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no suffering, no great sacrifice, no blood shed by our peoples. this struggle was accompanied by tears, fire and blood. we are deeply proud of our struggle. it was just and noble, necessary for deliverance from the humiliating slavery imposed on us by force. this fiery speech in threes from lumumba was delivered on june 30, 1960, on the independence day of the congo officially, recognizing the new status of the former colony, counted with the help of the pro -belgian elite, to maintain control over the main congolese wealth of its resources speech, lumumba's delegation, headed by king vodouin, decidedly did not like you, that
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this is completely over from now on. the republic of the congo is proclaimed and now the fate of our dear motherland is in the hands of its people and confidently declares that the result of the many years of struggle for independence will be the economic and political sovereignty of the congo he was a man who believed in africa who believed in the congo who said we will show the white man what we are capable of a black man when he is free and independent so he believed in the value of a job well done work, that is, without corruption. he believed that the wealth of the congo should return to the congo to work, so that there would be a social good for the whole society and that a working person would eat as much as then on his letter? the straightforwardness and uncompromisingness of lumumba
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did not please many, both inside and outside the country. african lenin the phantom of freedom the leader and the embodiment of the devil he was so positive and good for me, but for his opponents he was bad. and it's always interesting to know all points of view. he enlightened the population conveyed information, which fight should be introduced? that's why it had to be eliminated, he sounded others. so they couldn’t be manipulated, they tried to bribe him, but he refused. while others agreed, he was not submissive, so he didn’t bear fruit and ruined the plans of the west, so it was easier to liquidate him and continue to rob us against lumumba’s course , the president of kosovo spoke out an army mutiny broke out. and the richest in natural resources of the province of katanga,
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my belgian henchman from the chumba, even announced independence from the congo, belgium sends its troops to the former colony to restore order , prime minister lumumba turns to the un for help however, the blue helmets arrived. the prime minister himself was accused of destabilizing the situation in the country, then patrice lumumba turned to sir for help. however, time was lost, opponents were already preparing a plan to eliminate him; his assassination had already been adopted. he was a hindrance to their plans for the kongo , the connection with the soviet union at that time or the search for other ways to save the kong, this is perhaps additional reason to eliminate this person. he could have succeeded if the soviet union had saved his life in time, come to his aid. perhaps things would have turned out a little differently, so they needed to speed up the process of eliminating him.
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he died his native country for ideals. this country his fate matters at the african level. and when i see young people today who, let's say, create startups, they call it lumum balab. i feel a sense of pride. it is always touching, because in this country there is no teaching allolumbi at the school is now broadcast from the konstantinovsky palace. let's you
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raise your hands, let's start right on that flank. let's go artie please. thank you good evening, maximum story, the tv channel is glad that vladimir vladimirovich has money during the summit and at your meetings. er, the african leaders repeatedly recalled the strong relations that were created in the soviet union, and then and in connection with this, i have a question in the soviet era. our country has been the leading voice of national liberation and social justice for the whole world, including the african continent. what sense is very good, but the leading voice and the kalashnikov machine gun were much more effective at that time, so everyone remembers our specific assistance to african countries in the struggle
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for their liberation, including unambiguously now what sense does modern russia bring to africa if we to offer something to the african countries besides trade and economic cooperation and what kind of cooperation is in demand from africa thank you know me. i often think when i meet our american friends. i think about it what is it at some point in the soviet era. i remember it well in our society it has developed that we waste money in vain. to africa where is africa a lot? now, when you communicate with our friends, i think with gratitude to these people who pursued such a policy in africa. they created them. uh, such a powerful backlog
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of the strength of friendly relations with african countries that i don’t know if they themselves were counting on such a result or no. and this, of course, was done then, and now our attempts to work in the african direction are being made in the interests, first of all, of russia, and there are a lot of economic components here. let's start with economics. this is such a huge potential, it is growing, and at a very fast pace , exponentially, there are already one and a half billion people in africa, and this very young population is growing at a very fast pace. well, everyone knows well that there are mineral resources here. this is true. no. these are countries in asia uh-huh actually their uh reserves
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bring in the mineral resources of africa, you know, talented people are developing very quickly and yes, the poor people are still understandable. we know well, but progress is very hmm fast here we are you know we live. here we all live, as it were, here we go. well, look for this, too, in the morning got up for work from work home. and those who s- are engaged here professionally. well, including from the journalistic environment. these people, of course, do not see what is happening in the world, the world is changing rapidly. well, you see, you have such a potential. just a huge potential, i now i’m not talking about india, about china, everyone knows about it, brazil and africa are
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strange there, just leaders . you see, i really can’t say that the whole future belongs to africa, no, the world is diverse, but africa has a great big potential, therefore, of course, we must use everything that has been developed since soviet times. uh, these are very good trusting relationships. uh, and uh , to work in a new way, of course, yes, then they did a lot unilaterally, well , it was impossible in a different way, but uh, well, that's all plays in practical terms. well , let's say we built a lot of power plants built a lot of logical plants. e objects. they are just structures that require renovation of the development repair and on, our patriotic yes, even if it’s still a soviet power base, of course, for us, this makes it easier , cheaper and more efficient, this is just a real practical groundwork in which we must
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deal, in some places i went, but now you also know our african friends. they do not ask for any kind of filing, moreover , both on the first themselves and then in a two-way format between ourselves and him on this, many said, we did not come to ask for something. and it really wasn't a single direct request. here , give us that, give it to us. no, everyone, uh, is trying to find, uh, mutually acceptable and for both sides interesting projects. this is such a change, and a serious one, uh, but uh, everyone remembers what happened during their struggle for independence, and therefore these two or two and a half can be said to be 3 days. e i was very pleased. eh, that's realizing that i'm something different people. there are of course different countries and policies, but in the whole african continent is set to us,
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well, the highest degree of friendly positive. this is an important and important base on which it is possible to build business and business relations. we have a small trade turnover, but the potential is colossal, and moreover, people are interested not only there in grain , but also in something. i'll talk about it now. this is also important, because many people. there are still 600 million who do not eat enough. 600 million do not have electricity. no, but the potential is colossal and many are interested. this is not just grain, and agriculture, agricultural development, construction of enterprises, uh, new agricultural technologies, uh, agricultural machinery and construction of enterprises-producing fertilizer. not just giving fertilizer is also not bad, of course, but they want to build these enterprises, and they are ready, uh, to accept
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relations and to give our uh, our business the opportunity to develop and build there. a number of earns in this market for the same concerns, energy and nuclear energy energy is in demand many countries have come up to use nuclear energy and they want it and can do it, uh, they are interested in development in the field of space. really works in this direction. you know, after all, all over the world, developing countries in asia look just recently. it was hard to imagine some states flying in space today. all. this happens very quickly and should not be missed. especially if we have such a colossal backlog of the soviet era. the atmosphere was. well, such a very relaxed, well, friendly in the full sense of the word. uh, people want probably work. well, we must, of course, do everything in order to uh, to
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move, so she will not do it. yes, i have already named some areas of activity in the sphere of economics. well, of course, where possible , we will support on e-ma and provide humanitarian assistance, and so on. hey, very much in demand. mm. uh, working together on security africa is still suffering from terrorism and in many regions in many countries this is a problem. well, in order for the economy to develop well. we you and i know well that we need stability in domestic politics, and stability is impossible if they are provided with security, uh, therefore, in this regard, they sincerely want to continue working with us, including in the field in the eu, and they are not afraid of some kind of pressure they work and buy weapons , and in our universities of the ministry of defense , tens of hundreds of military personnel and
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countries are trained. hmm. they study with us. well, it’s also a good start for the future, i mean that when people of military professions return to their place, after all, contacts remain, contacts, a level of trust, certain their ability to work to fight on our technology. so the next step is vts, supply of equipment. and uh, as we do say in india. yes, many are now asking questions and ready. they are technologically ready to start production on their territory. that is, uh, in principle, uh, there are a lot of areas of contact where we could be useful to each other and african countries repeating times. they say so, we did not come, we are looking for local interesting ones in mutually beneficial projects. well, finally,
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international affairs of work on international platforms, and they well, what is it sometimes in our support as and as a country of a permanent member of the security councils and many recalled, to be honest, to be honest, i myself have already forgotten that mine was supported somewhere, and they remember, they don't forget it, so thank you. here they did. they supported us there. well, yes, please, i remember later, they only really supported, but on our part, after all, we are also very sincere. uh, to africa, you know , there is such a well-known such a well-known rule we do love. a person for what they did good to me and hate if we harmed him, but this makes a lot of sense , because we are reflected, as in a mirror in a person, depending on what we did for him, we did something the good we look at remember her.
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so we are pleased. oh, how well done she is. oh, what a good , some kind of disgusting thing they did to a person, we look not a bad person, because we ourselves are not good. in this case, we ourselves remember that we did some kind of disgusting thing. that's what concerns africa well us we have nothing to bend ourselves down with respect to africa , uh, we do a lot of useful good deeds. and when we communicate with african leaders, and they themselves talk about it, it feels like we are decent people, and in this case, the way it is and it is very good. so let's continue with a plus. let's ria news. let's go right here, please. hello ria novosti olga samsonova and vladimir vladimirovich , please tell us the details about yesterday's night meeting on the ukrainian problem, in general, what questions were of interest to our african partners?
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have we managed to come to some denominator and will we generally put into practice the peace initiative, uh , african countries, or at least some separate provisions from it, and maybe, and not abandon it ourselves . and since we received assurances from us that we will supply them with grain to countries in need, including for free. thanks no, one has nothing to do with the other. but when we talk about the fact that the soviet union refused to help african countries in the struggle for independence. it doesn't even forget that at that time ukraine was part of the soviet union and, in general, ukraine is, well, good. and sincerely. i generally stress they are sincere. uh, they are thinking about doing something so that the conflict is stopped, they do this not only and not so much under pressure from outside, but based on motives from within, some studied there in ukraine
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, which means, uh, really, they studied in russian is, naturally. here and uh, hmm nationalists. uh, they didn't like it in ukraine. so yes, and now some told how they were treated then by the nationalists, like any peace initiative. it is good in that it is aimed at finding a peaceful solution to the conflict. are there things that, uh, that after our meeting in st. petersburg how many a month and a half ago? by this provision, so to speak, or into points, this is the world of initiatives, they are being implemented, they are, it is true, being implemented in this way and that way, but nevertheless, there are in these initiatives, and there are 10 points in total. uh, here is one of these points - this is an exchange of prisoners, and
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for an exchange held by persons, resolving issues family humanitarian nature, related to children and so on, but you know, this is actually an inflated story with child abduction. well, let's explain, there was simply no kidnapping. there was an attempt and specific actions aimed at saving the children. well, uh, who were being taken out of the war zone . well, why leave orphanages there under artillery strikes, or what? of course they took the kids? well, there are cases when, uh, the family broke up, uh, somehow some family problems, one parent lives in ukraine, and one turned out, here he is a specific case, there is a mother with lived in russia, mother passed away, died. well, it’s just that some one fell ill with something, and the father remained in ukraine, the child was alone. well, of course, we are ready to give this child as a father. well, here there are no problems at all, this is a fictional story. we
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explain this and say what we have. uh, so, uh, children's commissioners. i was surprised lonely called shadow the last name of any white. i was so taken aback , you know, they know about it. ah, that is people. sinking, you know, for them it is not indifferent. and, and therefore, and here, well, this is one of the points. yes, but there are things that, well , are difficult to implement or have not been implemented, for example, uh, there are 11 ceasefire points. they attack the ukrainian army. what is called implementing a large-scale strategic offensive, we still have to apply for a ceasefire. we can't cease fire when it comes to us. yes, and this is what i say. well, people will think, for example, to start peace negotiations. and we didn't refuse. you yourself you know, i keep saying that we have never given up on the world of negotiations, but if there is a decree signed there, you will
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prohibit negotiations. there is a decree forbidding negotiations. no, we refuse. well, people thought so and looked at each other. but how can they insist on this so that, er, this process begins, it is necessary that both sides agree on some other things, a simpler initiative. in my opinion, maybe , uh, it should. newsletter of some processes aimed at searching for peace also like others. well, for example, in chinese. yes, they do not pretend that their initiative came into conflict with others, or competed with others, but in general, the conversation was a long subject. what time did we talk for an hour and a half or two, perhaps? uh-huh everyone spoke, so the question. well, i want to take it again. uh, it
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was. that's absolutely friendly positions exactly the real thing. eh, the real search for some ways, but the search for some opportunities in order to sort of thin out. let's move on. let's channel one right away. thanks a lot. and to you, prozorov of channel one, in continuation of the ukrainian theme, vladimir vladimirovich, we know that you are hourly in touch with combat units even here and receive information about the installation at the front. actually directly from the front and the situation. now is not a simple completely bloody. excuse me, please interrupt. i don't see honestly. uh, i don't consider command and control my business. this is wrong, even harmful, and then hourly, because the people who
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are on the front line. they have to use only special means of communication. otherwise, it is unacceptable from the point of view of ensuring their safety. but of course, i try not to try. i am aware of what is happening there several times a day, but i contact the leadership of the ministry of defense, if necessary, and with specific units, here i am yesterday after all the events. i spoke from the commander of the 58th army, uh, that means also with the commander of the seventh regiment, the fighters, whom they distinguished themselves 2 days ago. uh, they really distinguished themselves in battles back in the industrial zaporozhenny direction said with e, the commander with the commander of the 810, damn it, marine brigade of the black sea fleet. i talked to them. yes, i talked. well, of course, they reported to me about the situation at
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the moment when we talked to them. it was already two o'clock in the morning. i even regret that i call late, because the guys need to sleep at night. here, uh, but nonetheless. uh, talking to them, they reported the situation, but the purpose of the call was their personnel for what they did in the course. was afraid of the previous day but, but hourly it is not, and it would be wrong. nevertheless we are aware of your involvement in the process, and the deployments at the front and let me clarify these two days since you commented on the operational situation. nothing has seriously changed, no major changes, and uh, i think this is due to the fact that the enemy withdrew his assault units instead of restoring combat capability. they suffered heavy losses in
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technology, but now there are some changes. what they are, and they bring people to the forefront on the armor and throw out their technicians disappears immediately. well, apparently the technique is afraid of losing it. of course, people under the blows of our artillery, tanks and so on. well, this is now this is the change like this in the last few days. well, because uh, well , we don’t see it, but it’s definitely completely connected, of course, with the losses of armored vehicles at this point in time, starting from june 4th. so i say, in my opinion, 405 tanks were lost , what we see only now is 415. well , more than 1,300 and units of armor of vehicles of different
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classes and 2/3. it's probably made in the west. here perhaps add more such uh active uh action like it was two days ago. uh, it’s not observed now, although they suffer large losses in manpower, but precisely because of a change in tactics. namely, i’m not exaggerating personally, the nipple is let down, the technique immediately disappears, we write in order to go on the attack, but hmm, of course, everywhere the enemy was stopped over the abandoned ones, moreover, on some, perhaps, you can add in the area of responsibility, not only beat off. uh, well, they themselves go on the counteroffensive and take away the ones necessary for our
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troops. here are two sections they have advanced. on one 15 km and about 4 to the depth . we continue. let's life please to the topic of the forum. you have repeatedly said that russia is ready to provide free grain to the poorest african countries. but is there a risk that the west, the so-called collective west, may technologically interfere with the delivery of food to the continent, you understand ? i'm not saying that from tomorrow we will start
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providing everything for free to everyone. no, because what was it about. e us, when the secretary general he is the lord in that it is necessary e to enter this so-called a grain deal and to assist in the export of ukrainian grain, uh, the main motivator for the un well, it was there for us it should have been that this grain would go, uh, to the poorer. the countries of the world, to uh, to guarantee uh guaranteed to save them from hunger really. i have spoken about this many times, which means that less than 3% of all exported grain is. well, somewhere in the region of three percent went to these poorest countries. well, what is it? uh, so given that none of the promises that were made to us to uh to facilitate the export of our grain and our
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fertilizers, for example, the market has not been fulfilled, we have repeatedly extended. uh, our participation in this so-called grain deal is not in the hope that these promises will be kept. well, once again we said no. now let's execute first, and then we 'll get back to doing the trade. but so that , uh, so that these poorest countries, they really did not suffer, so that there were no reasons. we are to be blamed for the fact that we are, that we are the guilty position of these the poorest countries. you said that in these poorest countries we are ready to start supplying free considerations. yes,
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and besides everything else, i must be honest here. when we announced that we were withdrawing from this grain deal, prices on the world market grew a little bit, which means that our company will receive more. this means we get more taxes. and if we receive more taxes, we will share some of our income with the poorest countries and supply a certain amount of food for free. do you understand, not to your own detriment? we announced that to make it go away, prices rose our company will earn more. income will receive more parts of a particle of this hydrogen will be shared. i see nothing bad here, not for us, not for the poorest countries that will receive grain here. yes, uh , about the fact that they interfere. eh, our ill-wishers, but don't bother you like that. we don't get anything. but, really, what's going on? yes, a little more
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