[000:00:00;00] and between the baltic and black seas, in addition to poland itself , ukraine, belarus, the entire baltic, as well as yugoslavia , hungary, romania and czechoslovakia, were to enter the new association, called between moree, in addition to poland itself. in 1921, under the rule of poland , a significant territory of western ukraine and western belarus was settled by non-poles . at the beginning of the second world war, the project between the sea was forgotten, but in 2009 it resurfaced in materials of the american analytical agency stratford in connection with poland's active support of georgia during the august 2008 war, according to the wikix website. between the sea was mentioned in

emails. almost 400 times, and since 2012, the term has been used publicly by its founder george friedman, who wrote that poland should have distanced itself from the eu and formed a bloc with the rest of the countries of central and eastern europe in 2016 in croatian dubrovnik, a new alliance , the initiative of the three seas, arose a new concept cooperation between the countries located in the region between the baltic black and the adriatic seas was put forward by the president of poland. duda a year later in warsaw at the second summit of this organization, donald trump said that the united states is striving to provide more access to alternative energy sources so that its neighbors will never again become hostages of a single energy supplier. so the courtyard became a common polish american project for the supply of liquefied gas to europe 2 months before

the start of the russian special operation in ukraine newspaper columnist, polish dzheyja borchak tower called on shava to recreate the former power of the commonwealth at the expense of russian spheres of influence, according to the author, thanks to the clash between russia and the united states, warsaw had a unique chance to squeeze moscow out of its spheres of influence in belarus and ukraine in february 2022 for 5 days before the start of the special operation , the youngest son with the president's big name, mark brzezinski, became the us ambassador to poland, who announced the construction of more than a hundred military facilities in the next 10 years. here, proceeding from such psychology of danger. which there may be a role in eastern europe in the future of the european system, the hmm european structure is a structure in which the united states plays an important role uh all eastern european countries in solidarity and uh, very consistently proceeds from the fact that

the main guarantor of their security, and the main instrument. their influence is the united states they uh follow uh dutifully in their course and uh no no reason. to think that their influence will decrease or it will uh change, in fact in this sense, they will only increase. e your influence. well usa accordingly should be interested to see strange eastern europe play a big role. this is a european theater of operations for the united states is gradually becoming secondary and they need to have a fist. here are such quite reliable obedient ones, and the french sometimes buckle there. uh, of course, the germans need to be controlled from the point of view of american politics. they have a friend. hmm at some point. uh, something's going to happen. there is an alternative for germany

and something else, uh, eastern european countries. eh, nothing like that is expected. they are reliable. uh, partners, the united states in this sense, and poland are ready to simply guide the interest of the united states, an ambitious country with its own goals, these guys. still, e is not without. what kind of element of adventurism is this? that is, they are ready to play, and they themselves, as it were, leaning on the shoulder on the strength, hmm , but they always proceeded from the fact that a clash with russia is inevitable. it was a military clash that they were preparing for war, and that this war is now taking place. uh, to the east of this border, nothing is cancelled. they kind of don't think that it's the end of e in this sense. it's a combination of e, on the one

hand. uh, like a hard experience, uh, but on the other hand, some really well-established people of eastern europe . -european peoples. and uh, there he says that a very important feature of these, uh, small nations is existential fear, that is, uh, sort of, absorbed from experience a historical feeling that, as it were, uh, but this state that you consider yours may not be, uh, on the next branch

of history, that is, this fear. uh, hmm , feeling insecure all the time it u influences the elite's behavior. in the polish case, uh, it seems to increase some of the adventurism of their policy, i told you. uh, because there in the thirteenth year, they understood that it was going to be a big conflict. they understood this in the thirteenth year, and they also acted a little on the principle of knitting and we'll see. but actually, that is, for them what happened next was not such a big surprise thanks, we had a story like alexey miller in the week they started talking about a new phase of the ukrainian

offensive to discuss the senseless fog of war of such intensity as now , perhaps, never happened. now it is disguised as an unprecedented openness and reliability. from which everything is only becoming cloudy, fierce hostilities have been going on for more than a year and a half, one way or another, covering many states. what does all this mean for the world's military-political prospects? our friend dmitry stefanov co-founder of the wattford project. dima hello , good. here is a well-known phrase that the generals are always preparing for the last war. here. i don’t have it, experts have the opposite feeling now that they were preparing just in time for a future war, but it turned out to be something like the past, but at a new technological level it is. well, it's actually a common phrase. i would put the emphasis here in a slightly different way. we were preparing, probably, for another war, not for the future, nor for the past, but simply for another, but suddenly it happened. everything is a bit old fashioned. here although

, of course, adjusted for the new technical level. eh, how right? it is noted that it turned out that we are back to some extent, i apologize in the era of the diesel bank, which is very closely associated with cyberpunk from in fact, this genre is related. here is one hope that we do not reach. yes, there is punk, of course, but in fact, some innovations take place to be a completely different level of transparency. that is to say, all his clothes are talking about, well, this transparency it does not mean that there is no contradiction. there is probably the most important thing - this is what everyone saw that we have, uh, everything is decided at such a completely industrial level and despite the transition, let's say for a real society. here, although on the other hand again. fields with the target of new and old ukrainian military crowdfunding, which consists in the fact that for a few dollars you can leave a message on a projectile that flies towards russian positions. it is too.

in general, about our post-meta society, nevertheless, people who are responsible for everything. they have to e even in the process to adapt all the time and we can already say that some notable conclusions have been drawn about how to conduct now. oh, to be honest, there is probably such a conclusion, a very global one, or something, which does not even relate directly to hostilities. this is something that should not be underestimated by your opponent and concerns of this all are not very new such. unfortunately, everyone steps on this rake time after time. e, underestimating the enemy, overestimating your knowledge and ideas about him. here, and this also applies to such, absolutely non-technical categories, such as, for example, for whom the conflict is more important, for whom the stakes are higher. that's why it's not very clear to do this, but nevertheless , everyone discusses it over and over again. here. well, as for the more technical side, then probably the most important conclusion is that you need to adapt. you need to adapt not only on the battlefield,

you need to adapt your own industry. own economy. actually logistics is another matter, which again is not always used should in a way, everything depends on specific people, that is , so far no one has succeeded in achieving the application of all technical innovations harmoniously. although some, of course, bright events take place, but in the end, of course, everything is decided. uh, thousands of tens of thousands of units of armored vehicles of military personnel and wagons of shell templates. now shots from the presidential service. let's start our evening. part of the work i am very happy. to see you as agreed, let's talk about issues and problems related to the conflict in ukraine

during our previous june june meetings. here in st. petersburg. you and i discussed in detail the situation leading up to the conflict and exchanged views on the path of a possible settlement. the president of the republic of south africa , armofoza, as one of the authors of the african peace initiative, voiced the specific proposals contained in it. we have carefully analyzed the views expressed by our african friends and considerations. we take this very seriously, not with much attention. i hope that you, dear colleagues , understand well the nature and origins of this

crisis. in any case, we tried to convey our vision of this problem, we believe that the problem did not arise yesterday and was provoked by some forces in the west , who for many years, preparing for a hybrid war on our part, did everything to turn ukraine into a tool to undermine the foundations and security of the russian federation to damage russian positions in the world. yes, and to undermine our state. i say this with good reason. this is the first second thing i would like to draw attention to today in at the beginning of our discussion , the president of the european union said the words to which i drew attention, and i will quote them now. you said, dear colleague, that we are against

coup d'état? i fully agree with this. we, too, but the second problem that led to today's crisis. this is just a coup in ukraine in 2014. it was precisely the state anti-constitutional armed coup d'état. which western countries actively supported. at the same time , they disregarded all norms of international law and openly said publicly that that they supported this coup, even she flunked the amount they spent on it. without any hesitation, but i know that you sincerely seek to punish possible assistance in achieving a just and sustainable solution to the conflict, and we , of course, greatly appreciate your balanced approach, as well as the fact that you did not and do not

support the anti-russian rhetoric of the anti-russian campaign . and if that had happened, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. of course, we, of course, are impressed by the position that put forward the initiative countries that the principles of the charter it should be respected and pretended to be life in its entirety and the relationship really should not be up to the double standards of unilateral sanctions of attempts to ensure our security at the expense of others today we are told that we are violating the charter of the united nations i don’t think so . on the contrary, i am sure that we acted in full compliance with the joints in 2014, the ukrainian authorities began hostilities, in fact, against part of their people, heavy equipment tanks

against those who did not agree with western-backed coup d'état in 2014. that's how the west started the war in ukraine, that's how it was. and it's impossible to deny it. for our part, we have done everything to resolve this crisis peacefully by signing. having participated in the signing of the so-called minsk agreements, which the kiev authorities derailed, did not comply with these agreements with support. the west did nothing at all, and moreover, they later announced that they would not comply with these agreements. we were forced to recognize independence from individual territories. and for eight years we did not recognize the independence of these newly formed republics for eight years we tried to achieve a peaceful settlement. so we

recognized independence and signed with these newly formed state treaties of friendship, cooperation and mutual assistance. all within the framework of these agreements. there are no violations here. but our western partners have forgotten how they acted in iraq, destroying the statehood of this country. and in the end. liquidated adam hussein, they forgot how they acted in libya without any e, the decision of the un security council, they forgot that they destroyed the situation in sudan. they forgot that they invaded syria. they didn't care about the charter. they

only think about international law when they think that these tools can be used against someone. in this case , they will not succeed against russia. it's too primitive. if they want someone to comply with the charter and other norms of international law. let them work comply with the same rules of law. but this nevertheless does not mean that we do not want and do not strive for the peaceful resolution of fish pores, and your approach and your ideas for settlement. we, as i said, we have carefully considered this, by the way, echoes the provisions of the peace plan presented in february by the chinese analogues of the republic in regulating the situation around ukraine, well, at the same time. it is also good. it is known that

the kiev authorities issued a special regulatory framework, even a decree was issued by the president of ukraine prohibiting negotiation. for our part , there are never negotiations. we have always said publicly that we are ready to offer a dialogue . let me remind you that, as i said about this at your previous meeting. in st. petersburg, it was actually agreed on the drafts of this treaty, for example, after the withdrawal of our troops from near kiev, she was asked to do this in order to create conditions for concluding a final treaty, the kiev authorities abandoned all previous agreements. uh, so on i believe the ball is completely on their side. and, of course, i won't talk now. about

the details of what we agreed on. probably this will not be very correct, but let me remind you that not everyone knows this, but we know well that kiev gained its independence during the collapse of the soviet union on the basis of a declaration of independence. and in this declaration it was written in black and white that ukraine is a neutral state. and for us it is of fundamental importance. why the west began to involve ukraine in nato is not very clear to us , this is what creates, in our opinion, a fundamental threat to our security, because the advance is the infrastructure of the military bloc, which is actually tuned in to us. hostile to our body is unacceptable, there are other issues that need to be resolved. but, of course, we can talk about this in more detail in the closed part of our

meeting. thank you for your attention. please mr african union chairman thank you very much indeed. we have already discussed many things. today we would like to see how things are going and how the president of aromaphos, as he is the initiator, then, probably, the floor

should be given to him. thank you mr president sumani, greetings again mr president putin greetings to my brothers who have joined us. we are

very pleased. oh, that's all, thank you for in this format, we would also like to thank you for describing the issues that are on the agenda for several weeks, and also came out of such a short presentation with such an overview when we came to the meeting were with you at a meeting with the president zelensky and as we said, then we said that we are probably the only group that can talk to both sides. and you yourself confirmed this to you discussions.

it's nice that we have the opportunity. would like to see compared the world. we all act in support of peace, and in many ways our coming here is also evidence of this. we collectively, as african countries of cooperation with russia, we cooperate with the whole for the sake of areas, what gives us the opportunity

to conduct a dialogue with you about peace, since the revolutionary countries? one to support is process, and we want

to support the peace process in the world, but the fact is that this conflict directly affects us now. we have already told you that food security problems are being created. fertilizer prices have risen. the cost of living has also risen in many of our countries. what is interesting is humanity, as well as the peoples of russia and ukraine responsible compared to the world we believe that this conflict should be resolved peacefully. we understand, based on your explanation, the origins of this conflict, we we understand how it started, where it started along with the fact, we were very pleased

to hear what you note. and many of these conflicts were resolved peacefully on the basis of negotiations, it is

this experience that prompts us to call for dialogue and negotiations. i believe that we have the right to call for peace based on this, since this is the principle that we firmly believe when we informed you that we are as african countries. shipi we believe that these principles must be respected and we are very pleased that you, uh, just said that you share the same position, it was also nice to hear

that our ideas resonate with yours and the pants coincide with those ideas that were put forward by other countries. particularly china when we met last time. we said that our initiative should in no way be seen as a substitute. any other initiatives on the contrary should be considered as an initiative. we support other proposals tonight we will it is interesting to hear your reaction to

a number of the proposals that we put forward in the framework. uh, closed all the series personally said that you carefully considered those proposals that were

confidence i hope in the framework of y and agility and you and i agree that this is the best way forward in this context. we are like african states. would like to play a constructive role to see. how can we best assist in making