[000:00:00;00] i faced pressure to force us to relinquish our sovereignty from our right to choose our own historical path through restrictions on access to technology , our opponents expected us to give up, but so and uh. well , this will not happen, as we often say. in such cases , russia will only go forward, and in its own way, without isolating itself from anyone at the same time to an external challenge. we respond only by strengthening the quality and efficiency of work by spreading freedom well, this happened in 2014. i have already spoken about this, yes, and everyone is well aware of this, when the first wave of external sanctions remained a symbol for the rapid development of some of our areas, including

agriculture. today, similar positive processes are gaining in industry and in the technological sphere, while we understand that in the current conditions, the main thing for defining development is to focus our efforts on priority tasks, firstly, on those areas where we already have global-level technologies and products, for example, in nuclear energy in artificial intelligence and in many other areas, and secondly, in those areas that are critical for the development of the country, and where we must have our own competencies. at the same time , we must have not just scientific developments and basic solutions, but the entire technological and production chain. own equipment, elemental base software and, of course, people personnel, of course, solving the problems of technological sovereignty. we are not

going to close, like i said myself. on the contrary, they intend to create and expand equal mutually beneficial technological scientific alliances with other states, i will note that within the framework of the russian chairmanship of brix next year. we will discuss with our partners such specific projects in a whole range of significant areas, including the transfer of computing technologies , data storage and transmission. eh, i'll dwell on this topic in more detail. if allowed. uh, especially since this particular question is in the center attention of the forum of future technologies this year, our principal task is to transfer the entire economy to the social sphere. government authorities the work of authorities on the qualitative principles of operation to introduce management on new

data based on big data effect. it will be in the full sense of the complex multiplicative, this is a multiple increase in the quality of management and labor productivity jobs with advanced competencies and high wages. the availability of services is a fundamentally different opportunity for our citizens for a person. thus, digital platforms will allow the development of smart cities and unmanned systems , the use of digital twins of technical systems and their production processes, and the widespread use of precision farming. e. in agriculture, reach a new level of logistics and energy in the development of telemedicine and online education , the provision of public services and financial settlements in general. platform solutions will open the way to full-scale automation of not only

technological processes, but also the relationship between market participants for such changes, everything related to these big data takes on critical importance. it is essentially a system -forming infrastructure for our further development for the future of our economy as a whole, and it is obvious that dependence in this area means serious threats to national security, weakening, and even and loss of sovereignty. we must certainly think about this and look into the future, we will say that this is exactly what we were striving for. some countries, when a loved one tried to literally hoist our country to foreign technology platform standards, and it must be admitted not without success. it is clear that interdependence. it’s not becheny’s understanding that this is interdependence, this is an objective

thing, but still, between common general words about openness and, uh, your own ruble of your own shirt, which is closer to the body, there is a difference and we often practice it this difference. we see many critical technologies. in this domain. we bought. what is called in someone else's store a kind of supermarket prepared by someone made decisions, and at some point , the door was simply tightly closed in front of us and the search was hung closed. we have learned lessons have drawn the necessary conclusions by the government, public and private companies have already done a lot to change the situation, but it is necessary to be sure. we need to go further to solve more complex system tasks and plan this work for a long time. i propose to prepare a new national project for

the period up to 2030 within a year, namely, a project on the formation of a data economy. i will emphasize the speech not only about consolidating existing tools to support the development of the digital economy of artificial intelligence and high-tech projects, including roadmaps for the development of quantum technologies, which you are talking about today and which state-owned companies are trying to put into practice today. well , to put developments in this area into practice, it is necessary to build a holistic mechanism for the creation and widespread implementation of advanced developments. this actually applies to all technologies and areas of life. undoubtedly. we talk a lot about this , we are gradually moving towards solving these issues, but we need to speed up this work as much as possible, including in such a direction as the formation of a data economy, which i have already mentioned. everything is important here, this is

research. training of personnel at all levels of education formation of conditions for you. and testing of pilot samples of products demand for domestic products and services in the field of computing and working with data, as well as flexible regulation and production support. wherein it is fundamentally important to systematically look at the next technological order to create industries and markets of the future, it is in this logic that our project for the development of unmanned aerial systems is built, as we agreed with our colleagues. uh, i ask you to approve it before september 1, 23, and also take this priority into account when forming the budget for 2024 and the planning period until 2026. dear colleagues, the new national

data economy project should touch on all stages and levels work. the first is data collection, i mean, including highly sensitive e, sensors, including quantum sensors , which radically increase the accuracy of object positioning , allow you to detect diseases at the earliest stages, are used in other advanced areas, for example, in satellite and terrestrial communication systems, the second is data transmission the development of communication systems, not only of the current, but also of subsequent generations, which , according to forecasts, will be able to transmit information in real time, which is critical necessary for the development of robotics systems for unmanned vehicles and automation of the urban environment. third. this is a sovereign infrastructure for computing and storing data within the country, primarily about domestic cloud platforms and

data centers that can effectively support the work of state bodies of enterprises. communication operators, as well as computing power of their own production, including on qualitatively new principles, i mean using computers. that's what we were talking about with colleagues what they showed me using quantum and photon technologies, about which e. we will talk more, the fourth is data security , of course. this aspect we must fully take into account to keep in mind, uh, including, i consider it necessary to continue work on the technologies of quantum communications and quantum and digitization of encryption. excuse me, such technologies ensure the stability of information systems, as cyber attacks using both classical and quantum computers make it possible to create invulnerable to hacking the system, as well as developing secure

quantum communication, by the way, therefore, the direction of russia is among them. leaders, of course, and in this area we are only taking the first steps. now colleagues have also talked about this, but still, these are already tangible tangible results. fifth, these are sovereign national standards and protocols for working with data. such standards are necessary for reliable processing and storage of data, including personal information of citizens for the use of quantum cryptography technology for cyber security protection against attacks the sixth is data processing and analysis algorithms , including artificial intelligence solutions , as well as domestic software, the availability of such national tools guarantees sovereign data significantly reduces dependence on foreign suppliers and increases control over critical

infrastructure and, of course, the necessary so -called code storage domestic platforms and services that are needed for the collaboration of programmers, not only from russia but also from other countries the world stressed the work, in all of the above areas should be aimed at systemic changes in all sectors of the economy , the social sphere of public administration , the quality of life of people throughout our country. address both quantum technologies, which are the basis of e, the main topic of today's discussion. right now, just not at the exhibition in a conversation with uh, representatives of science me. dedicated to this, well, tried to dedicate to it so in more detail, you and i need not only to solve current problems, but also

be sure to look ahead beyond the horizon , try to expand the ability of a person to manage the smallest objects, put the most complex physical processes at the service of progress, the quantum world, is in no hurry to reveal all its secrets. well, domestic researchers are ready to solve the most complex scientific problems and open the way to creating advanced solutions, and this desire is unconditional. now i'll repeat it again. we just talked about it will support. i am asking as part of the national data economy project determine measures to support fundamental research, including an increase in funding. and i mean the scientific search on a wide range of computing technologies, many of which, you know very well, work on the principles of quantum physics and mechanics, are associated with the achievements of both the first and e, the second quantum revolution that is developing in

our eyes. told at the exhibition e, the second revolution which became an incentive, including for the creation of quantum computing technology and quantum computers, however, according to all forecasts, promising computing systems will be exactly hybrid solutions, in which there is also a so-called quantum core and microelectronics technologies that have already become classical , i note that every 10 years the performance of computers increases by about 1,000 times. integrated circuits today already contain tens of billions. e transistors race here goes at exorbitant speeds. so sberbank's new supercomputer. hey christophari. neo is capable of producing around 12.000 trillion operations per second, and the yandex supercomputer, er, chervonenkos, is almost

twice as powerful. well, i know that these are not the first places in the world. but, in principle, the places are already quite noticeable, and well, this can be treated. sincerely. there are development prospects, while the need for computing resources continues to grow and our own sovereign solutions in this area are critical for the development of artificial intelligence systems to create large neural network models. that is why it is so important for us to promote the domestic microelectronic for this purpose, the industry is specifically engaged in the development of serial production for the production of ultra-pure materials and technological means. many people know that we are setting up a new research and technology center in zelenograd and are implementing projects on technological equipment, including with the participation

of partners from belarus. let me remind you in this regard. that it was the high level of cooperation in the soviet era that provided the conditions for training engineering personnel to develop unique technologies for the development of outstanding scientific schools, including in the field of photonics thanks to the strong fundamental behind the case , today the photonic integrated circuit is already a full-fledged working technology. an intersectoral cluster in the field of photonics is developing in moscow, on the basis of which the research centers of the start-up business university work together to create new solutions and launch them in production as well as our platform for experiments with future technologies. to test their practical implementation, it is necessary to create on other ordinary problems. we also need to work in other areas. i know that the government of the capital. here sergei

semyonovich is here in the hall. he and i have also repeatedly discussed this topic, the government of the capital has begun work on the creation of the moscow quantum cluster and would like to ask you, dear sergey semyonovich , to tell us about this in detail today as well. well, if not in detail, then at least in general terms , dear colleagues, i have met more than once with russian scientists and our compatriots who work in foreign universities and research centers. just recently, once again many want to work in russia to participate in interesting meaningful research projects, including advice on the renewal of our megan grants program, which just allows us to assemble a strong research team to solve interesting scientific problems given the proposal. fully supported, i ask the government and

the state duma to make sure that the federal budget for the planning periods until 2026 provides the necessary funding for the mega-grant program, and also to amend the parameter of the program so that its conditions become even more attractive to researchers. i consider it necessary to increase the maximum size of mega-grants, which is very important, and colleagues have recently discussed this with me, and to increase the timeframe for their implementation. well, let's say up to five years, and some say it would be nice to have 10, but up to 5 years with the possibility of extension to three, it will be almost 10. uh, first of all, we need to support major scientific projects of our compatriots and leading foreign researchers . including those who have already participated in the creation of a laboratory in russia world class in 5 years. uh, scientists

should receive a total of half a billion rubles for their project. at the same time, on the condition that he is ready to work in our country on a permanent basis, support in the amount of a quarter of a billion rubles over 5 years will be provided, leading foreign scientists who come to russia will create departments in our universities will engage in teaching activities work with students and graduate students . well, here, actually, it is not enough. what is different from the previous conditions, but we will confirm them and let's expand a little and as a result form such our colleagues from abroad will form scientific schools in key priority areas of development of science and technology. finally, there is another fundamentally new area within the framework of the updated mega-grant program. about each assistance to promising young researchers , including our compatriots, who

want to return to their homeland and make a significant contribution to scientific and technological solutions . launched in a short time. we will be glad to see researchers in our country who share the principles of openness of science, who devote their lives to the scientific belt, who are engaged in projects of the future, and we, for our part , will do it. everything you need to make the developments of tomorrow today already today become global competitors with competitive products and i would like to thank everyone who is involved in the great joint work of roskom. uh, a great collaborator in this area of ​​the roscongress, in particular for organizing our russian forum. uh, quantum center state companies rosatom and russian railways , whose leaders are represented here, and innovative

enterprises, leading research institutes and universities for scientific and technological breakthroughs for the constant desire to move forward. separate words of gratitude to the russian academy of sciences for a deep scientific assessment of research technology projects. i ask you, dear colleagues. uh, to expand not only expert, but also scientific and methodological support of our national development programs i will add that this year the russian academy of sciences is 300 years old and at the present stage of its development , the russian academy of sciences unites business scientists in solving the problems of scientific and technological sovereignty of our country, counting. that it is in this very close interaction that preparations will be made for the next forum, which next year

will be dedicated to the development of e, neuro-cognitive biomes of medical e, technologies. thank you for your attention. thank you very much, vladimir vladimirovich, a very thorough speech report, we will work on it, so we can conduct a couple of parallels that arise, listening to you, listening to speech, including about people about the sign is closed. we really felt it vladimirovich. when they closed a lot of doors to us, and the doors. but this is a challenge. we are working. we showed you that we are trying to make a spirit. we are at a good level. well, when we discuss these things , we often come to the questions, who are we in general and to the questions of the symbols of the new time.

well, before about the new ones. i would like to say. here in the thirty-seventh year of mukhina the composition of the working collective farmer was presented. these were the symbols of that time in the thirty-seventh year. well remembered about it. yes, thank you, not about anything else from the thirty-seventh year. yes, but we are positive. we have positive forms. but in the sixties, when the scientist already managed to tame the energy of the atom, even such an expression of physics, lyrics and the role of physicists arose. she was untouchable. she was really a powerful physicist. often they saved other people, at that time they protected them. then, of course, the nineties, of course, difficult for science have been in the last 20 years. we see very big changes. and so we ask ourselves a question. now discuss all the challenges with colleagues. are we researchers, not

heroes, but in time? of course, we are not trying to occupy the entire pedestal here. that's for sure. we respect many other professions. but what do you think, here is the role of the researcher? it is worthy to be the role of the heroes of our time, you understand, the researcher always goes ahead. he is a renowned pioneer. i mean, he's a fan of what he does, and only fans succeed. this is the first second and second. the consideration is that, well, each time requires its own heroes and uh in the sixties. it started there, of course, a little earlier. uh, if in the field of the thirty-seventh year it began with e, catching opolovichi, whose beria headed e, then the atomic project and was partly related to the rocket project. it all started from there, time demanded e, demanded

results in this particular area, people working in this area certainly became heroes. e public consciousness. now other times, and other priorities. and they are not difficult, huh? to test the most recent research, in my opinion, they were just a couple of weeks ago, the most popular profession among young people is an it specialist. 31%. in second place is a medical doctor with 30%. in third place is the military defender of the fatherland, and so on, but at times i want to emphasize that interest has increased at times. e young

people to engineering professions, in my opinion, there are almost five times. uh, it still says that even though some things are kind of, well, in sight. uh people, there are characteristics for each of these areas. that's what is growing, growing interest in engineering professions. it's still a sign of our times. and as for the researchers, i want to repeat once again they are ahead and they are pioneers and you know, it's better than me . but they did not think about these awards. they just

walked forward, you always need to bow your head low in respect to people of this kind and such a temperament. thanks a lot. now i'm on to the fans. here, ilya sibiryakov, even among our community of researchers, looks like a clearly fanatical person, which sometimes frightens, but most often super pleases ilya share your experience. tell me what you wanted to convey real fanaticism. this is about me, fortunately or unfortunately. and in general, right now, in fact , almost every step in your life. i ask myself a question. this will bring us closer to the creation of a useful quantum computer or not, if yes then there are no other questions i have to ask myself need to. that's it, so we do it, but the story

for me began around the fifteenth year, when i realized that i did not want to do astrophysics. i want to study quantum optics, and i came to the laboratory of nikolai nikolayevich, showed the computer, and here i am. and i am very grateful never to nikolaevich for the fact that at that time a person who still could not do anything to me knew how. he said, okay, please, and at the same time, he came to the laboratory with me. uh, two more people. uh, ilya zalivaka and sasha borisenko then. they were generally still students. and well, we got to know him, we started to work somehow. it turned out that we are very different. very and almost any decision is made we have some kind of hours we yell at each other.

uh, hoarseness sometimes uh, but at the same time, despite such a difference every time we run this forum, each of us remembers our main and in fact the only task for today is to build quantum computers there. well, before that we had other tasks. and this is the difference and at the same time very deep respect to each other. eh, i would even say love, they allow us to look at the problem from different angles and find some solution to it, so we started working, and it was very important, because you can really learn something only by doing real work. well, yes, we graduated from the institute there, they taught us there. everything is fine, but in order to do something real , you need to do and we did a year there from the fifteenth day to the seventeenth year, we did the simplest things, caught and he was there, uh,

collecting traps and so on, then we already became to make applied work much more complex, we made super-accurate clocks for clanas. uh, about 3 more years, and then it started. here is the work already on the roadmap, and there was a big discussion, in general, whether it is worth including our ionic platform. because on other platforms of that moment already, well, there were some calculation results and here i am very grateful to uh rosatom, who then believed in us, said yes, we must do it, and we were very inspired and since then hmm no, probably three years already we have been living in the laboratory, saturdays sundays, monday. e. the only thing that saves is that the sessions close at 11. but if not, we would have spent the night there. and today we have already been able to build the quantum computer that you were shown today. it

is very important for us and it is gratifying to do some useful things that, uh, well, do not directly follow from it. that is, he models molecules, and does not engage in some kind of scientific abstraction. and for us. it is very important. well, of course, our dream is to make it useful . the computer made such a quantum computer that would really solved problems faster than a supercomputer. which would be useful to a wide range of people. and it seems to me that today we have a whole set of ideas on how to do this? well, how to make such a car that really? e, well, that would produce the evolution that it should produce, but well, this is a long job. that's the formation of the team left. well, almost 10 years. and here is the moment when we started to do some first work, but today has passed,