when i passed i saw sitting in life. we made eye contact, and i sat down next to him. we didn't talk very much, but i got the main point. he said that at the beginning he somehow said something wrong that he said 30 years. by 2030

, no more than 20 million inhabitants should remain in ukraine. i laughed in his face, i say. you are a dreamer where did you get it from? where are you from? why did you say so? he says, because we can't feed anymore. yes, we don't need more. and since you accepted the idea of ​​globalizing the decision center. so kindly said -30.000.000. well, here you are, and now the result. it was good with vodka, but nevertheless, you know, the topic is really very topical here is the democratic catastrophe that was in

ukraine. listen, this is what was said in the twenty-second year, this problem is something. i have already said many times. she was still surprised in the late nineties, she became very serious and the depopulation of the population was terrible in our country before the second maidan. we have only two million-plus cities left kharkiv kiev that is, where the population walked all over the country , and moreover, i’ll probably say that this is only by and large. this is the beginning, because i somehow dealt with demographic issues. well, it just works. you count the sample. and so i once told you that i obviously considered jazz , then maybe you are in ukraine and in poland it is also out, after all, well, polish roots and so on, then a relatively successful country was not there wild depopulation of the poles, but now also minus nine percent for the last year. this is polish data and is not a population. they have been going on for 5 years now. by the way, this is the question of how they will close 1.5 million ukrainian personnel. uh, the expectation is polish sources 2.7 million years in 7 in 8. they

still need to attract their economy in order to maintain the pace of economic growth. e their own, which were and minimize social problems. i believe that after all, this is being done from the outgoing population, because ukraine will be more rapidly anyway. uh, lose your population, because this is migration it's going, uh, very fast. and i think that so far this process is not reversible. you know, the military spoke between critical catastrophic ones there, that is, and not a supporter, perhaps, perhaps, to scatter such harsh words. well, in principle, this is true by and large. so, uh, endless expectations of some political processes. here today , they gave such a lead that the expectation will be again talking about the political process in ukraine, listen, well , i said it again and i say it there, if already there. or rather, the middle of spring, in my opinion, 24 years old. all of them are presidential parliamentary elections, there are local elections, but i say that for now it’s not worth building illusions, therefore

, for the reason, but i’ll give an example, we talked a lot about germany, in general, there is one interesting very successful political project , an alternative for germany i say, i’m very i say conditionally. consider a project. this is 10 years in total. it was created in the thirteenth year already in the seventeenth. they all they got instead of a stage. now according to german german polls. i looked in dynamics. if in in the twenty-second year they had from 11 to 15% of support, this is a party that, well, she, as it were , considers it marginal, but on the other hand , they don’t want to do anything with them, there are all kinds of, uh, pressure on her. turns out it's a big deal now. here are the last german questions. they say they equated with the leading political party. these are the expectations in political life. it may just be relevant for ukraine, because now it will not be possible to reanimate it, because if germany has electricity, if them i am a political life, which, and it goes beyond the framework of this political correctness that has now developed in germany, then i ask myself a simple question. how do you want

to build political life in these conditions? ah here is simply here is what political force. it’s not for nothing that i made this parallel, germany, after all, is a relatively successful country there with all the questions and all the problems. they seem to have more questions now than answers about political life. how do you want to restore this political life, and there is already drawing next predictions. there, who will be there, zelensky what are the political projects? guys? well, now, listen, it’s not because it’s the smartest there, or what is it? well, for now , it’s not worth talking about this at all, because the configuration will change over these six months, in general , other people will come out with other processes, so i would put it all the same now. uh, well, as if solving the problem, but as for what is possible, perhaps there will be some options related to the dialogue within the ukrainian society, if they want to put something out, but so far there are no alternatives to this yet. the poles are actively developing the territory while the poles, as it were, appropriate a significant part of the population of ukraine, and this is really happening and this is happening, as

if consistently methodically and without options. you see, when they say everything in obzhezinsky about this, it’s just that everything is really written there. here are those who, well, i literally counted it before the twentieth year again. listen, he wrote to his students. i already spoke once in the studio, when it was 90 ninety-six, i think in 25 years. these people are already running the country. they grew up with these textbooks. they understand there the only thing that is serious there. they docking was in his book. this is the relationship with china that is, he wrote that china, as it were, we consider, as an option, as a possibly serious threat, then, well, with respect to ukraine, they very clearly built their policy. they implemented it. there are some conspiracy theories out there. yes, even in the west, 20% of the world's population believes in a jewish conspiracy. there in russia, 46% believe in the secret government. well there is a given survey, well, by and large. but there are secrets. well, how can you not believe in him. we should appear that biden rules no , the system works, the system works, and in

any case, they are methodically rebuilding all this work. by the way, that's sociology. you have such a fresh polish sociology, company c is there. you have such an interesting company. here they are, to whom they now sympathize more with the poles in the first place, the americans, 70% of the british. here are six positive and negative attitudes towards russians. well, what's interesting and chinese people are not very good relationship. just by the figure, it turns out 24 positively and 36 negatively the chinese are. well, the ukrainians have a relationship of 51 to 17. here. eh, even so, in principle, a complementary relationship is considered quite good. but i can say one thing, that polyakov, in general, has developed, how would such a clear position regarding ukraine they, too, if we returned to remember. here is the interview, everything is going according to plan. and just like that, they are, as it were, wonderful. polish plans lead to the division of their country. ha ha vladimir vladimirovich we are still. i'm just stating that there is a huge amount involved in the country. you have seen at least one

polish plan that would not end with the division of the country. well, so far i see that the poles are actively working with ukraine for them, while they were actively working all the time and ended up undressing. you are based on historical experience, and genet becomes sociology, and sociology is not an exact science and money is not refundable. today it is like this, and tomorrow it is called listen, but you, uh, are smiling in vain. if you look situation in dynamics, i'll just give you another one. listen, when we were generally such the united states were quite complementary to give everything and were. in general , some illusions set up. yes, in the end. sorry 10 years ago. and in ukraine , russia considered or most brotherly side a friendly state and there were no questions about how we perceive. what can i say for sure now? here people can discuss, i see questions there when doing that there are how many years of dollars there, what he will lose there listen to yours, people cannot

plan their lives. there, uh, some six months ahead. and we say that well, advise them to re-read the master and margarita yes, yes, the oil has already developed all the fragrance has suffered. thank you, here are just a few words of support for the thesis of vladimir nikolayevich about the reasons that forced russia to enter into a global frontation with the west on the territory of ukraine, that's what back in the seventeenth eighteenth years, when non-lethal weapons gradually began to flow into the territory of ukraine or secrets through the blood first, small arms of various brands of german american. yes, somewhere in a compartment with equipment somewhere with communication sessions, some portable counter-battery locators and so on, it seems, like all weapons for defense, but when already in the nineteen- twenties. there was a conversation about portable complexes, and in the twenty-first, ufo javelins arrived on the territory of ukraine , absolutely, means of attack, the conversation

in general about some kind of neutral status of ukraine , it simply floated away from the international discourse, because people themselves painted that we they began to bring lethal weapons to their territory and they prescribed in the future, as we know russia as our enemy, therefore , when in the twenty-second year, already in december , january 21, 22 , shells flew on the territory of the belgorod region, rostov-voronezh, infrastructure facilities were repeatedly destroyed by russia through all channels, then mida rang the bells all over and spoke. stop us, but pros did not distinguish anything at all. they were simply silent in kiev, that is , shells and artillery shells were already firing on our territory on our black earth. that is what can we even say that we were the first to attack someone, i apologize. i was in such a month in the rostov region and came along the highway with people talking, it really started. only somehow we probably didn’t shed light on this process as it should, because , of course, they began to hit russia. they conduct such tactics as an ant bite, then harder, then

they bit harder, then a series of drones hit. and they seem to be looking closely at how russia will respond. russia is still responding. as colleagues say correctly. well let's say so not very convincing in terms of what we observe every day. right now, here is the situation in the airspace, the second thesis is sincere. here, i have already talked about this with colleagues behind the scenes, without understanding. why do we every morning, here on all the main news feeds, start by reading from the number of drones that were shot down somewhere in the regions close to the moscow region. well, let's colleagues, honestly agree, they fly from four to seven in the morning, about news feeds, empty, lowering editors put this news. the first in the tops. they immediately fill in the front page of the internet editions of telegram channels. and that in the end people go to work with a panic in the naked? again, 10-15 drones, that is, in my opinion, it is only necessary to reduce this information agenda, firstly, most of these products are very successfully shot down by our

electronic warfare systems. air defense systems yes , indeed, it is very problematic to use anti-aircraft missiles on the territory of moscow, and it is unlikely that they will always be to a greater extent work means, well, for the sake of electronic suppression, but still, this is already such, probably, uh, an appeal to journalists and our colleagues. let's less you yourself create a panic around every glider there, which fell somewhere under the column. well, which again caught on somewhere in the bushes in the trees, by no means begging for the problem, but still we don’t put this topic of unmanned drones at the forefront because it feels like it captured the information agenda against. it’s already summer for him , we live in the world of drones and nothing else in the country not happening. well, this is such a subjective view to tell about peaceful tractors about relatives. and the reactor, that is, no, there is a lunar tractor. yes, although the soviet peace is yes, that is, don’t don’t talk about it, that is, don’t

give a third of defense, they give news, the governors give news, and we don’t broadcast it anywhere, and we don’t create such a serious information fund from this. actually the enemy. as they reach the information fund, the enemy achieves his goals of military military goals. they say that we are nothing we lie, and we keep talking one moment, when for some reason we show a photo of a video there. i can understand this, you can’t do this, but on the other hand, they took it down, they shot it all down, and it’s necessary that then rumors go, people say, it ’s booming here. banged here. they are silent. we give what official sources give. we are officially quoting the position of the ministry of defense, which is brilliantly working out all these informational occasions quickly, by the way, in this respect to the security forces, in general, complaints, of course i say. headlines on moscow hit roy well such journalists, well, since they themselves are already a little bit, but it is also necessary to give news. it still

doesn't need to be disclosed. well, for example , yes, here the governor of the active speaks there, he says there was, so he watches 15 drones or there the governor calls in, they are all destroyed. well, well done. they worked great. it's just the opposite, they give people confidence. listen, the war is coming. and what are we going to pretend that everything around is wonderful, but nowhere to stop, because this is, well, that's it. well, then let's just talk about how everything is great. hee-hee-ha, and then, that a year ago they told how everything was great, hee-hee. haha. yes, there would be no today's successes. well , the people then all became everyone understood that there were problems. we must help. this is a public matter. everyone turned on. they did everything. it will just get worse. if we really hear shots and explosions, yes, or do we immediately check and see, what is it? and that's it, but there was nothing. in a sense, these are issues of journalistic ethics and journalists are our colleagues.

the editor-in-chief should still prioritize the security of the city of moscow approaching harms this side or not, but when a foreign agent that for me is synonymous with a traitor. suddenly he throws out some news, referring, well, a certain decree. i just where did he see it? someone leaked some information to him or is it misinformation, how did the foreign agent get access? that is, i immediately have a question for military counterintelligence? this means that this person should be summoned for interrogation and find out where he came from. he is a foreign agent. he works in the interests of a foreign state. he throws away our information space is something that is there. is that what i'm more interested in? i have such a legal nuance to the issue, which means that the whole chain must be established and punished, but also this is

an investigation. it should be smersh and remind those organizations in the west that sponsor those organizations that work here, including some editorial publishing houses, even exist. but this is a big question. why can we read a publication, such as a jellyfish and so on, which pour slop on our state frank, that is, openly, information dumps of foreign special services of their children of these structures. you must clearly know, these are traitors to the motherland, they are blocked from us. they are prohibited. here they are not physically located will not read. there are also many questions for those people who think something there, that even now they are not talking about the telegram platform. now about the approach itself. well, i told you how there is one hysterical tower. wring your hands

, she told me, here is a wounded soldier on crutches , a couple is driven by artyom, he is beating in a klicheevka. well, i arrived, they ask if there is such a thing , they look at me like i'm an idiot. he says, what should we all do there? he is there why am i talking to the young lady, give me the name of the part, the surname of this person taught, is still silent, and did not give. but she considers herself such a patriot as such a patriot. so they love their homeland, they cannot sleep. calm down sometimes you need a young lady. here is something that is calmer and i agree with the headlines. so what is happening today exactly today in kiev in ukraine it is even for europeans. well, it came to me they are not ready for this not freedom of speech, which has now begun in ukraine. yes, vladimir vladimirovich in ukraine, yes, they look very very correct

hatred. no, look, if westerners, ah, journalists, say that they are no longer allowed to go to the front. that is, this is what it says about the fact that when they were allowed in and did not write the truth. some didn't like it, some didn't like it. there is no one who did not like the team to remove, that is, the ukrainians look with interest at the reports and fronts. yes, no one talks about ukrainians with hatred, but there is no hatred. but i want to continue freedom of speech. so yesterday i told you about the program about tula about his leadership and so on. we say goodbye to the neighbor and you are waiting for funnels and freedom of speech in russia and you showed it on the air. i didn't have time to get home. how do you look. they changed it, when they changed the picture, they changed the picture

, how i saw it all day long, here are the cowards that , as it were, zelensky is not the first in this magazine and he is not there, and that’s what this publication says. he said, sorry guys put up a coat of arms, the greek coat of arms, and that's it. why do you even understand cannot be thought. but it’s impossible not only to think, but to imagine that zelensky is not the leader of the country, everything, because there is pressure to destroy, so in fact, so that they say, well, let’s surrender, i don’t know for how long. this all happened yesterday. during this, everything happened within 204 days of an attack by journalists, and hours of forgiveness. yes, i said . why am i talking about this, but first i will give an answer to a very serious question conveyed by pavlovich. why, when zelensky travels at european prices in european countries, because in mostly the number of ukrainians who left the war, fled from the war, settled in the territory of european countries. well, listen, there

are only 280,000 us in america, but europe is a million, this is the region i found the answer to this question last week. i had such a serious discussion with my colleagues in ukraine and they brought me to this topic. they say, do you understand? all the people who left ukraine after february 24, no matter where they go to russia in estonia, they are all traitors, they are all zradniks, regardless of how regardless of political views. everything, they are all traitors. i say, wait what? what's next. that is why zelensky is leaving for europe, that he will communicate with traitors, they are all traitors. this was decided by yermak , this was decided by zelensky's entourage, so he does not meet with traitors. now further. i say okay. elections can be yes elections there prytula zelensky well, after all, those people who are citizens of ukraine left europe

, they will vote theoretically. yes , further, you see the queues of all these, that is it will be technology. they won't be able to vote. they'll even go, well, they won't be able to vote. they get it right away. ask why are they talking? well , because we just discussed with you, they are traitors, and they need to be deprived of the actual right to vote, they should be punished. and who will decide? we we are ukrainians ended in ukraine, we are the right ukrainians. i understand, what is at stake, survivors e, squeezing millions of people out of ukraine, they are headed by a minus. and this is public opinion. now on this is the current public opinion . yes, i wanted to talk. today we discussed the people of the territory about the future of ukraine, we already know all of the soviet union, and when in the nineties they told me that we ukrainians would live, as in france we are very often compared with france with

a frenchman. why don't you know, probably , i read romanov, when i met a guy on the front line who was a backbone, i ask you studied french, he says, no burr. well done, but the jews only you can talk, i can't. well , by the way, they also concern france , so you understand that the people took it from egypt and carried it out. volodymyr podol'fovich at the beginning of ukraine's independence, 52 million people lived in ukraine and c. e. about 67-68 million people lived in france. that is, we didn’t have enough, speaking purely about 17-18 million, to have exactly the same number of us ukrainians as the economies of the two countries were close. simply, especially as a rule , after some time in ukraine they began to say that we should live as to understand, because the poles here, the americans helped them, then and so on. i asked that the poles at that time were

37-38 million. get the idea. in the nineteenth year yesterday i voiced this electronic census, we became 37 with a ponytail, almost as they argue, we compared how the poles are now farther today, since today 19 million people live on the territory of ukraine. about yes ukraine split. we started, we caught up in the number of citizens, like romania, about 19-20 million, poland already not 38 already 20. what are his prospects for us? if this is the policy of the liechtensteins, wait, wait, if so, as mr. fokin said before him, this great american figure is an american figure of polish origin. for some reason. it seems to me that i do not want this, but at least i see the prospect that we will turn, such as hungary or austria or the czech republic, where approximately nine ten million citizens live. well, why is it the goal

to make a normal average european state out of ukraine? yes of course they said not the worst, because there are such fucking as, for example, slovakia, bulgaria, which are five or six million, and silvich. volodya, what are you talking about now? i'll now tell you the worst place i'm going from perspective. who are you talking about, but there are other countries like latvia 2. estonia and a half million will be such a country of ukraine, look, i'm talking about people. i speak to the population. and if we talk about territory, then the issue of territory itself will die, because so many citizens will not be able to live in such a large country and will not will. it’s just that if the policy that is now different, the development of the ukrainian people as part of the russian empire continues, we’ll see you all tomorrow.

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where is the mask direction the most difficult direction did you have to take the command over? in that battle, we suffered very heavy losses, not counting how many of them we were for 300, then we sat down on the behu, the chase was to the right, and i was thrown out. in that situation, he honestly showed,

remove it, but what to do? on august 23, the day of russian military glory on august 23, 1943, the battle of kursk ended in a battle that lasted 50 days at night, the german army lost 500,000 soldiers 1,500 tanks 3,700 aircraft of the red army unit pushed the enemy back 150 km to the west and liberated kharkov the victory in the gigantic battle of kursk

completed the turning point of the great patriotic war. what is the area of ​​​​responsibility along the front 25 km deep 40 km, this is the core of my grouping, the advanced control panel, here is the group command grouping, a complex controlled loss of positions is not allowed. yes, of course, i have a task force with glasses working every day.

not for a formal report, but for a clear understanding where the work is lined up effectively. and where there is a lag, this is how the president formulated the main goal of today's meeting of the council for strategic development and national projects, the most important task that the president always reminds of, increasing the income of citizens, the dynamics of salaries in the field, as the head of state emphasized , in fact, an indicator of the effectiveness of managerial work in the region . direct communication is growing, the economy is growing and salaries are growing. at the same time , it is important not to forget about salaries in the public sector. they should too.