dear colleagues, and very briefly in one of the first questions that sounded about a correct industrial policy and the answer was inefficient public administration, but the answer must be read with questions the question was.

uh, industrial policy, inefficient public policy. this does not mean clearly. this is wrong public policy. these are not absolutely identical concepts. eh, what, i mean with us. uh, industrialization, uh, operates in an open market. we have an open market and open competition, of course, any large-scale shooting of their products compete with an external manufacturer at a price we do not win. since a small volume of production, any large asset of an enterprise is , first of all, thousands of pickers, if we make a new production of pickers and suppliers simultaneously at the same time. they should be created, because it is unrealistic to create a large enterprise to generate demand for components and then for another five years this demand will be filled with market conditions.

that is, here we need state planning and, uh, state decisions, when both the main enterprise and half-assemblers are created at the same time or recognize that we have an open market. and we in a competitive situation will not be able to cope with the first second. that is, i mean that state planning should be more active and state-planned should be throughout the chain. ah. i don't know how it is necessary to create then a state-owned enterprise, and then to option and sell there to make people's shares conditionally in line, on the contrary. well, maybe the second question is uh, what they said about efficiency just now said that it even jumped out, a clever idea, an effect from the head. no, not about gosproling. okay, about in general, the topic is the level of industrialization. uh, state planning should be more uh, powerfully

present on the market, not a single major project without uh linking the components, but at the same time unrealizable in an open market open market. uh, it solves a different problem, and the satisfaction of demand, that is, when we opened the markets. we have planted our industry on a simple population that we can agree on. and this is another electoral task , she was also, uh, one of you different, so here, uh, state administration. and lord planning needs to be introduced more system. thanks a lot. tell me, please, here we are talking about the fact that we have, uh, public administration, not that very effective, but you also offer it and spread to business. e this most inefficient management to cover some kind of planning and create some kind of chains. this is how effective they are. that's what i wanted to say inefficient does not mean wrong, because you choose from the available options. they do not fully respond

to the request of others. no. i meant this about the fact that it is impossible for avtovaz, and at the same time for avtovaz, to start working on its own, because it has a lot of pickers to wait for avtovaz, creating market demand and during market demand 5 it is impossible to wait years until the picker appears. this means that if we want to create some kind of industrial strait, then in the direction in which we are moving, all components must be created simultaneously, and business will not go at the same time. first, a person or an injection, first there is a demand, then the business makes an assessment of the investment potential. after that, only starts to invest in the creation of ok. thank you very much. if possible, alikhanov's speech please. thank you. yes, good afternoon, colleagues. thank you very much, but really i found more one source. e monetary if we talk about

tourism. you know, uh, thanks to the support of the president, we have had an e-visa mechanism since july 2019, and thanks a lot to the leadership, 54 countries were open for kaliningrad, that is, people answered 19 questions in the questionnaire on the electronic website and received a visa within a day . 100,000 people came to the kaliningrad region in six months without any advertising, and they each spent it. well, for example, 5,000 rubles. yes, that is, we can calculate that if 20%, at least from these expenses, we received a region in as taxes, then i was happy with this extra money, but the world, of course, said that we did not take money to foreign markets for our tourists. they left them in the country. it's great, but time goes by someday these traditional markets. for

our outbound tourism will open, but we now have the opportunity to suddenly cancel. yes, these visas, having made them free of charge. uh, suddenly get a huge number of people who could come and spend money for me for the border region. it would be very interesting. in six months, without any investments , without any complex infrastructure, we received a huge influx of people. well, and accordingly money. i think it should be done already. now it doesn't cost anything. thanks a lot. i think it's, uh, a good idea, actually such an idea. i think you can collect quite a lot. e. andrei mikhailovich had an idea we forgot about the main reserve for replenishing the budget. this is a request from business, because a few days ago andrei renovich. belousov opened. our main secret is the tax on windfall profits were made at the request of the business, so it seems to me that the main reserve is the trust issue. how to return the trust

which was not. let's decide whether we are going back to the future, or we are going back to the future. it seems to me that this is the main reserve of our budget for business requests. and let's applaud, see how business can also be a social responsibility, governor. andrey, lord, please, if you can, first about taxes, the rules of the game and public administration. now there was a question. you will raise will rise, taxes or will not. so far this issue is being discussed. right now, a decision is being made to raise the rate on manufacturers. no, well, of course, the interests of the federal budget, but no one calculated the regional budget. that's exactly what is practically what will be, and in the ndpi the federal budget has been withdrawn to a large

extent. we will have less money left. i 'm not talking about the invest project, which is simply asking eight governors to write. stop, i really hope we stop. this is the right rule of the game and a request when such decisions are made. let's not do this. here's how to do the second point about the source of additional. uh, extra money for large infrastructure projects here. many thanks to the government , the state, and the president for supporting those projects that we have been fighting for for a long time, well , for example, gasification of the murmansk region into the murmansk transport hub. today we are discussing not discussing life safety, we are implementing gigantic projects of the northern sea route , we need money. and right here. uh, you should probably look at other solutions, including those with channel experience. well, let's we will create a shareholder with a vote and participation. and it is absolutely clear that big business, if the state proves that it is like an investment project , the discussion is taking place such that they will invest in this project, and the third point is what andrey

mikhailovich said about criminal liability. and by the way, about industrial policy, a small example of how specialists are now changing parts in imported equipment. we have such scan metal. it means that the sleeve completely repeats, but it does not cost 1,000 rubles. and 100.000 and financiers of large companies, they say, listen, 100,000 used to buy for 1,000. to which those who order say, well, find for a thousand and the head of the company decides to pay , imagine if someone made a decision in the system of a piece of management so that it would be with him, this is probably the answer to the question about what it didn't work out, it didn't work out or not, it turns out in the industrial policy. here. control over the business with very little checks have been reduced. this is very correct. there is one caveat exactly this amount of checks. now

it concerns schools, hospitals, kindergartens and municipal government employees. this is also a very important factor that hinders development. thanks a lot. uh. i think it's an absolutely fair remark, if uh, civil servants officials will be afraid to make decisions, of course. what kind of increase in efficiency can one behave absolutely fairly borisovich if i can say two words. you are in two faces with us and as a defender of business, as a businessman, but i want to say right away that there is no prioritization of the area, winemaking is an award that is not necessary. we we ourselves are developing well here to protect against low-quality goods, which are still on sale, and, if there are no friendly countries to us, from poor-quality goods. which today fills our shelves and is very cheap. well, as an ombudsman. i want to say that a