and the main events of the seventy-eighth session of the un general assembly are taking place in new york . the leaders of russia, great britain, china, france , and the minister of foreign affairs do not plan to attend it this year. sergei lavrov will take part in a meeting of the foreign ministers of the brix countries today, and a member of the russian delegation is now in touch with us. chairman of the federation council committee on international affairs. grigory karasen grigory borisovich i greet you. thanks for taking the time. yes, greetings

from new york. it's early morning here. at night arrived. an intensive four-day program begins today. how are you feeling? we are, as always, optimistic and militant. but this is wonderful, nevertheless there are certain inconveniences. i heard that there were some restrictions on movement about 40 km. on the one hand, the americans seem to have made concessions, but on the other hand , we need to do some nasty things like this. now , this won’t stop you from working towards this and this. we're already starting. eh, get used to all these 40 km restrictions. they won't stop us from accepting active participation in the work of the general assembly. moreover, the program is very rich. er, that means today, uh, sergei lavrov will take part in a meeting of the security council on ukraine, which in

itself. how do you understand it will be quite interesting and sharp? uh, there will be ministerial meetings these days in the brix csto shanghai cooperation organization format, as well as a group of friends in defense of the un charter, which also means the twenty-third of september. that is, it will be saturday, as far as i understand, yes, uh sergey viktorovich will speak at the general political discussion of the general assembly session, a speech so rich in meaning, and in addition, meetings with the un secretary general gutes are planned here, as well as about 20 e bilateral conversations with colleagues from other countries. well, i’ll name some of them: venezuela cuba egypt thailand mexico brazil hungary iraq iran and others.

so there is interesting, hard work ahead, until something interferes with some semantic component, in about two hours. so we , the delegation, will move to the headquarters. he's for in order to start work, it is clear that our uh, that means, political enemies will try to inflate the ukrainian theme here in their own way. so, uh, it’s clear that the ukrainian crisis has become the main problem of international life. at least, that’s how it is presented. uh, the west is trying, uh, with its hands and bodies. as our minister recently said , it is with the hands and bodies of ukrainians that we can solve our strategic problems. our task

is to provide ourselves with a strategic long-term development perspective, stability and the opportunity for international community to live without dictate and coercion, it seems that this , uh, these theses are finding increasing understanding in the global south, as it is now customary to call the majority international, and this is uniting efforts with us in this direction, in a word, interesting days lie ahead, and grigorievich and yet. you haven't moved forward yet. e to the un building i have the opportunity to talk about the lofty, what is called and in principle, this format works, it has some kind of, well, a positive way out, or what? oh, because how productive? he no, well, first of all, we are a co-founder of the russian federation, before

that the soviet union was a co-founder of the united nations immediately after the victory. uh, in the second world war, so we have always proceeded and continue to proceed from the fact that the world organization of koi is the un, should bring positive. eh, some. well, we will inject, or something, a positive impact on the topic of international problems that periodically escalate or are not resolved for a long time in this vein work. eh, unfortunately big. eh, hmm, the policy of sanctions and isolation has led to the fact that the united nations is perhaps the only representative organization where we, so to speak, can calmly speak and confidently convey our positions. literally all members of the international community and we will

use this. and grigory borevich, i understand that you said there will be a lot of important issues that will be discussed. and, of course, the karabakh crisis, if there are already any statements. and if there is a hint of that, that this topic will be discussed within the framework of the un general assembly or is it too early to talk about it, well, i’ll say right away that the latest development forced us on board, the plane’s flight is not that close, it’s about 12.5 hours, so now judging by media reports , the ceasefire agreement reached in nagorno- karabakh is positive news. i hope that it will be confirmed on earth by the facts ours contributed to this. uh, russian peacekeepers who are doing difficult service there, uh region. russia is doing and has done everything possible to help achieve this

agreement. well, it is clear that this topic will be touched upon here from different angles during the beginning session of the un general assembly. we are ready for these conversations ; as i already said, we will have a meeting of the dcs foreign ministers. i. well, other formats are two-sided, so this topic will be discussed. we are interested in peace in the south caucasus. yes, right now, while we are talking, colleagues are showing footage of how our peacekeepers are helping civilians karabakh a shelter them and give them food and water. and so, a lot of work is going on, and here, too, i understand that it was thanks to us that this was achieved in the first place. that's it for now. for now too. yes. eh, the truce seems to be like a cessation. the fire was one-sided news from karabakh and the karabakh military. uh,

grigory boevich, another important topic is to turn to other un issues on the eve of this event. eh, mr. biden. suddenly i remembered that the united states advocates reform of the security council of all security will be dedicated to ukraine as you said, in general this topic will be raised, whether in fact somehow or not. no, of course it will rise. i already said that there will be a meeting. er, well, first of all, there will be performances. secondly, there will be a meeting with secretary general guteros and the topic of reform in general. it is on the security council's agenda. as you know, we believe that this topic really needs to be implemented, the only question is how, at what pace. on what terms is there a whole uh, series of sentences about who additional how many should be included in the expanded security council, but

ahead of the discussion of this problem, i believe that there is no need to get ahead of ourselves. let's give leadership to our countries. uh, the minister of foreign affairs and the ministers of foreign affairs should discuss this topic and move on to some kind of intelligible compromise that would suit the entire international community, but most importantly , it would contribute to the fact that the organization. it has once again confirmed its function as an important tool for maintaining peace and predictability on earth. and gregory borisovich well, you are a great specialist in international affairs. what do you think, is it possible to achieve this without any sudden movements , to agree on a compromise to expand the membership of the un security council and in general to resolve this issue; boldly assume that such a solution is quite achievable; the necessary will and no intention to dictate, one must

be able to discuss and take into account the interests of each other, the interests of regional groups, and of individual large states. eh, the work has begun. i don’t see any unsolvable problems here, but work will be done difficult. and grigorievich is another big topic - this is the ukrainian topic, they say that after all zelensky, who spoke here in a half-empty hall, you can see how the rhetoric is changing, the attitude is changing. e to ukrainian issues. and uh, of course, i mean first of all, and the new york times investigation into konstantinovka uh. i. of course. yesterday i was extremely surprised by these words from duda, maybe they were taken out of context, of course, but such things. he talked about a drowning man and compared ukraine. what do you think, you probably know even this mr. duda's statements. how

far do you think this whole conflict will go , formally it is a grain conflict? well, really, this is of course, that’s not the only point. well, i'll start with a statement. duda i read this on the telegram channel. eh, this proves it once again. eh, so to speak, the nature of the allied relations that poland is trying to demonstrate to the whole world. although, in fact, she pursues purely selfish , narrow political interests, this is about this, this is about the statement of the famous piper, and in regards to the discussion at the general assembly. well, let's see today this ukrainian topic will be heard. uh, so to speak, at a meeting of the security council, that is, at a round table, where all members of the security council will speak , uh, sergei viktorovich lavrov will speak, uh, which means he will give characteristics of all the ongoing processes , all the threats that are posed by

what is happening in ukraine, uh her policy in her intention. all her eternal uh begging for, so to speak, increased weapons of some kind. eh hmm financial support and so on, from which, in my opinion, i have already become very the west as a whole is tired, as a geopolitical community, let's see, uh, interesting days lie ahead. i don't want to guess anything. everything will appear, as they say on the surface of political discussion. and grigor, borisovich , thank you very much. i hope you could take part in my friday evening program. if you have such an opportunity, i would be glad to talk with you, because there will already be some results. well, it's only over the phone. yes, of course, we'll be back on sunday. you have to fly here all day with pleasure. come on, i’m here in the evening

, so to speak, here, in my opinion, it’s almost morning, so uh, let’s call each other and think about it well, grigory vasilyevich, you’re very welcome. thank you. let me remind you that grigory karasin, chairman of the federation council committee on international affairs, was in touch with new york. st. petersburg, i vladimir putin held a meeting with chinese foreign minister wang and one of the topics was the situation in nagorno-karabakh, according to the president, russian peacekeepers are doing everything to protect civilians. moscow supports constant contact with authorities in baku, yerevan, stepanakert. and in russia they expect that they will be able to achieve before the problem escalates and moves into a peaceful channel. the head of state also said that he accepted the invitation of chinese leader xi jinping to visit china in october to participate in the one belt one road forum. i am pleased to invite the president of the people's republic of china to visit china this october as part of

a major event to promote the idea of ​​uh connectivity, uh, which such an international brand as one belt one already has path. um, that's the whole thing. eh , it also corresponds to our interests, no matter how the international offices change, china is ready with the russian side in the spirit of implementing important such jealousy to reach them and strengthen mutual trust by sitting down with a dolphin. continuously strengthen the business partnership between us, as well as build up the social base between our peoples and coordination in the international arena. jointly protect our common interests, as well as promote international cooperation, that is, countries will of course inform you about the situation in the ukrainian direction and

what is happening in the sphere. azerbaijan in the karabakh and azerbaijan armenian settlement, if our peacekeepers are very actively working with all parties involved in this conflict, they are doing everything to protect the civilian population in our main base there are already over 2,000 civilians, of which there are more than 1,000 children, but we are very close content i repeat, we are in conflict with all the countries there are authorities in yerevan and i hope that we can achieve. before escalation and translation of a solution to this problem. now let's continue with the short advertisement. sber

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let’s continue to talk about the situation in nagornoye in karabakh, the head of the state duma committee on international affairs, the head of the ldpr party, leonid slutsky or eduardovich, is in touch with us . hello, how difficult do you think it was to reach an agreement on a complete ceasefire. alexander, of course, is not just like uh, and in any similar situation , unfortunately, military operations are easier. develop-untie than to finish them, however. we can note that this is a termination agreement. fire was achieved quite forcefully by many experts. they are talking about the surrender of karabakh in this case after nikolayevich pashinyan’s famous statement by the prime minister of armenia made in prague that karabakh is an integral part of azerbaijan , pashinyan also gave specific figures in

square kilometers and so on. the only thing. what we can’t agree with today’s rita is that she blames him for something on inaction. uh, let's say the russian dead men after his statement are finally in the coordinate system of the state, armenia karabakh is part of azerbaijan and accordingly, this situation is internal for azerbaijan and russian peacekeepers have a different status. than provided for by the tripartite agreement of 2020, that is, the status is observational, but at the same time. uh, no matter what status our peacekeepers have, and no matter who they are, each of us we called, and in the most active way and outside of school hours, including me and the deputies of the ldpr faction in the state duma and tonight, for the immediate transition of the situation to negotiations any

conflict situation must be resolved not militarily, but through negotiations. there was also russia's position will always remain in such situations; we heard the situation. now. really. uh, moving on to this is done. it is the most important step in the negotiation process and any subsequent uh, difficult nuances will be. i am thinking of being regulated in an armchair, and not in a military field coordinate system. and, of course, we, alexander, must understand in relation to the destructive rhetoric that has been heard in recent days, not even days, but weeks from armenia addressed to russia, if we take the last few days, then this is in connection with this conflict, and i explained that our peacekeepers have observer status or any claims against russia here are completely invertedly unfounded, armenia is simply accustomed to

russia resolving any, uh, issues for more than 30 years of our recent history, common with armenia, we uh, history from the soviet period they did it for armenia maybe, if not for another, not for one other, but for a post-soviet country, huh? and the space of the multi-constructive, we have always helped, very much, to withstand the difficult situations of the national economy of armenia, when the situation was very destructive and bad, when people left the country en masse. we have always helped armenia in everything ; we do not have a common border, and this can also be found, nevertheless, we invited armenia along with others. uh , our fellow countries in the eurasian and economic union should join this integration bloc. and this, too, remains today a powerful impetus for the growth of the armenian economy. we have always,

on a personal level, treated our colleagues from armenia with deep respect. uh, instead of viktorovich, a peasant woman the founder, in fact, the eurasian economic commission was his successor, and tigran became next to the ocean. eh, in the past at that time the prime minister went. armenia in the usa , uh, instead of nikolai nikolayevich bordyuzhi , the iconic uh, head of the csto organization of the collective security treaty, uh , important integra, and the military bloc in the post-soviet space, too, uh, took his position. uh, citizen of armenia, this can be continued with dozens of examples of this, uh, respect for support. eh, i think it’s easier to say what science education and culture are about. we did not support armenia and yet we see that the party has reached a tsun, which is led by the collective west, as others know, to put it mildly, destructive forces,

obviously anti-russian. e. they simply speak about our country in an unacceptable manner for any reason and of course, uh, in connection with the situation that has happened in recent days in karabakh, again a baseless unfounded accusation against russia against our worlds. i think that the collective west laid the foundation here. uh, including ideas not only to try once again to somehow lower us in the political information space, but also, uh, try to quarrel us from the side. this of course didn't work out. this cannot happen. today we have very close interstate and interparliamentary relations, including with azerbaijan, ilham gidarovich. aliyev , the president of azerbaijan, is, if not himself , one of the most reliable strategic partners of russia, the president of russia in the post-soviet space, in the

same row, of course. alexander grigorievich lukashenko no alham gidarovich. aliyev is truly a professional person of a high degree, decent, we are implementing a large number of significant infrastructure projects. including the international transport corridor north, south, which will make the delivery of goods more efficiently and effectively. uh, from the persian gulf region to europe via st. petersburg, before this, iran, before this , azerbaijan, then the territory of russia, and many other important projects in the field of economic , political, and cultural, we today cannot be subject to any provocation, however structured. push and spread from the side. but what can i say? the provocation failed not to put us down, nor to separate us from the side. but the armenian rhetoric is unpleasant. i am constantly in touch with the deputies of the national assembly

, the platform known to us, marshal bagramyan 19, and with many outstanding, but in my opinion, public and political figures of armenia , they do not support this rhetoric. listening to her is unpleasant. it is not justified by the attack against russia on each of us; it is induced, unfortunately, provoked, as well. from the source far west of yerevan and i would ask all our colleagues in yerevan to be more careful ; russia should be thanked, not blamed. this is, perhaps, ugly and annoying. but at the same time, it must be understood that it is much less sensitive in relation to the death of people in the arena of hostilities. and the fact that the fighting is over is certainly a serious success. and uh, i think we still are. eh, like the last few days. eh, we will keep the situation under review

, control and assist in this, we have a powerful resource through official and we will talk about this in parliament and on the square marked the general assembly of the united nations, where i again did not get to for the second year in a row due to the fact that the us state department did not give me permission to see the only one of the five members of our officialdom. bonds at the general assembly approved by the president of russia yes, indeed, i speak more than others about the openly negative role of the united states about their uh, allowed to be forced. almost every day there is a mistake in attempts to build a unipolar world order, where the only washington should allegedly become a pole of power and influence in the world, based on laws, and on some rules, and attempts to export democracy, which this country does not have, to other countries, and attempts to reform the united nations, which is intended to be the top of the world political

hierarchy. in many other ways, as a result, i didn’t receive a visa. i stayed in moscow and took up the tasks of political construction. we have become the second political party in the country. there's plenty to do there. do we have a reason to work? well, as for once again your question on karabakh , a sensitive situation and i really hope that on this long-suffering land, which from now on and forever on the political map of the world as part of azerbaijan, which was recognized in prague, the leadership of armenia will not be. eh, shells will explode, there will be no fighting. we need to build peace, we need to give people a few decades to breathe easy and develop their land. but of course, this situation will deserve our common attention, alexander and the viewers of our wonderful news channel russia 24. we will keep our finger on the pulse. and, of course,

russia will always, when it comes to conflicts, keep the situation from moving into the military phase and will facilitate the transition to a negotiating channel. well, uh, of course, uh, we mean, there’s a peace treaty between azerbaijan. and it’s also a matter for armenia, if not the immediate, then the foreseeable future. well, the most important agreement for today is the ceasefire. and this is truly a landmark success. we support this in every possible way. edward thank you so much. my colleagues and i have prepared questions. well, everyone answered them right away, so we’re following. as you rightly noted the development of events and we will be happy to talk with you next time, and she will contact us. we spoke with the head of the state duma committee on international affairs, head