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drop it on hitler, you dropped it on someone on whom physics could, yes, physics is physics on this politician ’s play copenhagen. michael frayn, production edinburgh lyceum theatre. she found it here at the moscow art theater. about 20 years ago, oleg tabakov, with the artistic director in the leading role, had a fictitious story of the meeting of two great physicists who worked on the creation of the atomic bomb, the german, vernor, heisenberg and the dachan nilsar, a passionate argument about the immoral responsibility of the scientist for the fruits of his labors. one of the first to assess the danger of nuclear potential was the danish physicist niels bohr, the creator of the first quantum theory of the atom, who paved the way for the use of the energy of nuclear processes and felt responsibility for the fate of his discovery after the war, the scientist tried in every possible way to prevent competition in the field of atomic

energy and direct it into a peaceful direction. wrote memoranda and open letters. at the un, he sought meetings with the leaders of countries and called for a complete ban on the use of nuclear weapons, to ensure strict international control of the rear, and at the same time, to the destruction of the monopoly on the peaceful use of atomic energy after the successful test of the atomic bomb to the head of the manhattan project , robert open keimer. nahum came lines and sacred hindu scripture bhagavad gita. now i have become the death of the destroyer of worlds. whether this is true or not is not entirely clear. but such a scene appears in the latest siege bombs biopic. and although he never felt guilty about participating in the nuclear project, after the bombing of japan, oppenheimer became a supporter of the non-use of nuclear weapons and , together with albert einstein, founded the bulletin of atomic scientists. it is a magazine and

organization to warn humanity about the dangers of nuclear weapons. he later openly opposed the nuclear race and creation of a hydrogen bomb in the ussr after the first tests. the first nuclear weapon, its creator andrei sakharov, became a consistent fighter for peace and advocated the abandonment of nuclear tests. according to his calculations, the explosion of a one-megaton thermonuclear charge. capable of killing more than six and a half thousand people over 8,000 years. all this is supposedly due to the mutations that radiation causes in the mid-fifties in the background. during the number of nuclear tests in london , an anti-war appeal by russell einstein was published in which scientists warned the public about the catastrophic consequences of using the hydrogen bomb and the need to consolidate the scientific community to prevent world nuclear war, the manifesto was signed by 11

world-famous scientists, who later united in the pagush movement of scientists for peace, it was led by the british physicist and radio biologist joseph roth back in the forties he worked over the manhattan project, but soon realizing the possible consequences of using a bomb, he left it and became an active peacemaker. the conference marked the beginning regular meetings are largely thanks to them , the moscow treaty of 1963 appeared, and the ban on testing nuclear weapons in the atmosphere, space and under water, as well as the treaty on nuclear proliferation. weapons and the limitation of sampling systems in the mid -seventies, the ussr and the usa managed to achieve nuclear parity , the spouses julius and the rosenberg hotel contributed to this by transferring the secret of the nuclear bomb to moscow. they believed that the presence of these weapons was destructive. for only one state, the usa will lead to a global catastrophe. wherein

rosenberg became the only civilians executed in the united states for espionage during the cold war. we remember the torment of niels bohr and other founders of the atomic era not only because the world is once again actively talking about the prospects of nuclear weapons. interesting story. happened to elon musk in a new book, published recently , his biographer walter isaacson claims last year the entrepreneur refused to activate his starling over crimea because he learned that the ukrainians were going to use it to attack the russian black sea fleet. musk was afraid of nuclear war and sin. i didn’t want to take my soul. i created starlink so people could relax , watch netflix movies and play video games.

i didn't want to create something that could cause a nuclear war, musk allegedly said , then true musk according to the same biographer. i simply decided to transfer control; yamal did not sign up for this to the pentagon. why do i need war and this torment? let the people in uniform answer themselves. no, not their collection, but in the case of an interesting area of ​​modern innovation. and musk is a vivid example of this, always somewhere at the intersection with pr and show business. fashionably stylish, youthful. and now you have the questions of war and peace , dima, a moral burden. how does all this fit together now? let's talk to our welcome guest ivan danilin from mmo ivan hello, good afternoon , innovator. now i’m generally concerned about the ethical side of activity, because after all, it’s schools and creative flights that should irritate me a little. well, let's classify it a little. what is modern ethics? and ethics in science

and technology in general. well, especially the guilty ones. this means that there is such a good traditional block , this is what is called personal or public , these, when scientists say this is wrong. yes, it does not correspond to religious, social or other international political humanistic considerations. well, let's call it oppenheimer's dilemma after the wonderful film that caused such controversy. that's it, or it's cold. yes, somehow, so to speak, more than such a well-known person in this field. that means the second piece. and this is when society, uh, including not its most rational part, says something, probably, science will kill you soon or horns will grow. yes , somehow well, the internet is killing your children absolutely yes, and immediately first it kills, then it corrupts, that’s why the regulated one appears. well, for example, the one that arose in the usa on stem cell research in the early 2000s , when these studies were severely limited because religious groups, a, believed that this was wrong, but and so on, and there is

a rather large block, uh, which e. now it is not justifiably considered to be called, more precisely speaking, ethics in its purest form. although in my opinion. eh, it’s not like that, it’s a whole set of completely different things. eh, first of all, this is precisely the sphere, starting from popularization and propaganda. well, our law prohibits all these lgbt people, yeah, plus, that means legendary and other issues and ending with geopolitics, which means, from a formal point of view, these are also, that is , people say, this is ethical there. this is unethical, but in fact there is ethics here, of course, too, but rather on an individual basis level, but in the larger world. what is called a new dimension of competition, that is, when you have some kind of product on the market, so to speak. first you compete on price, then on quality and some unusual customization. yes, and then, well , everything is already closed. and you begin to compete in some new areas, including ethics, yes, that is, you say,

this is ethical, this is not ethical. here i have uh for a second. this is about the same thing to blame, there, i don’t know the chinese, what they have child labor is used. yes, yes, only at the commercial market level. that is, this is the same country when we could blame the chinese, well, not us, but our not friendly competitors partners. yes, that means they say that there is something wrong with the chinese - this is such an inter-competition, but there is also such a completely internal competition between startups and so on , where there is competition, based on how ethically unethical the start is. why does this concern how? as a matter of fact, some specific organizations have been developed activities. here’s a colleague of mine who works at a canadian startup, and then we get in touch with him there. this is our former one. so to speak, compatriot. he tells the wrong story that one of their main problems is that they have very few transgender people and other people in their startup. this is not ethical. now, they may be accused of stopping buying their product. here they are now. well, some time ago they were urgently looking for new employees in

order to increase the so-called diving network. yes, i’m not in any way , please understand correctly, i’m not making fun of myself. problem before version. as such, it really exists and it needs to be addressed. and, by the way, it makes sense that the soviet union might also have solved this problem. that is, it really exists, well, it’s just that any problem taken to the point of absurdity turns into a farce in a certain sense of the word, so, well , of course, there is purely international competition. here, like some. well, for example, here is the ethics of artificial intelligence. yes on the one hand, this is a really significant problem. well, that is, she is objective when i can. well, for example, as you remember it was joke about google, uh, one of these, so to speak , artificial int experiments. there, which turned out to be very russian, because he was given the wrong choice of data to the police. and even then there was a joke that the most cultishly honest american was google’s artificial intelligence. so, this problem, it also has a technical regulatory nature. but when we reach some higher market level.

well, probably international competition, then there are all these ethical codes that are being developed by europe and the usa, for example, and in within your seven there were documents and so on, china on the other hand. well, it also actually turns into what is called non-tariff restrictions, when well, essentially speaking, by this you mean, just a way to prevent a competitor from entering the market. although formal. i will repeat under each individual piece from this ethics. there are very real ethical issues there. okay, but the incident that gave us the reason, yes , the discussion of this is the story that supposedly had starling, this actually returns to more. well, if it can, so to speak, primitive. more basic food, that is, uh, the emergence of technologies that obviously increase the lethality of combat operations. and so, if such torment as was previously experienced by physicists who understood what atomic energy meant, for example.

with the advent of nuclear weapons, both american and soviet strategies wanted to understand the degree of impact of the damaging factors of nuclear weapons on the human body, the military was interested in the ability of troops to overcome the zone of a tactical nuclear explosion and then enter into battle, then they decided the americans were the first to conduct a test with human participants from 1951 to 1957. nine combined arms exercises under the desert rock program took place at a test site in nevada, during which more than 15 nuclear bombs of varying power up to 200 kt were detonated; the ability of troops to operate in the territory immediately after a nuclear strike was tested. soldiers and officers were at different distances, some twenty to thirty kilometers; others were sent directly to the epicenter at that time in the united states, the radiation did not cause much for fear of fear , people even

came to las vegas, closer to the nevada test site, to a large city. tourists to see the nuclear mushroom mushroom with their own eyes in september fifty-four, similar maneuvers were carried out at the totsky training ground in the orenburg region . the overgrown exercise was a breakthrough of the enemy’s tactical defense with the use of atomic weapons, both defense and attack were practiced with a bomb equivalent to 44 k tons. a bomber was dropped. tu-4 explosion occurred at an altitude of 350 m above the ground. this was followed by artillery preparation and the advance of ground troops through the epicenter went from tanks and infantry to armored personnel carriers. the soldiers were wearing gas masks and chemical protection suits; for the party using it, the explosion turned out to be quite safe. as stated in the report, low levels of radiation in the area of ​​\u200b\u200bthe atomic strike, during an air explosion allow troops to overcome it immediately after the explosion of the atomic bomb. the second exercise with the use of nuclear weapons took place in

the ussr on september 10, 1956 at the semipalatinsk test site. it was a helicopter landing parachute battalion following the atomic strike then an air-nuclear explosion with a power of 38 kt was carried out, and the program of combined arms exercises using nuclear weapons in the ussr was completed. yes, well, they, as always, are mainly implemented in peacetime. the fact is that a few years ago, ah. google amazon there are several other companies there, which means that there was a fairly serious internal discussion about the ethical acceptability of working for the pentagon on one, let alone a completely military project. and google engineers. we just took a generally principled position. and there, in general, this contract fell through. as far as i remember,

the problem is that in my humble opinion, all this works while they start. here’s some kind of, let’s say, more serious story, when all this ethics begins to be broken, roughly speaking. well , somewhere on the objective side, somewhere on the subjective side, people interpret international events differently. they may decide that, well, yes, there are, so to speak, some killer robots, maybe not. well, now you see how evil it is. you have to resist it, otherwise it will win and it will be completely unethical. in general, quite strange, it seems to me, well, i don’t know, maybe not strange , on the contrary, naturally, but some kind of trend that we didn’t seem to prepare for, that there was a feeling that the technologies that are being improved are being improved are already beyond the bounds of science fiction . and it is they who determine, and the fact that we are now seeing military operations that are taking place not only in ukraine but in general,

this is actually a classic. it's like this people are blood. it's soil and all that. this is not a contradiction to the other, at all. it seems to me that each other is a wonderful complement. i would say, i’ll add a little academicism, with your permission. yes please yes and when we look at some reactions from the media, there are stories of simpletons, there are consulting works of development institutions, we always have the feeling that the future has already passed somewhere. and we are already there , at full speed, rushing towards the singularity. well, this is the so-called red dilemma queens from lewes carol. remember there what it means in our world, in order to stay in one place you have to run as fast as you can, and in order to get somewhere you have to run twice as fast. yes, there is alice in the looking glass. so, uh, the problem is that, uh , the reality of innovation is much more pragmatic. yes, that is, uh, well, if you look at some objective economic shows, there is simply labor productivity, the rate of increase in labor productivity. there is a set of factors of production and other boring things.

no one is interested at all, except for people of my profession, then we haven’t seen any kind of revolution there over the past 20-30 years. well, there are even reverse processes there. there are a lot of sharp hypotheses. why is this happening, and uh, this whole story with technology, again, it’s more about competition. well, that is, it’s like the novgorod thing, the one who screams the loudest wins, so we somehow for a long time accepted this whole scream only about the fact that now technologists determine everything. we already practically in the bright future. if not there, then on the way to it, technology will sort everything out; everything will be there now. at face value. and now that life has somehow returned a little to its simpler forms . hmm, it seems to me that more familiar people, for example in africa and latin america, they are somehow more accustomed to the majority, as they say now, yes? yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes it turned out that in general there were many questions that turned out to be fundamentally important to us. they are not

that important and we are back. here, well, to so, maybe a little bit shady, maybe a little bit not correct somewhere. well, in a generally understandable category, this in no way cancels out the fact that technology is developing, that we are all together, as humanity goes. i hope what color will the future be? here but you are absolutely right. here. uh, at least in some areas there is blood , soil and everything else. eh, just like banal economics, they simply retain their meaning. now it has become more visible again, well, because the external conditions that no longer give us the opportunity to engage in any kind of food, then the last question is pointed. can we say what's next in the future of technological success? eh, more than anyone. well, so to speak, the one who will achieve the most success is the one who can resolutely reject all moral conventions.

i hope that these will ultimately, in the bright future, humanity, of course, win. it seems to me that it is better to have a morally justified decision than not, but it seems to me that this question is never strong worried, and not the culprits, nor businessmen and no one else, you know this very well, history. colleagues from the oil and gas sector told me that this means that europe has an oil refinery there. this is all purely and so on. you move there to some nigeria. well, everything there, of course, is somewhat simpler, although it would be the same company. what do these have to do with it? yes, uh hmm i think that uh, no matter how cynical it may sound , the winner here will be the one who still does not abandon the issues of development efficiency, because ethics and efficiency do not you'll block it. there is not one, then the second. in general, it’s pointless to maintain some kind of reasonable balance, and this balance is still needed for two simple reasons. whose now i’ll put aside military innovations, i

understand them, and i hope i never will, not only for personal reasons, but for some reason i think it’s somehow not quite my thing. here uh, what is human development? this is, well, global development in general. first of all, these are the people here, and people want to live there in relatively comfortable conditions , to realize themselves, and so on. nothing more ethical, in my opinion, it is impossible to come up with. and so, if we talk about some kind of global development, then the main ethical task is still to return to man, but here he did all this more effectively and will create more successful conditions for his development. that is, people will come there , talent will come there, and so on. and as for such technical ethics. eh, an opinion is a feeling that something will change radically in the next 20 years and it is possible to solve this problem in a more pragmatic manner. well , yes, as in my childhood they said everything is for the good everything is human in the name of man, the cpsu people

did the right thing, taught the right thing, did a little worse, but the message is correct. thank you very much. antonin was our guest. this week our publication was registered with headlines like russians will be stripped down to their panties in the european union . the reason was the explanation of the european commission, according to which almost any property of citizens of the russian federation is subject to sanctions and, accordingly, can be confiscated because all of them can theoretically be sold in the european union, a this violates the sanctions the regime made a fuss, then they explained the violence and personal things, most likely, would not be touched. but cars for sure, and other things. well, some countries immediately saw the discretion of specific countries,

for example, the baltic states in full, but this is an understandable phenomenon, generally an illustrative example of what happens when three things are combined - a value imperative that has become a political lever for the circus. the way of thinking of the bureaucracy, well , biased attitudes towards a certain contingent, the normal set of instruments of european integration has always been used by us it’s just that we haven’t come across anything personal before, just modern europe. come on, take everything off you. what about you was bought with stolen money, what did you drink? they gave us some of their clothes as a gift. yes, take it all off. paradig-ha, i am like that. wow, great. it was an international review,

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