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unlimited. watch videos, listen to music. hello in the studio, ekaterina gracheva is a church and we are on the russia 24 channel on weekends and talk with representatives of the russian clergy, we talk about the main events that have taken place in russia in the world. today bishop savva vladyka of zelenogradsk is visiting me. hello, i'm glad to see you. i want

to start right away with your telegram channel and from a fresh post there telegram channel you have some kind of ergosum, for our viewers for those who haven't subscribed yet me already, which day readers ask. eh, write. why am i silent about us in france , everyone has already spoken out? and i am silent. tell me, ah hmm what do you think about the pogroms that are now taking place in france, yes, in fact, i read there are even proposals to lower, uh, the age of criminal responsibility for teenagers, because they yes, they are weapons in the hands of adults and the topic is manipulated by you you know, yes. well, as most may know. there, maybe not everyone, but ours viewers. i, uh, lived in france for an immigration environment for many years, then returned to russia , so, of course, it would seem, if not me, to comment. on the topic of what is happening now in france but in fact

i am carefully reading many of the many telegrams of politicians who speak here, france again, so to speak. e will soon die from france, everything has already earned what she e, as they say, so that she ran into that one , brought migrants to her. and now, so to speak, he is paying for it. a well, actually, uh, just like a few years ago, well, just recently. but remember there were these yellow vests, yes , which also rioted in france in the same way. uh, what is happening now is, well, from time to time in france this happens , pogroms begin, m-m noisy demonstrations begin. uh, very much. one of my buddies who lives there. in general, he cynically said that now these national pogroms will continue until they are killed. first man. well, he said harshly, now, as soon as they kill them, he will immediately roll them out, because

really it happens a lot there in france it's, well, the national sport in a sense, and what alarmed me in our reaction here are the people who wrote here, so about what you know, here is the scripture that you, uh, look on e. i drink in my own eye, and not at a straw in another's eye. we have a problem with migrants. we talked about this topic last time when you were visiting. in our country , the problem of migrants is very strong here in russia, and now, can we, uh, just as uh, well, let's say calmly, in fact, it is just as ironic to experience, but hmm, such manifestations of migrants, if they happen in our country, as it is going through, in fact the french. my closest friend and friend lives in one of the epicenters of the current pogroms. he says that his son's kindergarten has already been burned down there. he says his son doesn't go to kindergarten these days. he says, well, we haven't

burned the car yet. well, they can, well, somehow this is quite enough, well, calmly. and will it be exactly the same with us when i'm afraid sooner or later it will happen, and uh, modifications of pogroms will begin, and there are migrants here in moscow in russia, and we have a lot of migrants. we need to pay attention to ourselves and to what is happening in our country. mm to resolve this situation many many. uh, they say about her that it's time to resolve the situation with migration in russia and that not everything is enough. mary e is done as it should be, so what is happening in france, i think, well, they will make some noise. a little more and calm down. but what concerns me is that happening. here we have another event. what event would you like to ask you to comment on the head of the ukrainian raskolnikov, sergei dumenko , illuminated a new icon. well, what he called an icon called it with a weapon, and in the hands and god in the heart are depicted on it, and stepan bandera

, konovalians yevgeny roman shuevich. in addition to the fact that they were all nazi konovaltsy. as you know, he personally met with hitler and they were uniates. ah, m-m, all this is what, here is more such a sacralization of nazism, uh , performed by dumenko, or is it, perhaps a sign there strengthening uniatism is already clear. in which direction the schismatics will move in ukraine, i, of course, cannot get into my head. uh, hmm this comrade and understand what exactly he wanted to show by this, but the fact is that just like uh, this project is a dog, yes, the so-called orthodox church of ukraine and just like this project, like the project below - this is a project ultra nationalistic is the projects. and where religion is subordinated, and

ukrainian nationalism. and where are the projects in which there is a struggle with the truth of christianity with orthodoxy with the canonical orthodoxy. it is exactly the same way that uniotism was directed precisely against it. this is the preservation of the canonical true, and orthodoxy , just like dumenko’s own project is aimed at this against this, in order to subordinate, uh, religious feelings, feelings to nationalistic, therefore, uh, i repeat, i don’t know. uh, what exactly wanted what exactly wanted to show. uh, mr. dumenko with his actions. but the fact that it e set up perfectly. uh, similar to the mood of unitism. yes. this is quite obvious. well, you communicate with people who live in ukraine and priests and parishioners. and they have no reaction at all.

well, unfortunately, there are not so many opportunities to communicate with people in ukraine right now, simply for reasons of their safety, because if we start calling them or in some other way to communicate with them, but most likely. it won't be safe for them. yes, we have certain channels of communication. sometimes it is possible to communicate with one of them, through there different ways there, which are safe enough for them, but in fact , the opportunity for communication is great opportunities for communication, unfortunately, there are no people. they are literally being repressed for any contact with russia, including any contact with the mother church in russia, but those contacts that we have. yes, there are people who are very hard-lined, and hmm a hostile setting, but many people say. uh, well, as far as they can and we are informed about it. many talk about what they want

to keep. uh, this connection with uh with the russian orthodox church, the most holy patriarch. well , it's not always possible to do so. this is actually. this becomes for many subject. confessions, yes, that is, confessions of the faith, that is, many people, are really being persecuted there just because they somehow talk about a possible connection with, uh, with the patriarch, even if you just want to contact your telegram channel recently. you made such a post, m-th calculations from there i will read the national identity of russia is russian that is why, that the national identity of russia is russian will not sound wrong or offensive expression of russian wars as applied, for example, to a chechen warrior or a yakut warrior for the same reason, today one can talk about the russian army about russian, and not the russian north, russian, and not russian literature. ah, well, that's some time ago, ah. here

is the russian. yes, there the russian march is immediately equal to nationalism, chauvinism, there and so on. how did the change happen so quickly? i know that you made this post after shaman spoke there in yekaterinburg in front of school graduates. they actively sang along with his songs about russians. i am russian. i'm russian, yes, and uh, i understand that with this post you this is, as it were, greeting, yes, nothing like that, there you know ekaterina igorevna. first, i don't quite agree. now , the word nationalists is often used in a negative sense, but nationalism is , among other things, love for one's nation. yes, the nazis - this is a negative word nationalist after all. i don't think it should be that negative. well, it's philology. well, as for the word russian, well, somehow they reasoned. very close friends that not so long ago hmm, when a person said that

he was russian, that he emphasized this hmm this caused some sort of suspicion that he was there? maybe he's so bad somehow yes , indeed, there is a russian fascist. yes, and now, and hmm, the word russian really wandered around again. eh, some kind of greatness yes , i'm russian. what delight i think that this, well, is not least due to the fact that with the word e, russian e, people are now, but people are dying and howling and ready to shed their blood for being named like that for having the right to be called that and therefore yes, very quickly, but really big great suffering. this word has returned to our everyday life is thank god. and what do you think, participants from chechnya are ready to connect with russians , you know? well actually i'm told ya. well , that territory was not there, but they tell me

that yes, that the words russian wars are used quite widely, the russian army. not so long ago, i was very, well, so impressed by the speech of a chechen general about teloludinov. and uh, who heads, if i understand it, one of the corps there, which said that you, uh, are russians, multiply, because if there is a strong russian people. we all other peoples of russia will be fine. and if the russian people are weak, all other peoples of russia will feel bad for us. i think it's very. well, i was very impressed. this is expressed by the attitude of a person who is a chechen himself and a chechen. that is, he is not quite, well, not russian by blood, but for him it is, eh. this core value of the russian people was obvious. i hope that it will be obvious to us. well, look at the meaning of the word. mm nationalist or nationalism in your understanding you need to go to the origins, and it is not

always. e with a minus sign, and pacifism is since when. and now it’s already understandably dispersed into memes and so on, but let me remind you that for the first time the roc’s comment was made that pacifism was not incompatible with christian teaching during the church trial of the kostroma priest, who was tried for discrediting the armed forces well, or a deviation from the original text of the prayer, yes, and so what? here, how would you comment on your vision of this? why pacifism, and not in the paradigm of christian or orthodox teaching? first, uh, the circus is always praying for peace. yes, moreover, one of the commandments. eh, our lord jesus christ in the west of bliss. yes, so that the peacemakers i katya will be called the sons of god with bliss, and for so it sounds in the prayers that we read for every liturgy. we always pray for peace, eh, but pacifism is not desire. uh, peace,

as such, this desire for peace at any cost is a highlight, in fact it is an ideology. and this is not hmm the desire for peace between people, this is the desire for pacifism wants peace to come by any way, but whether we need peace in any way. do we need peace there at the cost of blood, and people in the donbass do we need peace at the cost of destroying russia ? er, well, all the other factors involved in the need for peace. she's swotting in one point. here, let us approach the world in any case, on any conditions, and it does not happen to a person who is listening to you now, but hmm, let's say, studying the scriptures. but as but if you were hit to the left, still substitute it in

the right. and you know what it is, first of all, it applies to you personally. now, if catherine will return you, he will hit you on one cheek, and you will turn the other cheek. this is your personal achievement. but by the way, we talked about this once already with you. if, for example, uh, they start beating a child with me, and i won’t stand up for him, then this will be, uh, well, a very strange act on my part, or if a and some person is on the street for me. and well , he will pester, well, or try to do something bad with a girl. but i don't intercede. that would be cowardice on my part and, uh, cheating. well, all those, uh, beginnings on which to build. well, including christianity, i have to protect my neighbor, too, so uh, and this is that pacifism, which is very strange, and recently in st.

imperial yes in russia were raised above the city. and you commented on this in your telegram channel and wrote that it would be nice to raise the fourth one. tell viewers. what is the fourth? yes, you know why, for example, the raising of the soviet flag causes warm feelings in you, the raising of the imperial flag caused warm feelings, because this is my childhood. my youth i, as i have already said today from the environment of white migration, therefore, and this is also the flag, probably of your ancestors. the youth of my ancestors, of course, yes. ah well actually thought about the empire i do not hide the fact that i am a monarchist minded person. here are the thoughts of empire always. well, it doesn't matter if they accompany me. how will our country develop in the near future, to what extent real or not, but there is no one and a sense of perception, but of the world, so for me to raise,

uh, the black yellow-white flag was, indeed, such an event, especially since, again, as we recently said. today we talked with you about the word russian of recent times. this flag was perceived by many. eh, many people comment on how the flag of the bad people of the russian fascists. and this is not so. this is indeed one of the flags of our country and. i'm glad that really a and this flag is officially in the presence. our state in russian was raised over well over st. petersburg, and it seems to me that the symbol of this raising of three flags was in what they unite several periods, the history of our fatherland, yes, and the russian tricolor is actually modern russia well, the soviet flag. it is clear time of the ussr and the imperial flag. uh, although it is clear that there are different flags in different periods. we had in during the empire. well, it doesn’t matter, it symbolizes, but the russian empire, so

it seemed to me that it would be good to raise, but the old russian banner. uh, this is the face of the savior yes on the red background, under which they are now fighting, in fact, our soldiers are one of those flags under which many are now fighting, he is one of the symbols. our current armed forces. and it seemed to me that it would be very nice to have this flag as an ancient russian banner too. rose to reflect that period of our history before the imperial. well, it's more likely. maybe it's such a good wish, maybe it will be, maybe it won't be. but me, well, yes, i repeat. it would seem to me that it would be beautiful, that is, in other words, not the fact that the hermitage is now busy, i don’t know who the winter winter palace is. i don't know who you are, who is there, what is busy. yes, but no, i'm talking about what really is, and now we have rather for many people who are now. well, well, it's scary not to be afraid to lay down your soul.

yes, you and i are ready. hmm every day. well, there are few people who are ready for this to expect, mm, the arrival of shells on their heads. and here are many people who, uh, are now there at the front, and every day they can meet like the last for many people. there it is, and the image of christ is. well, why do they go and i think. that this is a very important story for our state and this should be given more attention. hmm. what is now what and how do you think the emperor of the state of the russian sample 20-23 should be, how to differ from the president? i think this is a very theoretical question. i'm not ready to see it now. you say, what do you mean by imperial look, the representation of the figure of the emperor of the tsar for russia 20-23, and to him an anarchic look in

man. i think that an emperor is always and everywhere hmm must combine several qualities for russia, he, firstly, must be orthodox, well, in fact, and uh, the head of the russian state is now orthodox. and most importantly, he must love his people and be honest with his people. this emperor monarch yes in general is a person who is connected with his people, not just. m-th legal relations, and relations precisely trusting, uh, precisely relations. well, they say, yes, the king is the father, that is, the father of the relationship is just such hmm love and mutual trust, mutual respect. e. i think that in fact we are just another or yet, but we never will. e in such a state of legal consciousness, which will allow the restoration of the monarchy in russia after all. well, a lot of time has passed and hmm legal perception

has changed a lot. can it change back precisely to a strictly monarchical one? i'm not at all sure about this. it 's rather so well, the dream of a young man that i once had, in what modern western states it is very called , we see how it relates to changing examples. yes, he has come and gone. and like a cover, but magazines. but with what tears in the eyes saw off the queen or covenant? i would like to ask you to comment on some news. vladyka sala in the swedish city of malmö, the community of the russian orthodox church was expelled from the temple by signing a lease on this building. she was engaged in her twenties due to a citation of support for the russian church in ukraine and the owners stated that the lease should be immediate. disbanded for ideological reasons. a. well, by the way, in the same city, but at the beginning of the year not in the same city in sweden, it’s just that in this country at the beginning of the year they publicly burned the local koran even

did not condemn what is wrong in sweden. it is only the problem of the swedes with the russian orthodox church or in general with religious organizations is deeply unknown. here is the country. i was there, in my opinion, once in my life i was flying by flight, but in general. what do you need to say about what, and what about what? you need to have a clear idea that uh hmm that the confrontation, including the military confrontation that we are witnessing in what, including uh, has uh, a deeply religious component of some parts of western society is deeply opposing christianity. well, although in fact, even now we see that we see this in france, even in the united states of america , we now see how a part of society is rebelling against this anti-christian attitude, but in

general, of course, those who are now leading western society western countries. i mean, not specific individuals, there is a biden macron, or someone in general, er, these are those who are now directing western societies. yes, the establishment, let's say. so this is actually a deeply anti-religious class. uh, well, anti-christian in the first place, because uh, the foundations of uh, including europe and russia yes, christianity is also , therefore, not completely no wonder that such events take place, how is the burning of the koran, which is completely ugly, of course, but how the expulsion of religious communities their temples? well, look what is happening in the same ukraine that we discussed with you not so long ago today, when, indeed, the ancient christian community of the monastic community of the kiev-pechersk lavra. now it is simply

driven out of this ancient place. it's on really a very scary thing, that is people. mm, who lead the processes of political rights, well, anti-legal, i would say processes in ukraine, but they do not understand that by doing so they oppose themselves to god and, in fact, are there western civilizations, but this, by the way, also concerns us, if we somehow ever join this movement, but if western civilization continues to oppose itself to god, then we m-mine good, this will not end. we started the conversation at the beginning by mentioning the ukrainian greek catholic church. uh, and uniates, and i would like to finish this topic, and on the internet. in the social networks of the diocese of philadelphia , photos appeared where the girls in church vestments. eh, now, even if the image in the verses are near the altar, or they are right

inside, the altar is, i don't know, no, apparently , near the altar. and then immediately such a heated discussion. that's what is waiting for ukraine further, that is, at first they, uh, approved same-sex marriages. and here's the next step. now the woman will serve the liturgy, what is in this about think, have you seen these images? no, i didn't see the picture. uh, hmm, not very interested. you, well, heard something like that, but not interested in this situation, actually some form of service. uh, liturgical service , or including including women, and once there were so-called dikovitsy, and who once, mm, helped in that their main task was to help the priest at baptism. not adult women, for obvious reasons, it is better for a woman to be present and, uh, some moments delicate hmm well, i did, therefore there are some forms of liturgical service

of women in history, and then they lost their significance for various reasons, we will not now stand out in the historical liturka. and i think that e within the framework of our meeting. it would be difficult as well, but in this uh in this context. i think what a task uh, s uh, these are the priests who dressed these girls. well, maybe i don’t know absolutely wonderful girls who are very religious, but in the verses it was somehow, well, to adapt to more modern under the time. yes, we have feminism. here you need to go on about all feminism. and when hmm the church community is trying to go along with someone, as a rule. that's nothing good, but does not end. well, pretty fast. it gets confused, because the church has its own agenda. the church has its own tasks, and it should lead, and the people forward, and not try to follow different fashions, and therefore i don’t

think that this is what happened there. it's something good. it was clearly like that. well, trying to please, but the church isn't must try to please. it is, and today and yesterday and forever and ever, always the same god. thank you very much. vlad for always coming to our studio to answer our question. the british and french wanted to do everything they could to prevent war. my grandfather always considered an alliance with russia as the main condition for more than 20,000 people a day of biblo during the great patriotic war. we are at a very dangerous moment

in human history, what is happening in ukraine is the lessons of 2018, the june 22 edition is marked as the beginning of the german-soviet war. well, ukraine has nothing to do with the lessons of the past. otherwise, we will repeat it from history and make a decision on the basis. we'll take care of this. it will be the honest

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