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by the way, for the record, i must say that i was not present in the room where everyone spoke under video recording. i, too, at this time along the corridor and conducted scientific conversations. this is for the protocol. this is for the protocol. i'm just there bugged and for fun. i think that vitaliytovich set an interesting angle for considering such a historical civilization that he called the collapse of myths. i won't now. e, in. uh, the definition, so to speak, to dig in, but continued this reasoning, because that's what vitaly is a comrade. designated in my opinion, it crashed, even there 10-15 20 years ago, though not a spitting image, comrade. one of the first to say about the deplorable future of the european union, for
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example. yes, that's why it's so to say, well , in many ways, even the day before yesterday. but today, in my opinion, is very interesting, because what is collapsing now or has collapsed and these are not even myths and not pseudo-values and not patterns that must be imposed, so to speak, yes, but the norms and norms of the organization of society and policies that were reality, which are real. well, it was stitched together. well, look at america yes dima check me, please, as a specialist, but it was the same for a long time, the manager of the norm is unshakable. we can swear among ourselves in parties and clans all we want, but when it comes to uh, america's systemic vital interests all disputes stop and this is not the case, gem, not fixes for the people. yes, well
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, sociologists understood this, they talked about western society. the elite has an ideology about the population utopia and due to this, management is carried out. yes, and so it was genuine knowledge of how the authorities would arrange it, and now i say it has collapsed. i behold this design is genuine. mom, and instead of him there is nothing. but how many criminal cases have already been collected from trump there under a dozen in different states, well, maybe a little less everyone expects that the wallet will say, which will bring him to the hearing. oh, and this is a deadly war. yes, so to speak, according to the laws of new york , fucking new york, they should start shooting at each other's next step, but where did they all grow from, in fact, in three or four generations. yes, they all grew up. from there, where these laws operate, when they start shooting and lie down on mattresses. well, in principle, well, vladimir is
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right about the people, he says. well, because the people there have never had anything to do with power in america, you start from the moment of establishment constitution well, this or tactics, as you wish, this is the first. still other concepts are the concepts of world power, not only american. here 's a look how interesting the real authentic. well, in relation to our country , there was a very doctrine on which america staked a generation after the collapse of the soviet union. well , yes, the russians have nuclear weapons, let's not risk it. break when there are things that are superior let's not risk doubled, well we know for sure that in a confidential war against the united forces of the west, russia will not last even a month. this is a fundamental statement.
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the long-term american strategy around ukraine was built on this, it was necessary to draw russia into a confidential war, in which to try to build such bulkheads so that it would not turn into a nuclear explosion and into a constitutional war. that's what all computers do. so everyone was convinced to inflict a crushing defeat on russia. well count a trillion plus budget date trillions economic power, by the way, a myth buried during this year in your language they likely technological superiority. i don't understand that in certain types, in certain situations, there are lit subworkers and in certain situations there are, but in the strategic, so we generally have twice. so i ask where is
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the powerful building structure that allowed you to rule the world. they are within reach of american technological superiority. there are no 50 countries with this budget with this economic power with and let's pay tribute to the fired and mostly ready, uh, several hundred thousand mercenary troops die ukrainian specifically hired, because these unfortunates have never received so much money. how much are they getting now? well, who die for them. by the way, this physical army of these people is incomparable with any army of the western country in terms of the ability to be ready to conduct military operations of such intensity. well, i have experts here. if something corrects me in my program. i ask for it. yes, uh, because
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combat operations are not capable of such intensity with such mortality, this is the maximum. and i claim that it was a planned concept of an attack on us without an alternative to the previous concept of a preventive strike about well, when putin beat them in trials, they only had this scenario left. here is this ukrainian one, when the pro scenario did not work. and i must say what happened this summer in connection with this counter-nast, well, a grandiose event from my point of view, because this fundamental concept has been refuted . huge consequences for the whole world because for decades the whole world has been pumping everything with what the americans are able to figure out
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in a conventional war with any adversary, including russia and china, this is true, and this counterattack, dmitry gennadievich, i add to you, is now perceived so tragically and so pompeo squeals dreaming. where can we find gorbachev now where can we find a traitor there in russia to somehow get out, despite all the big words. they understand what happened and what happened is the merit of each of our soldiers, each of our officers of our armed forces as a whole and our people, who showed great patience continues to show it in this sense, well, the unity is armed. nykh forces and people of our country is what i refuted. it would seem that the fundamental and unshakable american
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concept of the consequences of this we will observe in the next month. the editor-in-chief of the worldeconomy building internet alexander sosnovsky sadj, i'm glad to see you hear. you know i'm in your telegram channel. yes, i'm sorry that we are on you, we are very close friends. uh, for which alexander flies all the time, but it happens, and in your telegram channel i saw absolutely amazing offer. everyone is talking about various peaceful initiatives of incomprehensible people, like zelensky there. i saw you very interesting. the peace initiative of a very famous person and a really great european politician is worthy of greatness. uh, how was it received? well, look, we are talking about the next case, he really represents a certain intelligent part of german society and his ideas or his thought
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was such. due to the fact that now everyone is shouting about, well, let's do something. let's have some ukrainian plans. here let's saudi arabia now everyone. invited russia and invite not invite, and his thoughts were as follows. he says, wait, wait, that is, some conditions are being formulated from the other side, on which they are trying to push russia away so that russia goes, and it’s not clear with those how all this is called in ukrainian zelensky’s plan, but we - that 's what we imagine. i mean his people, with whom he contacts the circle. and this is the circle, i would say, so conservatively, but among the minded citizens of germany, among which there are military men and there are politicians and analysts. but we imagine it all differently. we imagine that before talking about something with russia and russia at all, make some proposals. for this, certain
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conditions must be created, and he wrote here is such a seven-point plan for the wimer, which, as he, uh , suggests should be formalized in quality. uh, an absolute condition for any western proposals, if someone wants to, and drawing russia into resolving the issue through some kind of negotiations is not necessarily nervous on a grain deal on something else. he put forward several important points there, which , in his opinion, they should, but in the west everything is very well understood, he believes that without these points, russia will not have any negotiations. but it cannot, but russia will not conduct news and russia will generally not be obliged to consider anything else in any way. first, he, as a former leader, as a high-level politician, believes that the first thing that should be, of course, should be withdrawn, and any claims that relate to
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the leadership of the state. that is, this applies, of course, to vladimir vladimirovich putin, and he believes that no negotiations and no conversations can go on as long as it exists. some obscure papers, called the nare order, are connected there with something. this should be destroyed immediately and as fundamental conditions the second, and there should be, er, questions. e about sanctions should not be considered as a question of lifting sanctions against russia a. a return must simply be made, and peace to the situation that was before the introduction of these sanctions, because the imposition of these sanctions in itself is, firstly, illegal. secondly, it does not correspond to any, but to some kind of globally generally accepted format, to some rules, so this issue should definitely be resolved, and everything should return to normal in this regard. well, there are
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seven points. i will not list them thoughts and ideas. here is such a restoration of gas pipelines. that is, that they must be repaired, yes, they must be repaired, but i would continue like this what is not there in these paragraphs, but from my conversations with citizen bieber it is understood, of course, that he should not be restored at the expense of russia, but he should be restored at the expense of those countries or at the expense of those guilty who inevitably, uh, must be identified in in this situation, or at least a final decision should be made that nord stream 2 should be restored and not just. well, we know this. what to decide. this must be the remaining credit of the insurance companies, and the insurance companies must investigating the movement of claims to those whom they will consider guilty of this crime. quite right quite right, and here is
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the roadmap, it is proposed, it is proposed by the beamer. it's not just that it's offered. for that, high-level western politicians, well, starting, of course, from the german ones, since he is the former, uh, deputy minister of defense of germany, he was vice president of the osce parliamentary assembly. naturally , they will receive and have received these seven- point plans. they will work with him. they will be if they are, of course, this is also another question. they can do. and that they did not notice it, but no other possible ways. and i listened, it’s just that your discussion of the way of some kind of talk about something is impossible without resolving these seven points. even if not in full, but they should be put up, like a kind of road map, and opposing the so-called ukrainian peace plan, but
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it’s necessary that a rather powerful anti-war movement has begun in germany. that is, what the ruling circles of germany have been waiting for a long time now accuse their political opponents that russian children come to power there, or even though they are not pro-russian, they are more likely simply for independence, not for germany, for the economic interests of germany well, you know, uh. they know how to hang any labels and do it with pleasure. therefore, of course, now their main problem is, uh, such an increase in the popularity of the alternative party for germany , but i have already spoken about my attitude. i do not think that this is a russian party, as you noticed, but this party expresses. really. ah, so real. yes she accurately aware of the real state of affairs in which germany is located, and of course, when conversations begin in germany about where and how to go, they begin to talk, but this
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party is about russian . but today's newspapers, by the way, have been published. well, in russia they have not paid attention to this yet. i think that tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, there will be a wave published a large article by the german berlin senate, which complains that berlin has been flooded with russian agents of influence and that in almost any, if you understand this article correctly, what is in any? artificial organizations in all parties exist pro-russian. uh, pro-russian politicians, people they call spies who work for russia. i'm guessing that the second phase of the expulsion is starting, a diplomats. i have not yet read the decision of the german government, but it is no coincidence that this kind of material is published by focus magazine, which is known for its closeness to certain special services. this means that another scandal is being prepared, which is needed in order to so that, uh, these are the beginning movements
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towards russia in order to cut it off, in order to prevent it from developing, to find another kind of uh for germany will be banned. the alternative for germany can't be banned because it involves very big legal issues and uh, banning the alternative for germany. i think i understand it at all. e levels - this is tantamount to the phenomenon of civil war in germany is impossible, approximately 15 to 25 million people eat at a single moment to ban, but there were attempts to ban from other e radical parties of nationalist parties , which almost never succeeded, the german supreme court almost always overturned such claims, because it is very difficult to substantiate them, moreover, there is another big problem typical german. all these parties usually work. the so-called secret agents of the special services, and these secret agents - this is an old
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german tradition and they are many tens or even hundreds of years old, and when a showdown begins about the ban of a party, they will definitely come out. information about what's in these parties secret agents of the german okhrana were working, and according to the law, this means, in fact, we cannot ban the party in which our provocateurs worked, since they carried out the growth in the popularity of this particular party. this is a very serious question for german engineering. its impossible funny. thanks alexandrinovich. it turns out that in germany a party is considered pro-russian if it is at least anti-american, even if it is not changed a little. oh, well, by the way, i wanted to start from another point with this plan. and listen, well it's even easier for me to see each other directly . here's the whole plan. well, that is such a utopian somewhat, well, as a matter of fact. here i am reading in the following impression that he asks, says guys. return the pipe. and my grandfather is
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still old. let's name everything on the canoe. as if, yes, we'll confiscate his money there. well , the truth is, in addition to corruption, we will declare war on corruption misunderstandings, along the way, so to speak, there. well, maybe we will condemn someone from both sides and see what they will do. well , let's return the pipe for biden's money and we'll be back, as if everything was already good. we went somewhere where we had germany, which had the only one with a very powerful gas hub. and now the eleventh gas hub of our friends, the poles, in fact, yes, but it seems to have reached much. well, yes, yes, yes, yes there is. that's why this wimer's plan is such an idea in europe that everything can still be brought back. it seems to me that this is the point, but there is nothing to return back. and so vitaly comrade started everything very well. how do these same people return to its beginning? busted myths. and it seems to me that these myths just lay at the heart of everything, the world as we know it, of course, on
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the basis of these myths, and the entire financial system was built. the entire financial system is not based on gold about it. we also argued, so about this room. yes, but i tuned in on the myth of this economic superiority, and democracy and all that is simpler , a lot of things were built on this, it’s clear that things are quite abstract in international law, but at least so to speak about tacit agreements were also built on it, then there is a world order, in fact, the political one was built precisely on it on these myths. for everyone. listen, logistics. the whole world was built on the basis of this international division of labor, that is, the development of technologies of those or others who in that country was built on the basis of these myths. this, by the way, seriously undermines the thesis of the primacy of the material over the spiritual, or vice versa , so to speak, in fact, the basis over the settings, which is actually, so to speak, an idea and any, as it were, a myth, as a manifestation. he is ahead of this idea. listen even the tourist area. that one was built exactly on these same myths, the insurance area exactly on these very myths. built. what
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does the collapse of these myths mean, that i have listed everything, as well as numerous areas of human activity that we have not listed. they are now ceasing to exist, because all of them, like the united states dollar and, together with additional currencies, apologized not on fort nose gold, as in history on some other, so to speak, invented there, they were fundamentally based precisely on faith in these myths. here this american world is faith, in a utopia. you know, how the world would stand on this utopia for a very long time, how, you know, how many people would live on this. yes, it’s like it’s like in people’s lives, that is, in fact , this is a kind of sphere, ideal ideal not in the sense that it is devoid of any shortcomings ideal in that case we are based on an idea on this set of ideas mikhail can be called the world that we lived was built, because this set of people no longer suits anyone. he's broken. quicker everything, unlike the gas pipeline. north stream. even technically it is not subject to fundamentally, as it were, restoration. this means that we will live in a different world. and
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this is where it starts. most importantly, here the meat is coming, because in fact, here we are now entering the unknown, as if there will be a lot of mistakes and everything else. well , a lot in the near future. i think 2-3 years will depend on how each of the great and not so great powers will go through their crisis and live their shortcomings. well i do not know, there, here we are, praise china pointing to it as a successful experience, but it has a huge number of problems, for example, with the domestic market debt crisis chinese domestic crisis of the domestic market, which does not want to be built, the chinese are used to living in a world where the main thing is to give something for export, because the main commodity inside china for well, more or less prosperous people who understand the economy is the dollar, but it no longer works. and this is the main thing, the main principle, as it were, moreover, china despite the fact that he gradually tries on some elements of the clothes of the great power. it never existed in the modern sense. he did not decide international
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affairs, although he tries to do it. now, if china has these shortcomings, how would it survive , all the rest are solved by themselves somehow. well, it’s like a tugboat is following him to pull everything out. america is now at a crossroads there is half a mile. america such in america there are four five. well, not not in the period before when china was in charge and was the largest economy, which there was nothing but china, because in that region i had a lot of things there, but it was, as it were, outside the european, sphere of attention, yes, well, the united states now seems to have a really very difficult period, because, well, here , uh, the guys from alabama don’t understand at all, what to say so, now he’s talking, well, just now, when then what do the americans want, i don’t want to say, you guys are in alabami. ask not exactly those do not want. well, well, will america really go, will they allow it?
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does america want anything excuse me, will america allow itself to be ruled by this clique that is absolutely not american for another 10 years from the point of view, there are any historical documents, there and in general, like any texts of the main, believing americans, or will it still be able to free itself from them . this is a very important moment for the survival of america itself, and chaos in america is chaos all over the world in general , potentially. well, we also know a lot about ourselves, but our task now, it seems to me, is in this entire situation. and what is he to know ourselves, what do we know? our task now is to close the gap in those industries where we have holes . the president, by the way, constantly says about this . provide for ourselves there, say independence in all key areas of technology, no, no, but this is not about our knowledge of ourselves. he also lived together that we are darins, that we can’t do anything, because in fact, everything is bad for us. we are a surprisingly pessimistic people in this regard, which is absolutely untrue to eat, for example, look at how we have changed
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over the past few years, what we have really done, you know, what will become clear is that we underestimate the traditional for ourselves. this. by the way, this has always been the case historically, but when it comes to serious things. and just very quickly they changed their worldview, that is, situations somewhere where we are against the french, but non-conformity of worldview is also a worldview. if we understand the worldview, it is under the fourteenth year. we would still be standing in paris right now no, well, but here it’s a completely different matter that we do with our victories. this, by the way, is a separate part of the worldview, because we talk all the time. no, guys, no, okay, i turned it off, they were just leaving paris from inverted france. this word was done from there, so everything was removed. versts have been placed. yes, i stayed for a russian interview, even i would say good, right? yes what do we do with our victories. it's
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like a separate song, by the way, the same thing. we do constantly with them. we really endure, and the lessons from the defeats in including so to speak, i do not know there any war that can take a serious war endured. lessons very quickly very quickly everything was getting better, so to speak. well, quickly by the standards of the war that was going on there, if the war, so to speak, was 12 years old, this is one of the wars of the forty-first forty-fifth dressed, the only one that we did not do any lessons. well, wars. this is the russo-japanese war and the first world war. that's where the weakness of the central government did not allow the necessary to be done. by the way, i read this, by the way say, there are all sorts of documents that were made as a result of the russo-japanese war. in fact, a lot was done there, as if the political situation was already weak for the central government, and did not make it possible to draw the necessary conclusions.
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from other russian regions, when they find out that the products they see are produced in front-line cities, they are very surprised since 2014, as if there were always very difficult conditions, but people never lost heart that we are making a product. it was hard in the fourteenth year it was hard, when it was here at all, but nonetheless. we try girls, we survive. many say that at home is even scarier. when you are. here in the production process with colleagues. it doesn't feel that way, dear friends. viewers of the channel, russia 24 with pleasure. i invite
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