important and gratifying does some useful things that, uh, don't directly follow from it. that is, he models molecules, and does not engage in some kind of scientific abstraction. and for us. it is very important. well, of course, our dream is to make a computer useful for the office, to make such a quantum computer that would actually solve problems faster than a supercomputer. which would be useful to a wide range of people, and it seems to me that today we have a whole set of ideas on how to do this? how to make a car that really? eh, well, here it is there would be a revolution that should produce, but this is a long work, it took to form a team. well, almost 10 years from the moment we started doing some first work. until today , almost 10 years have passed. we

have learned a lot in these 10 years. the main thing is that the participants in the process do not retire. well, yes, i ’m 31 years old, for example, today ilya and sasha are 27 and 29 years old, probably, and in general i am the oldest in our group. ah, the one who lives in the lab. here. uh, so, well, we have there are still 10 years there, for sure. uh, we'll see, but 10 years should uh, and uh, this is the next thing. that is, for another 10 years we will have to implement all these ideas of an attempt. moreover, they are born in the process of doing work, well, the experiment does not work. he always knows for sure if you did something, but you never earn money, never the first time, as we may have had literally a couple of episodes when it worked out the first time, but and for us it’s important to make this computer. and

for this we need support, very very thanks that you mentioned that you really need to look at 20 e five-30 and at 30 plus. e, and for us it is important on the other hand. we are ready to start commercializing these technologies. we are ready to create, in addition to those roadmaps that have some start-ups, some small enterprises in order to make this thing, so that it does not stand in the laboratory, but would begin to disperse not only within russia, but and preferably around the world. and i think that the technological level that we have already reached allows you to do this. do you already know how to envy, and also how to sympathize with people who longingly think that tomorrow she will work, and you don’t want to leave work? well, well, yes, this is happiness, in this, in this, there is happiness, yes, a person lives in this business, uh, about

which he devoted his life. you know, i will share with you, of course. i am far from such a state. but sometimes they ask and so they thought of something specific. yes , the answer is very simple, because i think about it constantly day and night, yes, i fall asleep. i think about it, i wake up, i think, and the solution to some issue is completely unexpected. i think that we have been looking for and living in such a paradigm. yes, i come home every day. well, already at night, i usually don’t tell anything that was mandatory today, and well, all our all our communication, it’s spinning. here are the things around the two things quantum computers and people that are most interesting to me in life today, let's see what will be

expensive later. thank you thank you ilya, this, of course, is to launch a roadmap for the department of rosatom to achieve the first results aleksey evgenyevich can you comment on the life of elijah and how it is possible to live in a laboratory, but at the same time be part of the dew, in general, if we talk about the roadmap, then, of course, this was a big challenge for us. but i think that everyone who is related to the administrative system will understand me. uh, so i apologize , of course, for being frank. and when you are summoned to the government and they say that in three or four years, in the absence of funding sources, you need to demonstrate the result of an image that is not clear. ah,

technologies do not exist, but the government of the academy of sciences will look after you, in this sense, of course, the image of lavrite pavlovich beria is immediately born in the soul, who later led the industry at the stage of its creation and, of course, i want not to disgrace the highly raised banner of ra- soviet, russian nuclear industry. but this, of course, such an emotional part of the challenge was very big, and i am very grateful to those who launched the road map. andrey still had an owl. maxim stanislavovich, he is now dmitry nikolaevich chernyshenko, this work is being carried out and gennady yakovlevich provides a lot of help and we have really uniquely built a roadmap in no way a management mechanism. and as a mechanism for creating an interaction of mutual support, and i'm not afraid of this word of trust, then 3 years ago to say a word, e lyosha fedor was 3 years even younger, of course, we didn’t really understand, how are we after all, relationships with the whole. uh, well, probably with about a dozen scientific groups working in different universities and among wise

leaders. there viktor anatolyevich sadovnicha is one of the leaders, so to speak all programs and with everything with all the young guys and the fact that we managed to , in general, become on the one hand. in the office of this work, having taken on a certain administrative, well, the administrative burden of work there according to the forty-fourth law with state money, but our colleagues trusted us and in a good sense of the word did not ask unnecessary questions, this gave, probably, within two years of a very short period time. well, here are the results that today we even found the courage to show our miss to the president of the russian federation the second moment is very important our second uh, the role of our second service is, of course, and drag it out as actively as possible. in the nuclear industry , quantum technologies that are still emerging are quite like that, you know, that's what they call those who can't speak or walk, but already existing technologies. they need to

be drawn into the nuclear industry at a faster pace on trust. and industrialize them as soon as possible. you know, making them an integral part of the technological landscape, on the other hand. we understand that given this external huge pressure. and we need to give a shoulder to our scientists in terms of the component base for some installations. uh, because import substitution is no longer import substitution. in fact, technological sovereignty and this is largely the work of the state corporation of our other colleagues. gazprom is also doing a lot of work there. well, oleg valentina is now his work in a separate way. i hope to tell and conclude this short speech that i would like to say that we are really, in a sense, proud of this result and by that family of the quantum community, which is now being born by the trust that is and that level by the level, oh that we have reached we are in the country with a capital letter for these

literally 2 years with a tail, you understand, and this level now gives us two ways two very important thank you very much for being the first in your speech, we can now offer international cooperation on an equal footing within the framework of brix within the framework of bilateral cooperation not from the tail of the column. and from the peloton. as they say, uh, cyclists mean to offer cooperation within the framework of educational programs for scientific research, a remarkable proposal was at a meeting with scientists. ah, the emergence of the brixian. nobel, relatively speaking, certain recognition, certain awards. this is a very important fork and the third one. a very important result and the third and second very important thing that i want to say after all. today, we really can call this model whatever you like, you can call the prototype a simulator, but it's still a computer. we can really start it

implement in other industries. for now, let the creation be at the level of staff training, if you want a taste for this work and demand, but this is again non-presentation and schemes. these are real products. and, of course, e in the road map. and what did you say that it would be an off-road map now, and apparently one of the federal projects of a large national project. we already understand what to draw until the end of the twenties. uh, what goals and objectives should we achieve by the thirties and how to bring this industrial platform closer, if you want this new quantum industry. this is exactly the same option as three years ago is not fully understood. image. it is clear that the main meanings, but we can not just form this space. we can bring it much closer to our present day. thanks aleksey evgenievich and today we showed the solution of quantum chemistry problems - these are useful problems

that will help bring medicines, new materials, and so on, but a quantum computer also poses a threat to standard encryption systems and quantum physics. in fact, they think that sometimes this problem was shown to you. well, vladimir egorov is engaged in just the region. how to build a quantum shield? vladimir please tell us good afternoon vladimir vladimirovich good afternoon dear colleagues. yes indeed. it was said earlier that the quantum computer has many interesting applications and much more interesting application. than breaking many of the ciphers that exist today. uh, that's why nato countries china and a number of other countries are also very active in quantum computing. a here we are developing quantum communications. and we are fighting this threat. so the system of information protection circuits allows you to distribute. uh, encryption keys so that they can't be stolen or

copied or there's no communication. they have other benefits as well. in particular, they allow you to automate the process of distributing keys and change them more often, but quantum communications will not replace, but to complete, existing networks for secure data transfer, and, accordingly, they have a number of limitations and therefore their most productive use together with other promising technologies with information security such as post-quantum cryptography and others and therefore, i think, working together with colleagues in the industry and with industry regulators. we will be able to forge the strength of a digital shield for our country. and now the quantum communications industry has entered the most important stage of the transition from a scientific laboratory to implementation, and it is supposed that it will go in three phases. the first is the creation of backbone quantum networks, e.g. for the transfer of keys, which is already underway, and the second phase after certification attestation. e will be equipped with external subscriber connections and it is very important that as many organizations as possible from different sectors of the economy

take part in this process so that we can store all potential applications of e. well, and finally in the long term, it is assumed that quantum communication will be used not only for protection, but also for the transmission of information. uh, the opponents will be, including, uh, the objects of the internet of things, we will move on to a full-fledged quantum internet. what are the prospects before us e carries quantum communications, in fact, to be honest, today no one can fully answer this question, i would draw analogies with the space sphere here, when the first satellite was launched, no one could imagine that in half a century we would have space communication photographs of the earth a little bit of other applications, as well as quantum technology. they have great potential and the quantum link is here at the heart, because it links communication computing and sensors together, and i work in industries. although still very young at 16 years and uh, i've seen her attitude change. ah. from

the beginning it was perceived as science fiction. now you come to the exhibition, and any schoolchild already speaks. yes, we read it on the internet, quantum communication. everything is clear at the dawn of the roadmap. i was invited to russian railways to talk about technology, and i remember that i explained the basic postulates of quantum mechanics. here they were then with help. multi-colored socks and the thought was spinning in my head, like this can be implemented under the auspices of such. well, a fairly conservative industry like railroads. but in the end, everything worked out, and now, when i’m traveling from st. petersburg from my native to moscow, i look at the wires outside the window and think, here it is our quantum highway and the first one. so it turned out that the mechanism of the road map. and it turned out to be very effective, because he connected such a match. here is the creative chaos of the scientific environment and the clear order of the state company. i gave this investigator an impulse and set such a vector of movement. and one of the main tasks of the roadmap today is, of course, the development of personnel has potential , since, as we know, the personnel decide everything and

, according to forecasts, in 2030 quantum communication will be required, especially fourteen hundred specialists with higher education. this does not count the thousands of professionals who will complete the program. and it's not just scientists. these are already implementation specialists, engineers, designers, and so on, and, accordingly, more than 10 russian universities are already conducting educational programs on quantum communication. and today i want to point out probably the most important thing in my speech is that today quantum communications is the science of young uh. breakthrough research on the roadmap and other development programs is being conducted by graduate students, young candidates and doctors of science up to 40 years old. many of them also conduct pedagogical activities in parallel. i am in our team, as ilya also said, uh, one of the oldest and for me a great joy. see how very young guys immerse themselves in science and

, without exaggeration, achieve world-class results. and this is probably in my most enjoyable work. look at people who are even younger than me. uh, and i think it 's very important now to preserve and increase this intellectual capital, uh, in quantum communications and other high-tech industries as well. uh, supporting young scientists today is this support. it is mainly expressed in the form of grants from scholarships, but i have a lot of conversations with young scientists, i know how they live and it would be great. if you have considered supporting a proposal to expand public social support for young scientists by such measures could be, for example, subsidized mortgage lending. e year for children on admission to call her institutions, and deferment from the call, similar to how the industry has been operating since recently. and i should note that over the past decade there. the image of russian science

has changed radically. it has begun to attract a lot of young people to become even fashionable, and i believe that our work and the measures that can be taken additionally. will allow to further accelerate the development of the industry , to retain even more young personnel and to attract and continue the glorious traditions of soviet and russian science. thank you very much. comment and what can we only agree to comment on, and we will do so we can agree, but that it is necessary to support young, and young researchers. we have a lot more and more, this is true, they talked about the laboratories that we have as a result of mega-grants from these laboratories, we have a lot, if e memory is not changes 346 and not only in our leading scientific centers, but also in about ten cities, which earlier, especially not e, were distinguished by the fact that they created large

good research schools. well, as part of this work, one of the conditions was. actually. even the proposal of scientists who conducted this research in laboratories was created in the laboratory. they themselves proposed to us that we create conditions for our young russian researchers. we did just that, and we did it, and today in these laboratories 50.%, if the investigators it's like young scientists and graduate students of course, there are many here. you also need to do household chores. it is necessary to decide whether to create the appropriate base there and, well, create the instrument base for all this. it's a known direction. it is clear to uh how to move, we will do it all. that's all. thank you, vladimir vladimirovich, we are having a very interesting discussion, but as always, when the discussion is interesting, there may not

be enough time, and i would ask the speakers to speak more compactly so that we reach all the participants, we can provide everyone word. well, of course, oleg valentinovich is your department. you really didn't expect the russian railways, having entered the quantum industry 3 years ago already today. here we showed, we saw you showed. we've seen how highways work, how they work between university connections, can you add something. how do you see the general situation that will develop. thank you very much i wanted to start by thanking you for supporting such a very specific format. here we are talking roadmap roadmap, in fact, this is not the usual format of interaction with the state. we seem to be like on an equal footing, usually the opposite happens. uh, we are the government somewhere, either we are either

the government and, accordingly, each has its own kpi. eh, and the results do not always converge here, we have united all the results that can only be achieved jointly, and you just supported such a mechanism, and here is the result, as you said. eh, you saw it. today we are a very pragmatic industry. uh, we're applied. we have the result of the transportation of passengers and goods, but also traditionally asked question. where exactly is quantum communication? i'll give you some numbers. such , uh, i believe that you strategically saw. well , such a, uh, data protection component is very important for us, uh, we have accumulated a volume of information, 32 petabytes. it's 10 there in the fifteenth, as my colleagues told me. uh, everything that moves on the railroad

is always recorded. this is information. information moves quickly and needs to be protected. e last year. uh, the volume of attacks on our system per day is 277.000 together with colleagues. thank you very much rostelecom and other colleagues, and we reflected and we clearly understand that our information system will continue. eh, interests will somehow try to get there, but this is, uh, quantum communications give us an absolute understanding that when using it. with other systems, with other systems, and safety and reliability are two key factors, railways will be clearly preserved. we have given us an application format. these are not quantum communications , there were already developments that we together with colleagues. e brought. we are very pleased. actually here

this conservatism, as you said, eh? it is important to be enthusiastic, and so we were carried away. we moved forward colleagues of the traditional railway workers, but it was necessary to see how much they are implementing this project with such interest. we are uh today. you have already said that we are the leaders in the world in terms of the length of the quantum network. uh colleagues to us, uh, create ours absolutely. uh , patriotic equipment, which gives us confidence that we will double our network next year. uh, and uh in the twenty -fourth year 7.000 km. will be in the thirtieth 15,000 km would already be covered by non-quantum communication. we do not stand still, we are actively moving forward in other areas, and a lot

is really being said about personnel. we , together with research centers, have concluded an agreement on specific figures. how many u scientific u, graduate workers, with what u data we need to get the government, thank you so much. here standardization is always usually e, acts as a brake e. and if the right approach to standardization. eh, it will be, on the contrary , moving forward and that's literally 2 days ago. thanks a lot. uh, the government has signed our concept of e development, e regulatory relations in terms of quantum communications. everything is written. all clear. eh, he thinks. this will also give us an opportunity. eh, move forward. well, and we do not stop on the ground, already today colleagues reported to you that we

signed with moscow state university. uh, agreement, we are together with moscow state university, uh, now we are opening our engineering center, uh, on sparrow eras, and we will explore with them. even more colleagues will explore, and then we will use. uh, results uh, in our work, uh, in terms of space technologies, but in conclusion i want to say that we have already moved from theory to practice and we hope to have demonstrated this today. thank you rail transport in russia is of particular importance. this is a fundamental e, a basic industry on which, just like energy, the entire economy is built. uh, it's safe here. speed ​​security is a lot of factors. and it is extremely important, uh, that the industry does not

stand still, but develops on the basis of the latest technology. it's extremely important but this is welcome. frankly speaking, just now oleg valentinovich said that you should support you , you did it, you did it. that i am proud of that i know that i did not interfere with him. and so they did it. right. thanks a lot. when we were preparing for the forum , oleg valentinovich, he is not a kular, they tell interesting things about such things, like their engineers, who had not even heard before. what is quantum technology. and now, yes, it’s cool, even ours, and the very level of involvement is already driving innovative thinking. as i understand it, not only in these areas. so there are a lot of wonderful side effects going on. well , we talked about the protection of information, but still, a quantum computer is not only

an attack. these are really algorithms that should be used in industry in the city . so i asked alexei fedorov to tell alexei that he has been working on algorithms for several years. tries them. please tell us about your experience, and respected vladimir vladimirovich dear colleagues. yes, i would like to continue this topic of transition from theory to practice, because that's how ilya said our dream is a useful quantum computer utility, it is determined largely by the economic demand to make useful tasks for companies. we see that there are very bright examples in the world, when e has grown, prosan and quantum technology is being stimulated, which allows making bright projects. here are the connections to you networks for the transmission of information and for the pilot introduction of quantum computers, despite the fact that today they do not show an economic effect. this leading work on long rhythms on the software. we need it now, so that by the time iron appears, we understand how to use it for a solution. helpful task branches in this sense many thanks to the pioneers.

yes, the industry is gazprombank, which applies finance to you in technology in the field, of course, rosatom together, with which we are not just creating a quantum computer, but we see the task of the industry as a very difficult important task of which a quantum computer can be useful, indeed such first approaches to the projectile. there are solutions to problems of thermal conductivity for a new generation of reactors. this is an optimization problem, but there are many, many other things in the electric power industry. that is, we see many applications for quantum computers joy this work. and, of course, there is talk of making the quantum computer a useful tool. for every person. here we are also grateful to the government of moscow because, thanks to the work with colleagues, we saw new application prospects that will allow us to really solve complex optimization problems, with which clashes, the city of delivery logistics by urbanism, designed by the new industrial information protection data processing portals. yes, to find those solutions thanks to hmm increasing the efficiency of solving these activation tasks to increase the quality of life of each person of each citizen. therefore, we are glad that such clusters are being created as centers for the introduction of quantum

technologies, and it seems to us that for the horizon of the twenty-fifth thirtieth year. here is the creation of such implementation centers for cross -industry implementations of quantum computing quantum communications is indeed a very important task. and now i can't help but say that people are really a cross-cutting theme of our entire forum. and people, my colleagues evgeniy kitenko, were also behind the demonstrations of quantum algorithms. nastya nikolaeva, they did a great job to use the quantum computer to deprive so far small tasks, but already meaningful useful ones , and now it is important for us that our entire large quantum family. we are happy that we are doing an interesting task, we see the benefits of quantum technologies that we can bring. only to wish success showed me success. you just showed me a quantum computer. well, how could the e of the first approach to the projectile, as a colleague here said to sort it out, well, it’s impressive, of course, especially when you showed there that calculations in normal mode on

modern super computers would take there a little or not, centuries on quantum results, it is achieved in a matter of hours or not, of course, impressive impressive and it becomes. it is clear how much modern technologies of the future are important, e.g. in the development of any economy and not only the economy of all spheres of society. well , just please support in every possible way. this is forward movement. thank you very much. thank you, you mentioned in your speech about sergei semenovich , sobyanin, on which the moscow quantum is now being created to power, if possible, i would ask for a microphone for comments semenovich good afternoon, dear colleagues vladimirovich, you instructed to actively engage in support, and

later technologies and quantum technologies in this is logical for moscow, because many of our enterprises have high global competencies in these areas, as far as photonic technologies are concerned. moscow and the creation of photonic integrated circuits for transceivers and technologies that allow e to speed up the processing of data transmission by about 100 times. this is the technology that is today. well, it’s not cata-fantasy, it’s something which is being implemented in many countries. and if we are not with these technologies, then we will be forced to receive finished products, as we used to receive, again standing in line for

these technologies. we started building the center, and the laboratory and industrial center in zelenograd a next year. it will already be built. i hope that we will attribute it to equipment in the twenty-fifth year, we will receive the first products , which, in fact, should provide, and consumers in our country, these are mobile operators, this is both a data processing center and, isps and so on and so forth. this allows, uh, to reduce energy consumption , speed up data transfer and get a completely different economy, as far as quantum technologies are concerned. we work like referrals. e with colleagues. here, who are sitting here from the rivers valentinovich, we signed an agreement on the creation in the st. petersburg form, and the communications quantum center based on the center of the

lomonosov scientific center