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[000:00:00;00] there are no ways to obtain a human embryo, just as there is no other way at all, the lord did not create a person as a result of manipulations with the non-sex cells of the same person, and therefore mm. it is clear that these experiments will continue until they lead to positive and negative results. this will be justified by the desire to help a person, but we will naturally face the fact that, firstly, these experiments are conducted without a clear and precise plan, ignoring ethical concerns, and the most essential along with this disregard, and you refuse. accept god's plan such plans will surely be destroyed. and if
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you are just such a neat schoolboy who says, but something is wrong here, of course, you don’t have a history of observations. you want to talk about helping people with genetic experiments, but about the fact that it works, that it really helps. they destroy some important things. you will be able to speak after 20-30-40 years of clinical observation. as they are actively advertising now. as a breakthrough, the method of having a child from three parents, where mitochondrial dna is also used from a healthy donor. this is only 0.2%, there is dna, we talked about it in one of the programs, but it is not clear. here's a distant perspective. what will be the results of such an intervention? how do you personally feel about freezing a woman to have cells, but, to be honest, having crossed myself like this, i
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will say that i relate to this. as a manifestation of the fear of death, which, in principle, in the soul of a person should overcome by a person, after all, not an animal desire to copy oneself at any cost, such a cursed aspiration, it seems strange to me, but here, well, about the same as it seems, a strange desire of a person to multiply, for any reason, still give birth to a child. in my view, it is to do this in marriage with a loved one, but i see civilizational phenomena here. why do people take selfies all the time? why do they keep filming themselves in uh, coffee shops drinking some worthless coffee, why do they do that? they museumify themselves, they want everything time to scream. we are alive and we are alive, but life
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is not. the absolute intrinsic value of life for the sake of something, life in some ideal has value, otherwise you will talk about every smallest fact of your life, thereby confirming. that you didn’t do anything, that you are just a person of these small selfies einstein did not take a selfie about him and they say and will say so. you have to be a person, uh, some kind of aspiration. and this desire to freeze yourself in case you can then more effectively and reproduce qualitatively. tears off the biological person. and so it does not seem that a spiritual person has something very animal in this. well, you say, this is a sign of the civilizational development of the process. but it's good in this case, i think it's bad. but we are still our cities
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of millions of people, our cultures. although we are many conference countries, we gravitate toward the western european tradition. now later they get married later they give birth and so on women make a career women earn for their future were responsible for birth child. and i do not see that it was a more responsible attitude towards the child. this desire is desire. excuse me when you see forty-year-olds already, men and women starting to sit in shorts with a cheerful print. this is a responsible attitude or sneakers worn for a formal meeting. it's a simple desire to be. at my price of being younger, this complete inability to appreciate mature age and old age is a phenomenon well known to science under the name of infantilism. we will not have children now. we will treat this more responsibly, and then when we we will come to an age when we will not have children. just in case, we
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will throw the egg cell into nitrogen there. so this is the unwillingness to take responsibility, and if something doesn’t work out, it’s sitting there, a scream. well, science hasn’t gone yet, we continue to make a career in the soviet era, young families were allocated apartments now, uh, all their lives. you will go into mortgages, pay people to live, the whole world people think the whole world lives, but it still seems to me that people, if they took an apartment of 27 m² in a mortgage, it will be difficult for them, but increase your family. e for a child, or even more so for two children in the soviet union , people in communal apartments for nine families lived 18 meters and nothing. and the children of these parents went into space, and the children of these parents provided all the achievements that allow the current brothers to flow. and how do you feel about the fact that, uh, let's say, but married couples who have problems, yes , conceiving children, and in the process of ivf and in the process
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of genetic analysis. ah, embryos. you can cut off the risk of what will develop, there potential, uh, fading pregnancy and so on. and that the child will not have congenital diseases. this is not a part of the civilizational process or a person intervenes here, but in divine, natural selection, when i spoke about the civilizational process. of course, i did not mean that all the processes taking place in civilization. one can characterize how positive it was in our country , as it was customary to say before all civilized peoples. which ones? sorry, and what are not civilized and when i talk about the civilizational process, i spoke about processes taking place in society, some of which are undoubtedly negative, if i were not a priest , what would i say to those people who, although they want
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to do their own genetic screening before any pregnancies, who want to understand if they have any dormant diseases? well, for example, it is known that diabetes mellitus with deafness is transmitted only through the maternal line can be detected by a genetic method, and some diseases can be detected before any pregnancy before e, before the appearance of the embryo, as this refers to the desire to explore your body. i think, well, if i weren't a priest, i would say that's how you feel about it, approximately. just like the desire to find out the sex of the child by ultrasound, many do not want to. uh, you know the doctor's answers the doctor asks you want to know who you have there someone says? yes, we want someone says, no, we don't want this is the position of people. here i was not a priest for you,
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if i were a priest, i would say, huh? try to rely. to the will of god and at the same time resort to those methods studies that do not contradict the teachings of the church, that is, the rejection of embryos during ivf is an absolutely unacceptable phenomenon and this is what calls into question the entire value of the method, and genetic studies that do not affect the embryo, do not fix changes in it, that is, genetic manipulation is a subject for discussion, but each person makes a decision for himself, what exactly will he do? he decides whether he is part of the church community, and then the rules of the church apply to him or not, and then he dismissed to act solely in accordance
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with their views. well, you understand, here the conversation with you is interesting, especially because you are the secretary. uh, precisely the commissions on bioethics of the russian orthodox church. a, but if you treat traditionally all these phenomena such as eco and so on. and it turns out that the church will be against everything, but this commission was created for some purpose. so, if we, for example, are talking about the latest achievements in medicine, which of them do you welcome. you see, and the achievements of medicine. you can only name those of them that are not just produced by a completely discovered or developed method, but for a long time have proven the stability and clinical viability
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of such methods a lot. listen if i tell you about the invention of penicillin. you said that this is the century before last, nothing like that. this is our 20th century, well, our 20th century, these are ultrasound methods, there are sound diagnostics, because medical methods are not necessarily methods of treatment. these are also diagnostic methods of genome sequencing. this is a colossal discovery, a classy discovery. these are generally the last third, and of the 20th century, when these experiments began, when now we know the genetic sequence, uh , human dna is a grand discovery, yes, of course, the discovery of molecular engineering is very, very many, the only question is how prudently they are used and whether there is a desire to look beyond the edge that
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is forbidden here is a scientist, let's say i 'm thinking about one particular specialist. here the scientist makes serious discoveries. but in another area, for example, he says, and i i consider it perfectly possible to use e for research on the tissues of the human embryo. this is a cannibalistic practice, as such, a cannibalistic practice, as such , it leads to some kind of advancement of the scientific plan, perhaps it does. here the question is about the relationship between purpose and methods. is it possible not permissible methods in achieving good goals? well, for me, as a christian, as a priest. uh, the answer is no, unacceptable under any circumstances , science will still make a breakthrough in one way or another, the development of knowledge occurs
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human. well, as soon as you embark on the path of either moral compromise, or supposedly moral indifference. i live in the ivory tower. these are all your conversations. if i ’m not at your place save people, then you won’t save people and you’ll destroy your soul. but it turns out that the church offers let's say infertile couples one way to solve this issue of children to adopt the church does not offer couples anything, in general the church offers church members to do this or not to do another. this does not apply. for everyone the rest of us are reproached all the time, using abbreviations. the roc russian orthodox church invites everyone to adopt children, period. no, we can give recommendations to the society, and prescriptions of one degree or another of obligation only by a member of the church, when we
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talk about e, here are the social concepts of the russian church adopted in 2000. he speaks about the moral flaws of the eco procedure, if these flaws are overcome, then why not reflect on the acceptability of this method, and someone will say. generally unacceptable because fertilization can only take place in the body of a woman women who are watching our program, it's just that their female age will end before the church and finish the discussion about whether it is possible or not. yes, that's right. doctors say, firstly, about the need to treat infertility, a very large percentage of the inability to get pregnant is often associated with elementary problems that are, and on the surface, which they simply did not pay attention to. so the first is the treatment of infertility, the second is the adoption of children. for some reason you
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not named, the third method a. conscious acceptance of one’s own impossibility to have children, i propose, uh, to ask the question whether we are ready to accept the plan of god, which is in fact, determining for a person’s life, why this is not a question of an internally deep person through the experience of suffering, and not trauma and its working through the experience of suffering is able to come to a friend of any plan of god about himself. this, of course, is no longer relevant to the biwei. ethics. however. i repeat the church is studying, and all are modern, but scientific research in the composition of our commission there are world-famous scientists. right now, we recently had a meeting of the synodal commission on biology, a report was just being made, and one of the outstanding
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domestic experts on the challenges of genetic experiments, we just want to be responsible, so that when we say, and not say, then you know, we made a mistake, but we should read how, in continuation of the topic of ethics and children, the summer passed, the us supreme court overturned the 1973 ruling. uh, well, the official department is called harsh against wade on it, and the federal government guarantees the rights that relate to abortion, in general, the topic of abortion. she split the american society, and hmm, and on the eve of the presidential election for 24 years between the republicans, a and the democrats. this is one of the important cards played. that's why do you think our country for m-m ban. uh,
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abortion is advocated, well , only the russian orthodox church officially advocates for removing, say, abortion from the chi system. yes, but politicians are silent on this topic. well, what do you say officially, it can be interpreted this way as if the russian orthodox church is republicans or democrats. we are, after all , much larger than the republicans- democrats. and i think that we have historical significance for our country. we have much more. in addition to the russian orthodox church. of course there are quite a few social movements that also oppose abortion there. uh, a lot of doctors, including medical associations. so it is, of course, the russian orthodox church. it's not alone here, but here's the reason political leaders like rule. many political leaders tend to be indifferent to the topic of abortion fan is very simple and it stems from our
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recent. the soviet experience is one of the certainly disgusting. uh hell, uh the soviet system, this is an instant transition from sexual promiscuity. e, which was cultivated in the twenties, the revolutionary years. every komsomol member must meet the wishes of the komsomol members, boiled sin, and whatever else leads to the momentary bigotry of the post-war period. when it was impossible to talk about it, when in there is no sex in the soviet union, yes, when is the abortion? it was perceived as a method of contraception , simply put, well, you're going to have an abortion, what's wrong with that? uh, when uh words like i don't know, menstruation made mom
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blush in front of her girls or girls confusingly explain what happened to them to their mom mom, there's also yelling at you. i mean, that's wild hypocrisy. this, in general, is already on the verge of a perversion of perversions. uh, led to the fact that abortion part of the norm of abortion or miscarriage organization, well, bad for you. let's put your feet in boiling water and that's it. it won't be there, you won't get pregnant. it's just monstrous hairs stand on end, and since the fence. they will not follow, that is, abortion is not perceived as something subject to public denial of abortion, which is a common thing. i don’t know how to go to work, go home to bring a part of it, drink it away in a social canvas in daily life. why is it so easy to criticize? right now, the followers of the commissars criticize the church so easily, because it is safe to criticize. you won't get anything for it. you have nothing for it
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there will be no abortion. well, well, the usual story everything goes on, we criticize the church, we continue abortions for any reason - this is not extravagant, and so that and our country occupies one of the first places in europe in terms of the number of abortions, thank god, the number is decreasing, but the figures are still horrific , this hypocrisy of the sexual hypocrisy of the soviet second half of the 20th century. eh, while the plus was thrown here. a lot of, uh, incomplete families, marriages are very soon destroyed. i can't help but ask you about the cartoon that made a lot of noise, elemental, it's called pixar's disney cartoon, what do you think? you saw him. i have seen. you look, so, but the essence of the noise around this cartoon is that there is one of the characters and named lake ripple this is the first non-binary
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cartoon character. a and. well, the cartoon, as i understand it, prophesied the light. uh, the future and big fees, but this did not happen about katya , he absolutely failed. this uh phenomenon, it seems to me, has uh, two reasons, one is cultural the other is purely economic cultural, can be described it's very easy, you guys got everyone. because after all, those who are those who are pushing this miserable product are not enough for them. just in a personal capacity to enjoy some extraordinary e forms, so to speak, of personal life. they want these forms to be approved and accepted as the norm. and just here we are people of boring orientation would be
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a minority. and then all the delights of such a democratic, and pressure on us would be carried out. this is, uh, cultural under the basis and by and large the movement has already been showed us that it would be just blaim - this movement was associated with racial themes. and yes. it is with the sexes that it has shown you what you will be when you kneel for any reason and apologize for the sins that you did not commit. if we take as a basis, just here the disney film studio you can, of course, if this has not already been done, shoot snow white, which is played by e or who is depicted by e as a lesbian black woman while uh with some kind of exoskeleton and so on, but i turn to
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the economic plot of you will remember everything like the snow white of the forties, which is a classic that everyone remembers and knows and to which normal parents want to turn their views, because no one will teach their children in the haitian snow white, uh, no one will do sex behind the skeleton, and the economy also important things are two, as it seems to me, parallel processes of pumping with what you need. well , now we need to get rid of this topic. she too, sooner or later. uh, there will be some other more fashionable themes, and the second. education, reading and culture for people who are within the limits of common sense and i will not say the norm within the limits of common sense is a continuation of the cultural line, successful
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achievements. you had masterpieces in the forties and 50-60-70 eighties-nineties, we will do sequels. we will make jokes, we will make conditional books for those who are within the tradition. and this market outweighs. well, you say and everyone will still take the classic snow white as the starting point for the standard. well, you know now the highest cartoon from the little mermaid is dark-skinned and there is such a video where they show the reactions of these to the casing of little girls when they see cartoons, sheer delight. they see a popular character well, it will be clear that there will be a huge merchandise. naturally products, but released, right? and for them, this is happiness to me, this is a good idea here, well, really an introduction to the world of animation and various characters. uh, diverse in culture , religion, skin color, and so on. well,
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the orientation is now aside. yes, we put it, or maybe there is nothing wrong with that. well hamlet will be black. well, listen, there are philobic images of the mother of god . naturally, they are cultured by him, that is, they are given to the mother of god with similarities with the local phenotype. appearance is close to the women of this place in this very self there is nothing bad prelate for kenti, when among the fishing peoples he preached, he translated the prayer our father is not our daily bread, because they did not have fish bread, our daily bread even on the spot in this is not surprising, but hamlet you can play a black hamlet but you still it must be played within the framework of the tradition where it originated in shakespeare's christian england and cannot be done otherwise. otherwise, you simply break this hamlet out of
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e, the work itself with a hammer and subordinate it to your tasks. when i came to serve, united states, i was very complex about what i thought i didn't understand english well because our temple in new york was on the border of, uh, white new york and harlem. and when i went to the store, and i didn’t understand anything at all, and then i i had to go to harvard, and i calmed down, because when professors and uh, students from prosperous families spoke. i understood everything, and i practically did not study others at harvard, when i returned to the border of harlem, i realized that here. social line social line for those who are not in this mass culture , they do not care what is produced in mass culture, because they will watch, relatively speaking, tarkovsky's solaris, regardless of whether they are americans,
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japanese or new zealanders. they're exactly the same will know well, uh, the history of some kind of lacquer miniature, uh, medieval china , fewer and fewer people will do it, and for mass culture, mass trends, and mass trends. this is a mixture of everything and we all giggle over everything. we will have black skin. and snow white and some white uncle tom e. well, this is nothing more than just an attempt to destroy the only meaning . the meaning of the inner hierarchy and deliberation. a big thank you to alexander's father for this interesting conversation for sure.
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designated objects hit the target of the strike was achieved during the past day the armed forces of ukraine continued unsuccessful attempts of offensive operations in the donetsk red liman and south donetsk direction will get bored in this direction competent and courageous actions, defending units of the southern group. troops successfully repulsed 15 enemy attacks in the areas of settlements, belovolovka, artemovsk pervomayskaya lastochkino, water and cheerful donetsk people's republic during the fighting, the losses of the armed forces of ukraine amounted to more than 665 ukrainian servicemen one tank two infantry fighting vehicles eight vehicles two howitzers, 100 b a also one d20 gun, in addition, in the area of the settlement, the seizure of the donetsk people's republic was destroyed the ammunition depot in the fifty-fourth mechanized brigade of the armed forces of ukraine in the civil direction by units of the group of troops, the center of air strikes, artillery and heavy
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