tv RIK Rossiya 24 RUSSIA24 October 5, 2023 6:30pm-7:00pm MSK
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[000:00:00;00] a disciplined working class, talented people, all this is certainly true, but there are fundamental factors that europe itself refuses, i spoke about sovereignty in my opening remarks, you understand what the matter is, because sovereignty has multi-vector dimensions, here we are why do we say all the time, and i say all the time: that russia cannot exist as a non-sovereign state, it will simply cease to exist completely, because it’s not just about issues of military and other security, it’s about other components, that’s why what happened in europe, many european leaders, so as not to accuse me, do not accuse me of rudely
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attacking someone, or something like a shulema. some europeans themselves, many, say that europe has lost sovereignty, say, in the economic locomotive of europe in a federal republic, but leading politicians have repeatedly emphasized that after 1945 germany was never in the full sense of the word a sovereign state , what this leads to in practice, including economic life, they provoked the united states, and i think, i don’t even doubt, it was they who provoked the ukrainian crisis when they supported the coup in ukraine in 1414, they could not help but understand that this is a red line, we have said this a thousand times, no, they climbed in, well, we got today’s situation, and i suspect that it’s no coincidence that they needed this conflict, a result that
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europe, which had long ago lost part, well, not completely, but a significant part of its... sovereignty, was forced to immediately stand in the rear to his sovereign and to follow his policy of switching to a policy of sanctions and restrictions in relations with russia, she was forced, realizing that this was to her detriment, and now all energy resources, a significant part of these energy resources , are bought... from the united states at 30% more expensive, which means restrictions have been introduced on - on oil on russian, and what is the result? this is not as obvious as for gas, but the result is the same, they reduced the number of suppliers, and we, in turn, began to buy from the reduced number -
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to bear the suppliers. at higher prices, and we sell their oil to other countries at a discount, you know what happened, the competitiveness of the european economy fell down, and the competitiveness of their main, in fact, from the point of view of the economic component of the competitors of the united states, increased sharply and... countries, including in asia, too increased, with our own hands, as a result of the loss, the loss of part of our sovereignty with our own hands , we were forced to make decisions to our own detriment, but why do we need such a partner, of course, he is not
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useless, but i want to draw attention to the fact that we... are largely leaving the fading european market, increasing our presence in growing markets in other regions of the world, including asia, at the same time, of course, we are connected with europe by numerous, centuries-old ties in the field of culture, education, i repeat, all this is based on christian education. culture, but even here , the europeans do not make us very happy, they are destroying their roots, based on christian culture, they are simply tearing them up, mercilessly, therefore - we are not going
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to close anything, neither windows nor doors, but we are not we are going to break into europe, if europe doesn’t want this, it wants it, please, we will work together, please, but m... well , it seems to me, well, we can talk endlessly, but in my opinion i noted the main points, now according to regarding the textbook and the color revolutions of 1956, i will not hide, i did not read the textbook in this part, regarding the withdrawal of troops, of course, these are also historical facts, then in 1956, many western countries. fueled the problems that took place, including this related there were mistakes made by the then hungarian leadership, they prepared and trained militants abroad, and transferred them to hungary, but
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in my opinion, it’s still difficult to call any kind of color revolution in its pure form, because there were, after all, of course, there was an internal basis for a serious, as it were , protest within the country itself, this, in my opinion, is an obvious thing, as far as it goes, and then it is hardly necessary to transfer today’s, today’s formulations to the middle of the last century. as for the withdrawal of troops, i am deeply convinced that there is no point. v to one or a country, among the people, to achieve those goals that he considers a priority for
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himself, this applies to european countries, including eastern european ones, but there was no point in keeping troops there if, for these countries, they did not want to see them on our territory, but how this happened, on what conditions it all happened, in what way, this of course raises many questions, but our troops went straight into an open field, many, how many people know about this, just into an open field, with families, is this normal? at the same time, no matter what obligations, any kind, any legal, legal consequences of the withdrawal of these troops were also not formulated, not
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by the soviet or russian leadership, the western partners did not undertake any obligations at all, but at least returned to the issue of expansion or not nato's expansion to the east, but everything was promised, well , our american partners do not deny this verbally, and then they keep calling us: where is the piece of paper? no piece of paper, that's it, goodbye, we promised, well, we kind of promised, but it doesn't cost anything, we we know that even a piece of paper is worth nothing to them, they are ready to choose any piece of paper, but at least they recorded something on paper, and during the withdrawal of troops they could agree, agree on issues of ensuring security in europe, achieve... some kind of - some new design in europe, the same german social democracy , mr. bahr, egon bahr had proposals, i already spoke about this once, to create a new
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security system in europe, which would include russia, and the same united states, and the same canada, but not nato, but together with everyone, for eastern and central europe, in my opinion, this would solve many of the problems of today, and he said then, the grandfather was smart, he said exactly what he said, otherwise you will see, everything will be the same, only closer to russia , a german politician, an experienced, competent and intelligent person, no one listened to him, not the soviet leadership, and especially in the west and in the united states, well, now we have what he said, you know. therefore, the withdrawal of troops, yes, was pointless, but the conditions for the withdrawal this was exactly what we had to talk about, and
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to achieve the creation of a situation that would perhaps not lead to today ’s tragedies and today’s crisis, so, well , perhaps that’s all, yes, i answered your questions, if i forgot something, please thanks. since they started talking about germany right there in the center, my name is stefan huth, i’m from germany. i would like to talk about what you just mentioned, about the special military operation in ukraine, it is often said that this is an anti-fascist operation, that it is necessary to liberate the people of ukraine from the nazis, and the country needs to be liberated and so on, and against this background it is not entirely clear how this can be, it turns out that we are in contact at a high level, we are in contact between parliaments, and even german
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parties are in contact, we have also parties that are deeply russian in their essence and of course, they have no sympathy for the russian people , they do not understand at all that russia is a multinational country, as was already said in your speech, that’s what i would like to understand, what you are counting on . from contacts with the parliaments of other countries, with other parties, with parties that have a similar sense, almost fascist , do you understand that anti-fascism in europe also does not support your policies, the european anti-fascist movement does not support russian actions, excuse me, please, i would like i would like to ask you, i would like to ask you to specify what
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you mean when you say, a meeting with foreign minister lavrov in 2020, and it was an official meeting, essentially based on fascist movement and anti-fascists in germany do not quite understand the meaning of such contacts and do not understand the meaning of russia’s policy in relation to what, excuse me, please, what do you see, what do you see, and this is what confirms what you said, that they are based in their activities on some then on some fascist, pro-fascist, national socialist ideas,
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can you tell me specifically? associated with the fascists, he regularly goes to demonstrations in dreston, on the anniversary of the events, and he comes out with the fascists, he is a representative of the party alternatives for germany is directly connected with the nazi movement, and this is often talked about, he does not hide the fact that it is a right-wing party, it is clear, that means, look, they asked me from ukraine whether it is fair that we publicly declare that we are striving for denazification, ukrainian political system, well, we were just discussing the situation that developed in the canadian parliament, when the president of ukraine stood and applauded the nazi who killed jews, russian poles, isn’t this a sign that a system has developed in ukraine that we
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has the right to call it pro-nazi, the leader of the state stands and applauds a nazi, and not just some ideological follower of nazism, but a real nazi, a former ss soldier. isn’t this a sign of the nazification of ukraine, and doesn’t this give us the right to talk about its denazification? but you can answer, yes, this is the head of state, but this is not the whole country, and i’ll tell you, you said about those who go to rallies together with pro-fascist elements, but is this really the whole party who go to these rallies? probably not, that's all
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we certainly condemn the pro-fascist, pro-nazi, everything that is just ... these, well, these signs, on the contrary, aimed at establishing some kind of contacts, is supported by us, as far as i know, an attempt was made on one of the leaders, an alternative for germany, federal republic, just now during the pre -election campaign, so... what does this mean? that representatives of this party use nazi methods, or these nazi methods are used against them, because this is the question. waiting for his painstaking researcher, including in your person, in the person of the general public of the federal republic itself, but as for the anti-fascist forces, we have always been with them, we know their position regarding russia, we are grateful to them for this position, and we certainly
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support it , i think that this is all that is aimed at, at revival, at maintenance. relations between us must be maintained and this can certainly be the light at the end of the tunnel in our current relations. thank you, alexey grivich, right there in the back. eh, thank you for the opportunity to ask a question, it is also of a research nature, we are working on the latest events in the gas sector. exactly a year ago, well, a little more, we all witnessed an incredible act, an unprecedented act of international terrorism against critical cross-border, european infrastructure, i
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mean the explosions of northern streams, and you commented a lot on this topic, including monumental negligence. european investigators of political figures in the assessment in this situation, we can say brilliantly, we see the brilliant absence of any clear reaction of condemnation of this fact on the part of the leadership, for example, chancellor scholz or president macron, although the companies of these countries can be said to have directly suffered from these actions since they were and are shareholders, co-owners of these assets and co-investors of these projects , here, but at the same time, numerous leaks have recently appeared that are directly or indirectly trying to assign blame, supposedly the investigation comes to
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such conclusions that behind these acts, deeds ukrainian comrades stand, in this regard, i have two questions for you: first, was there any reaction on the part of these gentlemen political figures of your european counterparts in some direct contacts, and not in official speeches, which did not happen in my opinion, or there, as they say through diplomatic channels , the second question is, what can and will be the consequences if the so-called european investigation, the investigative bodies of european countries, after all... blame for these events, actions on the ukrainian side. the first thing i would like to do is please note that long before these explosions, the president of the united states
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publicly said that the united states would do everything to ensure that russian energy supplies to europe through these pipelines. now i won’t say how it will be done, but we will do it, first, second, the destruction of these infrastructure facilities is certainly an act of international terrorism, third, we are not allowed to participate in the investigation, despite our proposals. no, and apparently , there will be no answer to the question of who is to blame, you always need to answer the question of who
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is interested in this; of course, the american supplier of european energy products is interested. the market, the americans have wanted this for a long time, they achieved it, and by whose hands it no longer matters, but there is another component of this whole problem, of course, if it is ever revealed who did it, we must be held accountable, this is an act of international terrorism, but - one branch of nord stream 2 is preserved, it is intact, it can supply 27 and a half billion cubic meters of gas to europe.
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this is only a decision of the government of the federal republic of germany, nothing more is needed, today it’s a decision, tomorrow we turn everything on, and the gas starts flowing, but they don’t do this, because, as we say, the washington regional committee does not allow it to the detriment of its own interests, gas to europe through turkish flows, and apparently, ukrainian terrorist groups are aimed at causing damage to him, there our ships are guarded, these pipeline systems laid along the bottom the black sea, but they are constantly being attacked with the help of drones , which are being prepared, including with the direct participation of english-speaking specialists and advisers, we hear this on
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the air, that’s where these unmanned semi-propelled boats are being prepared, we hear english speech, this is an obvious fact for us, who ultimately does it, well, draw your own conclusions, but deliveries continue, including through the territory of ukraine, we transit through the territory of ukraine, and we pay money for this transit, so on wait a minute, here we are a lot, i already talked about this, we hear that we are aggressors, that we are so bad, but money, apparently, does not smell, they receive money for transit, with pleasure, that’s why we behave
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openly, transparently, we are ready to cooperate, but they don’t want to, we don’t need to, we will increase the amount of liquefied natural gas produced and sold, we will, we will send it to other markets, where it is absolutely competitive and increases the competitiveness of those countries, i have already spoken about this, where they are our products they do, but as for the investigation , we’ll see, in the end, the bags, as our people say, cannot be hidden, in the end it will still be clear who did it. transit through ukraine, part of our public is perplexed, but why are we doing
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this, this money, so that they um, why do we pay them, we pay money because it is a transit country, and we supply it in transit through ukraine, only because that we fulfill our contractual obligations to our counterparties in europe, well, this strengthens the defense capability of our enemy. this strengthens our financial condition, we get money for it, of course, thank you, taxane has been around for a long time , thank you, it’s an honor and a great opportunity for me to hear your speech, i’d like to switch to the middle east, move away from the topic of international issues, i’m from iraq and soon
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the prime minister of iraq will come to visit moscow, and i am grateful to you for receiving him personally, and now there are numerous problems associated with our country, gazprom also works with us, they have invested large sums in iraq and kurdistan, in particular, and you think. you, that now there is an opportunity to help the parties to the conflict in kurdyzstan, to achieve a peaceful solution and peacefully resolve all the problems that currently exist, since there are other countries in the region that would like, for example, on the contrary, they would like to escalate the conflict, they would like to add fuel into the fire , now i would also like to say that we have already reached the end... of the third year, and don’t you think that the time has come to personally help all
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parties to the conflict in syria, including talk to the government and to the kurds, to the regional forces, to all the regional parties , to finally put an end to this conflict, thousands of syrians have fled their homes, they are being humiliated and there is still no peaceful solution to the conflict on the horizon, i think no one but you now cannot do this, most of the parties to the conflict respect russia, respect president putin, you have very good relations. you just said that we even have parties to the conflict in some states of the middle east, including syria, respect, treats us with respect, i can tell you, this is because we ourselves treat everyone with respect, and we, as far as syria is concerned, are
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supporters of the peace process, including under the auspices of the united nations, but we we cannot replace the contracting parties, we can only create conditions, to a certain extent, if this is acceptable to everyone, to act as guarantors of these agreements, including with the participation of our direct partners in this process, i mean iran and turkey, within the framework of the ostaninsky process, this was done, all this had positive consequences and now everything that has been achieved, and thank god a lot has been achieved, meaning first of all a ceasefire, and conditions have been created for the peace process, all this has been done by us , our partners, with good will, with the good will of the syrian leadership, but of course
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, a lot still needs to be done, it seems to me that... there is an attempt from the outside to create some kind of quasi- state associations on the territory of syria, they do not lead to anything good, and the displacement of arab tribes who traditionally lived in certain territories with the aim of creating these quasi-state entities, this is a difficult story that can lead to a prolongation of the conflict, but we are nevertheless ready to help in every possible way to increase the level of trust, including between the central authorities of syria and the kurds living in the east of the country, this is a complex process, here you know, i try to be very careful, because every word matters, this is the first thing that concerns,
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second, as regards iraq, we have very good relations. from iraq and we welcome the visit of the prime minister of iraq to russia, and there are indeed many issues that are of mutual interest, and of course , first of all, they lie in the energy sector, but there is another very important issue, in the economic sphere - logistics, i i won’t go into details now, but we know that there are several options for the development of logistics... across the territory of iraq, in general , they all suit us, we just need to choose the most optimal, optimal projects, we we are ready to take part in their implementation , mr. prime minister will come, and we will be happy to discuss all these issues, including those related to regional security and security within iraq itself,
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for many, many decades we have maintained the most... relations with iraq , we have a lot of friends there, and we want and strive for a situation of stability to emerge in the country and, on the basis of this stability, the economy and social sphere to develop, we are waiting for the arrival of mr. prime minister, i am sure that this visit will be very productive and timely, thank you taisukibiru, please here. thank you, thank you. japan, and, last time, i was given the opportunity to ask a question, this is the top, 18
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