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[000:00:00;00] in the case of this cloning , there are no other ways to obtain a human embryo, just as there is no other way at all, the lord did not create a person as a result of manipulations with the non-sex cells of the same person, and therefore mm. it is clear that these experiments will continue until such time as they lead to a positive or negative result. this will be justified by the desire to help a person, but we will naturally face the fact that, firstly, these experiments are being conducted without a clear and precise plan with ignoring. ethical concerns, and the most essential along with this disregard, and you
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refuse. accept god's plan such plans will surely be destroyed. and if you are just such a neat schoolboy who says, but something is wrong here, of course, you don’t have a history of observations. you want to talk about helping people with genetic experiments, but about the fact that it works, that it really helps. they destroy some important things. you will be able to speak after 20-30-40 years of clinical observation. as they are actively advertising now. as a breakthrough, the method of having a child from three parents, where mitochondrial dna is also used from a healthy donor. this is only 0.2%, there is dna, we talked about it in one of the programs, but it is not clear. here's a distant perspective. what will be the results of such an intervention? how do you personally feel about freezing a woman
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? as to the manifestation, the fear of death, which, in in principle, in the soul of a person , a person must be overcome, after all , such a pro-creational aspiration is not an animal desire to copy oneself at any cost. it seems strange to me. well, here, well, about the same as it seems, the strange desire of a person to multiply, for any reason, after all, to give birth to a child. in my view, it is to do this in marriage with a loved one, but i see civilizational phenomena here. why do people take selfies all the time? why are they filming themselves in uh cafes all the time drinking some worthless coffee, why are they do? they museumify themselves, they want to
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scream all the time. we are alive and we are alive, but life is not. the absolute intrinsic value of life for the sake of something, life in some ideal has value otherwise, you will talk about every smallest fact of your life, thereby confirming. that you didn’t do anything, that you’re just a person of these small selfies einstein didn’t take a selfie about him and they say and will say so. you have to be a person, uh, some kind of aspiration. and this desire to freeze yourself in case when you can then more efficiently and efficiently reproduce. tears off the biological person. and it seems to me that there is something very animal in this spiritual person. well, you say, this is a sign of the civilizational development of the process. but it's good in this case, i think
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it's bad. but we are still our million-plus cities, our cultures. although we are many confessional countries, we gravitate toward the western european tradition. now later they marry later gives birth and so on a woman makes a career women earn their living the future were responsible for the birth of a child. and i do not see that it was a more responsible attitude towards the child. this desire is the desire to forgive. then you see forty-year-olds already starting to sit men women in shorts with a cheerful print. this is a more responsible attitude. uh, or sneakers worn at a formal meeting. it's a simple desire to be. oh, at the cost of being younger , this complete inability to appreciate mature age and old age is a phenomenon well known to science under the name of infantilism. we will not have children now. we'll take it more seriously when we get to the age where we won't have
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children. just in case, we will throw the egg cell into nitrogen there. so this is not the desire to take responsibility, and it will not work out to sit there with a check. well, science hasn’t gone yet, we continue to make a career in the soviet era, young families were allocated apartments now and all their lives. you will go into mortgages to pay off people live the whole world people think the whole world lives, but still how it seems to me that if people take a mortgage on an apartment of 27 square meters, it will be difficult for them, but to increase their family. e for a child, or even more so for two children. they said people in communal apartments of nine families lived 18 meters and nothing. and the children of these parents went into space and the children of these parents provided all the achievements that allow the current ones to take out a mortgage. and how do you feel about the fact that, uh, let's say, and married couples who have problems, yes
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, conceiving children, and in the process of eco and in the process genetic analyzes, and embryos can cut off the risk that it will develop, there is a potential. uh, fading pregnancy and so on. and that the child will not have congenital diseases. it's not part of the civilizational process or the person who interferes here. e, in. divine, natural selection, when i spoke about the civilizational process. of course, i did not mean that all the processes taking place in civilization. one can characterize how positive it was in our country, as it used to be said before all civilized peoples. this is what sorry and what are not, civilized and when i talk about the civilizational process, i was talking about the processes taking place in society, some of which are undoubtedly negative, if i were not a priest,
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i would tell those people who want to do their own genetic screening before any pregnancies who want to know if they have some dormant uh disease? well, for example, it is known that diabetes mellitus with deafness is transmitted only through the maternal line can be detected genetically, and some diseases it is possible to identify some diseases before any pregnancy before e, before the appearance of the embryo, how to relate to this desire to explore your body. i think, well, if i weren't a priest, i would say treat it like this. just like the desire to find out the sex of the child by ultrasound, many do not want to be. uh know the doctor's answers the doctor asks want to know who you have there someone says? yes, we want someone to say, no, we don't want this is the position of people. here i was not a priest for you,
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if i were a priest, i would say, huh? try to rely. at the will of god and at the same time resort to those research methods that do not contradict the teachings of the church, that is, the rejection of embryos during ivf is absolutely unacceptable; this calls into question the entire value of the method, and genetic studies that do not affect the embryo, do not fix changes in it , that is, genetic manipulation is a subject for discussion, but each person makes a decision for himself, what exactly will he do? he decides whether he is part of a church community and then the church rules on him
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spreads, and then he is fired to act solely in accordance with his view. well, you see, the conversation with you is interesting here, especially because you are precisely the secretary, uh, precisely the commission on bioethics of the russian orthodox church. a, but if you treat traditionally all these phenomena such as eco and so on. and it turns out that the church will be against everything, but this commission was created for some purpose. so, if we, for example, are talking about the latest advances in medicine, which of them. see, achievements medicine. you can name only those of them that are not just produced by a perfect discovery or a method has been developed, but
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for a long time a lot of such methods have proven the stability and clinical viability. listen if i tell you about the invention of penicillin. you will say that this is the century before last, nothing of the kind. this is our 20th century, well, our 20th century. these are, uh, ultrasound methods there for sound diagnostics. see medical methods. not necessarily treatments. these are also diagnostic methods of genome sequencing. this colossal discovery colossal discovery. this is generally the last third of the 20th century, when these experiments began, when we now know the genetic sequence , uh, human dna is a grand discovery, yes, of course, the discovery of molecular engineering is very, very many, the only question is how prudently they are used and
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whether there is a desire to look into beyond the edge that is forbidden here is a scientist, let's say i 'm thinking about one specific specialist. here the scientist makes serious discoveries. but in in another area, for example, he says, and i consider it perfectly possible to use e for research on the tissue of the human embryo. this is cannibalistic practice, as such, cannibalistic practice, as such , it leads to some advances in the scientific plan, and perhaps it brings here the question of the relationship between purpose and methods. is it possible not permissible methods in achieving good goals? well, for me, as a christian, as a priest. eh, the answer is this. no, it is not permissible under any circumstances, science will still make a breakthrough in one way or another.
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way of development of knowledge occur human. but as soon as you embark on the path of either moral compromise, or supposedly moral indifference. i live in the ivory tower. these are all your conversations. it's not me who will save you people, then you won't save people and you will destroy your soul. but it turns out that the church offers let's say infertile couples one way to solve this issue of children to adopt a ferry, in general the church offers church members to do one thing or not to do another. this does not apply. on the rest of us are reproached all the time, using abbreviations. the roc russian orthodox church invites everyone to adopt children, period. no, we can give recommendations to the society, and prescriptions of one
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degree or another of obligation are only a member of the church, when we talk about e, the social concept of the russian church was adopted in 2000. talks about the moral flaws of the eco procedure, if these flaws are overcome, then why not reflect on the acceptability of this method, and someone will say. generally unacceptable because that fertilization can only take place in the body of a woman women who are watching our program, it's just that their female age will end before the church and finish the discussion about whether it is possible or not. yes, that's right. doctors say, firstly, about the need to treat infertility, a very large percentage of the inability to get pregnant is often associated with elementary problems that are, and on the surface, which they simply did not pay attention to. so the first is the treatment of infertility,
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the second is the adoption of children. for some reason you not named, the third method a. conscious acceptance of one’s own impossibility to have children, i propose, uh, to ask ourselves if we are ready to accept the plan of god , which is in fact, determining for a person’s life, why this is not a question of an internally deep person through the experience of suffering, and not trauma and its working through the experience of suffering is able to come to a friend of any plan of god about himself. this, of course, is no longer relevant to ketike. however, i repeat, the church is studying, and all are modern, and research scientific our commission includes
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world-famous scientists. to be honest, relatively recently there was a meeting at the distant commission on biology, a report was just being made, and one of the outstanding domestic specialists on the challenges of genetic experiments, we just want to be responsible, so that when we say, and not say, then you know, we made a mistake, but we should read how, in continuation of the theme of ethics and children, last summer the us supreme court overturned a 1973 ruling. uh, well, the official department called called roll against wade on it, and the federal government guarantees the rights that relate to abortion, in general, the topic of abortion. she split the american society and on the eve of the presidential election for 24 years between the republicans, a and the democrats - this is one of the important cards played. that's why, uh, do you think, in our country for m-m
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ban. uh, abortion is advocated, well , only the russian orthodox church officially advocates for removing, say, abortion from the chi system. yes , but politicians are silent on this topic. well, what do you say officially it can be so to interpret as if the russian orthodox church is republicans or democrats. we are still much larger than the republicans and democrats. and i think that we have historical significance for our country. we have much more. in addition to the russian orthodox church. of course, there are quite a few social movements that also oppose abortion, there are, er, quite a few physicians, including medical associations . so it is, of course, the russian orthodox church. i'm not alone here, but here are the reasons why political leaders. as a rule, many political leaders, as a rule, are indifferent to the topic of abortion, which is very simple, and it
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stems from our recent soviet experience, one of the certainly disgusting. uh, hell, uh soviet, building, is an instant transition from sexual promiscuity. e, which was cultivated in the twenties, the revolutionary years, every komsomol member must meet the desires of the komsomol members, and anything to instant hypocrisy. post-war when? talk about it it was impossible, when there is no sex in the soviet union, yes, when is an abortion? perceived as a method of contraception, simply speaking, well, go ahead and have an abortion, what's wrong with that, and when such words as i don't know,
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menstruation made my mother blush in the presence of her girls or girls confusingly explains what happened to them to her mom mom, there also yelling at you. i mean, that's wild hypocrisy. this, in general, is on the verge of practically perversion of perversions. uh, led to the fact that abortion part of the norm abortion or miscarriage organization, well, bad for you. let's feet in boiling water, and that's it. it won't be there, you won't get pregnant. it's just monstrous hairs stand on end, and since the fence. they will not follow, that is, abortion is not perceived as something subject to public denial of abortion, which is a common thing. i don’t know how to go to work, go home to bring a part of it, drink it away in a social canvas in daily life. why is it so easy to criticize? right now, the followers of the commissars criticize the church so easily, because it is safe to criticize. you won't get anything for it. you have nothing for it
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will not be. abortion. well, well, the usual story everything goes on, we criticize the church, we continue abortion for any reason - this is not extravagant, and so that and our country occupies one of the first places in europe in terms of the number of abortions, thank god, the number is decreasing, but the figures are still horrific , this khanate is the sexual hypocrisy of the soviet second half of the 20th century. eh, while the plus was thrown here. a lot of, uh, incomplete families, marriages are very soon destroyed. i can't help but ask you about the cartoon that made a lot of noise. elemental it's called pixar's disney cartoon, what do you think? you saw him. i looked you looked, so, well, the essence of the noise around this cartoon is that there is one of the characters and named
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ripple lake this is the first non-binary cartoon character. a and. well, the cartoon, as i understand it, prophesied the light. uh, the future and big fees, but this did not happen about katya , he absolutely failed. this uh phenomenon, it seems to me, has uh, two reasons, one is cultural the other is purely economic cultural, can be described it's very easy, you guys got everyone. because uh, after all, those who are those who are pushing this miserable product are not enough for them. just in a personal capacity to enjoy some extraordinary e forms, so to speak, of personal life. they want these forms to be approved and accepted as the norm. and just here we are people of boring
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orientation would be a minority. and then all the charms of such a democratic, but pressure on us. eh, they would. it's uh cultural under the ground and by and large the movement has already shown us what's to come just blaim - this movement was associated with racial themes. and yes. it is with the sexes that it has shown you what you will be when you kneel for any reason and apologize for the sins that you did not commit. if we take as a basis, just here the disney film studio you can, of course, if this has not already been done , shoot snow white, which is played by e or who is depicted by e as a lesbian black woman while
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uh with some kind of exoskeleton and so on, but i turn to the economic plot of you will remember anyway for snow white of the forties, which is a classic that everyone remembers and knows and to which normal parents want to turn their views, because no one will teach their children in haitian snow white, uh, no one will do sex behind the skeleton, and the economy is also important things there are two, as it seems to me, parallel processes of pumping with what is needed. well , now we need to get rid of this topic. she too, sooner or later. uh, there will be some other more fashionable themes, and the second. education reading and culture for people within the limits of common sense, i will not say the norm within the limits of common sense, this is
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a continuation of the cultural line, successful achievements. you had masterpieces in the forties and 50-60-70 eighties-nineties, we will do a sequel. and we'll be doing prequels, we'll be making little books for the conventional ones who are within the tradition. and this market outweighs. well, you say, everyone will be all the same for and the starting point for the standard is to take the classic snow white there. well, you know, now a dark-skinned cartoon with a little mermaid has come out and there is such a video, where they show the reactions of these to the casing of little girls when they see a cartoon of sheer delight. they see a popular character well, it will be clear that there will be a huge merchandise. naturally products, but released, right? for them, this is happiness to me, this is a good idea here, well, really an introduction to the world of animation and various
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characters. uh, diverse in culture , religion, skin color, and so on. well, the orientation is now aside. yes, we put it, or maybe there is nothing wrong with that. well, hamlet will be black. well listen there and philobic images of the mother of god naturally they are cultured by him, that is, they are given to the mother of god with similarities with the local phenotype. appearance is close to the women of this place in this very self there is nothing bad prelate for kenti, when among the fishing peoples he preached, he translated the prayer of our father not our daily bread, because they did not have fish bread, our daily even on the spot in this is not surprising, but hamlet you can play a black hamlet but you still have to play it within the framework of the tradition where it originated in shakespeare's christian england and could not have been otherwise. otherwise, you
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simply break this hamlet out of e, the work itself with a hammer and subordinate it to your tasks. when i came to serve, united states, i was very complex about the fact that, as it seemed to me, i did not understand english well, because our temple in new york was located on the border, er, white mountain and harlem. and when i went to the store and i didn't understand anything at all, and then i had to go to harvard, and i calmed down, because when spoke professionals and uh, students from prosperous families. i understood everything, and i practically did not study others at harvard, when i returned to the border of harlem, i realized that here. social line social line for those who are not in this mass culture , they do not care what is produced in mass culture, because they will
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watch, relatively speaking, tarkovsky's solaris, regardless of whether they are americans, japanese or new zealanders. they will also know well, and the history of some lacquer miniature, uh, medieval china, it will be to do less and less people, and for mass culture, mass trends, but mass trends. this is a mixture of everything and we all giggle over everything. we will have black snow white and some white uncle tom e. well, this is nothing more than just an attempt to destroy the only meaning. the meaning of the inner hierarchy and deliberation. a big thank you to alexander's father for this interesting conversation for sure. come visit
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us again thanks catherine the british the french wanted to do everything they could to prevent a war. my grandfather always considered an alliance with russia as the main condition for more than 20,000 people per day biblo during the great patriotic war. we are at a very dangerous moment in human history, what is happening now in ukraine is the lessons of goebels, the textbook of 2018, the june 22 edition is designated as the beginning of the german-soviet war. well , ukraine has nothing to do with the lessons of the past. otherwise, we will repeat it from history
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and make a decision on the basis. we'll take care of this. it will be the honest
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