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[000:00:00;00] the archaeologist koryakova, who was examining the scene of the incident, drew a diagram of the location of the remains of the burials according to this diagram, it is clear that the remains were in a chaotic order at different depths in different poses in different directions in relation to the cardinal points. archaeologist koryakova. i saw guests in the northern part of the excavation, who were and were hanging out in discord. they didn't match the skeletons. and she scolded our dilettantism disclosure. it's us, what, we did it, but deepening another
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50 centimeters, we understood the reason why a cable ran along the northern edge of the burial, and this one, which was laying the cable - this preservation was violated for storage was severely damaged, and the excavations of 579-1980, that is, when avdonin ryabov's group first removed the skulls, then returned them also, and along the edge of the burial itself, a cable was laid in the seventies or in the eighties , which also penetrated into this burial and some of the bones were mixed up mixed up , 9 skeletons 11 years old, represented only one cranial vault. here are some more small bones that could be identified, which completely dissolved in acid and for the second year was half destroyed in the deep part of the burial. and according to the recollections and testimony of the participants in the autopsy, there was such a black slurry that had a chemical smell. there the smallest number of bone fragments was found in the lowest place in 1979. we worked standing there on this place zhizhi when we came out of there we washed our boots and the boots from
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the black light turned into blue at the age of 60 passed sulfuric acid is an acid. this is a place for authentically, which was mentioned by yurovsky soy notes to a learned historian of pokrovsky. and this place matches the number of corpses found there. and the most important thing is the effect of the acid that they were filled with. the excavations lasted only 3 days. after that, such army boxes were brought. strengthened by roll were, as if wet and very soft. i just want to say one thing. i 'm talking about a spasmodic and not very sloppy start to excavate and follow in this issue. first they found people of stocks. two months later they laid out 300 more shards from the burial place, the skeletons were transported in army boxes, lined with foam rubber in
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order to preserve them intact. after that started already, working experts and researchers. so both anthropologists and the ruler. i invited. the head of the primorye laboratory, involuntarily nikolai ivanovich, he says, we do not have the equipment that we can do this. i say, in general, the equipment is there. so i can give you a list. what do we need equipment into the most modern equipment. here we will do everything with this equipment, a complete analysis of everything. i made a decision immediately and immediately bought all the equipment and repaired it in the laboratory. all the equipment was put differently on you for many years of work. well, everyone missed the years. you lay on the tables and follow that they are ashamed in front of the western world to turn this
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tragedy into some kind of show from 1991 to 1993, research and study of these remains were carried out in the city, which by that time had already been renamed yekaterinburg i was recommended by one of the leaders of the military medical academy e. b. this research group for the study of the remains of the royal family. we flew in 1992 to yekaterinburg, governor rossel decided that there should also be an american commission for medical export, experts from the americans who were supposed to control the level of our training, as experts and our conclusions, arrived. during the study , a number of questions and scientific disputes arose, which turned out to be won by russian researchers, americans. it wasn't denied supported, showing the signs of victory in our
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favor on august 19, 1993. the prosecutor general's office initiated a criminal investigation into
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the discovery of the remains of nine people. in this case, mr. solovyov said that he did not know what historical expertise is. well, if you don’t know, why are you taking it, you are obliged to carry out examinations that are put by experts from the government commission, and solovyov is an investigator for especially dangerous crimes. he came to me, he showed me his id and everything is done. no question the prosecutor's office gathered and said, look at everything you need to help him with all the documents. here he is a conscientious work. it’s better here in good faith to report to me periodically everything, as a result of the investigation. the main question here is such that the family died. i have
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some doubts. and here is the result, how did sokolov have her shot. and what are the results of this shooting? first or negligible or not all? and the second yes, they were destroyed, but what happened to the bodies, or were they burned by acid and fire, or the bones, they remained like a piglet in this pit here the main question, because sooner or later all of them e. well, to put it mildly, er, well, not bad work. she will do everything. i did not get out the process. i was only as an organizer. all this company was attracted by german scientists. there are english scientists, in my opinion, and americans. the french were here too. and this is what all scientists came to a common conclusion. this is not one. we are unhappy there. nikolaeva ivanovich nemtsov in such a staged order. you are scientists.
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you can use it for another 100 years. that's once in the genetics there shows we make a decision about the closure of this case, despite the fact that there was a dissenting opinion confirmation dissenting opinion aleksey and they are precisely vasilievich of the battleship of the institute of history of the ural branch of the academy of sciences of many people. this ignored commission took place with 23 people. half of them were officials. this is the deputy fsb deputy minister of health, every deputy is present today for a date one after another, because they were changed , this is how he sits. he knows nothing , has no idea about anything, and he votes makes a decision. that's how it went. this solution, and the solution was formulated by solovyov , the identification of the remains was carried out and now there is a gigantic degree of probability. we can say that
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yes, the remains of the royal family of the ninety-eighth year were found near yekaterinburg, which ended in petropavlovsk reburial. and again, when they kept the incomplete composition of the family, and in the childhood of tsarevich and maria, it seems to me, solovyov, like sokolov, should have tried to figure out this question until the end for some reason, they didn’t find it, so time yekaterinburg ethnographers continued to search for new archival documents that had not previously been investigated played an even greater role. these are memoirs of the yakovlevarovsky 1934. this so-called secret transcript of the meeting of the old bolsheviks, this meeting was organized on the initiative of the urals from the party was such an organization, the forerunner of the ural bar archive. and so moiseev asked yurovsky, then he was still alive in 38, to come here to tell the
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big old centuries how it really was deed. she was hidden, i'm coming to the conference. not guys, they say that lyudmila anatolyevna is not given to us in the archive with them . this document, how is it not given. now let's figure it out, i called our chief leader and said that there are local history researchers. on this topic, they are not given everything they are given, and these transcripts are precisely the transcripts. these are about 30 pages and they served as some kind of impetus for further searches for ours. this transcript tells in more detail about all the events and circumstances, the death and burial of the royal families. and yursky writes that the group was digging a grave for the burial of nine remains. and they continued to burn the remains of two, as members of the royal family, tsarevich alexei and the great
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bookstore maria, and his name nikolaevna says, i introduced him as the organizer of the head of this operation, he was supposed to sit there. and so, to see how it happened, here is this company of a great grave. where could he sit? he says, i stood on this place and saw. you saw this place, only here on this hillock this document became the starting point new searches yekaterinburg local historians shitov ni uymen and grigoriev, already knowing the transcript and having a copy of it in their hands, arrived at the flock pig and determined the approximate location of additional searches in 2006. we went here to this place to see where we can continue this search . nikolai and vitaly vasilievich, of course, jokes in the summer of 2006, did not die. they determined
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the approximate location of additional searches. at the same time, they chose a territory that had not previously been researched by search engines. archaeologists at 9 m. here passes the excavation line and something of the history and archeology of 1994, the search for this bonfire, which is missing with two human remains. in the seventh year, they worked, the commission stopped working and, accordingly, search engines also stopped working here of the academic institute, and we participated in these expeditions and helped. but then, unfortunately, they did not reach this place. although you literally know, they didn’t reach it, but in total it could be 15-20 meters. that is, then this discovery would have already been made, as if archaeologists they need squares. to hide everything, the top layer and look, therefore there is a lot of excavation work, and search work is different from it, because our task is not to open the ground to find the bones of the fighters, so we can look at a much larger area in the same time, with the help of a pike pinching such
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an iron pond with a sharp end, we go sticking the ground in 2007. they organized an expedition, in which they invited members of the military historical club, mountain shield. the decision was made to conduct reconnaissance, not collapsing methods, that is, using the experience of our comrades from the military historical club mountain shield. that is, this is work with a mine detector probe in order to detect a coal layer in the surface layers of the soil, respectively, it is possible that the earthwork
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was sought for. the earth publishes various sounds. if it is admissible in the stone, one sound will be poked into the metal. well, also, if he buries the coals from the fire, he also makes a characteristic sound. as the searchers say it creaks from these embers of wood, six or seven such exits were made, and we focused on what on the fire on the coals and these coals were discovered in the second clearing on july 29, 2007. in this window. we present the results of the erkhivin expedition or artistic research in the summer of 2007. lenin grigorievich vokjakov. here it is photo, so i discovered with the help of this probe i discovered the remains of alexei maria, by that time i had gone far away and was returning in reverse. maybe he checked this area, because there are a lot of fires here, because the place is so very good,
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it has always been. and that’s why mushroom pickers didn’t make other fires here, so i found a lot of all sorts of extraneous things, they lost knives and combers there. that is, these are several knives, for example, i found and it was clear that these coals should be under a layer. uh, turf by layer soil, it is considered, this is not a fresh fire. it has been there for a long time, and since then, grass leaves fall and a layer of turf is formed. that is, it must be sought in depth. and here on this kind of remnants of a fire on a fire pit on the old one and came across in their centuries. i was looking for a big fire, but a small fire. there are a lot of big fires here. this one was the only one everywhere. here is thin grass, there was such dense vegetation, but, apparently, grass grows better on corpses and sapper shovel. notched the bands pulled up flipped and saw the ground there was not solid, but was once dug up and will force the soil, embers, black embers. these woody ones he
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realized that he had indeed found a fire pit. yes, he began to deepen this pit, until he came across something solid there, mm, touching it with his hands and pulling it out, he was convinced that it was a bone , he perfectly identified it. and after that he told his colleagues that he had found something. well, of course, this assumption was that these were the right remains. this needed confirmation. it was at a depth of about 0.4-05 m just worth it. he's so small the depth was somewhere around 7 large bones. we found, and then two bones of the skull pelvic bone bone human forearm. that is , we have such a longitudinal cut, apparently, it carries. let them just burn it and chop it up, that they went to this hole. the results of these searches were the discovery in the summer of 2007, a bonfire, in which fragments of the bone remains of two people were found every other day. uh, archaeological work has been started.
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that is, a complex archaeological expedition was formed, which was headed by sergei nikolaevich pogorelov with all the necessary specialists, arrived on the 29th, received the artifacts, called everyone and on the 30th everyone had already come here, and here we began to make plans for the territory, topographic geodesics, break up excavations around the place of discovery, and work began according to the archaeological method. by the way, here is the place where if i did not find the archaeologists. this is when everything else works. they just this place next to each other literally adjoins. and there, by the way, found. there are a lot of small burnt bones here. i mean, i only found a hole. where are these bones then they threw it, and next to it was, where they burned, there are red ones, this is the dimension of all the small bones. that 's all, in short, i only found large bones, and then during further autopsies. we found the rectangle exactly the hole,
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because we determined that the soddy part was removed and a kind of bath was made in this clay soil. i call where and put two this body. perhaps they were nearby, and most likely in the same way as the ostovichi narrowly. they were placed on top of each other in the southern part of this fire pit. it has survived for over a meter. rectangular. e, there was an oval pit, if the depth to the procal island was about 30-40 cm, then the pit turned out to be more than 60 cm. here it was completely filled. and during these archaeological excavations, the whole area and the excavation itself were checked with the help of metal detectors with the help of metal detectors to search for metal parts with delicious remains of various contents. well, that is, perhaps bullet casings, if they did not fall into this place in a split in the pit in the pit in which they were dropped, the burnt unburned remains, we found three pistol bullets along with bone remains.
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were discovered. you see these three bullets, and two bullets are intact, that is, they hit the video soft. but one loose bullet hit the bone, let’s say, presumably, returning a little to the bones, since this is for geneticists, for example, the most important material is like for more exact science, we found 7 teeth of different preservation, but two of them had silver fillings exactly the same as in some skulls found by great magic. this confirms the connection of these two objects in the summer of 2007, together with professional archaeologists worked as search engines in the piglets' lagoon, and a report was compiled on the results of their archaeological research. another interesting find.
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these were fragments of a ceramic vessel. these were fragments similar to those found in the ninety-first year in a large grave, as i call it, on the katyukovskaya road, where nine bodies were found during excavations by us. it was precisely the fragments from those jugs from japanese sulfuric acid that voikov received at one time in a pharmacy on zolotogorsk street. this is also a very important artifact, which proves the first. uh, the relationship of these two objects is a large grave, as i call it? well, the very presence of sulfuric acid here and just like that was found among the bone remains and these fragments, and the ceramic vessel was found. two pieces of matter , archaeologists suggested that perhaps this is alexei's vest, since there is documentary evidence of sukhorukov's note that everyone was completely naked except for. here, the upper part of the body of alexei was dressed on him a vest, that is, here and uh, our archaeologists looked into the light and saw that there really was a striped one
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, that is, it was a piece of a sea vest, in which the boy often walked in the photographs . we also handed over all the finds of artifacts that were made here. in particular. this is our prosecutor solovyov and representatives of the sverdlovsk forensic examination. all this was officially done after some for some time, the skeletal remains were handed over to the investigation, and then to the state archive of the russian federation for storage of people were until the autumn of 2015. i believe that the remains that were found by the piglet, or , as we now call it, the royal lough, are the remains of authentic and raises no doubt. all these examinations, which were carried out in the nineties and in 2008,
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when she scientific-practical conference of the international conference, held on december 5, 2008. years , convincing one hundred percent evidence was presented the belonging of these remains to the royal family, again there are few fragments, because a few grams of the total remains of two paths. this is very small, therefore, somewhere other fragments could have been scattered or somewhere else. well, again, the reason, we must try to bring it to the end, and here’s how, e, a statement of the fact that this happened there was no unification among the people of the people, the discovery of the remains of the church to the family, could not and did not bring, on the contrary, the russian orthodox church still had questions about the correctness of the conclusion in the investigation government commission on the belonging of the remains to a member of the royal family. that's when
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we will have the results of the research and when the church will be sure that the experiment was set up really flawless. yes, we will reflect on the topic of the significance of these remains for our church and for our people in the fall of 2015, the investigative committee of the russian federation resumed an investigation into this criminal case, a number of new examinations were appointed, including a historical and archival examination, which previously within the framework of the case not appointed, the results of these examinations will be evaluated in conjunction with other evidence in this case, which has been going on for more than 100 years. radio sputnik let's figure it out, how in fact up to 5
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