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period is always 180 percent days and every 2 months. it starts again. also free service. hello in the studio ekaterina gracheva our weekly church program and we are on channel russia 24 on weekends we talk with representatives of the russian orthodox church. today my guest is archpriest vladimir of gila, rector of the church of st. tatiana at moscow state university father vladimir hello well, i can introduce you more broadly. of course, you are also a history culturologist writer. and i would like to talk about news today. although definitely. we will also touch on them, but still take a little wider. you have a lot of work dedicated to the philosopher priest, and paul

of florence himself, his famous work of this iconostasis. well, i want to start with her other works. this is the proposed state structure in the future. do you think ideology for modern russia is what it should be and should it be? does she go on top? or should it rise from the masses? what do you think? there must be some kind of synthesis associated with the opposition of up and down, and, by the way, he speaks about this, uh, father pavel florensky wrote this essay after receiving a ten-year sentence in the camp, and now, while in prison, he wrote very strange in 3 days. at first glance , an essay reflecting on the topic of the future of our state in general, uh, in the history

of these futurological, uh, some concepts that have been around for several centuries, this is ilmonosov. and pushkin mendeleev vernadsky father pavel florensky, then solzhenitsyn how to equip russia for us and so on. a certain history of this issue has already appeared, as they thought, but our state is a composition of florensky. especially if you read it with today's eyes, because it seems that he writes about our time, what he writes there. he gives a short essay, written in 3 days, there are 18 points, in which there is everything domestic policy, foreign trade policy. e, mined industry, processing industry. i don't know, there is a culture of family life, uh, medicine, what is there? what is there just

not there, even about intelligence, he writes even an ideological hmm war. most importantly, he writes about the mobilization character. countries in the coming years before the war of the forty-first year, but in fact he writes about the confrontation between russia and the west and how to adapt to this confrontation, how the state should change amazing things? and you can excuse me, i'll immediately interrupt you, and in your opinion, the west of florensky times. this is the same west that we have today and russia is the same russia that was under florensky. yes, only the dominants of this western, e world was germany then now the united states and the collective west, but

even in this essay it simply speaks for the west in a very interesting way, that is, in the terms that we now designate, and this, of course, is amazingly curious. uh, for our cause. and this mobilization character he defines, er, ideology. the economy and politics of the state about which florensky wrote, and moreover, it says that a strong-willed personality is needed, possessing brilliant intuition. he says, it doesn’t even have to be. a person should be brilliantly smart, but the intuition with which he will take upon himself the right to be responsible for the policy of russia. well, it seems to me that we

now have such a strong-willed person who has responsibility written on his face. anything. uh, they are talking about our president, but it is impossible to name stalin , who was absolutely irresponsible in relation to the state and state personnel. well, we often forget about it. here's but by them no less is this aggression of the west, therefore, what

was written and foreseen by father paul of florence then is now read very modernly. can a state like russia be in a constant state of mobilization? is it possible to say about china that it is a state? in the state of mobilization, the question is very important, very serious florensky gave 5 years of this mobilization activity of the state said that when will it be strengthened, when will the west understand that it is impossible, uh, to rebuild russia, uh, who would live for the sake of interest in the west, just as it is written , you understand.

remove the parliament party, for example, so that nothing interferes, so to speak, with the mobilization that works for unity and not fragmentation, what we are now talking about is the so -called democracy. in fact. we are now seeing that democracy has absolutely nothing to do with it, that it is a cover for a screen for a completely different type of power , uh, it is democracy that is alien, and he wrote about this that it is always born in this form. uh father, but uh amazing things hmm he

came up with for russia. on the one hand, a very rigid vertical of uh regarding power, and on the other hand, absolute freedom of the individual and unwillingness for the state to interfere in this matter at all. and what exactly is such freedom and such hope for e, those individuals who are citizens of this state. uh, so that there would be no barriers to the identification of this creative scientific and individual personality, that is, which has like pushkin wrote a poem with his remarkableness. eh, more independent than a person, the key to his greatness is this, independently, or subjectivity or sovereignty of a person. he

defends here in this his project of the future state. we can say that china says no to this project. why is there absolutely none of this at all. this national psychology does not correspond at all . pushkin that two feelings, uh, are given to us, which god uh, so to speak , love given to us by gothic coffins. uh love for kind of ashes and now this is the subject of this person independently. this is generally not florensky china. we can say that this is a project of socio-cultural political reform of the soviet union that happened.

but at the same time, what we observed uh in the country after the collapse of the soviet union followed a completely different model. it seems to me that one can describe our life in the nineties with such a prison slogan. don't believe, don't be afraid. don't ask, so we lived no, really, we asked for humanitarian aid. we we received. i remember when we were in school, uh dry milk in cans and stew from america were sent from america how did it happen that the country went some other way after it collapsed from the union, we most often say that the lack of ideology gave here the tone of the state, uh, which hmm was tuned to emama extermination and self-destruction. i disagree with this, by the way. the very extermination and

self-destruction is inherent in general modern civilization and culture. she's very culture uh, liberalism turned from a way of thinking to a harmless way of thinking b totalitarian ideology that subjugates everything else to itself is hmm of course, all are suicidal. e things. it was kind of an ideal. it sat in my head. it's not that in the newspaper, the truth was written about it, but it was sitting in my head. uh, our so-called elite, and, by the way, he wrote about this in florensky, he said, uh, that we should not overtake

and overtake someone. of course, that's why in our country, do you think, when we talk about ideology, some are nostalgic for the tsarist empire, others are nostalgic for the soviet the union is always a look back. this is some kind of national feature of the character of a russian person. why can't he articulate? what his life will look like tomorrow and what textbooks his children will learn from any religious thinking person, especially the clergyman will very quickly answer this question for you both about the national idea and about the so-called ideology. we have moved away from god, the nation has broken off the connection between ourselves and god, our creator and our savior. this is characteristic, not only of russia

common to all mankind. well, how does this manifest itself in our country? presidents everyone remembers, yes, and modern ones were present in churches at holidays, leaders of political associations, even communist gennady zyuganov, also regularly congratulates orthodox believers and himself . there are churches in churches. we are building in large numbers in the country, as if external all the indicators that the country did not leave god, people in the polls of vciom. there, for the most part, 70% call themselves believers, but they are not churched. they observe holidays of friendship, but they list themselves among believers, if, with all these external, but external attributes of the state, which are with god where and when did we

depart from god. outwardly attributes were correctly said, thank god. this is the first step. it is very important indeed. now there has been a kind of second baptism of russia, but outwardly it happened and thank god i am very pleased, because behind this external. perhaps there is a future, but there are interesting things we have baptized seven. let's say 70% there. there are various names from 60 to 80% there and so on themselves, calling themselves orthodox. exactly, he is also about sixty percent, but participating in church life. i also studied sociology. well, suppose 15% to some extent small large and so on, monthly and so on 15 percent.

those people who first of all consider themselves sinners, who dream and want to follow the path of some kind of correction. here in these with vladimir they said that it is easy to formulate an ideology. formulate an ideology. for modern russia, what should i be? once again i can quote alexander sergeevich pushkin two feelings, wonderfully close.

in them, love for our father's coffins finds food in our hearts. love for the native, the ashes on them is based from the century by the will of god himself independently transformed into a russian conservative. the ideologist of conservatism, how did it happen that the two fraternal peoples of russia, ukraine

, once, which was one state that recently ceased to be such, went such different ideological paths. russia is becoming stronger in its conservatism. ukraine moves towards the west of liberal values, of course, a tragedy for the whole nation, for some people. it just went through uh some kind of crack inside i was born in ternopil i'm not ukrainian. i am russian so it seemed that my parents ended up in ternopil in the early fifties before my father was rehabilitated. we lived until the age of 56, we lived in ukraine, just my father, after the camp, could not live in large cities and was unemployed and was looking for a possible, although he wrote. having published

many books by this time before landing in the camp and uh, we were looking for work. here we go to ternopil and they found out that russians were killed there before the fifty-fifth year of those who worked , as if for the soviet government, including the intelligentsia, teachers, journalists , writers, librarians, uh, in western ukraine, i was born there, but uh, after birth they ran away . it was the flight and erased from ternopil, because only in the newspaper in which my mother of life worked, the editor-in-chief told her that 100 people were killed in our country, i don’t know from our newspaper during the 45-50 year after the war, 100 people were killed by bandera. they

let's go build a geopolitical project on kakhovka, you need to take advantage of any split of any nation in order to achieve your interests, the previous president of ukraine poroshenko proclaimed three principles of the reform that the army needed to carry out in ukraine language and vera this is very wise. satanic action, this is a very serious thing language faith to change to break the backbone of the nation

remove faith remove language 80% of the population of ukraine spoke russian were. well , for example, he did not know the ukrainian language before his accession to the presidency, he did not know ukrainian language, so that a person can remove vera is an absolutely satanic plan. well, how did we miss the nation of ukraine, the americans do not miss this

chance, what is being done here on television you work you see that the cultural literary language is uh already uh, it no longer reflects that vulgar language that was introduced or that was left to chance uh in the nineties. e in russia, you look at the name of the stores. check in moscow there are more than half of the foreign names of stores. this is a strongly directed thing that has some soil inside. and our elite and our people we could save when everything was money god the modern god

. but let's still, in the end, i'll ask you a question as a priest. so , when bishop nicholas of japan , already a canonized saint, and at the beginning of the russian-japanese war of 1905, his russian parishioners in japan came to the temple and asked a question. how are we going to attack our own people? now, when this war is going on, and he blessed them to take up arms and said that you live in this state. you are in japan now. imagine the situation. well, for example, in which you would be appointed the rector of the temple, not tatyana at moscow state university, and you would be, say, in poltava. you would be

the rector of the temple somewhere on the territory of ukraine, and now a special military operation begins and young ukrainian guys come to you. perhaps in the same poltava , most of whom speak russian and ask you, what should they do with the brothers in the hands there are no weapons against the russians and how to give such blessings the question is - this is a very important and very serious ah-ah regarding all the priests who are now in ukraine, some of my friends. in order not to resolve this issue, simply leave, for example, father andrei tkachev or a personal father from kiev, the archimandrite, the one who stood between the uh with the banners. on the maidan, between the opposing ones, those who rebelled and those who

defended the government, he now serves here in moscow. these people decided this very important question. that's the way some of my friends are. i’m just not going to call them that, maybe they would interfere and serve in kiev and kharkov and dnepropetrovsk we were prayed because of the soviet authorities because of the terrible power they prayed. this is a prayer for enemies. this is a common thing for a priest. that's why, uh, it doesn't forbid, but that power. how your friends decide for themselves their arrival , their parishioners are there, they make out, because if they bless to take up arms, no, about this, i don’t know with confidence. for these

people, they are horrified by what is happening there, because if they leave, then they will come in their place. well, real satanists, those who bless the icons with the mother of god and with the christ child with a trident. uh, they have christ with a trident. these are the icons now in the church to the dog, so, then , uh, they will give their paste. it's them, uh, many of them are just tortured. some of them are in jail. well, under vladik pavel whom i also know very well. i’m just not going to say anything, and then they’ll say correctly to votsk television, metropolitan pavel on place, friends, very close. people

wore wearers, there was practically nothing left. when i pray for wounded captive people, these are not only our soldiers. ukrainians are also this. i pray for them. many thanks, father vladimir, for coming to our studio and for this interesting conversation.

these are very serious people. you'll have to move out. this is our house, someone has already left together for a long time; today palych, don’t leave your paratroopers. it's all back the nkvd on the mini was blown up.

and the main event to this minute in our news release is the ukrainian army, hit pouchingar bridge between kherson region and crimea was used by western storm shadow missiles, the supporting structures were not damaged. in addition, another bridge edition of the school was fired high. here is what the head of the region, vladimir, said on the air of our channel