kingdom everything is fair here we welcome everyone who joined us on channel russia 24 fifth studio and uh, now let's talk again about how uh in the west

look at objective data. rather, they are trying to look at objective data for them. this is not actively allowed to be done, but by diligence. uh, including our politicians and diplomats from time to time this happens to us now in touch konstantin yuryevich gavrilov head of the russian delegation in vienna on issues of military security and arms control konstantinovich greetings. hello show, please, what you demonstrated yesterday, just to those assembled. or rather, those who did not want to. uh, desperate to listen to this, but you had to know, it wasn't yesterday . and, of course, all these washed, believers who deny everything and print that we are engaged in empty propaganda, we demonstrated these hummers fragments sent to us by the ministry of defense of the war zone, on which the blood

of innocent people is least of all soldiers here license plates. eh, you can read eh, and after all hummers were sent to fight against military targets, and we said that you are them, uh, ukrainians. you hit civilians. uh, hospitals in kindergartens and not selectively at all, you hit near donetsk. this is direct evidence of your war crimes and the fact that the westerners, first of all, the americans send these things. uh, to continue the war. this is a war crime that would be so much trumpeted. well, of course it started. uh, hysteria, and they began to interrupt the performance, shouting, uh, throwing accusations and so on. uh, well, in my uh, a call

to consult a psychiatrist. they, uh, got up and left. ah. the hall is a sign of protest, because they could not say anything. well, the ussr looked like this, uh, primitively, well, konstantinovich can, well, they really followed your advice. well, if everything is on them, uh, you know , our accidents remained, all the azerbaijanis remained, our neutrals, the swiss remained. eh, here the serbs listened to all this to the end. uh, no big deal. that they were sitting in the form of a room in the watching, it's broadcasting and it's all the same what difference does it make, he says, moreover , they looked at it in the capital. we are our task. we see that such things are conveyed, yes, to the general

public, including through e, our television did. i'm on russia today on thursday i'll be speaking in spanish. uh, russia today , we will demonstrate all this. we will do this, water stone wants without it, it is impossible, because naked insults and accusations against them. they are not wealthy. we are determined by all these accusations. yes, as they say, here is my colleague, also a state duma deputy yevgeny popov used every opportunity to get their point across. yes, he often performs, but on western tv channels and not only , uh, konstantinovich here. there is a lot of attention here now, and hmm, on our side and on the other side, it stands out, and the so-called counter-offensive of the counter-captivity of the ukrainian armed forces, because of which a lot of noise is happening in ukraine itself and in western countries, where, of course, they pay attention to the result of this counter-offensive was frankly counted on absolutely one

received. uh. in the end, it's completely different. and here uh, it's a security forum. yes , it was discussed in some way. here is what we have so far. we do this all the time, and every wednesday. uh, in our commentary performances with the videos we're showing, how well they burn. ah german cats. uh, how they cannot counteract our mines, how the lancet hits them with weak aft ammunition and how tanks are handed over by working soldiers. yes, you can even offer it, i would put it with the permission of the austrian authorities. here before the move looked. well, what is there to say here? in fact, even in kiev itself, mr. zelensky hints that he , in fact, is responsible for what is happening with him there at the front.

i would like our director to show this article, or rather, this is a quote. well , the offensive failed completely due to a serious miscalculation by president vladimir zelensky , who launched it without the proper amount of western weapons. this is, uh, the former adviser to the ex-president of ukraine leonid kuchma , oleg uh, soskin said uh, in his telegram channel. well, here, uh, just one more time there is this news. uh, which, too, um , as it always seemed to me, she should have found some kind of broad discussion. e in the media in the west. naturally. there it was somehow silenced. i mean, what is vladimir putin an african leader. i recently showed an agreement agreed in turkey with kiev, which kiev violated. yes, yes , we talked about him here at one time in our speeches and so on, but ours is completely arrogant, when we fulfilled all

the conditions, we threw it under pressure from the americans and english ukrainian retreated zelensky but then they could have saved the country somehow. i don’t know, and there really were specific conditions, but everything that is not done, you know, is done for the better, and now here we are, i listen to experts and communicate with which colleagues, not with everyone, because many are afraid and you know, uh, -to me, everyone is shouting about the counteroffensive and the counteroffensive is not enough. uh, i think we emphasized. eh, readiness e of our army officers soldiers of our equipment of our people to resist decisively. in which plan here is a counteroffensive counteroffensive? well, and that there was a counteroffensive on the first line, all the teeth that wore a breakthrough were broken off, they

are now depleting too . uh, hit by air defense lancets comes to the forefront and defense. he is immediately amazed by them, that is, there is simply an destruction of the ukrainian army. yes, konstantin yuryevich, you must have heard the statement from the american side before. and recently it was from poland when there rather high ranks in their ministries of defense said that e. well, well, probably, the ukrainian military will have to be replaced by the american military or the polish military. yes, information is already slipping here, what will be formed in the future, huh? and 300,000 mobile forces along the borders of russia kunat, what is it for? why am i saying this, just here at the st. petersburg international economic forum. uh,

vladimir putin said bluntly, but you guys, everything is clear. you are already involved in this conflict. yes they are and put it all directly and legal issues are discussed here, but i will put it when the killer gives. a knife, uh, a man gives a knife to a murderer, who is he with a participant in the murder, that's all, and indeed, the ukrainians are already depleting their mobilization reserves. eh, nothing can be ruled out, but notice what kind of army we have now, seasoned, trained , motivated, and actually winning with our weapons and our motivation with the heroism of our soldiers is almost never possible. here i will be in it. but i am convinced i think, and also think the majority of the russian people konstantin yuryevich is another topic that you probably also raised in your speeches. uh, this is a tragedy at the kakhovskaya

hydroelectric power station - this is an environmental tragedy. this is a human tragedy, a tragedy that will probably drag on for many years after such an environmental effect of environmental damage has been postponed. and how, let's say , western colleagues react to what you say to them or they again, they say that russia is shelling itself. no, you know. here already uh, differentiated. many fit there was not a single meeting devoted to this at in the last one of the last meetings of the e we paid attention to the reaction when we showed you attacked ukraine ten times during the actual years starting last summer, and 10 hit the station while holding. here they did everything possible, there were also the last moment of the attack, again the exact blows could not stand it. all your generals have stated this more than once, the ukrainians naturally

go into complete denial. it was you who undermined everything of the russian federation. here. uh, which is indicative of the americans and the british. e, in principle, kept silent repeated. is the same the song, probably somehow from the northern stream , is responsible, for the undermining of which they appointed a zaluzhny and laughter and sin. here , uh, other delegations of the european union, you know, the appointed speakers are representatives of the european union field, uh, who studied him, who works out he is more western bourgeois than all the bourgeois. so, uh, the british, the americans, the ukrainians, and we are answering. the rest are all sitting in silence. this is the silent majority. we are increasingly establishing quiet contacts with them. here is the situation that they have going on in

camp. we know for sure, but there is nothing good. no, they say one thing, they wink and say completely different things, like this , konstantin yuryevich is here, uh, i would like you to have one more, well, not news. this, of course, is hardly news. still, this is a separate opinion. eh, one politician, but very symptomatic now you will understand what i am talking about, you will probably agree with me. i 'm the president of the czech republic, petre pavli, uh, who spoke about how, well, of the russians in the united states, at least it's time to follow up somehow. then he had to justify your words. he said that in comparing the russians with the japanese in the us which during the second world war. they were resettled to other states, and sometimes to concentration camps, it was only a context, and not a measure that should be introduced against russian citizens blah blah blah. eh, here. uh, how do you feel

like this? well, not that it’s a statement, but it’s just, probably, a way of thinking , you know, a person who has worked in nato, he judges the view up to the categories that are accepted in us really from a height more than the japanese were just the internet. guilty without guilt the americans do not particularly talk about this and they were imprisoned throughout the war. in the camps or in some way were isolated. i propose this in relation to russian citizens who are abroad as potential adversaries in them. doesn't add anything good. you understand, here are all western pro-western young europeans who have worked somewhere in some structures or worse. they climb out to get into these structures. they remind just the same. uh, the heroes are servile people, the titles are real dogs sometimes, the harder the punishment, the more emilia and gentlemen. apparently, according to this principle, all these mulads are europeans and live, and judging by

the reactions they express on the forum , who loves all the pjs more in the face of comrades, americans. ah. well, in conclusion, perhaps, your conversation. i would like to have an assessment of everything that is happening, that we have some kind of general assessment. eh, they understand some kind of understanding that i don’t know, they are listening there or they are listening to us there. so you keep talking about the fact that there they get up, shout, shout, leave , get up, shout, shout, leave, as if, well, they deliberately create such an atmosphere, and deafness, or something to everything that the russian side dmitry declares on the must go show, you know, after all these things somehow they come out and you are them well , we hope that you don’t come out and kill and say. find a guide to solve. how will you behave? here you see yourself decent, imagine ice-like, seriously speaks dearly to us. well, don't go out, please let the walk continue

to reach them and we use these tools to inform where we are. will deliver. yes, and unfortunately, unfortunately, haimar debris from storm shadow rocket debris and rocket debris. e. here are the three sevens. unfortunately, i understand that it will be enough to continue to show this and show, uh, in order for the information war and uh, we are the russian federation in international organizations, of which there are very few left, we are going on this war. well, what can i say like and say upvotes. yes, we will not lead, let the soldier. yes, let's go, let's go as soldiers, soldiers here will be able to put the sleepy war. and i can do it with go off automatically. we brought others. but sit down with them to talk, who can.

how to break through the wall of silence, really, well, i hope , at least, well, from the reaction that periodically still slips, including in the american press, when zelensky himself is asked a question there. well, why was it russian? well, in terms of why it was necessary for the russians to blow up the kakhovka hydroelectric power station, of course, look how much they are affected, how much effort we offer to help. eh, they dried up. they think maybe hit through the dried uh, but uh reservoir below me. i am absolutely convinced, um, the general staff of our military leadership, for sure , everything is calculating much ahead about the kakhovka explosion. we also talked about when a year ago, that this, perhaps, was brought out of kherson not in vain. eh, you can see your units in time, after all,

the leadership is everything. you know everything. i hope they have u trick with this u with kakhovskaya and offensive. e in kherson and zaporozhye will fail further, they simply will not have an army ; planes are no longer tigers, nor tiger tanks german will soon be offered to be included in the red book, because the russians are destroying them. here, uh, as vladimir putin said, but the f-16 aircraft also burn remarkably konstantinovich thank you very much for immediately receiving s-300 either letters or anything konstantinovich thank you for finding time for us konstantin gavrilov head of the russian delegation in vienna on issues of military security and arms control was in touch with us. and now we will touch on another very important topic like uh, which is now very closely and attention to american secretary of state. blinkin came to china, met with the signon, met with the bathroom, and it is clear that they were in a row

completely. the chaotic statements that have been made, including by the chinese side regarding relations with the united states, but everyone understands perfectly well the united states has already begun a wave of sanctions pressure on china for a very long time china understands this very well, but here it complicates everything with the fact that, well, it's like uh, again, the two biggest trade trading economic partners, and one of which, uh, is trying to second a little, like, well, not just a little, but to overplay it very strongly and force him to play by different rules. that's american friendship. now let's talk about this with alexei alexandrovich oil, director of the institute of asia and africa, mgus , alexey alexandrovich is in touch with us. greetings . yes hello a little. i saw you at the st. petersburg international economic forum, but i never caught up with you, i wanted to say hello to you. like this remotely, at least hmm alexey alexandrovich, please tell me, here and in

understanding and american friendship. everything is clear, yes, the relationship of cooperation, and in the understanding of the chinese here , in my opinion, two understandings collide, which do not understand each other. uh, of course they don't understand, but they should understand too. they're not even meant to be. for this, the point is that here is the key phrase. uh, brinkino c&din meetings by pin, but from the side by sitimpin. it's that china is not going to move the us, uh , the us is not going to compete with their position . that is, uh, china is calming down the usa . what guys, we are not talking about this, we are not talking about rivalry. we are talking about interactions, and the united states is trying to methodically put pressure on china and e, almost completely shift the chinese development trajectory of the development model, which china also has, and china has trained economic and policy personnel for this business and, probably, never in the last 40 years. uh, the us didn't interfere so actively in chinese affairs.

both directly and indirectly. well, of course. uh, now, if we look at the nature of the relationship between china and the us on the one hand , and china and russia on the other hand. it's basically two. so type of interaction uh, note that china is constantly called russia our friend. well, the chinese head of the russian leader is an old friend - this is not just a figure of speech. this is a special status, which, in fact , is assigned. eh, and an internal political decision. and this shows that a country is measured and, uh, interaction is measured not by the volume of trade, of course, the united states is larger, but first of all, uh, by confidence measures, and it turned out that today russia and china stand in many positions. e on one side and in this, just friendship is not in slogans. it lies in the fact that we now share common problems and, uh, this is what seriously unites us now. and here is

the statement. it was specific. uh, sidepin said, uh, i'm just quoting the fate of all mankind depends on whether, uh , beijing and washington manage to coexist correctly , here is the correct coexistence in the understanding of m-th chinese, this is what, and china has repeatedly said what it is uh for china it is the possibility of maintaining political contradictions of ideological contradictions, but e interaction area of ​​trade in the field of critical medicine technologies. that is , in what provides, uh, normal human life and stability, uh, trade and international relations. that is, china does not deny the possibility of contradiction. unlike the fact that china wants to be friends with everyone and doesn’t smile all the time, china, uh, argues on many issues, including, by the way, we also have disputes with russia, but the main point, which is strange, should not torpedo each other . in fact, china seems to me

for the first time now, they are starting to very strongly question that this is not a friction between the us and china. it is an economic political issue. perhaps even the geostrategic survival of all mankind. and the united states must still understand that their responsibility is not to push countries against each other, but to solve, er, truly global problems. well, it has already been repeatedly paid attention to that there the paradox of the modern world is when the countries of the west, in general, if we take the collective west and analyze his behavior, it becomes clear that some very vague and very incomprehensible political moments are put at the forefront, while economic pragmatism, which, by the way, has been calling for very many years, and russian president vladimir putin is even left there not to the background, but to some third or even fourth. here the united states, of course, loses quite a lot on this strange one of its own. collar to your largest

uh economic partner, and here, but as they indicate. uh, just uh, what do they say in china e about hmm about this confrontation. they also want to cooperate there. there, too, for sure. there is such an american lobby that is probably putting pressure on the chinese leadership. here is the paradox that there is no american lobby in china. and unlike what is sometimes said to china that there are some supporters of western or pro-western positions , there are no such supporters of the nationalist position, but there are different ones. uh, approaches, that is, different intensiv- that is, approaches, the main task is that china is really in largely depends on us trade on the interaction of the us on the bus and technology, and to tear the us china does not want and is not going to, and most sober-minded and, let's say , cynical-minded chinese experts. they say that wait, we're not done yet, we 've got it, we must continue.

it's a hell of a collaboration, moreover an american business that as they say lives in china that came to china back in the nineties and there are hundreds of american companies that work everywhere from biotechnology to uh, microchips and uh, retail. they are so just also not interested in, uh, china , uh, so that the united states breaks off relations with china, so here uh, it rather relies on normal pragmatics and pay attention to one more thing, if earlier it was the united states that called for free trade to open the borders of democracy in exchange of views today, in a striking way. they switched places . the us is blockading china and china is calling for freedom, trade, and exchanges. here is how the geographic situation is changing. yes, where they say, and liberalization and whom? actually saying accuse there periodically. yes, in violation of some rights there, but in the trampling of some kind of freedom there, and so on and so forth , everything has changed. in some places, alexei

alexandrovich also refers to taiwan, of course, many people call it something like a powder keg, probably an atomic charge for all mankind. and how far hmm now the parties have moved away from the potential emergence of this conflict, but the americans still and here is one and also quite tough not just hinted, but downright stated that there is no need to put pressure on us in this question is. uh, the policy of one china in principle of one china is the absolutely transparent position of official beijing on this issue. well, apparently. uh, blinkin made the mildest statement he could, uh and that is why they allowed him to meet with a moron that the united states continues to continue to adhere to the policy of a united china, that is, taiwan in this case is considered as the territory of, uh, china, but at the same time we didn't hear. the idea that the united states will no longer supply weapons. on

taiwan will not send there, the delegation, as an independent state, that is, apparently from the red line. if they moved away, then they stopped moving towards the crisis. but uh, there will be more visits from the minister of commerce to the united states in china, the minister of economics and the minister of finance, i beg your pardon. and now, perhaps by the end of the year, we will understand the future contours of relations, but , of course, they do not come to say that there has been at least some kind of normalization. ah. yes and now, even if you try e here to fantasize, for example, when there in any situation, the united states will provoke provoke. still, this conflict, again there some kind of their own battleship will be blown up, they will blame the chinese side for this. well, we know, yes, such precedents were there before the start of the vietnam war, and suddenly, probably, we are unlikely to hear. yes, that's the call of the united states let's stop buying. the chinese will close it from all economic relations and

so on and so forth. well, naturally, in fact, they are quietly trying to call for this, but after all, us confidence in this china does not have a case, because china was. in my opinion. i was simply discouraged at first by trump, then by biden's attack on china because, in general, nothing foreshadowed. trouble. after all, china initially thought that this was just an economic issue, but it turned out that this is a matter of china's civilizational survival , again. let us turn to the words and, unlike the united states, russia has never threatened there in the last 40 years. nothing to china, by the way, and like china did not threaten russia, therefore the level of interaction between countries measured, yes, in this case, not by the volume of trade, but by the volume of mutual understanding, which, of course, is much higher in the case between russia and china. and if alexander still, of course, here, probably, the last question of us will be about security guarantees , which kiev simply requires from official beijing. in china, we heard such direct calls

for this, but, uh, i get the impression that no one understands what kind of security guarantees does kiev want to get from beijing and, uh, what does he mean by this is understood in beijing. this is what i may not understand in some wiser way, of course people are sitting. uh, at least we didn't hear. uh, how uh what formulates these security measures, that is, roughly speaking, what you want and actually. unfortunately, this is all a figure of speech in order to distance oneself from real negotiations. beijing cannot give equal security guarantees, nor can any other party give. in this case, security guarantees, security guarantees - this is a direct agreement between kiev and moscow, this settlement of all positions. this is the only thing that could possibly be. but in principle, when one party calls on a third party to give security guarantees. it's just forgive me the loss of sovereignty in the decisions of this country. and to alexey

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