perhaps in order to prevent war, my grandfather always considered an alliance with russia as the main condition for more than 20 thousand people per day of biblo during the years of the great patriotic war. we are at a very dangerous moment in human history, what is happening now in ukraine is the lessons of the gebbes textbook 2018, the edition of june 22 is designated as the beginning of the german-soviet war. well, ukraine has nothing to do with the lessons of the past. otherwise we his repeat speculators from history decide on the basis.

hello dear friends on the air fifth we are talking about topical issues, uh, international and domestic politics, and of course today, the eleventh, the nato summit begins its work and everyone is discussing this topic. now it may even be excessive in detail, but on the other hand, there is still a justification for this detailed explanation, and commenting on this topic, but because, and the situation in the world is becoming more and more tense. i mean, of course, the conflict in ukraine, and moreover, our us ambassador, either antonov, said that before this summit in america, uh, hysteria is being whipped up, and. eh, even declared that may e the world is slipping to the most unfavorable outcome in the confrontation. eh,

there is a lot of talk with russia of the state about what is on this self-metal, which can become a very serious milestone. in this escalation , some security guarantees will be announced. dangers for ukraine in order to somehow turn the tide in the field militarily, because obviously, uh , the counter-offensive, so publicized by the ukrainian authorities, is not going according to plan. but we will put it mildly. we will now discuss this topic directly a little later. uh, with uh guys who are on the front lines. in the meantime, we are talking about the political component. well, nato itself is the most important thing for us - this is what the american authorities will do, first of all, and in the direction of providing assistance to ukraine although this is assistance. we already know about cluster bombs and, apparently, it doesn’t have borders or still has it now, but we’ll talk with vladimir dzhabarov, first

deputy chairman, and the committee on international affairs, and the councils of the federation vladimir mikhailovich i welcome you. hello, but still has limits or has no limit because the statement. such that the american authorities received written guarantees that the ukrainian troops would not use these cluster munitions against the civilian population, and allegedly. they will provide some kind of cluster bombs that will only kill the military, but not civilians, in my opinion. this is some kind of nonsense. do you think 0 rubles 0 kopecks. we know perfectly well what a guarantee is worth. enough of the west recall the guarantees of nato's non-expansion and advancement to the east. uh cum a guarantee, let's say to keep the azov people here and turkey until the end of the war, and all the guarantees are very good. i already said it's worth nothing. i think that, uh, the americans, of course, will

now try to justify the fact that they decided to provide ukraine with cluster bombs, damn it, because in general, even american allies are enough. the girl reacted to this, well, what is the acquisition, which has always been ahead of the planet safe with the support of the americans, and there she still doubted whether this should be done. and this is a complete lie regarding the fact that it kills non-civilians, they kill military is complete nonsense. this suggests that americans actually look a little exhausted. uh, the regime has run out of stocks of its facilities trying to use those many stocks. here are those cassettes. uh in the shells that they have. well, this is complete chaos, and i think that, of course, the whole world , the next time will make sure that the americans go to any lengths to leave ukraine in the ranks of the warring countries, so that they continue

to fight with russia at any cost and despite frank rights. well, today, at least the ukrainian offensive of the americans is beneficial for the glory of vyana to continue to fight with each other, so that, uh, as much damage as possible is inflicted in our country of russia, and the fact that a huge number of ukrainians die does not bother at all, that is, the american people do not suffer . well, about the fact that they ran out of shells. yes, here you were absolutely right, and from the outside even their statements there by some analysts and foreign experts that, well , i even some representatives of the american authorities themselves. they say that, well, ran out ran out of conventional bombs. uh, shells and so on. here, and we will supply a lot of cassettes in order to defeat the russians. this is a quote, a and certainly in these conditions. what is being done to us? do we need

to respond to this somehow or not? we do not even successfully reflect these banks. i don’t call them listeners in any other way, to move in contour linkage and liberate the territories that ukraine now occupies . moreover, i think that there is no need to stop the current behavior of ukraine and those security guarantees for who want to offer only leads us to the idea that they want to always do ukraine with the anti-russia project, so that it will always be a boiling point from which they can be used, which could strike at our country, therefore our task is to bring it to the end. this requires a complete task from all over ukraine. as you know, the president put. regarding the creation, or rather the maintenance, they created the same enclave long ago, which will constantly threaten and threaten us, and so on. but,

if we return to the nato summit, they are now talking about that ukraine will receive some, but security guarantees like israel that is, i remind you there is no formal agreement, but between israel and the united states that they should protect each other there, but there is, uh, very close cooperation. this is money, weapons, intelligence, and so on. well, actually. it's already happening. here is the latest data on the fact that american generals were sitting in azovstal - this is already confirmed by the azovites themselves, banned in russia e. here's how to understand it all, if there is some meaning in this caliber of the verbal israeli version different or not? or is it important? here is the israeli version. as for ukraine, this is a chimera, because it will never be implemented. there, completely different tasks were set to preserve the state, israel confrontation with the arab world.

it's one thing. besides, the fact is that the elections of the united states are approaching now. yes, and uh, there is already a biden, his party needs to be presented, at least some results, since there are practically no results on the battlefield, they are now coming up with these security guarantees that the whole world supports ukraine all nato will constantly protect nothing will happen from ukraine , because sooner or later, by the way, the european nato process is already equal, because ukraine has become like a gluttonous one and it's just a country that devours a huge amount of military resources. uh, projectile, ammunition is practically on the surface, there are no results. but all this is not done as a gift. this is given on credit to who will it return europeans are quite pragmatic people, they know how to do something money and i i think that this is the floor on which they now

have to finish off russia, but sooner or later he will now take a steam bath, because russia will not be able to take it on very soon, and russia is starting to fight in a serious way. i say that they already understand this our country in february 2022. and on july 23, things changed seriously, because all the people stood up and are ready to fight for their own, for their own infection. and these are the ideas that our president proclaimed, and vladimir mikhailovich and one more question that he wanted to i would like to discuss this with you, well, it's broken, turkey yes, it can ratify sweden's accession to nato before the end of the next ah. recep taip erdogan gave his word, he took the floor now, it seemed like he couldn’t let go. koran turks, uh, i’m in stockholm square for minutes anyway, that is, u just succumbed to pressure , mr. erdogan was calmer as he

is. this was not the first time something happened with the extradition of azov. this has happened before during the conflict with syria. uh, but still , this partner we're dealing with and have to deal with, because too many of us are now connected in terms of the economy in terms of energy. and the fact is that erdogan is far from a gift, because he is married. yes, this is the largest army after the american e, as part of nato. yes, it is true members of the organization. well, the fact is that the erdogans, but that they have different views on things than the americans, and he will not carry out, uh, commands from your tone. he has his own position. moreover, you know that in exchange for agreeing to join sweden, there will be an undermining, so that it doesn’t matter if he is included in the eu and that would be very good, because turkey’s accession to the eu will essentially deprive hmm of that, uh, authority of the americans, who do not have it,

because erdogan will argue on any issues. i am sure that he will not join the sanctions. he considers money well for his country. and that's just in general. this is what european solidarity can destroy, so i take erdogan's decision calmly. well, he is what he is, uh, the editor does not inflict much on us with his own decisions. well, in general, does not use for it won't bring much of the west either, because the constantly rebellious state activities. yes, he is on the water. mikhailovich, this is your thesis that turkey's potential accession to the eu is possible. this well requires discussion, but, unfortunately, we have run out of time. and ethereal. thank you very much. maybe next time we will discuss this, because you raised a very important issue, and therefore, in principle, we can, that is, theoretically. we have more time. colleagues tell me, but because we have a tough timing. let's still let's talk if you don't mind.

and why expand this thesis, after all, well, there is a big position not to argue in the european union, yes , in the person of hungary, even now bulgaria has begun to speak differently there, but it answers many questions, greece is potential, uh, will be an opponent of american policy. and i think that turkey will definitely gather around itself all the dissatisfied, if the european union is judged, and these sanctions that the european union tamped at the decree of the americans will be more and more difficult to carry out each time, because turkey itself suffered from certain us sanctions and i think that the presence of turkey sucked sasha's economy. although on their crisis. this is precisely the element that allowed the european countries to be pulled away from american influence. some risks losing the eu if turkey joins this organization, america's influence seems to me to fall sharply. well, good. i think that if this happens is another matter, which, of course, is very

long, but very long, but the turks are trying to get in. uh, they have been candidate members of the eu since 1999, if memory serves, but very for a long time and in general, everything went to the fact that, well, they are not really waiting. uh, turkish people turkish economy in the eu well, maybe something will change and indeed this topic is such a very serious one. and yes, vladimir mikhailovich is huge for you. thank you. i think all the best. i think that we would still discuss this topic. but, while we have e, we continue our release and, accordingly, now we will talk about exactly what is happening at the front. sergey fomchenko, we are in touch, i see that, yes, and sergey alexandrovich is glad to welcome you the commander of the volunteer movement is a russian religion, but the situation of the matchmaker is criminal, how is the current situation?

but the situation has been changing in recent days, this is the direction, our troops have been actively moving forward and are advancing today, and therefore i decided to pull up reserves here and start trying to counterattack us in this direction. the first attempt began to take place in the southern part of the southern part of this segment front in the kreslemansky direction. uh, all the attacks were repelled, and we, by that nevertheless, advancing our troops are moving forward, but the direction is melancholy. here is also here advancing the direction of the curve. but you have to understand that of course. the team sees our successes, and therefore pulls up very large reserves from the depths. e of its defense is pulling up infantry artillery, tanks, and in the near future, most likely, we

will observe an offensive in this direction all at once, possibly in several sectors in the northern and southern sectors of this frafa. well, that is, it turns out that you will need to somehow go on the defensive to it is at this stage. as i understand it correctly, you may have to go on the defensive, because after all the forces that the enemy is pulling up are quite large. and we must not allow the front, because the enemy’s important direction can resume those very plans that he had back in the winter to break through our defenses of this direction , access to the k-conglomeration, that’s all severodonetsk frontier coverage of its north, so it’s very important to keep the defense here as well as in other sectors of the front, in order to prevent the success of the enemy. i think with sergey alexandrovich managed to cope with this task well, without giving out military secrets. and

what prompted such an offensive to go over saw the weakness of the enemy. because it is somehow strange, we are armoring everywhere, but here there is no coming. here was the opportunity to attack the enemy. apparently , he transferred his forces to other sectors of the front, where he has global plans for a summer counteroffensive and the likelihood. because of this , it weakened the northern sector , it is difficult to fight simultaneously in all directions, and therefore it became possible to advance forward. there it is already necessary to understand that this is exactly the sector of the front that we lost last year and to return the position lost earlier. it is, as it were, also a matter of principle for the army to return to those territories that have already been liberated by us. this is very important, and therefore here, of course, in any case, there will be, for example, further attempts to move forward to return those territories that were

abandoned at one time. and this is also a very important fact, it must be kept in mind. well, sergei alexandrovich certainly. we don't even talk about it we say that we will all clear up the question of how and when this is already a military tactic strategy. this is understandable, but you correctly noted that this e morale is, as i understand it, your fighters now have a very high one. according to the traditional scheme of our conversation with you, fashionable tanks are all decorated with crosses. you see more of their special ones, or there is a lot of talk about the fact that the ukrainian authorities spare the equipment and do not spare their soldiers. what are you observing on your sector of the front, well, they don’t spare the soldier’s equipment, but you need to understand that the western technique. it is also easily destroyed by our anti-tank artillery, and all these widely regular deliveries of imported tanks and

armored vehicles lead to the fact that they are very much hunting for them to bypass ours, they are just hunting, yes, and tankers and turks and drones. everyone is just hunting western technology shows that there is no miracle of a weapon that is capable of defeating us there, and at least. noticeably smaller at the front. well, perhaps, including the ukrainian military, who are just protecting them, because they are then answered before the west. where did you put our tanks, you promise with our tanks, you will win, therefore, well, anyway , any equipment is destroyed, whether it is produced by american european , it doesn’t matter, well, it’s clear that the main thing is the morale of the soldiers, but it’s clear. he must have a weapon that will destroy the tanks there, he will not jump correctly with a fork on the tank, but nevertheless, and it is clear that nothing is fired by themselves either. uh, sergey aleksandrovich uh, cluster munitions. have you

already faced because the conversations when we deliver the american authorities are saying that it means that they are already somewhere there and already nearby, or whether you will directly encounter them now or not yet. well, to be honest, we have come across an ammunition cluster before, so the statement that the supply will be the supply of western weapons. that is, this ammunition for us is not something amazing and some kind of super weapon. it is, of course, very unpleasant when there is on the other side, like cluster munitions. but as a matter of fact, we have already encountered this more than once. well, nevertheless, and you already understand how you will act. if they start working on you, now with this new miracle weapon, the so-called or you will, for the time being, look at the same thing, masking the shelter of the shelter position of personnel, in general, measures are now there and who understand everything counter -battery combat, and that's it. it is

present. ah. and such an option. you are armed with this kind of ammunition at your site, because we have them, theoretically we can work. they or not? well theoretically we have. well practically. uh-huh well, let's not have the details specified. well, one more topic. uh, from the traditional studio they came to us ah. this is logistics. a very important thing. there are some problems here. there are problems. well, the general has already been announced by everyone. this, of course, is that bitch shells are not always the norm of shells, which is not always enough for conducting and active defense. and all the more so, i would like more offensive, but it’s already just at will,

yes, and the equipment, uh, the new equipment is supplied in sc exists. eh well, too, i would always like everything more than what comes. but as i already said, the last arsenal got better. if everyone themselves, so that it was a year ago, then, of course, it has become. better than all of them, still not enough. something still. many positions are closed. uh, our good civilian comrades, as it were, unitarians, yes, and in general , it’s not enough to fish for fish now by light transport, but everything seems to be, well. there are of course, although of course your delicacy. we know, we understand, we understand that certain services to citizens need to work in in this direction, which is obliged to do this not out of good will, but out of official necessity, yes, and therefore we understood, but nevertheless, another important topic that

is now being actively discussed is mercenaries yes , according to the ministry of defense, they were already provided and so further. and how are you now, do you have a lot of foreign speech? you hear intercepts on radio transitions. in our direction now, it has become much smaller and i assume that, perhaps, they were moved to the direction of the main strikes. uh to the fight south to more southern sectors of the front, zaporozhye because it has become noticeably smaller. well, now it’s fighting out loud, but on the professional quality of these units, which are now against you, and they are the same as the best were worse, because there is a lot of talk about the fact that they are little trained on the one hand, like nato there everything standard. this teaches them for a long time abroad, and on the other hand, the prisoners say that they allegedly give them little to shoot, and so on here. well, it's important to understand the prisoner is being humiliated. they are such of themselves

sheep are being built, or is it true, there is it feel some real change in the course in the nature of the fighting. you know the quality is still noticeably worse, but this is understandable because what you have already said, of course, those shots that were previously well prepared. they have already been knocked out, and the new cadres that are being trained, of course, are being prepared in haste, because it is urgently necessary to close the golden holes, and therefore, of course, the quality of training of both individual fighters and entire subunits has become worse. is not it means that the enemy is not dangerous there, the enemy is still dangerous and it is difficult to fight with him, but the quality of the training is there. well, yes, you don’t need to underestimate the enemy here, but, nevertheless, the trend is a trend, as economists say. but still, i understand that he is in this direction of deteriorating combat quality, and

the ukrainian troops, sergey alexandrovich , thank you very much. take care of yourself, hi e to all the guys who are on the front line, we are all rooting for you, a and we are waiting for you. victory, uh, and. i hope that we will continue to discuss all these questions, and sergey khomchenkov, call sign, family name, my volunteer clothes, the russian legion movement was in touch with us. we discussed the situation on the front line from here, it was the fifth studio. we are following developments. all the best. i thank alexander krirevskiy and his interlocutors. and we will continue russian pranksters. vovan lexus called henry kissinger on behalf of the head of the kiev regime. discussed the conflict in ukraine, the former us secretary of state admitted that it would be difficult to achieve membership of the republic in nato and added that he was against the entry of kiev some european countries are also speaking out in the alliance, and kissinger confirmed that the west is actually fighting against russia than we will

continue . politicians and journalists are still listening, it seems from all over the world, but this time the russian pranksters in ivan and lexus were able to convince an experienced diplomat that he was personally talking with the president of ukraine in general, allegedly zelensky same spoke about the next elections in the us relations between russia and ukraine accession to nato and sabotage on the pipelines. who do you think is behind the nord stream 2 explosion? to be honest, i thought it was you, you thought we were no no, but i didn't blame you for that. i would not say that this is criticism, he still follows world politics, speaks out about the ukrainian conflict and at the same time periodically contradicts himself. when the proposal was first made to include ukraine in nato, he was against and publicly stated this

i thought it would be better to turn ukraine into a bridge between russia and the west. now the former us secretary of state has changed his mind in an interview with mumu zelensky. he talked about the annual meeting of the bilderberg club, which takes part in the european and american leaders and it was very strange that the european countries that fight technically. they assist you in that meeting. they opposed entry. ukraine in nato, they argued that this issue requires careful study, but you you will encounter this in your meetings. so it will be difficult, according to casenger , to secure membership for ukraine. it will be difficult in nato, but whatever it is, he will support it. this decision is another interesting episode in an interview with an american diplomat. he said that in his conversation with the head of the office of the president of ukraine andriy yermak , the issue of distinguishing between a ceasefire and peace negotiations was raised. as

kissinger emphasized that it would be difficult when this ceasefire regime is turned on, then start it again. that is, the western country can already support this moment for me next time. well, everything is heading towards this, in principle, just as far as peace negotiations. as i understand it, very far away, but a ceasefire is more, and more logical. well, not that soon, but possible options, at least in a conversation with the president of ukraine , the former secretary of state even allegedly told joe baid by the end of the interview kisenger did not understand that he was talking in all not zelensky and according to the pranksters. he doesn't even mind coming to ukraine in the following year , by the way, the american diplomat in may turned the pilot of leading ukraine to nato

followers have a video from street cameras in krasnodar being searched for by the murderer of the stalagzhik deputy head of the city department for mobilization work. what is known so far? nato starts at which they will discuss further support for ukraine joining the swedish bloc is there a consensus on other issues called