[000:01:41;00] on the air, fifth studio i am anton podkovenko, we are discussing the nato summit in vilnius and the new deliveries of western weapons that the north atlantic alliance and, in particular, france are planning , and aleksey meshkov, the russian ambassador to

the french republic and the principality of monaco , part-time aleksey yurievich you . greetings. hello so french president emmanuel macron. he promised ukraine long-range missiles and we are talking about ammunition. uh, like the scalp is the french version of the british side of shadow, basically. this jointly developed by both paris and london , the range of these missiles is 250 km. here's something already known about the amount of ammunition that will be delivered to kiev well, in general , here's what they say in france what do they say in paris on this extremely topical topic? well, uh, according to the available leaks, we are talking about fifty missiles. and uh, information is also coming in that might already be a part. uh, if not all, uh, the missiles are in ukraine. as you know, uh, nato, uh, lately, they first do

something, and then they announce it. uh, of course, such a solution is not u impossible to say that it is supported by the entire french society, because everyone understands perfectly. uh, that france is more and more drawn into the war against russia, uh, albeit indirectly, but uh, this uh, does not at all meet the interest of french society. and how would you see the escalation. in general, goes has already appeared for a long time at first. uh, caesar is a long-range. the french then threw the gun, e, into ukraine, their amx light tanks , which really showed their e, complete helplessness on the battlefield. and now these

missiles, by the way, some analysts are wondering if this is not. uh, also uh pressure from uh the french military-industrial complex, uh, who uh, although they don’t want uh, almost a french development. escal was perceived as e. e secondary, er, things from storm shadow with regard to range, the question is, er, quite complex officially exported missiles with a range of 250 km, but the missile itself. e in its land version can fly for 560, uh, kilometers, and sea e, almost one and a half thousands. and after all, alekseevich, uh earlier , uh, paris uh, did not even rule out the supply

of long-range missiles to ukraine out of fear that kiev would use them to strike at the territory of russia, as actually happens with e. british storm shadow yes, they fly on e, in particular. here in lugansk, what happened now? here. why do you think paris changed its point of view, so to speak, and does this mean some kind of fundamentally new approach, if possible. so pour out from their side to the fact that you can supply what you can’t deliver to ukraine well, uh, macron's official statement you heard that there uh it was that abudah uh, in fact uh, along the line, uh, touch, but all this, of course. this is nonsense because

it is ridiculous how many times kiev has given such guarantees to the criminal terrorist regime, and allegedly to nato that they will not use weapons against our territory. and uh, we all saw what happened in the belgorod region. and what types of weapons were used there, so it is, of course, uh the act which uh, the french government did, well, deserves the most severe condemnation. if we talk about the relationship between france and nato, what is the name of the french authorities at the moment? well, now they support, as it were, the potential invitation of ukraine to nato , the macron said about this, even before the start of vilnius themselves and back in the nineteenth year. we remember that he very rarely spoke about the north atlantic alliance itself. now, in particular, he said that nato has completely lost coordination within the alliance

the coordination between the us and the allies called it generally the brain death of nato. now, a completely different rhetoric. a completely different policy, with what do you attribute such a change of course, so to speak? around the same time that macron was talking about nato's brain death , he was speaking at a meeting of french ambassadors talking about a deep government that works against the interests of the french state. but it seems that this deep government did win, because , uh, we traditionally remember, wicket the foundations of the modern french republic, but the situation has really seriously changed and they are at the helm in paris today. ah,

staunch atlantists. that is, uh, that macron's rhetoric, it was like some kind of screen, or something, yes, it turns out , or he spoke without real leverage. well , you know, uh, to say, definitely, uh, i can't do that, but uh, there are so many different factors. you, uh, remember perfectly. what did merkel and alant say about the minsk agreements, which completely excludes the possibility of any kind of trust actions of the frg and uh, france uh, in relation to u russia therefore, in general, we can say that this is a natural continuation of the uh, uh line to undermine relations with us. at least to pay tribute at the initial stage has repeatedly

declared interest in the maintenance of bilateral dialogue, the need to take into account russia's security interests, well, how are you? see it doesn't happen? alekseevich, here, in your opinion, is what france is now saying about the need to determine specific steps for ukraine's accession to nato, and such really sounded. could this have any effect in your opinion? well, hypothetically, there is some progress, but in this regard , there is kiev joining the north atlantic alliance, which , as we know, zelensky has been dreaming about for a long time , or this rhetoric from the side of the macron, this is more a game for the public. i will not reveal a big secret, how did such signals come from paris, we directly asked the officials of e,

persons in france is or is it rhetoric of a change in course. uh, paris on the international arena and, above all, in relation to uh, introductory questions. e ukraine in nato, what are we from all our interlocutors. uh, right, as it is written on a piece of paper, they received an answer that france was back in 2008. yes, yes, i agreed with the need to admit ukraine to nato and there are no changes in the position, but the last few months. e was a serious three in the french position towards the pose. tsii e eastern european countries and above all poland is an obvious fact and it is simply impossible. well deny. on the other hand

, the day before, they themselves, uh, macron blocked opening of nato office in japan what do you think? this step? can it be called dimash hmm towards the north atlantic alliance from the side of paris and hmm can it be this step this move is some kind of continuation at the summit in vilnius ah, but uh, it's completely uh, understandable obvious situations. uh, the discovery of uh, the hypothetical discoveries of representation of uh, over uh in tokyo is perceived anyway in france but i think, uh, it is also perceived in china as a pure anti-chinese action in the french is not ready now. eh, especially in the current crisis in relations with us

and go to deepen e crisis in relations. france has a lot of economic interests with china. uh in this country, so go 100% about uh, the american line they say please in general, if we talk about the summit in vilnius, how could you summarize your impressions at the moment, here, in your opinion, there is a unity of the alliance or maybe an alliance rather split and probably most importantly, how do you think. eh, should we expect any changes. that's in the field of global security. uh, in the context of this summit after that, after these meetings? no , well, of course, a detailed, e, analysis of all the decisions that were made there will be required, and it must be admitted that these

decisions are completely predictable, so, naturally. eh, there will have to do. uh, needed yesterday, uh, said and uh, sergey hiv lavrov and uh, without presidential secretary peskov, that's what concerns. uh, the questions are there. the split and the poorer there is not worth talking about for one simple reason. it's like the old joke. after all, you need to eat official ones. the charter has unofficial countries. here in this, uh, unofficial charter is written. that point one washington is always right point two, if washington is wrong , read point one, so here we are talking about hegemony, and uh, and

vassals, of course, uh, sometimes one of the vassals is given the opportunity to frond a little, including uh, in the interests of their internal political life there. but what is this the structure is completely dependent on washington and no one. eh, it's not allowed. uh, to engage in some kind of position against the official line of washington is not. so you just predicated my question about independence. paris, if at all we can talk about this independence, because , well, we are really talking about the management of washington. what do you think? it really is already so to say. e is so strong and almost directly, this one you see for yourself, it shows. yes, i understand correctly, such an absolutely dominating state. well, uh, probably, indeed, over

the past decades, that is, before coming to power in france, the president of france demonstrated, uh, a certain autonomy. and now, such autonomy, but not france anymore. but europe, uh, tried to talk about president macron. uh, but uh, now uh, i personally don't see, uh, any of the e countries. the european union, which could really express its independent independent point of view. e in dialogue with washington. well, uh, naturally. we, here you are

, in connection, i’m not talking about hungary, which has e certain steps they are taking, but europe is united in full subordination to the united states. therefore, today the main body that decides who to accept there and e in the european union or not to admit anyone to the european union, how to act on the already global arena? it would seem that a narrow regional organization of this now accepts all this. in washington but tell me, please, alexey yuryevich , is it possible to say that the foreign policy of paris ? well, in particular. here is how it manifests itself at the current meeting. alliance in vilnius, in what sense it is also a continuation of domestic politics , here are some changeable, so to speak

, macrons, maybe, well, always when the country is in a difficult, domestic political situation, of course, there is a desire. uh, somehow switch the attention of public opinion to external factors. really. uh, the last few months. uh hmm for france from the domestic political point of view , it was hard and mass demonstrations against the law on pensions of this and uh, the entry of u youth. uh, after uh, killing uh arab uh young a person to the police, uh, that is, uh, of course , uh, it was escalating the internal political situation, therefore, well, yes, one of these

valves for releasing this discontent, uh, could play. uh, the transformation of foreign policy approaches could also play a role, in your opinion, alekseevich here. uh, nato drilled the latin alliance, he is ready to play for a long time, and what is called in the conflict in ukraine, based on what is happening now at the international sites. well, now, uh, the main guest who threw ukraine is the creation of the council. e. u ukraine they couldn't even come up with nato. uh, some new name. they just took it on a roll. uh, russia's nato advice and and, in general , what they promise u ukrainians. they promised us the same thing that it would be a council, where everyone would act nationally. and what,

ukraine will be an equal member? in the very first meeting after the creation of the nato council of russia, we were faced with the fact that it was again such, uh, such a conversation between the bloc with russia or against russia, and uh, at the moment when this council became nato u don’t need it, they threw it out just uh, off the agenda, so expect u nato to go. uh, for ukraine to the end. hmm, i would not recommend it will be necessary to act as he needs, and ukraine is a consumable. and the final question. uh, if you don't mind, what do you think, if the alliance has a plan b in case ukraine actually loses well, unfortunately i

don't have access to classified nato documents uh, so uh, it's hard to say if, uh, they have a plan b but what are they? something, uh, things are probably being worked out. it's possible, because you, uh, don't forget that uh all issues related, uh with strengthening. e eastern flank. nato, they uh, began to be discussed, when u nato so, unfortunately, anton is forced to interrupt you now in the frame from the government house. dear sergey vladimirovich, you headed aeroflot during a very difficult time, a period of unprecedented sanctions , and for more than a year you have been heading our largest airline. it is gratifying to see that today a lot of problems that arose at the beginning have been resolved and passenger traffic is being restored. it was not easy to decide including the registration of ships,

the balanced position that aeroflot has taken has kept the company with the ability to operate flights, both domestically and abroad. we see how aeroflot and other leading carriers are overcoming the difficulties created by the collective west. i would like to ask you to report on the main results. e work and what is happening now in this company, dear college, indeed we are facing unprecedented sanctions pressure. and the main task - the group was, uh, to normalize operations. and the activity in the conditions of sanctions pressure to restore passenger traffic to us is the pleasure of the entire aeroflot group of companies transferred 40 and 70 million passengers. e, in 2022, ensured the transport connectivity of the regions of cities and the availability of transportation by the twenty-third year. we have already approached with a full understanding

of our possible main points of growth and, on the whole, we are showing confident performance in the twenty-third year following the results of five months. we transported as a group 16 million passengers - this is a 23% increase in the previous period, comparable and only at the end of 23 years. we plan to transfer e, 45 and 2/10 million passengers, representing an 11% increase in 22 years. reducing the dependence of russian airlines today on foreign airlines, primarily builders and engineering solutions, is the most important direction, all the necessary decisions have been made for this. you know, we have formed a state order for domestic aircraft until the thirtieth year, and the line has been built, there is a process of import substitution of aggregates of components and systems that were created in cooperation with e, countries with which we are now

we terminated the contract. we were recently in kazan, you know, with the support of the president, we decided to increase the production of tu-200e, 14, a in the amount of 20 aircraft per year and 42 billion. from the fund, the national cost will be sent , plus credit support to rostec, very it is important that the customer aeroflot is the largest customer, of course, all its technical requirements and nuances are connected to the end. with the quality of aircraft production, to bring also the same feedback about which the president tells us, and from passengers, it is the most important feedback comfort service, which aeroflot traditionally provides, should be taken into account in the production of our russian-domestic aircraft. sergey vladimirovich is also important connected with the territory. you know, the president pays great attention to the development of the regional network of routes, in order to increase the accessibility of aviation for people

, we subsidize a number of routes, in particular , we are talking about the so-called flat fares on flights to the far east leningrad as it is now the situation with the consumption of this service and the second. what are the dynamics of domestic russian transportation and the structure, including those carried out for tourism purposes? in terms of increasing the share of regional transportation. eh, we also have positive results. in general , passenger traffic uh, following the results of five months of 2023. the share of regional traffic was 23.3%, which is an increase of 0.5% points compared to the previous period. eh, maybe not such a significant value, but nevertheless we see such a positive dynamic trend. in the direction of increasing regional traffic, flights bypassing moscow, due to which these programs are formed, first of all, aeroflot group continues to develop its hub in krasnoyarsk, its base in sochi,

we now operate flights to 12 cities of the russian federation from mineralnye vody , we operate flights to six cities of the russian federation in last year. we started operating flights from st. petersburg. derived vostok e, this year they continued to operate flights and added another direction from st. petersburg, khabarovsk in addition to this year we signed an agreement with one of the largest tour operators in russia within the framework of which we plan to transfer already this year about 3 million e. , and in terms of our commitment to transportation at flat rates, and the program, e, is still supported by volumes. uh, significant total this year we plan to transfer 1.9 million passengers. from

of which 1.4 million passengers - this is the far east within the framework of the 215th decree at the subsidization of air transportation, in fact, the results show 800.000 bookings. e, and the amount of the subsidy is 7.4 billion rubles. this figure is also very significant in terms of state support for the transportation of residents in the far east now e paradepok, so many people go on a trip , it is very important that all elements related to serving people in the summer schedule are met by aeroflot and requests to keep e, the situation is under personal control, digital transformation, i can say that aeroflot is moving seriously. in this direction, convenient services. it's enough. just in terms of purchasing tickets to identify the possibility of payment. how things are going in general with aeroflot’s digital transformation program of digital transformation. at aeroflot, we have

to replace a very large-scale system by the end of the twenty-fourth year, 131 systems in total for the russian group of companies , for aeroflot directly, these are 80 projects as part of the digital strategy transformation this year launched. there are already 59. they are at different stages of implementation. because of the results, i would like to highlight a number of such key projects, firstly, uh, about what, of course you know about hellovich, we switched to the domestic reservation system. the entire aeroflot leonardo group is the next direction that we have begun to implement. eh, last year. this is an exchange. uh, universal messages. uh, there is a sieve company provider. and it was assumed that it could leave the russian market. and this is really happening. we started such work in advance, because they understood what was needed like an air truck, like all my airlines. we have implemented this decision now, except for work. all other airlines are also coming to the russian decision, which we have made

within the country, the next important and significant direction is the import substitution of the aircraft maintenance maintenance program . uh, already selected by contractors. i would say that even the project is not only sectoral, but intersectoral, because an aircraft manufacturer is also involved in it, as a consumer and airlines and companies that carry out maintenance of ships directly, another important direction is the transition to the domestic enterprise management system , a contractor has also been selected. we have to uh extremely intensive large-scale work over the next two years on the transition to the domestic enterprise management system, in order to switch to domestic software, we need to work actively in all areas. i know that aeroflot takes part in the central committee at the industrial competence center, which are engaged in import substitution support for critical and other software programs.

keep these questions under special control as well. these were shots with oncoming moves with the head of the fleet company. uh, sergei aleksandrovsky is present. we see a row everywhere here. half a life in the industry 20 years, how do you generally get knowledge to study all your life take a picture, please, an imported part is scanned, and we will do the work already according to our drawings. there is constant modernization going on here. super decision i'll tell you honestly in the twenty-fifth year. we will bypass no import at all and the role of the sivur team. in this decisive thought, realized about this time already. yes, let's go, no one expected such behavior of the former

partners, but the drama did not happen. we continue to review the news, the russian military stopped attempts to carry out military reconnaissance in force in the south donetsk direction , representatives of the vostok group reported this, adding that ukrainian troops continue to attack russian opposition in the south donetsk direction with advanced units of the vostok group of forces with the support artillery, an attempt by the enemy to reconnaissance in battle in the ravnopole area, the accumulation of manpower and equipment of the armed forces was hit by howitzer artillery fire, the m113 armored personnel carrier was destroyed , east of the oktyabr state farm and the armored combat vehicle vostochnaya makarov during the counter-battery fight, a mortar crew was destroyed in the area of ​​\u200b\u200bthe northeast and nikolsky and two towed howitzers in the areas of settlements new mosquitoes and