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about the main news that has happened these days in russia and in the world. today my guest is deputy chairman of the synodal department for relations between the church and the media society vakhtang and pshidze, vakhtan, vladimirovich hello, this is where i would like to start. how is vladimirovich kiev negotiating with the archbishop of constantinople e. bartholomew, and programs about involvement of the patriarchate of constantinople in the removal from ukraine of christian values, allegedly under the threat of destruction from russian bombardments. moreover, this is reported by the director of the russian foreign intelligence service sergey naryshkin. ah, well, of course not, there are reasons not to trust the foreign intelligence service, but what do you know about this. it may take out, in fact, it is known that any meeting of the leaders of the ukrainian state by the snopol patriarch. unfortunately, it leads to even greater suffering for the ukrainian people. we always remember what else

in 2018 upon request. poroshenko fanar. legalized by raskolnikov since then , the division in the ukrainian religious space has worsened, there have been seizures of churches , there have been persecutions, and believers have all this worsened. e, led to the fact that many people lost the opportunity to pray in their temples. now hmm, the new head of the ukrainian state. zelensky met with you again and ukrainian believers can’t expect anything good about this from this meeting, except for raskolnikov, of course, and i won’t be surprised that the lantern, which, in general, always had tried. in my opinion, to take advantage of any situations in his favor, spitting on by and large on ordinary believers, that he can do it this time too. we still remember the situation in the twenties of the last century, when the lantern actually hmm tried to flirt with

the atheists. in the sense of receiving some material wealth. lantern, blessed raskolnikov of that time. uh, a new church, the so-called living churchmen who destroyed our russian church. now he's doing the same thing almost 100 years later, that is, to help the schismatics in every possible way, and i think that i will not stop before profiting from the saints. and at the expense of the ukrainian people, at the expense of the ukrainian believers, it is even called a shrine, which abroad, but can bring this washing of andrew the first-called and panteleimon and behind. and rumors continue to be circulated in the media and on the internet. e that the ground is being prepared for the transfer of the kiev-pechersk lavra to constantinople, that all these searches are recent, and the arrival of the security forces, they are not accidental, this information is confirmed in your church circles. in fact. you

absolutely right. uh, we have no doubt that the patriarch of bartholomew can steal any relics that fall into his hands . unfortunately, in recent years we have encountered the most undisguised perfidy on the part of the patriarch of kistopol. we hmm that purely for political reasons amended. all possible canons were legalized by raskolnikov, which hmm, previously written many times, publicly recognized as such consumables. it really is. completely led to a complete loss of confidence in this christian leader. and of course, if now under his cover, so to speak, will be taken out, including the relics of andrew the first called and other relics that are mentioned in the message of the foreign intelligence service.

this will not surprise anyone, so we can only pray that the lord does not leave ukrainian believers, that he protects them from this kind of bullying, abuse, and, of course, there is also some hope that the publication of these materials in the public space. would still stop someone from implementing these. what do you think the reaction of believers will be if this transfer of constantinople will take place? on believers there generally no one asks. as you know, just this week , some time ago, there were attempts to seal the buildings of the lavra and not let believers in and, uh, there were peaceful attempts to resist this without law. i'm over the fence there these shots, well, or shots of violent detentions and they saw all this, but the ukrainian authorities. i use carte blanche. they just terrorize the believers, and whatever

the believers think, if they reached some kind of agreement there, i mean, bartholomew and zelensky, they will implement them , even with him they will have to terrorize the people of ukraine. here's another piece of news. they know whether it is already being discussed in ukraine that hmm is a public holiday. and i will move christmas on january 7 to december 25 on the day when catholics are celebrated. christmas well, it is clear that ukraine , which has already postponed victory day from may 9 to may 8, on the day when europe celebrates it, but still, this is a secular holiday, and here is a religious holiday, but does this mean that the liturgy services, christmas ones will also be postponed. uh, from u january to december. what does the canonical church say about this, how does it look at it and how do the faithful ukrainians treat it. uh, it's so easy to rearrange it in the mind.

e peoples, when to celebrate christmas and by this the ukrainian authorities quite definitely make it clear to the believers of the ukrainian orthodox church, which celebrates hmm the day of christmas according to the julian calendar, that is, on the seventh of january, that they do not exist in the right field, that no ukrainian state among. as i understand it, the authorities are not interested when these of people. christmas day is one of the greatest christian holidays, and that's why they decided to designate christmas as a public holiday, when it's convenient , uh, for themselves and probably those who in the west give them advice, they were told that, you know, we are still destroying the ukrainian orthodox church and it’s somehow strange if christmas according to their calendar remains in our holidays in our corresponding state calendar, so they took it and literally moved it there in a single part. uh, christmas is

december 25th. of course i am convinced that ukrainian believers, who are the majority in m-th ukraine, they will celebrate their christmas when their grandfathers, great-grandfathers celebrated it, namely on the seventh of january. well, it's going to be a public holiday on that day, then, uh, it won't stop anyone. they are well aware that since the government is doing something like this in relation to the believers. so it is necessary to oppose this in every possible way, and i think that among ukrainians there are quite a few who will do just that. let's talk about our internal affairs on july 12 between the holy trinity, sergius lavra and the state tretyakov gallery signed an agreement on the transfer of use, and the icons were tripled written by andrei rublev, the signing was attended by the patriarch and minister of culture olga beloved. a hmm tell us how you managed to achieve. here

is this, as it were, a peaceful resolution of the conflict around the transfer of the shrine. you know, i think this is a long overdue decision. we also know that it was agreed upon at the highest level and, of course, we have been a little bogged down in recent years. here in this say inertia, the understanding that great shrines can be subjected to some kind of danger if they are transferred into the possession of the church in the possession of believers very, in my opinion, clearly shows that the longer time of its existence, namely several hundred years, the icon of the holy trinity . nevertheless, it was preserved by the church, and it was the church that preserved it all these centuries so that we could now render worship to this icon. this is revered by the saints, then it was the soviet era. and uh,

it began to seem to someone that this is the time when the shrines, as if they were hiding from the believers, they didn’t drag them to be in temples, only in zamuzins , some showcases, and so on. it seems that it should continue, but we, as believers, are convinced that this is not so, we believe that, for all the value of shrines such as the trinity of andrei rublev, the church , together with the state, together with the ministry of culture and other profiles of experts structures. still, it can ensure the necessary safety of the icon, wherever it is. and when it was temporarily transferred and was in the cathedral of christ the savior, and when she will be handed over to work to sergius everywhere. i think the church and uh, ministry of the tretyakov gallery. they will take all the necessary measures so that the icon does not suffer, but

you know we must, in my opinion, distinguish between a living spiritual heritage, that is, those to whom people pray and pay homage to them, as i already said, and a dead heritage. here we see everything in museums. i don’t know, the tomb of the pharaohs , the mummy, and all sorts of other ancient artifacts. they are also very valuable and significant for culture, but no one is dead to them. worships. so i am convinced that we should not allow the orthodox shrines, which are used by believers from the outside, are deeply revered , which they pray, so that they turn into dead museum heritage, in my opinion, this is a completely wrong approach and very good, what is now, having both the church and the state and relevant departments. this situation is changing for the better the other day the state duma in the third reading adopted a law on the ban. let

me remind you that for the past six months , a number of laws were adopted during the year concerning the strengthening of traditional values, aimed at this total forbidden propaganda. not only among minors, but among the entire audience, and this is a law that prohibits horned motherhood in the interests of foreigners, including gamers, and now a ban on sex change. ah, why, as it were, in russia, where for a long time no e laws were adopted in this regard, suddenly, as if from a cornucopia, they fell down right now. i think it's related. well, firstly, with the fact that the idea of ​​traditional values ​​is the concept of traditional values, it began to enter our political and legal circulation. and it is very important

that we come to the realization that traditional values ​​are not some kind of feminist category. and what should determine our life. uh, it took us not a single decade, and here, right now, historical circumstances have developed in such a way that you should no longer look back at some experts. i don't know hmm foreign political leaders who tell us how to live and what is the value. and what value is not we define the latter. in places, and how we define it in a completely justified way is reflected in our legislation. eh, indeed. you're right , there was a law passed that bans gay propaganda and gender reassignment and a law that, uh, respectively hmm, bans children from being taken abroad. for the sake of adoption, born by russian surrogate materials. that's it,

this is our hmm, our policy, which is being implemented here. she really connects words big words to protect traditional values ​​with deeds, that is, legislative measures to uphold these traditional values. here many people ask what is traditional values. well, who is there, maybe knows their full list, which is relevant. uh, documents, including the presidential katya . come on. let's just say very simply the most understandable and generally applicable traditional value is understanding the family as the union of a man and a woman. this is actually a really spiritual basis for the existence of our society, but in general everything european can be in general world civilization. now the concept of the family is completely destroyed, this is done primarily in western countries. and you know that paul turns into such a moving thing.

today, you consider yourself a man. tomorrow, a woman every other day, again men, and so on, and children from school age have been talking about this now, and in some western countries they are twitching, index 13 proves to them that they should think. and who are they really boys or girls? but if they are there, they think that they are girls, for example, being biological boys, they can immediately be prescribed hormones so that they drink these hormones, their sexual competition stops and by the age of eighteen, they would already be. uh, completely barren by and large, so to speak, deprived of the possibility of childbearing subjects. i don't even know if it's possible. well, how would one consider , uh, relating, well, how would an experiment of this kind be permissible in relation to children's people. in this case, by and large, they are turned from people into some kind of i don’t know, into biomass,

if it starts, uh, to force or so it’s obsessive to suggest a sex change, i don’t know, almost sadov’s age, that’s why traditional values ​​​​and, above all, family , motherhood, childhood, fidelity, all this, but really the essence of our e-civilization, which we must protect, including the forces of laws and it’s good that now it is done without any regard, no matter who you are. and how would you like it, vladimir and our program, we answered, for example, hmm such as ksenia sobchak other people are critical of the adoption of this law. she, for example, wrote that he is a shameful repressive contempt for the decaying europe of quotes and terribly in liberal values ​​rolls us back to medieval asiaticism. you know, i think that the editor of this channel needs to study the history of europe better and i don't know the current news agenda. we know, firstly, that

in hungary in 1920 a law was also adopted prohibiting sex change, and this did not make hungary less of a european side, i will even say more. she has become more of a european country, because this whole shameful story, transgender experiments on people are everything, this is a denial of our european heritage, and the christian heritage, first of all, even elon musk, who, as you know , is not a single person who writes sobchak is not a figure. i don't know among the centuries, even he said those doctors. and parents who participate in sex reassignment of underage children should receive a life sentence. so i think that this may be unexpected, but evidence of the need to protect european values. i think that we are prohibited from changing gender here in russia. we stand up for our christian civilization which, of course, has to do with

european heritage and many people in the west really understand this. everyone has long been tired of these experiments. this is the imposition of gender reassignment as a local bullying, over children who are offered all this. and i think that this law will arouse great sympathy among the morally healthy people in the west. uh, well, now to the questions of healthy people of the west and hmm one of the most prosperous countries in europe sweden ah news, frankly, wild police this country gave the go-ahead to the action with the burning of the jewish and christian bibles in front of the israeli embassy, ​​how do you comment on this? it was not tanyukha who commented on me. but it is clear in what way that you will say this, just multiply remind the audience that before this, uh, they burned the koran in this country. they're just trying to show. i do not really know who and why, that they can burn anything, including

the koran and the bible to the torah, everything. that's what they don't like or someone just wanted to do it, they can burn it this way negate, image, but the damage to the image that was caused by the burning of the koran. as i understand it, let's burn everyone then. well, yes, i think it's crazy, that is, a place for b to somehow react to the reaction of people who are really at least, um, shocked and offended by such things. i 'm talking about the muslims, who reacted exactly like this to the burning of the koran they were looking for. well, you see, we are not against muslims. we can burn religious saints of any or any religion. this is crazy, really. e madness. i consider political madness morality historical madness whatever i think that the state, which is building its existence on such things, is in denial. and by the way, again, this has nothing

to do with european prices the european human sub-industry has repeatedly defended the feelings of believers, but the madness of political madness, but it turns out that the right, that is, the right, is stronger. it never proceeded from the fact that the feelings of some category of people, in this case, believing muslim jews christians can be ignored. but what we see now is not right. this is what i say, madness, however, is a well-known phrase that loves to adopt. europeans are very fond of, especially the french. my freedom is ending. where the freedom of another person begins. i think that this expression has already ceased to operate, at least it has ceased to operate, in relation to believers whom you can insult, humiliate , mock them. thank you very much for coming to our studio and commenting on this news. thank you it was very nice.

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