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fake messages, allegedly planted mines and, accordingly, they didn’t find any mines there, the situation around which attention was riveted all week, we will discuss the adviser to the general director of the rosenergo concern, and there the state corporation rosatom rinat korcha renat ivanovich, well, not again 25 again we are with you you are already a tv star with us. we've had more on screen before than we're already presenters. and, unfortunately, i have to state, because really beautiful, uh, sleep. ker but i meant that the situation is very difficult. let's start with the current situation. what's going on, the current situation , the current situation, as i've probably already talked about this in everything that concerns the plant itself , in everything that concerns the operation of its main systems of operation and nuclear safety.

eh, that's all right. everything is in normal mode absolutely and there are no deviations from the norms , including the water level, and cooling systems in the cooling system. so uh, hmm kept repeating. eh, several times already. and once again i will repeat. the only threat of nuclear security, as a matter of fact, and the entire zaporozhye nuclear power plant in the city of energodar was and remains the ukrainian regime and those who, in fact, are the scripts. ruet and direct his actions. so this is not a denial. yes, or rather, even a categorical unwillingness to refuse. here are the possibilities for the use of military force. this, of course, is the main threat to nuclear security, we, at

one time, were in trouble with rafael. e about it. in general, as if hot, what is called traces? because, and when he first arrived, and it happened on september 1 last year the night before. uh, the ukrainian regime arranged lokhanali simply in the city itself and foreigners. so, having fired at completely barbaric ones, and then, and in our conversation , for the first time, the phrase was heard that you can never shoot at a nuclear power plant with anything and under any pretexts passed? well, more than six months, about eight months, and rafaelbrus repeated this phrase. well, in my transcription. well, absolutely absolutely. and moreover, the same idea was voiced by us. uh, this is all in the form of principles that were voiced, and to the stands with

high rostrum of the united nations, but all this does not affect the kiev regime, as well as their curators, or rather, the owners renat ivanovich well, your statement that you made, there at the fourth day and so on. well, a little bit cheered everyone up, to put it mildly. eh, i understand that you had good reasons to make such statements and, in fact, the fact that we revealed the intention was such an additional factor that stopped the kiev regime from reckless actions. they allegedly say that someone called , there is a macron, someone else from zelensky on the night of the fourth to the fifth is all, we don’t know for sure, but the fact remains that there is still, apparently, some kind of understanding, once again very carefully, and in the same west, which is still the wind, even according to weather forecasts. it just seemed to be blowing towards russia from the fourth to the fifth, but now it is supposedly blowing towards europe, and

therefore they have suspended all this for now. how about in general? therefore, you can comment on you, how about it, what do you think about it? do you understand what we had to do in this situation to sit and be silent, and then, or later, how to explain what happened, in general, but they constantly i mean, and the west imposes on us such a model of behavior when we, well, not exactly justifying ourselves in a position there is no country, but we constantly explain something, and after the events that took place. and when we do this before, they don’t hear us, which is why we had to. uh, actually, uh. hmm make that statement make it tough. a probably but someone strained. i'm basically simple people, i understand in this regard absolutely. and

for sure, because, but hmm, it’s worse than radiation to come up with. either it is extremely difficult, but uh , believe me, no installations, but no goal, and someone means to plunge into fear. uh or panic we didn't have. no, we predicted. we warned, we warned, but if our warning, ah, had, uh, action and some effect, then we are, well, at least satisfied with that. and believe me, if those sources of information that, in fact, on which we relied, er, while doing and evaluating the situation by making such a statement. e, even for a second, we would have doubts both as part of competence and, most importantly, responsibility. we wouldn't go for it. and

here, but this is the kiev regime, but it didn’t leave us at that time. but yes, according to everything, well, according to all indirect signs, they well, to put it a little, probably not parliamentary, i will say, they rolled back. and here, naturally, they are trying to save face and explain the situation in such a way that we have once again abandoned the terrorist attack against ourselves. let they say whatever. in fact, the main thing for today it was possible to prevent the terrible, it was possible to prevent it. uh, nuclear incident, and uh, but you absolutely correctly noted that the threats today are not the same, uh. hmm, and in this sense. eh, this is again . you see. uh, i've often been asked

questions about the attitude towards those that the united nations is transporting, yes , is this the right principle and attitude towards them. let's say so. how else would it be possible to agree with them. but here the question rests. actually not in principles. these principles are worth nothing, unfortunately, huge without one most important condition until ukraine is forced to refuse. i repeat. here are the possibilities even from planning. i'm not talking about action from military force planning as a tool, but to solve this kind of problems. e. here we e we can not sleep peacefully. well actually , uh, anyway, uh, all the logic, and hmm of what they do uh, the dialogue is, well, hard

to find, because really. but in fact affairs, and everything that they are trying to organize to hit them with no less force, as well as on the countries of europe with regard to europe yes, uh, here. uh, this is fear from fear for the consequences of fear, a completely understandable fear, uh , justified, because if you remember the chernobyl tragedy, then, uh, the consequences of chernobyl of the chernobyl tragedy, including e. well, so, roughly speaking, uh, they crawled through europe too, uh, and many months later. uh, that means that there, that is, here, uh, they found zones of radiation damage, radiation is scary and any conversations here are these rantings about what is there, and

nuclear reactors, and power units. eh, don't hurt them there. we are talking about how, according to some kind of modern technologies, they were made, which means that comparisons were made, which means that with chernobyl focussed, all this, to put it mildly, is either just empty chatter, or profanity or immorality, because uh hmm like that, well, already too was repeatedly agreed upon at the station enough. e, means the placement in the infrastructure of the station is much more vulnerable than nuclear units, a and b of these rooms contain radioactive materials. the so-called fissile materials are something like that, we must understand that e- terrorism against nuclear power plants will not remain without a trace, because the ukrainian authorities

are conducting exercises. today the news was they are recruiting volunteers to train there with weapons. and action during radiation they have been pumping up the last weeks, maybe even months, especially recently this nuclear hysteria, and they drew infection maps, when we will blow ourselves up, of course, their logic is such that for some reason we will blow up our own station. well, their logic is generally bad now. here's one more time. let's make it clear that nuclear terrorism will not remain without consequences. wherever the wind blows on russia, it blows on europe and so on. i understand correctly, everything is absolutely. so alexander is a terrible nation , you understand, that's why it is terrible, but with such a scale, and the consequences and severity of the consequences, as for these performances associated with uh, that means uh. not well , to train, of course, you can, but another thing,

for what purpose, and their purpose, as in this case. so, it consisted in bringing the aggravation of the neurosis. so in bringing people to a state of psychosis, they evolve. and it must be recognized that it evolves. here in the activity of this factory of theirs, alzhi fabrication and falsification, that is, before they had enough, just, uh, all kinds of spewing. uh, i don’t know brad there in these telegram channels of mine, uh, on various media platforms, this nonsense was picked up by european media platforms. all of this was falling apart. now they see, move on. they probably already consider the pressure already. here we see on the screens here are the data. they film it themselves. yes, it is. unfortunately, unfortunately, i would say a more systematic approach, but

villainous, but in its essence, but, but much more systemic. it is clear that they work for uh, themselves. e, so it is clear that they are gnawing, and bitterness is an insult. i don't know there the feeling is overwhelmed that they are not allowed. it is clear there that the name of those who actually accompanies them, uh, pumps them up. agasila, yes, and rinat ivanovich, we have problems with communication. i want you here is the question to ask. we have literally 40 seconds left, you except do not exclude or exclude, uh, a repetition of the possibility of approaching this nuclear provocation before the summit, which will be nato next week. the likelihood of this

has decreased significantly. here's what i'll say is significant, but completely 100% excluded, we can't relax, uh, and count on the fact that uh, all this is, well, as if it has sunk into the past no, and these crazy uh people, and they uh, today decided to put everything on the background, only for the sake of one goal for the sake of the goal causing irreparable damage to the russian federation. thank you very much. i'd like to hope that it's still uh common sense. although it is difficult to look for it there in kiev, but with the help of their western partners, who must understand the consequences that you spoke about, that there is no safe nuclear incident and radiation is a terrible thing. and thank you very much for taking the time, and we talked, let me

remind you, adviser to the general director, concern, rosenergo atom of the state corporation rosatom korche, well, all this week ukrainian the president, meanwhile, visited various friendly countries like this in order to beg for another portion of weapons, and mr. zelensky continued to issue ultimatums to his partner, we are talking about promises. west to accept ukraine into nato meanwhile , the upcoming summit of the north atlantic alliance next week may be the last chance for kiev to get finished. body patronage of the west meanwhile, the west itself has big problems. i mean, first of all, the events in france well, not only this and other topics. grigory karasin, chairman of the committee on international affairs of the federation council , and grigory borisovich, we discussed it today. hello, thank you for taking the time for us. i would very much like

to receive your comments. this week there were many international topics that deserve attention, but first of all, of course, security issues in europe, which are now being actively discussed in terms of what will happen next week. well, you can probably say something like that well, probably the famous nato summit and will it be like this, firstly, from your point of view, from the point of view of what the ukrainian authorities are. well, they just don't do it. what actually impudent ultimatums are not put, but by their western partner in order to enlist their e, security guarantees. how do you see the situation such guarantees will be given? alexander good evening. first of all, i want to say that not all atmosphere uh, hmm international relations are determined at the nato summits, we with all the attention to

what will happen in vilnius, they should forget that this is by no means the last chord or a defining chord in what will happen in europe next. we see that disturbing uh trends are growing events in france there is confirmation. this is a form of crisis. e hmm that is, the most democratic model that has been implemented for so long, minds. uh, europeans, yes, and russians, there the past decade. we see how this does not work, but as far as the upcoming donation is concerned. first of all, i would like to say that there is a massive informational preparation for this event. she even laughs in her own way because usually, after all, they themselves are military-political blocs, they are associated with some kind of mystery somewhere there is understatement. and here everything is just on the air.

uh, so people in kiev, for example , do not hesitate, including the minister of defense, saying that dear friends europeans, dear americans, you will never find a better training ground for, uh, it means testing your new weapons than ukraine, that is, it is proposed to surrender ukraine as range of purely military preparations and the use of new weapons, and so on. it's humiliating for of the people who live in this country, this is, as it were , an irresponsible statement, but apparently now it’s the same thing. so when such an enhanced propaganda machine is launched. there are no more details here. so, in addition, i want to draw attention to the fact that , e, the nato summit is going to lithuania, historical poland lithuania , they approached ukraine and belarus as a kind of junior partners in

political history and for sure, this is an instructive, it will sound at the summit also and immediately after in the comments and polish or tolstoy politicians. already. in fact, it sounds alarming. eh, i'm not really. it's clear. how is this perceived in ukrainian society on us. unfortunately, only some bits of bits are heard, general, not informational glades, moreover, specially formulated and formed, but let's see, fortunately , not not ourselves. we really need to set the international agenda, but the vilnius summit will undoubtedly bring food for study, you know, it won't be long. it's all the twelfth, next week. uh, so we will carefully study and rely on sanity and restraint - this is the only thing that we can offer in this case as an alternative

to madness. uh, it means arms races, it means attempts to intimidate the rest of the world with its military and political greatness, we will count on this, and grigor, ivanovich well, it’s clear that i absolutely agree with you that not with nato nevertheless, nato is now pursuing an extremely aggressive policy. and now they have already said about the arms race, and the desire to provide cassette bombs prohibited by international convention. but is it already uh, beyond good and evil or not yet? how can this be understood? and can we answer that? i think that we will always be able to respond to these menacing armaments of ukraine with the supply of the latest weapons, but at the same time, we probably still should not forget that some remnants of common sense should

remain in western politicians' heads. otherwise , we are heading for a total catastrophe on such a large scale. ah, troubled future. i wouldn't like to believe it. i think that after all, some remnants of sanity in the minds of some politicians. uh, nato states remain to be seen. we will evaluate this harshly, but fairly, and grigory. i also mentioned anapa. why did i remember, because just a few days ago it was said that, well, one of the baltic tigers. ah, so interesting and said that there would be a surprise with their tigers, but they are in quotation marks, of course, it is clear that these are tigers in quotation marks, and uh, this is from the baltic tigers, someone said that that there will be a surprise on this themselves now, and a surprise in the form of the fact that some will

be given, after all, security guarantees to ukraine and or this, in my opinion, no one can give ukraine any new guarantees, because everything, which was given in abundance. eh, it seems to indicate that the west is seriously engaged in ukraine for a long time, its so-called security. in fact , ukraine is also dangerous for those around the strange surrounding world, and apparently they intend to do this for a long time, but i repeat once again that we are still looking forward to the rest. thoughts and if these remnants will work, then there are still some chances to be able to negotiate, to be able to, uh, discuss something to meet. as you know, we are ready for this, but the rattling of weapons, we are our borders. we always evaluate unambiguously negatively.

it should be. it's clear. and one more topic , well, or rather, this is a continuation of the same topic - this is certainly the main question after that , and whether it can be such a turning point when ukraine realizes that nato does not shine and, accordingly, some conclusions will be drawn. the current regime in kiev by definition does not want to understand anything, stubbornly, solving its own tasks, which primarily come down to obtaining the maximum possible modern weapons of colossal cash receipts and information support. here from these three, as you put it tigers or leopards is the whole concept of the current kiev regime. moreover,

zelensky himself tirelessly talks about this, all his henchmen and the government, and so on. we don't have other voices from kyiv we hear. although i am convinced that there is a misunderstanding of the future within the ukrainian society. eh, such lines and certainly questions arise even in the minds of those people who carry out this informational blockade of their own society. grigory borisovich i would still like to return to the topic of the week, these are the riots in paris well, in france they seem to have subsided a little now, but nevertheless, it’s clear that this seems to be the internal affairs of france what does danik care about us, but it’s clear that destabilization of europe in the current conditions on the one hand, nothing good is threatening us either. it's understandable we've always conceded for the order for uh, the absence of these car burning actions. well, then there are riots that lead rather to mass.

but this is what mass protests lead to, and yet from the other side. well, it's good for us. let them there, the more mess, the better. it would seem that. here's what's best for us. let there be order. or let it be as it will be alexander e, i am forced to make a statement about the fact that according to at least two or three generations of our people brought up in tradition. stability and we always welcome, remember, it means that the thesis is childish. i remember peace , stability and so on in my childhood, and we remain in these positions. when an event like the french one occurs, we understand that a lot of problems have accumulated in french society. uh, the society has become multinational multi-confessional and any careless actions of the authorities or individual representatives of this government, especially, uh, resulting in

the death of a person. in this case, by the origin of a liar, and they are fraught with very serious consequences. these consequences were not long in coming. we saw how the whole of france, not only france, was thrown into neighboring countries, was on fire. we don't want. e people of europe of evil, we believe that there it is all immediately occupy and take appropriate measures to improve relations in society, whether the macron is capable of this or not. this is a question of his future, but such a question arises. and grigory boevich, and if there is such an assumption that these protests are after all, there was some kind of man-made action that calls on the same french, the same french authorities, to make the right decisions from the point of view of certain international forces. and what i mean, i mean this macron's statement that it's a taiwanese problem, not a european problem. well,

that's it. well, not that rapprochement with china, uh , it would probably be wrong to say so, but some kind of vacillation in the french establishment and the macron. they just showed that you don’t have to stagger like this, you need to stagger, that’s the other way. and if such assumptions. it seems to me that french society is beginning to slowly understand that the current president macron is a little lightweight for the long-term solution of the country's problems. his gestures and quick comments. they don't convince anyone. uh, international, uh, sphere, uh, international circles, and i think it is perceived very critically by france itself, so reforms are needed. we need some bold decisions whether the macron is capable of them or not, it's not for me to judge, but everything will start from this, and not only in

france. probably this applies to all of europe. well that is, until such conclusions are drawn, even if we take, uh, the very fact of spontaneous protest, that it does not reach certain critical parameters for the relationship of tension in europe. ah, that is for now. operator early or so i think it's too early to sum up or make some kind of conclusions put in cement, but we must be attentive to this and understand that europe, uh, is uh, as it were, just around the corner it is something that is close to us and many processes from europe can e spread all over the world. especially, that not only europeans live in europe, but also representatives of asia, africa, the middle east, we will closely monitor this. uh, we do not wish harm to anyone, but, but we need to solve problems today, i think this is a clear

and main signal of the events that took place in france well, let's see, we'll see if europe is really nearby, but do the europeans want it or not, and do we want to or not, but we have to, somehow, probably, never change. yes, geography is destiny. thank you very much. all the best, see you soon. well, for now , this interview was on the tapes of news agencies. urgent messages appeared with reference to the white house. ukraine, following the summit, vilnius will not become a member of nato, but the expected news is that the united states is still transferring cluster munitions to ukraine. well, my colleagues will tell you more about this. and i, alexander karevsky, say goodbye to you, in a few minutes the broadcast will continue with the program vesti duty. all the best.

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