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reasoned everything would start working by itself, but this did not affect the person himself. that is, everything was around the person. and what are we waiting for now the so-called fifth technological revolution, a set of new technologies, may not lead to the fact that something around us will be different, but we ourselves will become someone else, these are such sketches, there is post-biological life or there is artificial intelligence, which will acquire a personality , there is a lot of debate now. and what will happen when they do, and two artificial intelligences communicate with each other, and so on and so forth. they can generate something without even realizing themselves. in general, there are many such interesting things that need to be discussed now, so that later it will not be too late and and the topic of our meeting today, and it is right there and dedicated. according to mordashvili, this is the world , probably the most outstanding figure of the 20th century, a russian-speaking philosopher with philosophy. he said when it's too late. that's why it's not too late. let

's discuss today what needs to be done today , whether we are ready for it or not, and i would also like to ask valery fedorov to show a very interesting report. he had a study done for me. here we are now discussing, again like this, and before the session, the results are surprising on the one hand, and on the other hand, indicative, and again on the third hand. they tell us what we need to do next, please, in general, it’s hard for people to talk about the future, because it doesn’t exist yet. firstly, secondly, because well, let's just say, the real one. uh, complex anxious and does not become calmer and clearer. that's why the simplest method of predicting extrapolation linear here it is, uh, it means that it leads people to the fact that, probably, in the future it will be still more dangerous, not clearer, even more difficult. that is why many do not think about the future at all. we, on the contrary, invite them to a dialogue, ask questions, provoke them in some

i mean, and right here. er, some interesting data, indeed. we can show, well, firstly, as it turns out, in spite of everything, russia remains a country of techno-optimists. that is, if, on the whole , the future is for us today, it is rather such a zone of threats and dangers of problems. uh, then the technologies, uh, and above all the technologies of the future are those that do not yet exist, but which may appear in the near future. seen more like a tool. uh, solving these problems is like a way to make our lives safer and more comfortable, uh, richer. more worthy, and not like uh, well, in that famous film about the terminator uh , it means, like uh, it means some kind of golem that was created by man and destroys it, but no, we remain really strange tech-

optimists, but about 77%, they say that they rather trust or tend to trust future technologies. well, and, of course, an interest in science. for a long time we recorded it was low in russia, but in recent years it has been a very positive trend. and this interest is growing in all forms and, uh, of course when we're talking about technology. it's something that comes from science and something that has already entered our concrete life. and here we see that interest is also growing significantly. what do we expect from these technologies in general. why should they be developed? here? it is interesting and in itself the improvement of improving the standard of living of people improving the quality of life or er, so to speak about achieving the common good for mankind is only in second position in the first position, and people talk about development is important not to stand still keep up, that is there is another element of competition is very important. that is, if we stand, and

others will not stand, others will develop, and yes, others will move forward. so, e and e w- means what exactly what exactly we are waiting for, and here we have already given a long list of the so-called closed question. it was possible to choose, and here, uh, on the first uh, the positions came out, which means things that a, therefore, can help each of us if we find ourselves in a difficult situation. well, look at the most. uh, the technology is in demand in terms of the need to invest in it now to develop, which means visual auditory prostheses. well, the problem is eternal, yes, so there is. uh, the ways to solve it, they are improving, but obviously to uh, so the desired solution is still far away. but we need to focus on this beyond the spinal neuroprosthesis. another extremely

important thing. 3d bioprinters are bioprinters. yes, that is, we are talking about the cultivation of organs, that is, everything is again about health, well, it is clear that not only the topic, health itself is the last. uh, there has been decades of growth, but here is the fragility of the modern world that we we all feel it every day today, it actualizes the need for health, and this began in a pandemic. and now it is developing all the more, since there is still targeted delivery of medicines. well, also from this story. yes, from this series then robotics fusion power, by the way, with a very high level of 85% quantum computer. here here suddenly arises 79% what is a quantum? what is it eaten with? why is it needed? but it turns out that the quantum is already gradually moving to the masses. here and many are already here already quantum computers and and by the way, quantum communication and computer and communication is not only computing, but also the transmission of information. ah, artificial

intelligence. well, many no longer consider it the technology of the future. although, of course, this is not so. today, after all, it is at such initial stages. well, well, advanced, but still we are waiting for a strong intellect, artificial, which is not yet available. so that it does not have a human interface, a computer , genome editing, unmanned vehicles , to the full reality of a digital twin of a person. i think we need to take advantage of this social demand. we really have this social optimism. it really is and all the risks and dangers from the development of technology in our modern disharmonious unbalanced society. here they are more and more manifested, but have not yet led to the transition of the russians to the side of technosketics, and such a danger certainly exists thank you and i would go to our second speaker, and

maxim stanislavovich, and now the decade of science and technology is going to the thirtieth year , and a lot of things are being done trying different forms, supports and sciences and technologies. not only grants are different. that's because i asked you to comment on what? formats have shown their advantages, maybe some have shown their shortcomings. maybe we should try it in the next years, and the second point, generally speaking, it is not in vain that science and technology announced as a trend the role of science and technology in the development of the country, and on the other hand, the role of the country in the development of science and technology is a very broad question, i can’t even answer everything for us will. i think i will tell about such an important thing. that's why uh people think so these technologies, because everyone is well aware that to be competitive. tomorrow it must be done today. and that is why the president put forward an initiative to make the form

of future technologies so that all promising areas are considered once a year. yes, our first block is connected with data transmission computing technologies, where quantum history will be so leading. obviously later. health technologies will also be considered, for example, as something that interests people in the first place, but uh, where does all this experience come from? yes, we have a well -established history, with the same artificial intelligence. yes, which already many people think that they need to enter their lives , so it’s not such an important story, the president every year in the fall in november participates in the form of artificial intelligence, and with each stage we see how this topic is becoming more and more and more enters, uh, into the life of our country. the device that surrounds us in the control model that we use, so in order for other technologies

to also be active. were important not only scientific er research, as such, not only the company's investments are important, such stories are also important knowledge exchange exchange of opinions, therefore, when for some important for the future development of the country, both the scientific community and representatives of the business community gather in the topic. it always gives such a synergistic effect on new projects. uh, a new understanding of the importance of certain areas, so i'm sure. uh , what colleagues will conduct. eh, such a forum, in about a month it turns out. yes, yes, july 13, respectively, it will be, uh, actually case for this topic. i am sure this is a serious step forward.

thank you, we will pass a big exam, how to say alexey evgenievich and the exam involves preparation, but in general the head of a corporation is a big state, and for the last year and a half, we are talking not only about problems. we say that this is a window of opportunity, and you are right. here is our first exam. the first session will be in a month. but this is not the last exams, in order to get a diploma you need to work hard and prepare. here the state corporation is ready. what you question? difficult another dimension i will pass here everything is possible. so let's imagine that we are in stalin's office around august 15-17. famously you immediately sit like this, but only in such categories so that we don’t lose the audience to beria, i’ll tell you more, so, ah, so the date

is approximately august 15-18, hiroshima nagasaki has already happened, but rosatom has not yet been born yet no decision was made to establish the first main directorate. and so vissarionovich gathered scientists and sat there. well, still very young. by today's standards, the sarka-year-old khariton is 41-year-old korchatov. uh, the future minister, the first minister of vannikov, well, such a person in the defense industry, and now, the supervising deputy prime minister by last name. well, express yourself in modern language and imagine now, if the starion asks igor vasilyevich well, are you ready to create here or not, yes, that is, in this sense, and about the choice , what kind of choice are you, there is no choice, and there is no other way, except for everything is to create, and so to speak, e is not thanks in spite of. in what sense can rosatom be a little more ready, than all the others i say again, we emphasize, if we are the first, then only among equals, from time immemorial, we have been able

to overcome the valley of death with the least losses. this is the distance from the idea and the scientific groundwork to the industrial embodiment of the product, but due to the simple physical threat of complete destruction, the path was passed at one time. well, as quickly as possible and it is in the code. and we keep it as a sacred thing. in what? in the sense that they are not ready, but rosatom is a huge corporation of 500 enterprises 330 people only direct workers, not counting our cities there, that is, of course, such a complex , clumsy, sometimes very slow elephant. and if we are guided by all corporate principles figuratively when making a decision to create a quantum computer, we will first hold a risk committee, then we will deal with the compass. then we will involve antisocial analysis, so to speak, yes, then you

will spend about five years on this. since the task is completely unknown, not in the technological, if you want in the scientific sense of the word. eh, and in this i mean, of course, we have something to work out. there is only one way out for you, and again, if you turn to the experience of the first nuclear project. it's like in the song of the famous group will and mind the will of the leadership to do it at all costs, but is it not enough, it is necessary to have the mind of scientists. and a certain space of trust, to which there can be, relatively speaking, a vice-premier of the level of beria, which means industrialists, and military industrialists of the vannikov level of slavsky and, of course, smart heads such what igor vasilyevich yuri was without a doubt borisovich well, and many many others, whose portraits hang in our office. in this sense, we will do everything so that the valley of death from the idea from scientific insight to

the industrial consumer aspect of opponents. can be faster thank you very much. and oleg valentinovich here. 4 years ago , roadmaps were launched as part of the digital economy, and one of the roadmaps for quantum communications was assigned to russian railways. i do a lot of work in this area. at first i asked a lot of people. and why why did russian railways stop now set? why you? certainly? reply. probably, those who don’t remember don’t know, but again, russian railways, too, probably should be ready for this situation, and it’s ready in terms of its internal structure. you are probably always in a state of readiness, because strategically just the atom is responsible for the strategic directions of sovereignty, and russian railways is also a strategic direction. how are you ready with plans from prospects? thank you very much, ruslan history proves that we will not go anywhere from technology. we

must really move forward actively uh, understand what's going on uh, look for technology. here it is separately. um , it would probably be worthwhile to dwell on, uh, what technologies will be, they will be good or evil, and they will be the way we, uh, make them. yes, as far as i remember, artificial intelligence. right now, hmm, an active discussion is underway, but in order to grow it and it needs to be brought up, including certain data, that's who will be laying it. what kind of data is artificial intelligence. and this is also a very big question. uh, we're talking about what we it is necessary to lay down purely technologically, and robotic e-e algorithms in order to be set up, i don’t know colleagues, but let's think, maybe culture and art. this artificial intelligence will do better closer to people, and he will start

to think differently. this is how you need to approach, but i will not go far from the railways. we er, you know, i think that's an axiom. e, embedded in e. our today's name, when it is necessary already late is absolutely fair. that is, if we encounter something there and say what is needed, it means that someone is not doing something provided. and we are like a railroad. uh, we pride ourselves on being safe and secure and , uh, everyone knows that, so it's an axiom. well , then we must foresee that something e will happen. it is literally a few figures in the current e situation. uh, maybe not so publicly. it can be seen last year we faced. with e hacker attacks this is not news to us. uh, there's always someone attacking our system. and let me remind you that russian railways are, uh, the biggest storehouse, a storehouse of information. all at

us all processes cargo. passengers, everything is taken into account in uh, everything is decomposed into systems. accordingly, we are the largest bigdata. we need to analyze this and, above all , protect and preserve, respectively, uh, until last year. well, three four thousand. and so per day. well, for us it was normal, but the figure is 277.000. and so per day for us, but it was a serious test, but we knew that we needed to prepare for certain areas, and, accordingly, it was difficult and difficult. we are all learning and moving forward. well we're ready for the formation of such security and , accordingly, the railway at the moment. it's not cargo. passengers. these are not steam locomotives. and this is management in general, including, as i said, and the it system is digital systems. here, uh, that's all. e! well

, new investment in the railroad is literally, uh, made, uh, very serious lately . quantum technologies and the question is, yes, where is the railway and quantum technologies. why why? ah, all our information needs to, uh, protect the mechanism. uh, the mechanism can be different and we are grateful that uh hmm together with the government and the presidential administration. hey, this is a comprehensive program. e, approach e. protection. here we look through this prism. uh, hmm, we've been assigned to deal with quantum communications. er, accordingly, we got involved in this process, and i can just judge by, er, by my colleagues in the railroad. yes. well, first it's uh, as rutherford once said. yes, any

truth. uh, three stages of recognition of scientific truth. the first one is absurd, the second one has something in it and the third one is well-known, but at the moment within the team, we already in the third stage it is well known. yes, it is needed today. we are one of the leaders and we are implementing this program together with the government. uh, hmm, this is primarily the creation of an environment for e-sharing, growing up in quantum e-communications, this is creation. e sensors. i. e, the creation of specific equipment. we do all this together. here we grow together. well, let's go back to the very beginning. is it possible to stop e, progress - progress will we get e from the railway one example absolutely? applied is moscow

we show the central ring e as our flagship now , which means that e was formed on traditional railway technologies, and two trains follow each other at the beginning they went every 6 minutes, and then 5 minutes now 4 minutes 1 minute. here you can calculate how much more passengers can be transferred immediately. we need to go to 3 minutes, but in order to go to 3 minutes , the driver already does not cope with the work of 3 minutes , there is not enough reaction. and we know that sensors are sensors. uh, and the automatic system is gives us we already have. ah, drones. uh, unmanned vehicle, unmanned swallow, and tested we now already have certification at level three goa uh, plus. uh, we'll finish next year. uh, the fourth absolutely last level will be ready, but

here's the answer to your question. if we don't do this, we won't go to a big city agglomeration, it simply won't work. er, that's why we're optimists. we are reinventing technology. we are for good new technologies. let's teach them to be kind. thank you. great, masha , you will become an artist, the owner of a fashion store, no wonder it has grown along with my business. i helped to equip it , drew portraits of buyers of competitors , monitored it, then opened an account with sberbank and now we use special services, all analytics, and the business has grown in full view. open an account with sberbank and use retail services for free forever. learn more about your customers. compare performance with competitors in the sberbusiness app. grow your business

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forum continues its work. let me remind you that today is the final closing day in just 4 days, about 200 events took place. and some of them will be held today for a forum of creative technologies and also youth day, but let's summarize the results of the form. and, of course, the most important event is plenary session. it was held the day before and vladimir putin and also the president of algeria took part in it, if we talk about the main economic statements that were made , so, of course, a huge number of them were on the macroeconomic agenda. the head of state spoke about the current state of the economy. first of all, speech. it was, of course, he gdp so by the end of april it is already known that the figure was an increase. this is about three point or three tenths of a percent , and the president is sure that by the end of the year we we will see a mark, plus 2% or so of this impression. tel, in fact, if we talk about expert opinions in sberbank, i think that