this is if you are on the other side of this matter , of course, if there is a shortage of labor in certain industries, somewhere there is an excess , somewhere there is a shortage. and we already said this at the beginning. yes, before the performance, there is a bias in the educational, because the current employee. this is a person who studied before, yes, at school, there at the institute, and so on somewhere else. therefore, it turns out that measures will be taken there in order to reorient such processes. they don’t see them in life anymore, when there is a shortage of engineers and so on. people are already thinking. or maybe go to production, and not to lawyers. well, conditionally, i say i don’t have, well , just when there are too many of them, they are needed. no more chats gpt all sorts of artificial intelligences. now they will decide, questions and so on. well, it's a little different. yeah, well. well, sleepy supply-side economics. well, that is, let's say in terms of the president this is a proactive economy. uh, and uh, it's supply-side economics. so i tried to explain on my fingers what it is. well, to make it clear, because, well, the proposal is somehow strange. and what is this all about

talk? well, it's clear what the president was talking about for the entrepreneurs who were sitting there, the official, you know, they step back. you understand what the movie is about, but we are talking for the audience, so that whoever is not connected with its economy, probably, it just doesn’t really know so, uh, it turns out that, well, these are further steps that are aimed at this big part was about infrastructure. this is our first, competitive advantage in our distance, someone talks about the distance of russia - this is her curse, on the other hand, this is her competitive advantage. how much money will be invested in the northern route how much money will be from the north south route course. i mean the northern sea route and so on. that is, there, and well, in fact, this is also what you are talking about? this is still a huge transit potential - this is also a plus , you can earn money. naturally. uh, here the western company does not fly through us to asia , the territory will go to the ocean companies of other companies. here the indians landed, how was their bread and salt there, they gave them to the school. and by law they couldn't even get out of the plane

get out until another arrives. yes, it's three days. excuse me on the plane to sit in a chair or uh, bread and salt, uh, and so on. uh, in some, well, it’s clear that it’s not in the five star hotel. this is a human approach, but we are like that, we are like that, there is a political part, which was later already in the answers to questions. we are now two words. let's talk about that too. here, but apparently, a little later, because we have, uh, guests, and i think our colleague will introduce the guest now. dmitry pike. he says, dima, i offer you the word even. strictly speaking, here, too, to guess. yes, uh, as vladimir vladimirovich said. at the end of the plenary session, it's one thing to live in moscow, one of the best cities on earth with its infrastructure, it's another thing to live somewhere else sergei semyonovich sobyanin, the capital with us. thank you for coming to us right after the plenary. sessions uh, a lot has been said today

about hmm the new economy about the new economic model that for moscow here moscow has always been in the economic models for the russian regions. yes, not only for the russian regions, but such a trendsetter that, but should we wait? so i think that today, not so much there, but the new economic model, most likely, the emphasis was. e, somewhat different , as it seemed to me, e that if a year ago, you remember, we spoke very well about, in fact, sanctions wars, what do you need to survive? ah, to ensure, uh, the stability of, uh, our country to ensure social guarantees, today we talked about development, that is, we returned to the agenda, which was a duo before the sanctions, that is, we are essentially. today it was fixed that we

we won the sanctions war that was announced to us and we are reaching growth rates that are approximately the same as the european countries that will be with us. well, read their predictions. we were predicted a collapse there by five by six by 10% of gdp this year, the same as germany in france, they even began to talk about this most important thing. confidence calm position of the president he talks about ordinary everyday things not alarm or save karaoke about how we should develop roads there, how it provides us, there, uh, an increase in the minimum wage social benefits and so on. well, you can

imagine that the president of the country, who is in some kind of disaster, is talking about it. no, this is the president of the country who feels confident, it seems to me that this is the most important thing, and i also always say this, that we have gone through a period here when we were afraid of some kind of cataclysm of horrors, well, which all experts predicted for us. well , we survived it thanks to the position of the president of the government of regional authorities. the most important business is the economy. it just seemed, well, much more stable than you yourself thought. this is cool. and i have always said, too, that if we want not only to survive, but also to win and not only now beyond the long term. we must think about what will happen in 5 years. and today already,

despite all the difficulties today, we are laying the foundation for this. this is the most important thing. that is why we are implementing photonics projects in moscow. and uh, so, uh, microelectronics artificial intelligence biotechnologies, which may seem unrealizable today, but tomorrow will become the main economies here on actually very interesting. the agenda is actually developing, because today we talked with many governors and also talked with people who, one way or another. what are these main infrastructure construction facilities in our country and knowing that the figures are record-breaking and the construction and commissioning of facilities. i asked them the same question, how is it possible? why do we have the same, uh, according to the western press in the opinion, well, according to

western politicians there is a year ago, an economy torn to shreds. remember they we have a task before us. and i asked you too many times. that's the question this year and last year. we will somehow slow down the development of one or another. uh, spheres, uh, urban economy, they said no, we have no plans, probably, theoretically. how to redistribute uh accents in the budget and well, how do you say slows down just in case. in general, i am categorically opposed to everyone slowing down, slowing down, they screw in a spiral that goes down. and we must do everything to make this spiral go up and for this you need do not slow down you need to accelerate. and when the president, i say that

we will accelerate the development there, and the north direction there is road construction, and the east direction is south and the south is north there and so on. well, i absolutely agree, and in moscow we are saying the same thing, we need to accelerate infrastructural development, which simply gives powerful signals and impetuses for the development of the business of the economy, based on this , of course, we will ensure social development and help our fighters who are today right now they are fighting to protect people, they need powerful modern weapons and they need enough. uh, the amount of ammunition can only be pronounced by a good strong well-established economy, but on the forum margins

at different sites they talked a lot about new industrialization. we talked about how to ensure technological sovereignty vladimir vladimirovich said that technological sovereignty should be in key sectors. this does not exclude interaction with other countries that want to interact with us. of course. what role does moscow play here and what role can more to say? you know moscow, let's say, it has always been associated there, the city from which industry is leaving. there is nothing

and i am generally categorically opposed to such a position, because without modern industry it is not necessary, therefore, to poison the metallurgical plant in moscow without some modern giant, of course. aircraft industry. uh space industry. a-a microelectronics pharmaceuticals food industry. cars, construction , primarily electric vehicles in other areas. well, you know, here's if not the core of this in the city is very difficult, others generally break spheres. well, we don’t even say that we need some kind of mass production of some goods, but the development

of experimental design small series of high-tech products is the core of the design bureaus of technoparks and innovations. it's just yes. the new industry of industrialization of such cities as moscow and we are just that's why the way is going, that's why we have created about 180 projects for the integrated development of territories there, on which about 15 million square meters of commercial real estate and industry, which will provide about 500,000 additional jobs. this is also here. well, as it were, planning strategic planning about the fact that here is one of those who, in fact, enjoyed moscow benefits, by the way, dmitry was summing up investment ratings today.

can praise moscow should be the first place engaged in such a pattern of these economic. production moscow has created an economic zone today in terms of the number of employees has already overtaken. leading

economic zone in tatarstan. this suggests that something is really happening in moscow, which in general radically changes the idea of ​​the role of the importance of moscow industry and look at the rudnev industrial zone printers, uh, a huge industrial zone, including moskvich zelenograd others. well, in addition to everything , technopolises, which will be the focus of the country's space science in general. and these places, which i'll repeat earlier, which used to be occupied by, uh, our western. well before, well, colleagues, well, yes, colleagues. they are engaged, in principle, in the same industry somewhere. now they are developing in another place and they used it, but i don’t know

, so i’ll just colloquially say just chocolate conditions that you created for them preferential conditions that are gone. and by the way, they give signals that the ready can return there, somehow i don’t hear such signals especially. although probably there, especially this is a trading network, no matter how their places are empty, but instead i'm afraid that it's too late to explain, what we will take into account, how they behaved here, yes, please, if there are some worthy investors with high technologies and so on, but it's right to look, what is happening in russia is just the point. pragmatic pragmatism. well, this, of course, is the stimulus that develops all this for us. uh, a very serious incentive. we may not have e for a long time. and this is a plus, sergei semyonovich, we are always talking about import substitution of import substitution counterwill. there is such a wonderful industry as tourism a and moscow well, this

there was, probably, after all, a pre-covid period, when it showed, just some crazy results there, growth was there, i don’t know, there. you probably almost doubled the huge number of people who came to get in touch for 7 years. yes , now import substitution in tourism. there , too, probably, such a task is not banal at all. and this sector, by the way, is also on the sidelines of your men's international economic forum. huge huge attention is paid to each region wants to see a large number of hosts and talk about domestic tourism in the first place and in moscow always always domestic tourism. e, he was dominant, accounting for almost three-quarters of the entire tourist flow. and when european tourists left us, they left, not even during their time. they left during the pandemic. we still retain most of the tourist flow, because

we were inside russia. yes, and moscow is one of the most iconic and central, and the regions where tourists come business tourism, medical tourism, cultural tourism, sports tourism. whatever yes a and today, when we resumed our cultural program of the festival and opened the city after the pandemic, then, of course, the flow of domestic tourism has practically recovered. i think that it will even increase, with regard to foreign tourists, but they also do not need to run away with them. and i think now after china opened up, they started to open up the tourism market. india middle east i think to a large extent make up for the loss of tourists who came to the land of foreign tourists, yes, oh, which we also, of course, yes, we will also

make up for foreign tourists, moscow, as the president said, is one of the best cities in the world, a safe , clean, well-maintained city that has something to see, therefore, well, it's very worth it. yes, when the president says that it is one thing to live in moscow, that is, moscow is everything else. yes, he meant, compared to those strange ones where they left, he doesn’t offend anyone, he correctly said he hinted that the guys in moscow are better and he’s right. we see that more than half of those who left moscow for various reasons, they returned and work, we see here by the current of the machine, and for many things in business, this used to be called downshifting. i don’t know how

i’m choosing some other clever word for this now. once again, i congratulate you on your well-deserved first place, i can honestly say. honestly, well, in this, in fact, colleagues are working very seriously to get around the mask, therefore, to stay in this position. this is wrong. it's just that it doesn't come naturally sergei semyonovich sobyanin, mayor of moscow, at a discussion site russia 24. thank you very much. thanks, good luck to you. word to our colleagues. yes thank you, yes thank you. dmitry was interested in your conversation. uh, we have andreevich kosiev. uh, the head of vtb is visiting, traditionally, but you should always come right after the e-plenary meeting of the st. petersburg forum, of course, moscow is one of the best capitals in the world, uh, and that's about it. here we are just going to tell you, yes, and st. petersburg is also beautiful, a city, a unique city in general. it has its own atmosphere. and so on is also very active

develops. in general, russia is great, and the place to live about this is the president. today i talked a lot, but i want you to like it too. but the participant of the plenary sessions, a-a , sold out about their impressions, what was it for you. the main thing you know is that we live in such an unusual time and there are a lot of people of different anxiety concerns. here's what's amazing. this, uh, vladimir vladimirovich’s speech inspires such confidence, such calmness, but not some kind of reassurance, which may be superfluous, but precisely the confidence of tomorrow day confidence that we are doing such priorities are set correctly, yes, and in economic terms in social policy. and this, of course, is worth a lot, because it seems to me that his word is very important for our entire country today, and we see that our president knows what he is doing, knows where he is leading the country. e knows she has a strategy. so i think that this is the main

impression. it wasn't any crisis speech at all it was a speech by a leader who absolutely knows where he's going. where are we and where does it lead? eh, how would e country and it inspires, of course, a very great confidence in what we are doing at the moment. now you know, i also noted for myself. and just before the guests began to arrive. we gave comments, and with a colleague of alexander suvorov, i sent my position. it seemed to me that, uh, well, firstly, uh, the speech was specifically dedicated to the economic bloc and, uh, mainly russian topics. it was an unprecedented long one, and then even the president apologized a little. and as a cultured person, they want to apologize for a huge amount of the task facing country before business before the economy. and, of course, here it is, uh, the measures laid out on the shelves. it is clear that they are not exhaustive. it is clear that many, many more things are needed, but here, as

you spontaneously noticed, the main message is so for me. uh, the most important thing i've heard. we are creating a proactive economy. it would seem that this is kind of a common thing, yes, what is supply-side economics and i tried to explain, it's simple. for me, this is not an innovative economy, an active economy that offers services that are developing very quickly, yes, as it were, so that you note for economic measures. now, let 's talk about the economy, i completely agree that we do not eat from the contrary, we do not defend ourselves. we are not trying to bypass the sanctions and are trying to put them in front of it. yes, if you want, we will build our new world in terms of what we understand today that we are at such a very important turning point. and i think from the uh economic system that has developed, mainly the post-war period. yes , under the dominance of western countries, because the soviet union even then fell out of systems separately, and in the nineties we began

to join this, but since it was already too late to join, we, of course, had to. to accept in many respects the conditions that existed. and now such a radical restructuring is underway, it is quite painful, and the president spoke about this today, they are only for us. it will be painful for those who were sitting in the front row. and those who are late, like us in the nineties at the end there is somewhere in the hall. yes, it will be painful for those who started this whole thing, like all these sanctions and so on, but on really. uh, hmm , the president has said this so many times, uh, the sovereignty of the state. yes economic properties. no, the political one, of course, is based on the possibility of equal opportunities , for all of which the dominance of the dollar did not exist today, about which the president said today that, well, they were not against the dollar at all, you know, i know this, because i myself 10 years ago, he suggested this process and so on. this was not picked up, and because

, in general, our society did not have such demand. we have never worked against someone or against something. you have used a tool that yes , until this tool turned into a weapon, about which they intimidate, as they try to use for military-political purposes. that's why i would say, and today there was a very balanced speech of the president. oh, in general, all the main priorities and macroeconomic stability, which he spoke about, and new technologies for development and creation. e new payment systems, by the way, speaking of yuan rubles. and in general about what today the world is changing, including its economy, that china has already become today the first country in terms of parity, that russia is in sixth place. we have good prospects for moving forward, and even this year, which , in general, is very difficult for us, it still did not come true. uh, pessimistic forecasts and, most likely, uh, economic growth will be positive, which gave very little

just recently. yes, we see all the positive trends, without exaggerating or problems that we have, they certainly exist in in the field of international settlements in the field of modern technologies, but at the same time he also said that this is a certain challenge for us, and they accepted this challenge. and so far , life shows that we will still call with these. in general, you understand, you understand, here, uh, here it is, well, the russian trait of the russian trait of all peoples westerners call all russians yes, no matter what nationality, and this is a russian trait. until it hits the wall. we seem to be active. well, we'll do something. well, not so active when pearls are important, so that when they pinned down they acted correctly, and here it is very important that the president is very calm. here he is, without any pulling, clearly sets out. e position completely uh, with uh, cold and such a head. this is also important,

because when they are pinned, it can also be done in different ways, yes, in the case of mistakes they make , this calculation will happen now. a blow of such power has a very large psychological impact. if you look there, there's even the russian bbc, which gives this constant such an impact on the brain, yes, that for every question, that's what you guys have badly. this is bad and bad at the front and bad inside, and everything will be bad. eh, yes, you know, er, here. uh, this is the desire to provoke people into a panic in order to say yes, there will be nothing for your goosebumps. it sucks, just like the youth. this is how it is expressed to force the younger generation, which is the future of the economy, to create this unstable, uh, situation within people, so that they leave once again, when there is no need for this, there is nothing wrong, there is work abroad and so on about it also today, the president is asking the question of how to relate to your country. that's what

was main to people and so on. well, if we return to the economic moments. here we are this afternoon with you at your session discussed the future of the ban. there were a lot of initiatives of the president regarding investments here, and the stock market, which i personally am very pleased with, and uh, by the nature of my former profession, probably, but so, nevertheless, uh, the financial component here for all these of our . well, let's so want money, enough of russia very high margin of safety. you know that we are far from having used up all our reserves that we have. although we have been robbed and a significant part of today is frozen, both the money of the central bank and the money of our investors, but the money is there. you know, the private sector has. why? i am actually actively advocating for the private sector to be able to invest more, because the funds

are liquid today, quite large companies today still work from profit and banks work from profit. yes, uh question it is important that the money does not flow away somewhere again if they cannot find a use here, yes , but a use. i think there's enough here, and not just uh, in terms of buying out the assets of the foreigners that are leaving. yes, which, probably, can also be done and there are certain rules established, but, it is important that new opportunities open up and some of their states, today the president is also talking about creating conditions to facilitate this, a number of states of the world support . i think these programs will implemented. i know from my clients who are really ready today and will invest in the russian economy to open up a whole range of things, especially since we need it. we now clearly understand that we have a number of such gaps, uh, our uh in our industry , including a number of advanced technologies, we have to make it up and

we can do it absolutely calmly, because from the point of view of the brain, it’s like, yes, from the point of view vision of an intellectual level, and our engineers , our scientists, we have vast opportunities much more than other countries, which are today. in general, somewhere, maybe even ahead of us in, e, advanced industries. we can do it and we must do it. here are the measures that the president voiced. uh, in order to, uh, the labor market, what is this new component of the economy, uh, supply-side economics and uh, proactive economy, there was a big bloc about labor, and, of course, the labor market is just one economic indicator. these are integrated things. these are incomes, respectively demand and so on. and i'm just that, after all. let's do it like this let's talk about what else could be done to speed up the process, or until those measures

are sufficiently accelerated to speed up the development of the labor market with chicken innovative workers. people were making money. he said that we now have the historically lowest unemployment, which is certainly an achievement of the government and the policies that are being pursued, but on the other hand, he spoke about those worlds that will be or are planned in the field, primarily education and training, these additional incentives. yes promotion - this is very important. we must not forget about education. good to state today. well, how to increase the same expenses there, on the contrary, but it does this not at the expense of, but the same educational money yes, but on the contrary yes, there is enough funding. i think that the training of personnel, respectively, yes, i talk a lot about what we do n’t have. and the personnel, uh, at the level of the master there, and so on from the production of the middle link. yes , these are all the questions they are in sight. today, i also spoke about this as the president. i think that quality is important. well, it is important to increase

the population more to give birth in any way. here, that's right. i think we should keep the doors open for ours. who wanted to move to russia to live and work here, too, must be done. it's extremely important there. today, of course. uh, the state is also taking a huge number of measures to assist us in general. uh, how would families with children become in the center, probably, all social policies are again new measures. so, they were announced again. yes, the focus here is on families with children. and hmm, and the number of children. all decreases for incentive measures. yes not necessarily children already can be and less. this is very important, because the country is really a country, we have a large resource , we have a huge one, but the population needs to be increased. well, here i am. uh, theology of new robotics to make up for the shortage of labor. it must be formed , and, accordingly, the ability to introduce these new technologies.