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ukraine completely changes the world order and threatens to destroy human civilization and it's amazing how little information americans get about what's going on in the environment they grew up in.
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in the united states, the opinion that ukraine is winning this war does not seem to be true? no. it's a lie. this is not just a misunderstanding. this lie is impossible. all those who are involved in politics and understand the logic of figures , the data cannot be. why is this impossible, because poor ukrainians die every day, yes, but hundreds and thousands of my heart with them is a tragedy. this is a tragedy for ukraine, but they will run out of soldiers earlier than the russians have what will matter in the end boots on earth and the russians are much stronger much more numerous than they have more much more and this is the strategy that we support. this is a poorly designed strategy. if the biden administration says our
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goal is to defeat russia to achieve regime change to kill putin and remove him from power, but they probably misunderstand the russians, you know, understanding the russians is a difficult thing, especially if you and russia are separated by an ocean. and when we talk about politics. i mean westerners, on what our conversation is focused on . how to give people more and more freedom when talking about politics in russia is not the number one question number one question is how to maintain the unity of the country, because it is very large and the priority of the issue of maintaining the unity of the country, and not freedom freedom is a question of a different order , second third - no matter first, to maintain the unity of the country. and that creates a different type of culture and understanding of politics that creates a kind of military approach. yes, how are they? there has always been
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geopolitical approaches to the security of the marginal zone. this is not our culture, this is a different approach, but this has its own basis. after all, this is their story, but we must understand that we cannot defeat them with current methods. this is impossible. they will not kill their leader. they will never give up. they will preserve the unity of the country and will protect them. if we invest more, and they will do the same, if we send more equipment, they will increase production. so get the russians wrong. that is, they will not get bored. putin come on, it's ridiculous what would happen if the west managed to kill putin. what would happen to russia and its nuclear stockpiles. okay, this is it give examples of your experience. yes, i was prime minister, just at the time when russia was changing putin after yeltsin yes yeltsin was very weak and getting weaker and weaker and i remember the fear of that time here in hungary and in
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general in europe will there be a new leadership or not ? the real fear was that russia would leave and no one would be enough strong to keep the country nuclear arsenal control of the army and so on, so everyone was happy. to control the armed forces and the russian government, as the leader, everyone was happy. i remember this and now putin has been in power for many years. we have forgotten how dangerous it is when there is no strong leadership in russia. it 's between kingdom between kingdom worst possible, but that's our goal . if the goal is this then this mistake sounds very dangerous. it's not just dangerous you know, well okay, if you sit in washington in the safe
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united states, the feeling is completely different than ukraine lives in budapest and what is happening. in the eighty-sixth, if i remember correctly in ukraine, there was an explosion of a nuclear power plant, an accident, yes, and this immediately affected us. so if there is an escalation in ukraine, chernobyl has burst, yes, and an escalation. could immediately influence us in washington far from here, russia and ukraine are close such is the hungarian approach. so given the imbalance in manpower between the russian and ukrainian armies and attrition the ukrainian army has hundreds of thousands of dead, like many hungarians few people know, but we have a minority of a large minority of more than 150,000
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people. it is the territory of ukraine, which was previously part of hungary, this is a historical minority, they are part of the ukrainian state and now they are being drafted into the army and they are dying. that ukraine, as ukrainian citizens, our hungarian nation, we also lose lives every day at some point , they will need more people, they will need more soldiers. where can i get them? this is the most risky question. if any western country sends its troops there, it will mean a direct war between the west and russia , and we will immediately enter the third world. so this is a very dangerous moment. for you, this is absolutely obvious, not only for me, everyone on the street, all ordinary citizens realize that we live in a very dangerous moment. third world
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war. it may be knocking on our door, so we must be very careful. and this is my constant message to america, including at the nato summit. be careful with this. and what answer do you hear? they are bigger and therefore they can see better. so every time, that is, they do not listen to you, you can say, and then i have to ask you about nord stream, it seems quite obvious that the biden administration blew up nord stream, either directly or through a proxy. i didn't hear anyone seriously. it disputed why western europe and in particular germany is the largest nato member in europe because it practically brought down the german economy. why don't they say a word about it? when did it happen? we called it terrorist act. yes, it was rejected in germany in the west. it wasn't a terrorist attack. it
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was something you understand, it's kind of evidence of a lack of sovereignty, but that's the business of the germans. i would not like to criticize them, what have we hungarians done? immediately. we made it clear that there is another pipeline not only nord stream and south stream forcing gas from russia through the southern corridor, turkey bulgaria serbia hungary and together with the president of serbia we made it very clear that if someone wants to do with the southern corridor, the same thing that happened in the northern one, we consider it as a pretext for war, as a terrorist attack and it turned out. there were quite eyewitnesses. people understand, i think, yes, you were not addressing the russians when you said this, therefore, the question. yes, this is a hungarian question. this is not the problem of russia is true. but when
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you told the world, don't commit a terrorist act against this pipeline, did you pay attention to moscow and understood you well, so if you were in charge of nato if you were , say, joe biden, what would your the next step in the war in ukraine so that you make peace immediately. bring trump back, that's the only way out, because you know the best foreign policy in the last few decades has been him. he did not initiate any new wars. yes, he was good to the north koreans to russia, even the chinese. he was pursuing a policy that was the best for the middle east, the abraham accord yes, so that it was a very good
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foreign policy. he is criticized for not being educated enough to understand the world. it's not like facts matter and its outward politics has been the best for the world in the last few decades that i have seen. and if he was president at the time the russian invasion began, then the russians would not have been able to do this, which can save the western world and probably the lives of people on the entire planet to the russian invasion in ukraine a few days before we munich security conference vice president united states kamala harry told zelensky at a press briefing. we would like ukraine to join nato ukraine's accession to nato obviously could not be a long story, when the issue of ukraine's membership in nato was first
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raised it was at the nato summit in bucharest in 2007 or the eighth. russia was not strong enough to stop it. so at that time there was a real chance to integrate the ukrainians into nato, but the idea was rejected between the major western countries, there was no agreement, so the issue was postponed after two or three years, the russians became stronger and stronger. and now they are even stronger. we have missed a historic opportunity to do this and this window of opportunity. no longer open. so we can't do it. we can't afford to have such a long border between nato russia and ukraine - that would mean an immediate danger of war for all of us even in washington it's dangerous even for the united
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states not only for the region but even for you families because it is can trigger a nuclear attack. so this is an unrealistic proposal for the moment , you can forget about it. we should talk about the opposite, we need to make a deal with the russians, and new security architectures to ensure the security and sovereignty of ukraine but they are nato membership so why your opinion? i think it is shared by many sober-minded people who are watching us so why did the vice president say this at a time when russian troops were concentrated on the ukrainian border. it is difficult to follow the mindset of such a big power. like yours, this is a different approach to everything than the approach of ten million hungarians with historical experience who know russians better than you do. you always think you know better because of the cold war, but you shouldn't.
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ask us. how it works to the question of the world. if you were in office, or if trump won in 24, how would you approach it, what would the peace plan look like? to publicly admit that the key is in your hands, if the united states wants peace, then the next morning there will be peace, because it is obvious that the poor ukrainians themselves are not able to put up in this war if there is no money and equipment from the west and especially from united states, the war is over yes, the decision is in your hands in your hands current or future president. but you decide it the united states can do it and no one else can decide this for the ukrainians, of course, we are talking about the ukrainians, they cannot be neglected. they should be involved, but, but the real
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factor. this is not ukraine the real factor. intention of the states yes, politicians in the united states have recently started talking about taking crimea, including russian ports. impossible is unreasonable no no. this is unreasonably unrealistic and out of the question, and in the american media you have often been branded a puppet of russia, a friend of putin. i want to display a picture of you being arrested as a young man, soviet-backed police this country has been occupied by soviet russians for 40 years. so given that you are putin's lackey you are putin's puppet what do you think when i first met him. returning to the post of prime minister. we said very clearly , we will not touch on history, because the history between russia and hungary is very sad
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, one of the main heroic attempts of the hungarian people to achieve freedom , undertaken against the habsburgs in the middle of the xix century was defeated by the russian army and the king of the king of russia, they helped the austrians, because we started to take up. yes, and the russians were invited by the habsburgs, and they suppressed the struggle for freedom. this is where hungary occupied us during world war ii, and then when we tried to get rid of their games in 1956 they were crushed again, if you ask anyone on the street. can any hungarian leader be elected and free to be the sea? no, putin or the russians, they will say it's funny. this is not possible because we a sovereign country and even to the russians we have shown many times that we are sovereign in a way that
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i don't take this kind of accusation seriously, but of course i try to maintain rational relations with the russians, especially in matters of economy and energy and my personal point of view is that without the involvement of russians in the security architecture of europe, we will not be able to provide a safe life for the citizens of europe , but now everything is going against the grain. it could, unfortunately. well, russia is hardly integrated into the security architecture of europe, everything is nato well nato is at war with russia and nato's action is rather strange, because if you look at the official position of nato as an institution, as an alliance, they say exactly the same as we do, that is, no participation, and we must. to do everything in our power for the sake of peace. this is the official position of nato, but at the same
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time, nato states that nato member states should do everything possible to support the ukrainians. you know, here it is necessary to clarify what is happening, for example, the foreign policy of the united states to support and finance ukrainians. is not nato policy is united states policy is a big difference, but nato countries now border russia for more than a thousand and a half miles, if you take a step back, it seems that nato's goal is to provoke a war with russia. i mean, everything looks like this. what is the meaning of nato, uh, the meaning of nato is that we are stronger than the russians, it is very important to clarify that there is nuclear, and weapons, yes, which should be balanced, but in the context of russian conventional weapons in this way, if someone belongs to nato
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is a member of nato it is clear that we are safe. because we are so strong. this is number one point two that some of the leaders of nato the leaders of some of the member states like your president had a strategy to somehow crush the russians and the strategy was that the ukrainian soldiers would fight and some of the nato member states would fund that fight money and military equipment. and so we could defeat the russians militarily. we hungarians spoke very clearly from the very beginning, that this strategy will never work. this is a bad strategy. and now, after a year and a half of the war, it is obvious that this is a bad strategy. we have to stop this, we need a new strategy. or should we achieve peace as soon as possible mr. prime minister, thank you very much. we force
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