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present to find typical features and recognizable signs of the past. and that's what we'll talk about today. 80 years of the liberation of donetsk and mariupol from the nazis, history lessons, what the events of the great patriotic war tell us today , conversation with the expert program alexander zakharchenko what was he and what did he mean for novorossiya? this year marks the eightieth anniversary of several large-scale turning points in the great patriotic war - the battle of stalingrad and the encirclement of the largest group of nazis. victory in the largest tank battle in history humanity. on the kursk bulge. these days celebrated the eightieth anniversary of the liberation of donetsk and other events that led to

our victory in donbass in september 1943 in scale. that battle is inferior to the stalingrad and kursk battles. however, its strategic significance was no less important than the defeat of the germans on the volga and near kursk and orel, the country returned huge reserves of coal, already in the year forty-four more than 21 million were mined and a vast area in the ukraine donbass red army you. on the line dnepropetrovsk or poplar and was preparing to cross the dnieper eventually by the end of the forty-third year. it was possible to almost completely liberate left-bank ukraine, take dnepropetrovsk, zaporozhye and kiev during the battle for donbass, soviet troops broke through the powerful nazi fortification system mius, the front, the so-called three lines

of engineering structures of otcups and pillboxes, which went from the sea of ​​azov to the donetsk ridge along the right high bank the mius river, in the german defense system there was also the famous kurgan of sauromagil, less than 100 km from donetsk forty-third after fierce fighting. soviet troops took it by storm. today it is difficult to resist drawing parallels to the battles for this strategic height. conducted several times in august 2014. she passed from hand to hand. tugi dpr troops stood in shawarma, another bright page from 80 years ago in the mariupol landing in 1943, the city was liberated, with several simultaneous attacks by land and sea, one of the landing detachments landed in the village, yalta, 25 km western

mariupol, it was once founded by the crimean sins , the second entered the mariupol land port units of the 44th army and the guards kuban cavalry corps entered the city; reports from the southern front participated in the battle for donbass, briefly and capaciously , on september 10, the troops developed success in all directions, advanced to a depth of 12 to 28 km and liberated 123 settlements, in including the cities of mariupol and volnovakha about how the donbass now remembers the events of eighty years ago. and what parallels arise with today’s day in the story of anna efimova’s years of the great patriotic war during the assault on this height more than 23,000 soldiers and officers of the fifth

shock army were killed today, the eternal flame burns here in memory of the heroes of two wars at once , the past and the present, they defended the village from there. well, the old man was ambushed. well , he defended to the end their cultures of soviet infantrymen from obelisk fragments destroyed by bullets and shell fragments. this is what kurgan looks like in 2014 after the shelling and the end of the new war for donbass. the battles for him lasted exactly 52 days in august 1943. it was this height that became the springboard for further successful liberation action behind was the turning point of the battle of stalingrad. the guns died down and in the largest tank battle in history near prokhorovka , donbass was next in line; the fate of the operation of the southern front

largely depended. uh, from taking this height because it was precisely after the collapse of the defenses of the hallet army, which actually occurred after the fall. ah, the germans began to retreat. from donbass donbass was under occupation virtually from the very beginning of the war, donetsk , which at that time was called stalin. in '41, the nazis demonstratively renamed vyuzovka back. the very first the pre-revolutionary name that the mining village received after the english industrialist. under the screen of the fight against the bolsheviks, the local population. they tried to convey the historical message that it was supposedly not the russian lands at all, and certainly not the soviet ukrainian ones after the 2014 coup d’etat, the ukrainian authorities according to fascist patterns. the first thing they did was to rename cities and villages, everything that was radial, that is, what was soviet had to be destroyed. but first he had a special

military operation that began bloody staging and provocation of bodies allegedly tortured by the russian military of civilians on the streets of gucci, massacres at the railway station in kramatorsk, ukrainian missiles were passed off as russian and , of course, the recent shelling of markets under the control of ukraine konstantinovka again, allegedly by russians by an amazing coincidence of circumstances that coincided with the arrival in kiev of us secretary of state anthony brunkin. the nazis tried to deceive the population. uh, in particular, for example, one of these techniques was mass murder for the first time. uh, one e occupation of mariupol by local residents. they were killed in the building of the nkvd and a few days later they were shown as victims, here are the murders, and from the side of the nkvd and by this

they tried to achieve the effect of hatred, yes from the side of the local population towards the bolsheviks communists 1943, such as the total length of the soviet german the fleet was over four thousand kilometers, specifically the dam was cleared. in total, more than one million people, interrupted by kherson and crimea , the offensive was carried out simultaneously by troops the southwestern front under the command of the army general, the rodionovsky and southern fronts. the colonel general supported azov and was paid. the constant offensive and constant impact of the southern south-western front on the stripes of the first tank and sixth field army led to the fact that the group had to constantly choose an army. but what is more important for them, kharkov or donbass, in the end this led to the complete depletion of the reserves and defensive capabilities of

the army group south, and its further collapse. renewing the largest port in mariupol was a practically strategically important task for the red army. at the very beginning of the war, the germans captured the city almost without a fight and almost paralyzed the production of soviet tanks. the mariupol plant named after ilyich had a direct connection to the tank industry of the ussr even before the start of the great patriotic war, it supplied t-34 hulls for kharkov in the contrasting construction city, the city was liberated from several directions at the same time and the enemy had only a small corridor along which he could retreat, but nevertheless how we see that six 600 enemy people were destroyed on the spot in the city itself. that is , these are quite serious forces that hmm the nazis intended to use, uh, while holding this city in 2022 , the militants also tried to hold mariupol until the last. they turned azov, the second largest city in donbass, into their main base and a powerful

ukrainian force, evacuating the civilian population before the start of a full-scale military operation. action. ukraine intends not to carry out the last and main outbreak. the resistance has become plant azov steel was originally going to be taken by storm; to avoid unnecessary losses, it was decided to completely block the entire industrial zone along the perimeter. after several days of siege, militants. azov chose to surrender and was seriously raised. mariupol was completely liberated 3 months after it began; for comparison, the entire donbass offensive operation during the great patriotic war lasted only 40 days. now analogies arise. so what is it? now why was it like this then, perhaps the problem of the forces of concentration of forces at that time is you know, it was a powerful machina and a stream of fire, such an armored fist and someone got hit, he, unfortunately, died, losses

were not taken into account, that’s why it turned out so quickly the results of the germans’ stay in the donbass - this is a scorched earth, destroyed cities, massacres of civilians into the mine, four fraction four bis in the kalininsky region. tens of thousands of people were dumped alive in donetsk. when the red army soldiers came to the city , a terrible picture of 360 m opened up to them. the depths, the mines were filled with bodies 310 , such a one cannot be erased from memory. donbass in first of all, for us, this is a home that we love very much and will never give it away. every time donbass was reborn from the ashes, a completely restored monument, on the saur grave there is a bright confirmation of this. today the flags of russia and new russia are flying over the sacred heights anna efimova valery savelyev anastasia popova is a typical new russia.

we will talk about the meanings that the events of 80 years ago and the memory of them give rise to today with our regular expert historian and political scientist alexander vasiliev. sasha, good afternoon. hello eightieth anniversary of liberation. donetsk from the nazis in the mariupol landing liberation of the city in forty-three. this is today for donbass for novorussia. eh, glorious pages of history or do these events have some new meaning in the current circumstances of difficult historical memory. yes, it is actually focused on donbass. around industrialization , first of all, and around the great patriotic war, and secondly, yes, that is, it was. well , this focus of internal self-awareness is very important, and not without reason for the people of donbass. e such a complex as saurgila. yes, it was

just such a real sacred place back in soviet times, and people just flocked in their cars until mass. people came on may 9, so on may 8 there were usually events there. this was such a very important element of local identity, so it’s not for nothing that the st. george’s ribbon became the symbol of the uprising . yes, which directly, uh, appeals specifically to the events of the great patriotic war , it’s impossible to get rid of these associations when we see, uh, burning tanks of characteristic angular shapes with white means tactical signs of crosses, yes, with well-known ukrainian names. yes, in which these predators repeat the cat, and we see them burning in the middle. here is the novorossiysk steppe, otherwise it’s even impossible. if, however, the most skeptical, so to speak, disposition, it would not be impossible, so to speak , to retain these associations, and i can say that at the front it is widespread. now there are two definitions

for the enemy; one is not printed; we will not voice it on the air; and the second is the germans. they say the germans took the germans there or there repelled the german attack. well, between us we are not for the press for anyone. that’s it, there it is. this is such a clear appeal to those events and i will repeat it. it’s not that there is some kind of propaganda there, there are different ones and so on. this is some kind of carriage, in reverse. this is what is coming from the people from the depths in ukraine this year zelensky’s decree came out and i will no longer celebrate may 9. victory day was moved to the eighth anniversary this year. e in kiev on the eightieth anniversary of the liberation of the city from the nazi nazis invaders people living in donbass and the rest of ukraine they are practically people of the same generation e grandfathers fought in the red army why such a different approach? well

, there are also two such moments here. it’s symbolic, it’s also very clear. it’s literally just recently that this change of coat of arms took place, and also the renaming. eh , mother’s homeland, mother ukraine yes, but we won’t forget about this somehow, by the way, for some reason this point is usually omitted so much that it’s not easy. well, there's such a big statue there, which symbolizes, and by profession i’m mistaken, she crowns the museum. ahh. it stands on the territory of the museum and the positive war of cadora has been renamed the museum of the second world war. and this is a very, very illustrative story. that is, this is how it sees, this is the state. yes, how does a see this? well, let's say ideologically the apparatus, therefore, accordingly, not the ninth eighth yes, because this is the second world war. that is, they seem to associate themselves as, well, not participants in these events. and i don't know what to say, i can't watch would like to go after them. yes, like the orders that simply followed the gaze, well, the different armies that entered came out and so they see this

, uh, as if such a mental history of this european integration, well, of course, there is a second component, which immediately, maybe with current events . yes, because objectively we a know, first of all, western publications, the scale of losses that ukraine is now suffering in combat losses. yes, these are hundreds of thousands of people, and uh, indeed, ukraine has already approached, let’s say, the state when before, every family had a veteran, yes, of the great patriotic war. and now in every family there is, uh, someone who, ah, well, definitely participated in one way or another, as it were, and even more so , can’t even be returned. moreover, he died or returned disabled, and of course. this is what current events are. they completely cover up, as if everything that happened in the past is not even what is in the textbooks. yes, but what constituted may be the historical memory of a particular family. now that's all. well, let's say it's brilliant compared to those

emotions that a are experiencing now and the basis of this new identity, of course , lies the current conflict. and everything that somehow contradicts this is the history of the great patriotic war. she uh hmm appeals to something common. moreover , this year marks the 5th anniversary of the general confrontation since the death of the first head of the dpr, alexander zakharchenko would definitely be in this nile. eh, at the monuments he would take part in ceremonial events. did you know him personally, what was the memory of the great patriotic war for him? well, when i talked about that with the fourteenth year for the people who took up arms there to defend their land, and for defense. i would tell my soul, yes, their identities for them, this is historical memory, a huge role. and alexander zakharchenko, uh, his uniqueness lies precisely in the fact that he was such an absolutely uh, organic son. yes, this may

sound somewhat pretentious, but he was such an ordinary person who had a mine there. and so to speak background. yes, i can cite one such episode, one military man, right here with a machine gun. so, he asked a question instead of combat training. here we are doing marching. and this was just it and the ninth ointment with fish preparation. this is not what you need to think about. and when i heard the long-awaited question. he said, “and your unit will be in the parade squad and you personally, which means i’m asking for the device.” and you will march in formation for the rest of the week, day and night. that is about this way. yes, what did he mean? yes, this is a component that is connected with this historical memory. she is also very is important, and it should not be missed at all. and then he himself was wounded in debaltsevo. i met him personally for the first time and got to know him. he was in the hospital

and because in fact, it seemed like a simple wound, it took a long time to heal, it was a leg. and so he had to take that very parade that i was talking about. yes, he even just had to stand for a long time. he even had to sit there for a long time, the doctors simply forbade him, of course. it was absolutely sacred. sasha thank you very much for the interesting details story. at the end of august, novorossia celebrated the mournful date of the fifth anniversary of the death of the first head of the dpr, alexander zakharchenko. he and his bodyguard died as a result of a terrorist attack in the center of donetsk; an explosion occurred in a cafe, and 12 more people were injured. the fate of alexander zakharchenko is a vivid illustration of why donbass rebelled in the fourteenth and who were these people, the leaders of the russian spring, in novorossiya, he was born into

a mining family, his mother was russian, his father was. the ukrainian graduated from a technical school in donetsk and worked in a mine. then he went into business zakharchenko led the local branch of the social-patriotic movement of the stronghold in the spring of 14, on its basis, one of the first units of the militia of the donetsk people's republic was created in may 2014 after the referendum on self-determination of donbass, alexander zakharchenko was appointed military commandant of donetsk , then the deputy head of the ministry of internal affairs of the republic commanded the unit of the stronghold, he was first wounded in the summer of 14 during storming of donetsk airport already in august alexander zakharchenko becomes chairman of the council of ministers of the republic and another 3 months after winning the elections the head of the dpr is recognized as the leader of the republic in

the cabinet. they can’t sit in february of the fifteenth, he participated in the minsk negotiations, and after 5 days he fought near debaltsevo, was wounded and received the title of hero of the dpr about what this man meant for donbass, what he managed to do and what he dreamed about in the story of olga mokhova’s freedom of man ? on november 4, 2014, at school number four in the city of donetsk, at the end of the school day , a call was heard from the ministry of education. after 15 minutes , a car drove up to the teachers to gather at the entrance and a group of teachers was taken to donetsk academic theater, where the inauguration of the head took place, then the self-proclaimed dpr alexander

zakharchenko did not forget his teachers and in general treated this profession with special respect for you, my dear teachers, congratulate you on this holiday, because without you our teachers are educators. what have we become? as we are, according to the stories of his parents, he dreamed of being a military man; his relatives served in the army professionally on his mother’s and father’s sides, but it didn’t work out. but he was always the leader and leader of the courtyards and school ventures. the thing is, for some reason he had one. well, i don’t know the charisma that everyone was somehow drawn to him. there were even older guys. he will gather them there, but something is sitting there telling them something about this very thing. so they listened to him. well, he tried around himself and he doesn’t like flying. we intend not to rewrite this answer until now. this is everyday life in donetsk, all absolutely residents. this is how the people of alexander zakharchenko live, and when he went

to join the militia, his parents did not dissuade their son ; they did not know. since he had made a decision, persuasion. the senseless ones were alarming, of course, and took upon myself such a huge answer. so i once asked him alexander: could you do all this? to go somewhere, to go do business there somewhere, he’s a dad, he says, that’s what you ’re asking me. my dad named me the same. although he’s dad, you ask him, but you don’t believe him, so what, you say in the donbass in 2014 that it was not professional military miners , entrepreneurs, drivers, engineers who took up arms, but absolutely everyone respected him and his call sign . dad zakharchenko received for always being next to the fighters and ate with them in the same place, damn it, i even came under fire. well, why were they respected for their courage, that’s 100%, eh, the military , they probably weren’t as brave as he was this time. secondly, zakarchenko delved into all military issues. all you had to do was see

the car in which zakharchenko was driving, in which there was a machine gun. she was all covered in dust. and there, well, such a military machine is a plus. it was not for nothing that he always wore uniform, because he really went to the front every day. that is, he was aware, only 22 january. in 1515, in donetsk there was supposed to be a transfer to the ukrainian side of the bodies killed in the battles for the donetsk airport. and also a meeting between alexander zakharchenko and the relatives of the military taken captive, and on that day a tragedy occurred in the basa microdistrict , a public transport stop, donetskgurmash, 15 dead , came under mortar fire 13 were wounded, but the head of the dpr kept his word given earlier; the transfer and the meeting took place; there is simply anger in the military unit , poison in punitive forces and moral monsters. this concept just became wild even for me

compatible. they know that she and i are not dead. they shoot our peaceful lives and war and peace. he had to simultaneously solve the problems of military strategy and the everyday problems of his fellow countrymen, and in this, zakharchenko also did not fit into the standard ideas about a leader. here is just one episode when it was not possible to convince local trade representatives to reduce food prices. zakharchenko gave the command to buy a lot of potatoes in the neighboring rostov region and sell them in donetsk at the lowest price. after that, they began to listen more to the requests of the head of the dpr by helicopter and they did not put him here. there as a result of a military coup. he was the same as them. he came into motion in the same way. he's exactly what they thought. and what’s more, he was really worried. he really cared about people, having no experience in public administration, as it turned out at the time, zakharchenko nevertheless determined for himself at that time three primary tasks to achieve recognition

by the russian federation of the results of the referendum in donbass and the simplified extradition of the russian citizenship to the population of the republic and its integration into russia, the ideological concept was formulated simply by freedom, justice , conscience and equality. i don't know who it would be. if it were not zakharchenko, i can’t say right now. that’s because who could develop the republic like this and who could put him at the head of the republic like him? yes, it doesn’t even occur to me, in short, man. he fit so perfectly into this time and these events in front of the government house. there is a street named after alexander zakharchenko dokuchaevsky or poplars and other cities. according to the stories of his relatives, he himself dreamed when that the war would cover the main artyom street, donetsk street - a large table for everyone, so that it would stretch from lenin square to the now infamous donetsk airport olga mokhova anastasia popova valery savelyev a typical novorossiya?

that's all we wanted to talk about. kirill vyshinsky was with you today. see you soon.

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