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moment. the fifth studio continues the conversation with certainly important weapons, which are now being supplied in increasing quantities to ukraine . today , america has announced another tranche of 400 million dollars, cartridges , shells, and so on, when it's all over, when it ends, uh, shells. will they end, because in america there is a small scandal. uh, trump blames biden, and the fact that he gives out military secrets, in fact, apparently, well it is clear that they are not shells. there are many more shells. unfortunately. and here is the supply of cluster munitions. she just says that there is more. sorry what to
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supply. uh, we will talk about this with konstantin gavrilov, the head of the delegation of the russian federation on issues of military security and arms control. e, konstantinovich i greet you. thanks for taking the time. hello hello everyone! when they run out, their warehouses say empty empty, and everything is delivered. but it always happens, alexander anatolyevich, so everything seems to be keeps holding on, then a small speck and the dam breaks. well, they are already in the line, where there is already not enough ammunition. and indeed, maybe ukrainians don’t feel it that way, only in the stocks of europe and the usa you really feel it. i tell you, these ammunition supplies are reliable. this is the so-called gesture. uh, desperation they understand to have a defense with them , uh, work really hard. they can bomb
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journalists. uh, kill comps with a soldier. they will, of course, cause harm, but not the same as the attackers. how do you know our guide answered. they have already begun to use it, which means, most likely, soon ours will use uh, also like that. already on the coming it is very effective. yes, including in terms of armored vehicles and the nomenclature, we have a wider range, they do not have carriers. e bomb. they cannot use an air bomb, but they can use ours, which are ten times more effective than everything else. and konstantinovich well, that is, with a fundamental difference in air bombs, a more powerful defeat of the attackers. uh, here, of course, this is the fate of supplies from 49, which in calibers is just 155 caliber and there are 400-700 and several thousand bombs and striking abilities are much
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larger and the combined ones can also light armor equipment and personnel , and so on, and you already mentioned. uh, tragedy with our journalist colleague. uh, and he died precisely from a cluster munition, exactly what it is about. in general, we warned, and you also warned other experts that there would be more damage to the civilian population. well, journalists do the same, and their work across international conventions. he, too, in general, is considered not a participant military operations. this is written in many documents. and now it is the erosion of international law. eh, and we also talked about this often. e that all the norms that were developed by great bloodshed, two world wars and so on are supported, and humanity, it seems, as understanding has come. well, don't bomb, the red cross doesn't need to shoot at journalists. no need to shoot specifically at civilians and so on.
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these are the questions in vienna, after all. discussed at least somehow or not at all, do you understand? e on the forum, e, this e was not was and has not been said, because it has not happened yet. but i don’t know, there will be a special meeting in the near future today, where we don’t participate, there’s another one. it’s just that the permanent missions are participating, maybe they will say something, but for some reason it seems to me that they will choose the words as the same as the ones unesco chose or, uh, some other organizations nikandesu eliya, as they usually write, and the diploma diploma from an accident understands from english to translate it in general, they invent new wording in order to not to do this, not to express not to condemn. uh, these acts and it
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's a characteristic, but we do it, we force them, we put them in a nice position and i'll talk about their double standards. if not us, who will speak to them, they would all be happy to sit in silence, and we do not give them peace. and this is very correct konstantinovich and as i understand it, strikes on moscow are also. today , this is such a sluggish statement from the americans that they seem to disapprove of strikes on russia. this. they don't approve at all. in the end, they are hidden behind the wording, and ukraine itself chooses ways to protect itself. and we supply weapons. that is, we give a leg to ukraine as it will kill people or there the state or so on there and the like is a matter. that's so cynical. uh, cynical approach, in general these words. you just can't believe anymore. and konstantinovich well , an interesting statement by mr. wallace, uh, who said that ukraine helped them
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get rid of old weapons, quotes from him, uh, london provided kiev with more than 200,000 artillery shells instead of the previously planned 16,000. where do such revelations come from? why are there so many things happening right now? they say some straight forward things. what is it for? do you think yes absolutely right? yeah, sure, they're getting rid of old reserves. it’s as if ukraine is doing it for the good and not spending money on the disposal of these ammunition, but they disposed of the fact that their treasures are now empty. they are not tanks, they do not produce anything. now the americans are nobody, they are really left with the naked, as they say, yes, yes, strengthened by a strong, combat-ready, highly motivated russian.
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the armies can still resist the same stubborn ones, and the ukrainians are big to resist, no one can, and they understand this, like, therefore, everything is invested in ukraine, please, please, kill their praise from well, from their stupidity falls, what 's going on, the famous challengers did not appear like that. well, they are now talking about f16 and will not appear. never in total discredit leopards have now come out full of bradley, these they still want to put on strikers. let him put a super duper striker. let's see what happens to him. here's to recovering us. alexander and i have already said so many times, this is sweet. this is such a vibrant nation. nate carrot. run, run, who's the use of them for miles, even though they have reasonable generals. uh, the chief of staff united their leaders. here he is, he says, something like 2 billion. they need nice ones, and think about mine clearance, and air defense think about other things, they are planes. that's it said. and about the fact that demining
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will take many years and some amounts are called huge in dollars. as i understand it, this mine topic, it will be raised more and more now, yes, yes, you know the most difficult ones, i remember the balkans started it. that's how much was mined there in and in kosovo and in the balkans of bosnia, especially e, until now , the price of our ministry of emergencies has helped to clear mines, and in laos, how many of these cassettes are still lying around. that is, no one says them. why did lava settle in laos they just dropped them , american planes could not land with ammunition. they just dropped them and that's it. well, just anywhere, that is, no at positions not at objects. in the same way, during the nato bombings , bombs were dropped that were not used nearby in yugoslavia. there with the base i had, in my opinion, tried the same problem. these are serious problems, but why do they
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do this, do they understand that this is the territory they are going? although they wish they would not participate in this it will do in russia yes konstantinovich to you great. thank you. we we are following developments. uh, and i remind you, we talked with konstantin gavrilov , the head of the delegation of the russian federation on issues of military security and arms control. uh, weapons are being supplied, uh, everything, in greater quantities, as we have just discussed uh, and this is manifesting itself on the line of contact. i like the name of the front line better. still. perhaps this is a more accurate definition. but what is it called? uh, term question. we have. uh, denis pushilin is a jew in touch with the head of the dpr denis, i understand that the situation on uh, the line of contact is
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our official terminology, but what about the situation? we can now say that in many areas of e, there is a positional confrontation, but the line does not change significantly in either direction. eh, and that's satisfying. uh, the tasks that are at this stage. e to reflect attempts. uh, the enemy is counter-offensive and uh, we fix daily large number of destruction. e, both the personality of the enemy, and the direct destruction of a large amount of equipment. it can be separately noted that, a in several directions. uh, as a result of the reflected attacks of the enemy, our units are improving their positions, can we
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say that? kiev direction, this can be said about the krasny limansky direction. as for the ugledar direction, this situation. eh, it remains such that the enemy. uh, well, every day takes at least five attempts to attack our positions, but uh guys really. eh, that’s all, they endure and also, but the destruction of the enemy continues, what about the artyomovsk direction near artyomovsk is still under fire, which makes it difficult? uh, any kind of restoration work or, let's say, a stage of the examination stage. there is not even an opportunity to proceed to the full extent, and on the flanks the situation is also difficult, but controlled by the enemy. eh, still trying to achieve at least some success for some, and the enemy's time periods are given out. uh, even
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uh, really. divisions, but it's not uh some kind of dol for a long time occurs and with heavy losses the enemy is forced to retreat, and from the position, and in the maryinsky direction, a rather serious confrontation also continues. but as well as we see that the enemy is in large numbers. e bear losses, but speak now. about what kind of change this is, the line of contact is not there , but the krasnaya liman direction. as there? the red direction there is probably the most, uh, significant change. that is , if we take it in comparison, we fix our unit repels enemy attacks, and almost on a permanent basis, they improve
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their positions and are fixed in new positions. this is not expressed there, unfortunately, in entire liberated settlements or tens of kilometers away, but taking into account the intensity of hostilities, every 100,200 there is 300 m. this is a very good result, given that the military command is now focusing on saving personnel and er, just pulling the enemy out, but destroying such equipment as manpower. i understand that we were talking about weapons that supplied. as i understand it, yes, there are problems with warehouses with stocks. this is a separate issue, but the current situation suggests that there is no problem with shells with ammunition. unfortunately, i understand correctly, alexander, look here, uh, you need to look a little wider, and we saw how much ammunition. how much equipment, and the western countries sent, on the eve
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of the counteroffensive against ukraine, and what can now be said in approximate numbers, but, that is , destroyed there, well, in the region of 30%, and at the same time of course, to say now that this, uh, this can already be put an end to. well, it's still too early, because the supply of weapons continues , the supply of weapons from western countries continues, probably. there was some kind of intensity with such intensity before the counteroffensive, but nevertheless, deliveries. we fix plus we see the never-ending wave of mobilization in ukraine where all the boundaries are already crossing there, but uh, nevertheless. uh, the enemy reserves are still uh and despite the fact that they are demotivated, despite the fact that they are not prepared, a thrown on the front line, but still, for now, in quantity. er, well, i mean, they have an opportunity. uh, at least make
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attacks, let them be unsuccessful, but nonetheless. this still requires special attention from our units. and, of course, taking into account the tasks that it is necessary to protect the trains personally, but we don’t see, well, there are some significant changes on the front line, but the situation is exactly like this, i don’t know, well , it’s clear that we are definitely ours. guys, they knock out a lot of things, but that's fair notice comes further weapons. unfortunately, and as i understand it, these weapons are enough to shell civilian cities. and i understand that the picture does not change here. unfortunately too. alas, here alexander's picture does not really change the opponent at every opportunity. ah, he is trying to harm civilian infrastructure with residential housing construction and we will continue to set fire to a number of settlements, including
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four districts of donetsk on an almost permanent basis, takiyevo kuibyshevsky petrovsky kirovsky district. donetsk is yasinovataya is a, the chernogvardeisky district of makeevka is gorlovka. well, the nikitovsky district is mainly a and. a. some kind of elena. these are just those settlements that are under intense enemy fire. and if we speak in numbers, then at first it was 22 years, but we recorded damage to residential housing construction of 11.5 thousand. and if we talk about civilian infrastructure, then these are 2,786 objects. er, i mean, that's a lot. what we see are targeted, but such strikes from the ukrainian armed forces. so what is supported? unfortunately, on the part of western countries, there is no uh, well, and somewhere it is even encouraged and there is not even any kind of
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media shouting. there, in terms of the fact that uh hmm it is forbidden there by conventions , something is forbidden, in general, some kind of sensible logic, that this is devoid of any military meaning. unfortunately we don't see it here. there is definitely no logic here. it has long been difficult to expect this logic from the kiev regime, but i understand that all this makes it difficult. uh, housekeeping issues renovation of the apartment. well and so on, restore the infrastructure in full. of course, we have not yet approached the restoration of our uh of our cities in the districts. why because we say it, but in order to fully deal with these issues, you need to move the enemy away so that he physically does not have the opportunity to shell our settlements, but at the same time we can say that the largest construction project in russia has already been deployed on the territory of the donetsk people's republic and now
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there are about 35,000 builders on the territory of the republic who are engaged in restoration, and this is not only mariupol, this is not only volnovakha, this is also our other settlements, but near the historical territory of the donetsk people's republic, this is the restoration of schools, kindergartens and hospitals, and again, but houses that are under shelling. it could just be a defective repair. this is somewhere the closure of the thermal circuit. well, i'll tell you that now the chef's regions are actively involved, and preparations for the autumn-winter period. why because there is a lot of work to be done, but in order to fully and fully readiness to approach the cold season, so here it only remains to thank the chefs of the regions, who understand all the difficulties and approach the solution of this issue with full responsibility. i don't know that i understand that problems with water remain both in donetsk and
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here. unfortunately, er, the situation is not changing. no, the situation, of course, has changed alexander , taking into account the fact that a water carrier was built , taking into account that it is increasing, and the volume of water that enters the donetsk people's republic and if we still cannot say that the water is supplied to the full features. e, in all areas of difficult areas, we cannot say that water enters the upper floors and it is enough everywhere, but here is the question. uh, not only in the volume of water, but in the deterioration of the networks, because we are now, uh, since july, we have actively begun to increase and, uh, the number of days to fall. that is, if we supplied water once every 3 days, that is , we had, alas, such restrictions, now in most of the district we have already switched to supplying water every other day, but this is also with the fact that the worn out network entails
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a rush, the pressure increases. gusts of the accident, which are eliminated on an ongoing basis, but in general we see that the situation is gradually improving and, of course. our job is to provide. now our cities are water supply areas in a daily format, plus what we already have by the hour. we are also gradually increasing the water supply, if it was 2 hours once every 3 days, then it is already every other day now and for 4-5 hours there somewhere in separate areas. he appears the opportunity to serve, even m-m large, but more hours, but difficult, difficult and we will decide. we completely solve this problem, only of course, as we said before, only when we completely liberate the territory of the donetsk people's republic and the seversk, donetsk canal, and it will work again. uh, as it was originally planned, when a plan was arranged to provide donbass with water. the only thing that you raised was the topic of
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overpriced medicines. we managed to improve the situation here. the work is carried out on an ongoing basis and complaints have been received, just i went to see for myself from the pharmacies that are located in medical institutions, and indeed this was recorded . explanatory work was carried out in a number of medical institutions. he does not mean the son of institutions about pharmacies and continues to be controlled from the outside. here, uh, our u people's controllers, let's say, who are constantly signaling. where something is wrong, well, to a greater extent, the situation began to improve and the task is simple, so that in pharmacies that are located in hospitals and medical institutions. the price was exactly the same as in other pharmacies the situation is changing for the better. this i can already say for sure, but, that is, according to the reports that i get. another topic
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, uh, the city of snezhnaya, you put things in order there in the administrative sense, if there are some things that, uh, unfortunately, are typical for other settlements, what conclusions? did you do it for yourself? alexander here uh, the question is as follows ah. in our country, every city and every district of the republic is now facing a lot of problems, and this certainly leaves an imprint on the leadership of the city, the city administration or district, and here it is important not to hide from problems. that is, it is important to hear people here , it is important to communicate. it is important to inform people here. and, of course, show. uh, additional, perhaps, a resolution initiative. there those problems that exist and the biggest problem. if, uh, the leadership of a city or district, well, solves problems and does not hear people, but
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given the fact that we are now a subject of the russian federation, russia is a socially oriented country, and here it is important that there is no distance between the authorities and people. and so, of course when or do uh complaints in such quantities and snowy. ah, of course, it was necessary to intervene to the fullest, especially in the part where m-m-ah the complexity remains with families. ah, our e, dead servicemen. this is unacceptable. and this, perhaps, has become such a last point, because the roofs are leaking and the roof, if they are not repaired for a long time, no steps are taken and the regions are not involved, and this should be the initiative of the local authorities, if complaints, but they answer with replies, this is unacceptable, but people are ready to help, people are ready to hear people are ready to wait, but only if
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they understand and they see what the local authorities are doing. uh, what kind of work do they do, so here the emphasis absolutely needs to be shifted to people, that is, a person should be in the center of attention. and, of course, there are many questions, that is, uh, this is not only a household plan, but it is also other support measures. this is another explanatory work. these are, of course, permanent outcomes of citizens, which allow identify any uncharacteristic uh difficulties or shortcomings there. well, like, for example, here in nizhny. hmm but some problem was revealed there, people want to pay utility bills. and there is only one cash desk or there is one bank branch where they can do it, so people, in order to pay for utilities, have to queue there for 4-5 hours, and at the same time i receive reports that there are weak utility payments somewhere
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