a couple of revolutions are even more than according to our statistics. we all have chances, i don’t know if it will work out or not. we'll have to look at the market conditions and currency prices to see how this will influence, but maybe even this year we'll reach a trade turnover of 200 billion. it doesn't matter, even specific numbers are important, that we are actively developing our cooperation. we really do. mmm, an amazing relationship has developed in the field of international security and coordination. uh, our positions. yes, we act in each other's interests. imagine listening to each other in many important directions to listen and hear and react and were not directed there at the level and at the level of heads of state on the spot. uh, that means the authorities are safe and within the military, uh, cooperation with has reached unprecedented levels. uh, indicators,

well, what’s interesting is that we don’t create military alliances, and we don’t make friends against someone. we are friends in the interests of our peoples, so we will continue to work, eh? everything sounds great in relation to china, but there are also some problems. talked to businessmen, what they call yes, for example, china is in no hurry to open production in russia, ready. basically supply only finished products to the domestic market. for our goods, non -raw materials cannot be called open. in addition, we do not see the demand of chinese investors for instruments of the russian capital market, what is the problem? well, you know, uh, that means china is on its own and china is primarily taking risks out of its own interests. and we also do it in our own interests, uh, to say that we

hmm means that we do not respond to requests each other wrong. here is one of the one of such sensitive points as the opening of the chinese market for for our uh. uh , china also has problems with the coal industry. and they also want their miners to supply their products to the domestic market, nevertheless they open the market for our coal industry, and they open it quite decently. yes, we still cannot agree on mixing there. you see, they have their own government contracts, and they especially don’t interfere in relations with businesses that have established connections. yes, we need to resolve issues. this means that we

had to close these problems. these are all current issues that require work at different levels of interaction. we share. uh, to each of them and i am sure that the problems that you mentioned will be solved, but we also need to work more actively and show our advantages and our chinese partners are reacting to this, you say this is an enterprise from no one, and in tula that they opened an automobile plant, an automobile plant, why doesn’t it open? it means, uh, well, they need to watch too. what's the market like? how much investment will they make, how will this investment pay off? this means that we also have issues on our side that we must resolve and provide to the investor. eh, well, good conditions. and we work well in high-tech areas. we continue

to build, uh, china and there are no power plants there, and in quite a number of these, this is where we are certainly leaders and uh, we are demonstrating very good results domestically and internationally. well, they evaluate and give us this work, give us these sites. and although they themselves are developing nuclear energy, but, uh, taking into account certain hmm means the competitive advantages of our proposals. they go for it; we must agree in the region. there, let's say shirokov of the jumbo aircraft. it's a tough job, but uh, well, we're moving forward. although negotiations have been going on for a long time. but nevertheless, let’s say in the field of helicopter structures, where we have obvious competitive advantages. well, in global terms we are working together with

the chinese. and uh, these airplanes with a large payload, helicopters with a large we will produce with lifting capacity. eh, there are also agreements that work in space. where despite certain problems? we also have competitive advantages, and they calmly agree to this joint work. eh, but we must admit that the people's republic of china, i want to emphasize once again, is under the leadership of today's leader. eh, i've achieved great results. in the field of high technology. we have to talk through all this with them, and such work is going on to talk through all of this and look at it. where are they? will there also be benefits for cooperation with us? yes, good conditions are normal. eh, that means normal commercial activity. yes, but the important thing is that it is based on very good things.

these are lasting fountains of mutual trust. and i am sure that we will move ahead, simply high technologies. you said you probably don't know, but now the chinese have scared the us with what they have done. they installed their seven-nanometer chip in new smartphones. they scared that they were big , one and a half billion, and the economy was developing at a breakneck pace. that's what they scared and this is a problem for the states. wow. and chips are important. yes, but this element is only one of the elements. ok, a few questions. uh, in continuation of the topics related to solzhenitsa in july, the special correspondent of the newspapers of merchants , andreika lestnikov, who will write wonderful articles about this film tomorrow in kommersant, we will assume that he, uh, talked to you and brought up parallels between the present time and the year 307. you answered him that it is now 23 years old. i disagree with andrey on this point. another thing that comes to mind is 922, the so-called

in fact, their philosophical passage was not the only one, and not only were people sent on ships, and so on, people were forced to leave the country; the bolsheviks did this ; they are leaving the country of the soviets now. we don’t agree, they leave on their own. no one is kicking them out, but the country is again depriving talented people. this is how this loss, uh, in your opinion , will affect the development of russia, you know, every person, uh, makes his own choice. god, they talked about this, well, according to different estimates. these are the same journalists who are counting cultural figures somewhere, somewhere around 160 people, worth 1070 went abroad. uh, they don't agree with the policies of the russian state. well, you can disagree with the policies of the russian state and be here and talk about it. nobody forbids it, but someone chose to travel tied up. it's not just about position. e people, that means in

the field of art. uh, from the position of her, uh, not agreeing with the fact that the leadership of the russian federation is also with material things. after all , we bought apartments in recent years. there are accounts abroad there, which means people want to keep it and are afraid of losing it, and therefore, including i am not saying that this is the only one. reason no, no, of course, that’s also why they still go and sit in order to keep everything they are required to do. that's good too. it is known, demand that they declare, demand that they criticize , demand that they denounce. well, they criticize and denounce. uh, well, i repeat, there are those who hmm who sincerely disagree with the fact that the russian state is making the russian authorities, i repeat, no one is stopping them from criticizing the future here, but they are going ahead. well, god bless

this is their decision, but has russian culture suffered? well, probably there is, if there is a person who could do something here hmm uh, he left, they probably lost something, but on the other hand. i’ll be honest, maybe we’ll get it then. let him do the interests abroad, uh, that he wants to serve, than here it will drip on the brains of millions of our citizens and promote them. some unconventional values. you see, this is why the question here is complex, but in the end, the person himself , the arbiter of his own destiny, made the decision to go. fine. everything works for us, thank you. god theatres, concert halls and exhibition halls. this means that many artists have venues here , travel to the area where a special military operation is taking place, and support our e guys heroes. there uh on the front line. eh, they made this choice, and they

are definitely doing everything they do in the interests of the russian people, for sure. tomorrow or today, here are the new wave of migrants, they will watch or read western ones. the media about this plenary session is important for everyone to understand whether the road back to russia was open for them or not, no one closed it. they went on their own, but who said don’t come. but we can’t, because what’s the matter is that, in accordance with russian law, uh, russian citizens can live wherever they want, but no one can deprive him of citizenship and ban him from childhood in the russian federation. i ask one more question. and the so-called transformation is punishment. we remember, or rather, we read everything that happened in tsarist russia, exile in hard labor, then in the ussr, the red terror of repression, then mental hospitals. and now in modern russia we have the title of foreign agent. i counted. now the number

of individuals and organizations in our country together with this title has already exceeded 400 every friday. we see, uh, new names , new names, in your opinion. we are not everyone and is there a mechanism? well, a person has become an agent, but how can he stop being an agent? what needs to be done in general, we don’t row anyone, whom we row, which means this law has been in effect since 1900, thirty, i think in the seventh or thirty-eighth year in the usa it is almost a copy, only it is much more liberal, but we constantly talk about this , and the law of the united states provides for criminal prosecution and prison. for some there is what an inogen is, in russia it is a person who is engaged in public activities for the money of a foreign state. and this law does not prohibit. even for him to continue to engage in this activity, he only demands that

the person open sources of financing. but if you uh, we know well what’s there, who someone pays who orders the music, if they pay here within the country to those people who are engaged in public activities, then at least show it. source of your funding there is nothing like that here, however, there are many nuances and human rights activists have repeatedly. this was pointed out to me by many nuances related to the fact that uh, hmm , this law includes people who are not really engaged in public activities ; they are engaged in, i don’t know, something else in ecology. well, yes, and we are making adjustments. i keep asking law enforcement agencies and prosecutor's office uh, investigative authorities. uh, make some suggestions on how this procedure can be improved, but if you ask, is it possible to get out of this status? yes, it is possible and there are such precedents through a court decision.

and the question that is connected with ukraine, anthony blinken, secretary of state recently visited ukraine, then returned and now gave an interview to abc in which he said that ukraine is ready to negotiate with russia and added that the conditions of the future border will depend on the opinion of ukraine, while the present time. according to him, peace negotiations are unattainable. because the quote for a tank requires two. that is, he seems to be hinting that russia does not want to go to these negotiations. i have two questions here. how do you comment on this and the second , what do you think is the reason for this position of the secretary of state? he heard what you said in sochi that the condor offensive failed and now it’s time to talk and a third question. why secretary of state? the us secretary of state makes such statements for ukraine. well, you ask him what he is doing from ukraine there some statements. i don't know, regarding the negotiation process, if the united

states believes that ukraine is ready to negotiate. but then let them cancel the decree of the president of ukraine which prohibits negotiations. there's maternity leave. the president came out. he forbade himself to negotiate and everyone else. damn, he says that they are ready. well, well, the decree is a decree, as they call it later, now in general, what is connected with it. well in my opinion. it’s clear that ukraine is conducting a so-called counter-offensive. of course not, the result is a big loss. this counter-offensive resulted in the loss of 71,500 personnel, and at any cost, as they say, they want to achieve results. sometimes i said here the impression that these are

not their people at all, who are throwing them into this counter-offensive, as if they were not people at all. just a commander. yes, it turns out that this is more surprising, and you constantly call them on the phone. but, uh, well, the losses there are big in dances: 500, 43 tanks, vehicles of different classes have already lost armor in terms of armor, almost 18,000, and so on, which means, therefore, uh, therefore one gets the impression that they want it, as their western curators are pushing them to do as much as they can, and then when, uh, all the resources and human resources and uh, in terms of technology and supplies, are close to zero values, to achieve a stop in hostilities, say , but we have been talking for a long time about

the fact that we want negotiations and begin these negotiations in order to replenish our resources and restore combat capability, which means our native forces. this is the tactic. well , perhaps, in any case, this is one of the options, i repeat, if it is sincere the desire to achieve something during the negotiation process. well then they let me go and do it. what the hell is this? let the ukrainians say it themselves. the decree is canceled. so, they told me and declare, of course, they told me publicly that i would not negotiate. miss what the losses want. uh, well, that could be the first step on the other side. after which we will be ready to

negotiate. listen to me from all sides, well , from many sides. uh, ours, uh, that means the tv we communicate with is or would like to act as mediators hmm they say, but they are ready to stop the fighting. well , how can we stop hostilities if the operational side carries out a counter-offensive, they will counter- offensive, and we tell them to stop. we are not a trotskyist movement, everything is the ultimate goal , nothing is a bad theory. that is, it turns out that first the cue must stop the fighting, and then we will be ready to talk. listen. i already said, first they must cancel the decree prohibiting negotiations and declare that they want to be ready for this, that’s all, and then we’ll see, uh, i ask about the supply of weapons and then

ask the president about the houses, because this is also a sore subject for you. you said a little about it, but a decision was made to supply shells with combined damage. now they are saying that there is a chance that missiles and long-range missiles up to 300 km will also appear in ukraine , but first, what do you think, will this help turn the tide at the front? and secondly, how will we react to this? you know we this has already been said, but i have to repeat it just recently. er, that means the us administration believed that the use of cluster munitions was a war crime. they publicly said about it, they supply uh, cluster munitions. uh , cluster munitions to the war zone in ukraine , but at the same time they say that it’s not the united states, we didn’t sign the ban on but we’re not talking about

that now, as they say in the village. i told others publicly that this is a crime and are committing these actions. in general, they didn’t give a damn about what people thought about them, they always they do everything exclusively in their own interests. so they thought that since the ammunition was running out of 155 caliber. yes, and it is difficult to produce them in european countries. i'm in the usa and they give me arsenals. into what is. here is a cassette, or a cassette, which means with combined uranium. and this goes there too. well, all this is a crime, oh, they themselves said, not me, they said that this is a crime, but this is the case. nothing helps. they supplied it a long time ago , i’ll deliver it. yes, of course, it does the opposite in vain, the same contamination of the area occurs. it’s bad, of course, very bad. and

the bunch, by the way, became rich. no. no, nothing like that will happen, we don’t know what it is, that this kind of contamination of the area of ​​the ussr is happening , which means uh, and uh. in this regard, what will change , i’ve changed this one so far. the british have been supplying these shells for a long time now, and it has changed something on the battlefield. no, here they are going. uh, f-16 supply will change. this is not the case. this simply prolongs the conflict. here they have, uh, the chosen process begins in november. no matter what no matter what they need to show, at least some kind of result, they push the ukrainians with military proposals here and no matter what they say publicly, because they don’t feel sorry for the ukrainians. oddly enough, today’s ukrainian leadership doesn’t feel sorry for throwing their people into the furnace, that’s all. will this change

anything? i think that i’m not sure that it will prolong the conflict. yes, that’s why it’s prolonging, but you know we’re worried about other restrictions. no. here. eh, now i’ll tell you the story of one quite recently. so, uh, as a result of a clash on our territories. e in the federal security service. uh, collision enters. oh yes, several people were killed there and the rest were taken prisoner. it turned out that this was a sabotage group. uh, ukrainian special services. yeah, they're coming. questioning what they show the task. they had to damage one of our nuclear power plants to supply uh power lines uh high-voltage power transmission for the purpose. uh,

ultimately an attempt to disrupt the operation of the power plant. at the same time , during interrogation they showed that they were preparing under the guidance of british designers. they do they even understand what they are not playing with or not? i don’t think anything provokes us to take any kind of retaliatory action on the ukrainian nuclear power plant , in general, the british leadership and the prime minister know what the intelligence services are doing in ukraine or maybe they don’t know at all, yes, they allow such things, which in turn. uh, the british intelligence services act on the instructions of the same americans, but they understand what they are playing with or not. it seems to me that they simply underestimate me, i

know that after my words there is now a howl starts, there is another threat , nuclear blackmail, and so on. i assure you that this is the absolute absolute truth of what i just said. well, these gavriks are sitting here. they are sitting with us. we also give testimony knowing the possible reaction. yes, they are there, whatever you say at gunpoint, and they broadcast it. no it's not like that. the leadership of the british intelligence services knows that i am telling the truth. well, i’m not sure, in general, whether the uk leadership understands what this is? and it's these uh things that really bother you because they don't feel the uh edges like people say this to us and can lead to serious consequences. but we understand that we will not hit the nuclear energy structure. i told you that maybe they are provoking us to these actions. madam

vice president, a question for you: did you, uh , touch on the topic of cluster munitions, the war in vietnam ended, if i’m not mistaken, in seventy-five. but now how much did these bombings that took place in laos affect the lives of civilians, and how they continue to influence to this day. regarding cluster munitions, and also not exploding remnants of the war. i think that the number of such objects is still extremely high, we are still and, of course, we will experience a serious problem with these unexploded remnants of the war, we receive humanitarian

assistance, technical assistance from russia from international organizations, however , so far. we have failed to clear our territories with devastating consequences for our people. any any, of course, many lives were taken away, and with this there are a lot of orphans in the lpr. whose parents died because of remnants of the war; moreover, such objects are an obstacle to the development of agriculture, since many arable lands were seriously damaged by cluster munitions. in this regard

, the lao government. attaches great importance to resolving this humanitarian issue, including in partnership with russia as well as with international organizations. how many more years will it take to completely clear the area? the war in laos continued for more than 30 years. this is one of the longest wars. in history in the use of cluster munitions, one of the tactics used in that war, we still do not have estimates as to how many more years it will take to

neutralize the remnants of the war, but without any doubt, the lpr government is working in close cooperation, both with friendly countries , and with international organizations in order to solve this problem as quickly as possible thank you to comment on this no, i just want to add. local specialists have already trained 150 people who are engaged in mine clearance from local citizens vladimirovich i will now ask about armenia a year ago here on this stage. nikolayevich pushinyan was sitting and i saw how you communicate, on the sidelines, and it seemed to me that there was quite absolutely normal communication. now we are reading about what, in my opinion, began yesterday, and the army is going to american exercises. ah, pashinyan’s wife went to kiev and the speaker of the armenian parliament allowed himself very impartial statements about our foreign ministry. why

did this reversal of armenia happen? how will this affect it in general? and on the situation on the border with azerbaijan and what could this lead to for armenia? well, i don't think there is any reversal, we um we see and understand what is happening. eh, you know about this. you can talk a lot. well, we offered our options for settlement and to hide something. there, it seems to me that it is well known that armenia controlled seven regions, which it brought under its control, after the famous armenians. e of the azerbaijani conflict. we proposed, uh, proposed to come to an agreement with azerbaijan in such a way that the two regions or the jar lachins remained under the jurisdiction of virtually armenia and all of karabakh , but the armenian leadership did not agree with this, even though they tried to convince the armenian leadership for 10-15. well,

different options, but in the end it all came down to this. our question is, what will you do? no matter how they answer us, we will fight. well, okay, so in the end, everything came to the situation that has developed today, but it’s not just about the results. uh, these uh, this last conflict you are also doing is that the armenian leadership, but in essence, well, not in essence, but recognized the sovereignty of azerbaijan here in karabakh in its prague statement. eh, just got it down on paper. well, we know about it here. well, what can i say, now president aliyev tells me,

well, you know that armenia has recognized that karabakh has recognized us, that the question of the status of karabakh is no longer on the table, it has been resolved by the armenian leadership. she publicly stated this, counting the entire territory before 1991 within the framework of the azerbaijani ussr, which included, uh, which, of course, includes the territory of karabakh itself. well, it happened. this same decision is the decision of the armenian leadership today to deal with.