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[000:00:00;00] in the afternoon the temperature will rise to 18°, well, on thursday the wind will change direction to the west, the cooling will begin, in the afternoon +13, on friday +10, on saturday +6, rain, at night the temperature is slightly above zero, motorists should think about changing tires to winter ones, already it's time. the european defense industry does not have time to supply ukraine with weapons and ammunition, the political publication writes about this with reference to european officials. according to them, the eu's arms stockpiles are being depleted literally on an industrial scale. however, at a recent meeting with to the foreign ministers, the head of european diplomacy, josep barel, again promised unwavering support for kiev. we will discuss this with the acting permanent
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representative of russia to the european union , kiril logvinov, he is in direct contact with the studio. kirillo mikhailovich, thank you for finding time for us, and as i understand it, all these statements by european officials, joseppe barella, the ministerial meeting in kiev, it was like that, was supposed to demonstrate support, so powerful from brussels, but as i understand it, that some specific after all, no decisions were made, or even any conclusions were made, or is that not so? aleksanovich, good afternoon. well, indeed, this group trip of the foreign ministers of the european union member countries to kiev on october 2, it initially did not imply the adoption of any specific decisions, but first of all, due to its format, it was an informal meeting, that is, according to by and large, representatives of european capitals, in the presence of ukrainians, heard a report
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by barel, whom you mentioned, on the work done and plans for the future, well, in particular, they talked about the need to strengthen cooperation with kiev in the defense industry in matters of countering disinformation , plus issues of mine clearance were discussed there, but the main thing for the european commission, and baril is a member of the european commission, is to remind about everything... the european capitals themselves in the context of their work in agreement with the multi-year budget of the european union. this is all the more critical for brussels now in light of the decisions that were made recently in washington, primarily with the aim of maintaining eu discipline, but at the same time, it’s not worth saying that this
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brainstorming in kiev was absolutely. useless, because this is, let’s say, the first meeting on ukrainian issues this week, the discussion will continue in spanish granada on the fifth on the sidelines of the summit of the european political community, the next day there in spain and at the informal summit of the european union, and plus today, as far as i understand, the leaders of the seven countries communicated online. kiril mikhailovich, this rhetoric, which is full of epithets, historically, unshakable there and so on, what is this, some kind of pr, or is it some kind of moral support, come on guys, die for our interests, and this is the carrot that was pulled closer to kiev, well, you are
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absolutely right, this we are talking about such a pure self-pirate. agree, the purpose of all, without exception, trips of westerners to the ukrainian capital, it was, in general , precisely this, which may be the only, uh, significant difference in the eyes of brussels from all previous such massive trips, this the fact that an informal meeting of the eu foreign affairs council was held for the first time outside the european union, but here again... first of all, we are talking about such a beautiful picture for both external use and internal consumption. but if we talk about statements, then probably , uh, the most interesting, high-flown statements were barel’s statements regarding the provision of military assistance to ukraine, yes, that the european union will continue to increase
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financial assistance - to kiev, regardless of what is happening in the united states, well, plus he too said that in brussels they were surprised by the decision made by the american and the yesovets... we have to regret this, well, it sounds funny in general, because it is clear that in the west it is not brussels that determines the course of this conflict, but washington, so not very it’s clear who the eu wanted to deceive with such statements, perhaps only themselves, but i don’t know, maybe the european union is aiming to compensate for washington’s assistance to ukraine, but all that remains is to sympathize with the next generation of european politicians who will have to say, to deal with the consequences of all these decisions made today, but as you correctly said, in general, yesov
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’s arms reserves have already practically dried up, but they can probably still afford to squander money for some time, and kirill mikhailovich , this story is about how they allegedly didn’t invite... the foreign ministers of hungary and poland, what does this mean, they themselves didn’t go, or there were some other obstacles, and is it still possible to talk about what's coming in europe some kind of split and such an anti-ukrainian bloc, well, maybe it’s premature to make such a statement, but in slovakia some party is winning there, which says, let ’s not provide assistance to kiev, how to understand all this, and what about participation or non-participation countries, here, of course, the whole picture was spoiled by zelsky, who for some reason said that all the foreign ministers took part then, naturally, the yesovites and the member countries had to disavow all this, but
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here we will not build any, so to speak, long-running versions, yes, and budapest was represented at the meeting at the level of the deputy minister of foreign affairs, in principle, the regulations of the european union... sweden, who forgot his passport and could not board the plane, but this is what the western media write here, regarding the anti-ukrainian bloc, maybe i’ll start a few , remember, when the first sanctions packages against our country were just being discussed, there were member countries that opposed restrictions, especially against those that were
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capable of hitting important sectors of their national economies, at the same time there were suggestions that perhaps these countries were able to unite their efforts in order to prevent this sanctions spiral from unwinding further, well, you must agree today even to remember that it’s somehow inconvenient, where are all these so -called pragmatic countries, where are all these old europeans, we remember well that this or that sanction measure against us, sometimes it was agreed upon at the highest level, everything reached summits, when these issues became bargaining chips, the subject of ordinary bargaining, that is, the europeans found themselves are ready to... sacrifice certain areas, so to speak, for the sake of solving their certain financial problems , since all these financial levers and
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the pressure of the european union, they are here in the european quarter, then brussels will make every effort to ensure that in every possible way , maintain a pro-ukrainian... mood in the member countries, because for brussels this is essentially a question of life and death, so for the same bratislava, if necessary, i think that the yesovites will have some levers of pressure, but this is in past, and what we have today, too, you don’t have to look far for examples, which means that under pressure from brussels, ukraine excluded one hungarian bank from the list of war sponsors, which means, in response, hungary... made it clear that is ready to unblock the allocation of 500 million euros in military assistance from the european union, which means that plus the european commission is now ready to lift the ban on providing
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assistance to hungary in the amount of about 13 billion euros, yes, this is eu assistance, it was blocked, it was intended to equalize the standard of living in member countries plus overcoming the economic consequences. well, that is, it is clear that now the hungarians most likely will not , let’s say, block the adoption of a decision that requires consensus, and most likely it will be... to ukraine to russia, plus kiev, in my opinion, has also suspended it there, here is the mentioned status these sponsors of the war against five greek banks, well, you also understand that all this was not done by chance, most likely in the context of agreeing on the next twelfth package against us. kiril mikhailovich, well it is clear that the position of the european union, the european authorities, is unlikely to change in the near future, and nevertheless, some
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of the first signs of discontent, accumulated fatigue in the eu, they are indicated, they even write about it themselves and even the european press, well foreign, of course, can this still lead to political shifts more serious than the elections in slovakia, for example, well, you know, i think that for real political shifts in the european union, what is needed is not talk about fatigue, but, uh, a clear understanding of that prices, which the european capitals themselves will pay for the course they take, but there is no such understanding today, and by the way, you are absolutely correct in noticing that these conversations about fatigue, they are often dumped here into the information space, by the eu european institutions themselves, that is, why this is being done, yes, that is, why is the term fatigue thrown in, you are tired, that means rest, restore your strength, and do not interfere with others
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moving on the intended course, and then, yes, according to the principle of euro-solidarity, try to catch up with others, then, you know that under this, under such fatigue, the eu members are even ready to move, when making decisions, from the principle of consensus to a qualified majority, that is, this is the fate. will be destined for the tired european capitals, that is, you are tired, others, more zealous, will decide for you. no, of course, it is probably possible that disagreements that already exist now , or will, may grow between, both between european capitals and between certain member countries in brussels, but probably as long as it is pro-ukrainian or anti-russian.. . policy continues to fulfill its main
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purpose, namely to be such a consolidating factor for the european union, i think that political changes are hardly possible. kirillo mikhailovich, here is a statement from the ukrainian foreign ministry, mr. kuleba dreams that kiev is already in the european union, this is how he interpreted the arrival of foreign ministers in kiev, but what do you think? this topic, how seriously it is being discussed in the public, in europe, how really, how realistic it is, at least remotely, it is clear that tomorrow there will be no ukraine will not be accepted anywhere, well, the distant future, but ukraine is being discussed, it is clear that this topic has been around for 10 years, it was on this topic that the maidan was organized 10 years ago, but nevertheless, how is this
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issue being discussed now? ? well, you know, speaking in the statement, kuleby, i think it was difficult to expect anything less from the ukrainians than to pass off wishful thinking as reality, which means the same bareil, in kiev, and he said that accession would take place neither tomorrow nor the day after tomorrow, but it’s better for it to happen sooner than later, well, try to understand that he meant, and at the same time his... the subordinate head of the european commission of the european union in kiev said that the most realistic date is 2030, well , you know, i think that at this stage the maximum for such a program for the ukrainians themselves would be the eu decision to begin relevant negotiations, and preferably until the end of the current one. year, but again, let us remember the experience
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of other candidates, the beginning of preparatory negotiations, it means absolutely nothing, and then even in this case, that is for this, the ukrainians still need to fulfill five of the seven necessary conditions to launch these negotiations, but you asked an interesting question about what they think in europe itself, i think that in europe, well, listen, the ukrainian question is probably one of those uh many questions, numerous questions , where there is a huge gap between the political and the european population, and here, now no one will ask the european public what they think about this, because, well, more than once in in the history of the european union, even in the last decade, there were examples when the public’s opinion was asked on some issues of fundamental importance for the bloc and then it turned out that the public thought completely differently,
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so now he is keeping this issue away from the european public, well , really, with the public it is necessary be careful, otherwise he will give something away, then disentangle it, therefore - european democracy is now in the light, one might say, it is just blooming and smelling, and especially when illegal sanctions are imposed against the country, it infringes human rights of another country, which she cares so much about in her countries, well, it’s clear, they have a garden, and we have a jungle, with us you can be like with the aborigines - shoot right, left, in the literal and figurative sense, but nevertheless, the issue of sanctions is yours they have already said that brussels has invested dissenting zealous rulers of the members of the european union, in different ways and with carrots, after all, the last one is already the twelfth, twelfth package, we will soon see sanctions, but well, let’s see,
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here you know, the work has begun, long after approval of the eleventh package, because in the european union it lives according to the same scheme, yes, that is, after the adoption of each next sanctions package , it is discovered that the european union has such untapped potential, so the european commission and some member countries, uh, it immediately seems that, uh, something is missing turned on, now we need to start work on the next package, there is a european capital that is breathing a sigh of relief , in the hope that, so to speak, work on the next similar document will drag on a little, but let me remind you that after one package, some member countries already they threw out all sorts of proposals, sometimes completely absurd, and even for the ee members, and not just for us, to the european commission, so that it
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would then lower them for a general ec discussion, so yes, well then, accordingly , it begins as usual... well, we’ll see, i guess , it would be wrong to say now when it will be adopted, and even more so to suggest, give some advice , let the yesovs themselves figure out what they included and what they did not include, but we must understand that the european capitals, for the european capitals themselves, these adopted restrictions, they many have adopted restrictions, they have such a delayed effect on their national economies, in general, this circumstance , i think, has a certain deterrent effect on some member countries, but not for all, so now they say that such a protracted the pause between the eleventh, twelfth package, perhaps it is due to this, well, for the rest , yes, there will probably be something directed against
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certain industries, plus, in each package there are personal sanctions, well, there are 146 russians. so there is potential here , here well, plus there is this eu opposition to circumventing sanctions, there are also a lot of countries in the world, yes, kiril mikhailovich, well, european officials need to hurry up, otherwise kuleba is hitting his hoof, dissatisfied, saying what is it, why there have been no sanctions against russia for so long, well now ukraine apparently directs the actions of european officials, and not vice versa, and pushes for various... all sorts of dirty tricks and nasty things that european officials do to us, i mean, this is, first of all, a ban on the entry of our cars, which have already been confiscated, it seems, in czech republic for a car with our license plates, and this is the first moment, the second is still for our citizens who still believe in the bright
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european garden is so beautiful, who want to get there, sometimes people need, i can’t say anything, relatives and so further, many connections have accumulated over these decades, i’m not... in terms of condemnation, i’m in terms of what surprises await, is there any news about this, is it still possible for people to go to europe out of extreme necessity, i already understand, without your own car, well, at least pants, there are underpants take it with you so that they don’t take it away, you can do this, listen, well, it’s hard to say, i understand, here you need to understand, here you need to realize what was behind all these decisions, first of all, about cars, well, that’s what they now they’ve produced a lot here, there are clothes and everything else, you know, this is real, and based on this you need to draw conclusions for yourself about whether it’s worth coming here. no, well, it’s worth driving, but how safe is it, listen, no one can say, because, well, first of all, the task, it’s like
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two dimensions, first of all, this is the task of punishing all russians for something that is not what many here expected, we continue to believe in our country, and we are not going to change our views on, so to speak, the present and the future of our homeland, the second is probably dimension, you understand, this is today's... these are european politics, they and they , so to speak, do not need russians here, because otherwise, just even our physical appearance here, yes, a conversation with some european on the street, he naturally will prove enough quickly, that this whole myth about the russian threat is fictitious, you know, everything is built on this today, plus enormous efforts and funds have been invested in the formation of this myth. yes, and i think that this is important, yes, well, all these decisions
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, well, let them remain on the conscience, the europeans, again, no one asked their own population here, because otherwise they would have to answer a very serious question , what is the logic of these actions, who are they directed against, it is clear that both for us and for ordinary europeans the answer would be obvious that it is directed... against ordinary citizens who are trying to discriminate on the basis of their nationality, it is clear that they don’t want to hear such questions here, yes, well, let’s rely on the conscience of european officials, although it seems to me that there is not much left there either. kirill mikhailovich, thank you very much, we spoke with the acting permanent representative of russia to the european union, kirill logvinov. now a short advertisement, then we will continue. you need confidence on the winter road, rest
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, our troops inflicted serious damage on the enemy. further, the units of the southern group repelled all attacks in the solidar-bakhmut direction; military personnel of the fourth meto-rifle, eleventh air assault and seventeenth artillery brigades especially distinguished themselves. attempts failed the enemy to break through our defenses in the area of ​​​​verbovoy and rabotino, in the zaporozhye direction. the 55th motorized rifle brigade and 228th motorized rifle regiment distinguished themselves in the krasnolimansk direction by successfully completing the assigned tasks of the units of the 70th motorized rifle regiment, the 6th airborne assault regiment, as well as the 810th marine brigade and the 291st artillery brigade. our soldiers act boldly and decisively, showing true heroism.
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