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our weekly church program and we are on channel russia 24 every week here we discuss the current agenda of the news that happened in russia in the world, in general we are talking about the main events in the context of christian values. today my guest is a religious historian of islamic studies roman anatolyevich silantyev hello, i'm glad to see you. and usually we have in the clergy. that rarely happens. uh, we have a social guest. i'm very interested in starting a conversation with you. that's why, and in the summer i went to a big forum , russia africa, and i know that there was a serious discussion, and religious ideologies will not be spoken of interfaith, probably, more of his references to the dialogue of orthodox catholics, namely dialogue, uh, christians and muslims. tell us, what stage is this dialogue at today? we are waiting from the countries of africa well, at the moment we

have a very good dialogue in russia towards the inter-religious. especially between muslims and christians between christians and buddhists. in general, it was greatly strengthened by a special military operation, when both muslims and buddhists created a battalion and sent their clergy, that is, well, as it were, like the great patriotic war , a joint struggle against a common enemy additionally strengthened an already good relation. generally. we have been saying for a long time that we have one of the world's examples of this dialogue, that we have never had tolerance, because we have always had mutual respect. that is, we somehow calmly zeroed this stage. and now we are also observing interesting directions of this dialogue, indeed, the pranks of this large forum russia africa was a panel discussion with spiritual leaders from the russian orthodox church, metropolitan klinsky leonid represented them. africa and muslims mufte

alberg karganov, uh, head of the spiritual assembly muslims of russia and now, it just turned out that we have many common areas of common affairs in africa, countries, both christian and muslim, and with a mixed population , are present in parallel with the orthodox mission. i do not rule out that there will be a muslim mission, maybe even created, as dioceses will be created in the near future, orthodox precisely within the framework of the russian orthodox church have such ideas. well, just such ideas already exist. we already have over 200 clerics. e in africa and quantity grows fast. so i do not rule out that somehow together with the muslims we will implement a project there. you said that it was a reason for representatives of different faiths to rally. how would you rate the split that is taking place, among the orthodox, in russia and ukraine against the backdrop of a special

military operation. yes, unfortunately this split exists and, uh, it was completely inevitable, since there is a policy that ukraine has been pursuing for the past 30 years. she was russophobic and, of course, this affected the ukrainian orthodox church. she couldn't to change this vector, she turned out to be, in general , now the face of inevitable destruction, since she will be destroyed in ukraine. and the territory of ukraine that we will win back will already belong to the russian orthodox church, which in general is now visible, the liberated territories created by the party are already under the direct control of the moscow patriarchs. yes, it was, but it was before repeatedly orthodox among themselves and fought. this is very sad. but this is not some unique event, what do you think about, but the opinion of the theory that hmm these are the main forces religious ones, which are going to ukraine and the clearing is being cleared up.

well, to be honest, i don’t think that it will ever be cleared under the uniates. it would have been so when the vatican was in power, when it had expansion plans, the world ones were 5.400-500 back, yes or 200 back. perhaps this would be true. well at the moment. uh, the catholic church is in a deep shovel and its positions are everywhere losing it, what we are seeing in ukraine is not clearing the field for the uniates. it's clearing the field for her gentiles. about what neo-pagans are so scandinavian and , frankly, there are near the satanic current, that is, the action of the ukrainian authorities by their propaganda of their narratives. they are not christian. there are places there, not only i don’t have them there, there is also a place there, let’s say in a much more distant direction from us. no, not protestants. that is, it is the principle itself of the culture of anti-christians. what forecast will you give to the canonical

ukrainian orthodox church against the background of everything that we observe against the backdrop of the imprisonment of the persistently kiev-pechersk lavra, the arrests of priests? historical in kyiv what will happen take place in the walls? well, people have already begun to go under the field, this also happened when the union of brest was also not in the best conditions , they continued to profess their faith. well, they just waited for the arrival of the russians, it didn’t happen right away, they needed it. and yet, if, of course, everyone is taken away no options, if they take me, and they don’t need them to serve us there, it was during more centuries, when churches were taken away in favor of the renovationists , no one went there, then these churches were closed and demolished they don't need temples. for someone they need to have normal people in these temples there was no way to make, according to your expression , the normal people of ukraine are orthodox. well , someone in large numbers has already moved to us, probably, over the past 8 years

, about a thousand clergy have moved in russia over time, a village of several hundred. only naturally, millions of lay people moved to us. well, those who remained, many lead under the fields, this happens. do it already. come on anatolyevich i know my sources in the internal policy department of the presidential administration, what now did you know about this, a ban on traffic is being prepared satanists were a little surprised to change, because , well, i don't think that this is a problem in our country, it even exists on such a scale. yes, and the second question that arises we have different there are no other problems. what to do, like the movements of satanists. here. tell me how the religion of this historian. uh, how deluded i am, satanists. unfortunately, there really are, of course, many films and books devoted to it. there is even such a concept as satanic panic, when missing children are immediately registered there. how is it satanic rituals have it, but there are

sad statistics. i had the opportunity to familiarize myself with criminal cases, please explain when the children are what? well, when kids go missing and there's a rumor that the missing kids were stabbed to death. you 're in america, here in america it's especially common in our country, this happens a lot , american history, so to speak, basically, so to speak. well, that's what it's made of. the conclusion is that there are no satanists, because the children are either found later or for other reasons, they die. uh, but unfortunately there are satanists they really have been killing people here for the last 30 years. well, we have now raised criminal cases. well, about 200 cases of ritual murders have been confirmed, and at least twice as many since. mostly homeless alcoholics, whom no one will look for, die. well, people simply disappear, that is, the body does not find it, and naturally. it doesn't come across about the statistics for the last 30 years.

this is just such a strong, smeared statistics that has been happening there over the past three years, the presidential administration says. well, they talk about this problem in different structures. i think they started talking, because in ukraine, satanism looms as a state release of a religion of hatred. it goes exactly in this direction, that is, hatred for all muscovites, including children of pensioners , prizes, you kill them all. in general, signs of satanism. well, that is, we are now, in fact, radicalism. uh, there he has nazism , we will attribute nazism there. well, satanism has one interesting feature. let's put it this way, if ordinary sects totalitarian terrorist organizations offer to kill bad people, in the name of good. after that , they promise good raspberries of the earth or an improvement

in life. the satanists just want to kill everyone. these are religious directions that advocate the destruction of all mankind and the main instrument of satanists is the reduction of the people. seal in one way or another, well, ritual murder is the final stage. extreme, but there are others, for example, the possibility there is propaganda of abortion propaganda of euthanasia promotion of suicides are those things that, in principle, reduce nationalities. and there are so many people in our country ready to lay down their lives for the idea of ​​​​destroying everyone who is, the most susceptible to such propaganda is a minor group of the population that beat people in different ways. we have, of course, not adult satanists. the statistics met was an eighty-year-old granny, who managed to slaughter two people in the tula region with a group of comrades, that is, in general, the age range is quite large. well , it really seems to you that against the background of all the others. problems and topical issues

of russia of the problems of the prohibition of satanic organizations is an island movement, as such, but the fact is that we have banned the columbine movement, a terrorist movement that prescribes the killing of people in educational institutions, mostly minors. here they are, since 2017, they have been villainous, they have already killed almost 70 people. this, of course, is less than satanists. but on the other hand , such attacks are regularly prevented in our country in a shorter period of time, and in principle, we tend to count. this movement is also satanic in nature, as they propagate the ideas non-selective killings and suicide after the commission of this crime, that is, the point of view of columbiners or school shooters. must be killed. as many people as possible, since people defined evil and they themselves meet the criteria of politics, therefore they end up themselves. and now we have already had 14 attacks. of these, two even against kindergartens and in general.

minors predominate among the dead. and now i am engaged in expert examinations of these executions , and several sentences have already been passed based on these examinations, and, in general, more than one a dozen videos of criminal cases and in half of the cases there are ukrainian trace, that is, in some cases, teenagers themselves decide to attack a school or kindergarten, and in some cases they are given orders from ukrainians, and fourteen-15-year-olds meet them boys and girls , that is , the organisms of children, yes, and in relation to children, that is, columbains are one of the few terrorist movements that specifically kill children. moreover, the most terrible case was recorded in kindergartens, thank god, outside russia, but nevertheless two children of preschool age. they killed the worst kind of club in our country, and to kill a close relative of the father or mother, go to the kindergarten to kill the maximum number there. children then

commit suicide, but the sad record in thailand was more than 50 people died in october last year, and before that in america there were 27 dead, and here we have repeatedly tried to do this. twice. this happened in the ulyanovsk region and in krasnoyarsk, and in general, about 200 were prevented, and so this type and that's all, more often my ukrainian trace. in this we see someone they offer to set fire to, relay cabinets of mass telephone fraud appear. in our country, more than 90% of the adult population received calls from ukraine, and many people received calls as a result of these calls. money there, transferred losses. we have tens of billions a year, even the number delivered was called. we are now getting everything together, uniting the ukrainian columbuses. the thing is, let's say it all comes from one system. that is, they work in relation to pensioners, who then set fire to the military registration and enlistment offices, that is, from person. transferred money.

they understand that they are being called to manipulate him a second time on behalf of the fsb, they are threatening a criminal case for transferring money to ukraine for the first time and suggest that, in order to avoid criminal liability , set fire to the military registration and enlistment office in such cases, we have dozens, and here in late july-early august there were especially many. moreover, there, an 18-year-old seventy-year-old comes across this topic, exclusively ukrainian arson of relay cabinets, dozens of months in number. well , the most vile thing that they did is that we have probably had this bringing for 7 years already. teenagers to suicide. here is the theme of the games of death or blue institutions. well, in general, this is a purely ukrainian invention. hmm, we lost about 400 teenage kids on this basis, that is, long before the start, osvo. it was all going. that is, they relied on pensioners, others on teenage children. in the third , on some unbalanced women. well practically the strength of vulnerable populations have been covered. you know so well. statistics you

are involved in such an investigation in these criminal cases as an expert yes we have a destructology laboratory. that's just our topic, we explore these topics and read lectures. yes, and in general , we write manuals on how to avoid this. but i recently had a conversation with the priest vladimir vigelysky, and he was just talking about the fact that the modern ideology of the west is the ideology of self-destruction. do you think russia can catch this disease? self-destruction yes, russia can catch this disease, so you need to protect yourself from this and the ideology of self-destruction - this is the very satanism, because i repeat there were ideologies that offered to kill all the bad ones in the name of the good ones, but nevertheless they were good, they did not stand for the destruction of the institution of the family for the destruction of humanity. they advocated bad liquidation. and now what we are seeing back in the west. this

is really the destruction of humanity , i somehow allow myself to note that, and it seems to me that you can pick up such a desire. self-destruction is possible if you have already reached a certain level of well-being there, and in rich and prosperous western countries. what's this is called already starting to freak out with fat or the united states of america, or when you have nothing to lose from a state where there are wars, there and so on in islamic states, income is now in ukraine i can imagine. why say a teenager whose relatives died? father or mother can go? and there throw a grenade at someone, yes, and i don’t understand why you think that in modern russia and let’s even say to young people to the young generation. teenagers will want to destroy themselves or destroy someone and spend the rest of their days in prison. well, there are such people, it does not have a massive character, but there are not so few of them, that

is, of course, these are some fractions of a percent. but it's not two or three people who practically catch them with their wife, who, in general, know how it will all end, but nevertheless i do it. well, imagine us now watching parents of teenagers. who are watching them. well, let's say their subscription to some groups on the internet and so on is alarming. what you need to pay attention to. what are the words of caution. you can give as a member of such an expert commission of inquiry such murders. we have a benefit called. who are columbiners, how to recognize them, and the book of satanists against biogarbage, everything is written there in detail about both the blue whale and columbai. so, in short, a sharp change in behavior should annoy, it can be about terrorism and pro-extremism about drugs. it's just a transitional period. but still, first love and so on. it can be unfortunate, first love is better to check. is it exactly the unfortunate first love how can you check to ask? there are no characteristic changes in clothing

there, uh, what kind of subscriptions in social networks? what films are like music? in general , there are a lot of markers, so you can use these signs for very high accuracy for parents. well, not in all regions, but, in principle, law enforcement agencies can immediately apply. they will not put the child there, but they will still check and figure it out. well, this is better than a child jumping out of the window later, or even somewhat synchronously, as it happened, unfortunately, more than once we started with the topic of the forum. russia africa talked about interreligious dialogue. but all the same , religious conflicts arise in our confessional country. but what about in such settlements, where, say? located not far even from big cities from moscow, for example, the city of obninsk, there are statistics of almost 80-90 children, uh, who go to school - well, these are the children of once -migrant immigrants who have already received passports, that is,

the language there is dominated not by russian, but it is the education system is being destroyed. naturally, from these classes the local population. the educational process is gone. it is simply slowed down due to ignorance of the language and closure occurs . it has long been warned that clavialization is dangerous, that when full-fledged enclaves are created , crime grows, that the police often do not have the technical ability to go there and check something. we know how it happens abroad, but in berlin there are entire turkish quarters. yes, here in general, you can remember a lot of other places. we were dispersed like cherkizon, somehow people immediately became easier to live, but why repeat this experience is not good what to do if it has already happened, here are some the city already had such a population. children they have already received passports children already go to school. well, actually, the mistakes of local authorities when they ask me how to optimize migration policy. i ’ll use the muslim countries of the persian gulf as an example, they don’t give sparta there,

but they give people the opportunity to work. these are their special locations outside the cities. they bring you to work by bus and you are back. which gives you zero crime in your spare time. they're doing massive data majors successfully the one applies practically in all and in the emirates and in the frame and saudi arabia there the share of migrants often exceeds the share of the indigenous population or there is no comparability, like saudi 40%, for example, migration policy, for example, france and germany if we take cities like hamburg there berlin or paris well, as we see nothing good in this policy does not give any melting pot. failed to create the same enclaves of people of the second third generation already with fully adapted. to local conditions with ports, let's say they behave like this. how they were led there ancestors, for example, only more brazenly, because. well, he feels that they are no longer migrants here, already natives there, when you have such a dialogue with russian muftis. most

muftis support you in this. yes, since they are still muftis of indigenous muslims, they also do not like it and muslims often complain. we, among other things, that it is hard for us to go to the mosque, that the tatar language is being squeezed out of the mosque, and in some places not only tatar. in general , the peoples of the caucasus already feel uncomfortable often under the pressure of migrants, because muslim yes, and in general, for many of them, russians are much closer to culture and in other ways than. here are the people from the middle that they say about the need to build new swords in large russian cities, without scandals they build, like the same cartoon of ergans in a communal apartment, they build a mosque, well, which they constantly make scandals in the chip and mosques are never built. we had a scandal when they wanted to build a huge mosque in the novokosino area. as a result, this project was canceled. he didn't admit to anyone who wanted her. arrange. they said that if

i quote you correctly now , paganism in ukraine becomes the official religion. and how are things going with this in russia in general? you know, we have a different situation with this matter. at one time, the fashion for it was paganism. about 150,000 of our citizens entered various groups of non-pagans. and in. in general, it 's okay, it seems that this is not on the one hand, but on the other hand, experts, what did they begin to notice? well, the fact that slavic paganism, as such, it practically does not preserved in history that it is known that there was perun. we essentially know nothing more. everything else causes great controversy among specialists on the fact that slavic illogicality has become very dependent on scandinavian paganism. and scandinavian paganism is now in shape. it exists for me at the nazis, that is, modern neo-nazis mainly profess the religion of latanism. that is, god, here he is, or one here is the supreme god of this pantone, and they worship him, because they believe that christianity does not meet neo-nazi ideals. this is more

by the way, hitler understood. well, not a single christian direction of the swastika succeeded - this too. here are our neo-pagans from all the ornament of the rich slavic , they raised the swastika on the shield and use it as much as possible. although there were a lot of other symbols. what is the point of the past, in fact, the vast majority of neo-nazis, in ours, were left neo-pagans, moreover, more and more often than we observe exactly the scandinavian bias, and why is it sad? well, it's sad that after all , people profess the religion of a loser, that is, well, the pagans could never normally fight against monastics not only christians, but also against the same muslims, for example. thank you very much roman anatolyevich for this conversation.

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