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tv   RIK Rossiya 24  RUSSIA24  October 6, 2023 4:00am-4:31am MSK

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what is wine? wine is the emotion you get after taking a sip. we are going to meet the youngest winemakers in russia. i became interested in winemaking at the age of 12; my father instilled this in me. my grandparents made moonshine, so i think it all started from that. winemaking has a million options, you can create as much as your imagination allows. now i want to ask a question to all those who, including in this studio, when they came here, shouted that our leadership has no strategy, i want to say hello to everyone, big ardent greetings, wave your hand like this about this, now as for the doctrine, the most important thing has been said, you just need to be able to listen, i agree, by the way, that they don’t listen, well, they don’t know how to listen, but what does that mean?
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excuse me, it will be stronger, as they said to goethe’s fausta, in the sense of stronger than a preventive strike , because, well, we can consider nato’s participation in this conflict at any stage as threatening our existence, the state, we are in our right. in this part, when we decide that there is a threat, then we’ll decide, we have such a right, for example, terrorist attacks on nuclear power plants, any options, it’s not even what i ’m talking about now, you’re just illustrating, of course, yes , therefore, you see, this is much stronger than the doctrine of a preventive strike, an order of magnitude stronger, because in a preemptive strike, you still have to... well, consider something
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, yes, but here, and here there is a right, if you consider that your life is a threat, you can use it, all this is recorded, and here it’s important, i’m with dear andrey, here’s a little i don’t agree, of course, the third thing is important, about the fact that to equalize the disparity in ratification of the treaty not to conduct nuclear tests, you know, this all matters, and it seems to me that the president understands this very clearly, look, we have a ratified treaty , this ratification transforms the international treaty into the status of internal restrictions for our executive power, well, what if it was ratified by the federal assembly, then it agreed that such restrictions apply to our country, decision
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accepts... including, if this happens, then our executive power will be free from restrictions in this part, when it considers it necessary to conduct tests, then it will conduct it and the consent, so to speak, of the legislative body of the federal assembly for this will not be necessary in this case , this is very important... this is an opportunity for the president to directly, very quickly make a decision on tests, if any are required, period, i want to leave it for later, because a big topic for discussion is whether there can be a civilization, a country owning colonies, because as a rule such civilizations were, another question is how we now define civilization, where we look, but it is so complex in the sense that
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there are civilizations that lead the world to prosperity, and there are civilizations that throw the world back into the colonial past, to which putin said that nothing will work out for you, but he’ll simply rule it out here based on simple terminology, what we’ll now call it, probably it’ll just be so big, you see, andrey, you didn’t say a word, with you already disagreed, no, we saw in our eyes, the international treaty comes into force when it comes into force , the 1990 comprehensive nuclear test ban treaty comes into force only after it is signed and ratified by 44 states that have nuclear reactors, that is, a state that uses a nuclear reaction. now
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41 states have done this, of which three states have not done this, and this is not only the united states, well, of course, there are israel and china. that's until they not ratified, signed by 184 states, 168, this treaty has been ratified, but it is not in force, we can, in principle, if we want , we can conduct this nuclear test even today, tonight, without violating this treaty, because it has not entered into force, not maybe, maybe for one simple reason, another thing is that putin thinks like a lawyer , yes, excuse me, yes, yes, and being a lawyer, he understands well what they are doing, another question is, we... have taken on obligations, we carried out these procedures for our internal understanding of our legislation, it is correct to revoke ratification, the same putin has now transferred this to the level of the state duma, we can do this and we can, we can
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revoke ratification, moreover, he clearly said that this is a mirror thing, that is, most likely , we will not be the first to do this, but since recently there was a message that we, the chinese, and the americans are preparing mines, for whom this test will now be the most pressing, this will be the most pressing for those who lag behind in these programs, and in these programs it is mainly one country that lags behind, but this is your logic, putin’s logic, putin’s logic sounded different, from the word completely, putin said that it is just symmetrical in relation to the americans to mirror. according to the legal status, whether or not testing is necessary is left not to the chinese, not to the american country, but to our experts, who, based on our national interests and requirements for the product, will say whether this
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test needs to be carried out or not, of course, i’m just now i’m speaking to those for whom this issue is the most important and relevant of the three countries that really... have a sufficient number of nuclear arsenals, nuclear missiles, warheads and the like, which, in principle , need to be tested periodically, of course, but no , here we were talking about a different test altogether, this is a violation of logic in what you are saying, because if we show and test weapons that are so breakthrough and promising, for others it’s like since it’s a cold shower, i’m sorry, there’s no... we are now testing classes of weapons that are not in the treaties, we can carry them out any way we want in principle, again you didn’t
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hear, you didn’t hear what putin said, putin is very specific, very clearly settled on the product, what is what and how? right. but it is not limited to these tests in our country, again, putin said how he feels about this test, how it should be done, let me remind you that this is a product with a nuclear propulsion part, and that it’s not just that, what kind of agreements limit one second, literally, these are nuclear technologies, and that this is not a nuclear bomb, not a nuclear charge, yes , firstly, it’s not a fact that this is not a nuclear charge, start limits nuclear, wait a minute, wait a minute, we’re not talking about start, but about the test, about the tests, that yes, that means, here i am, i’ll now risk quoting the president exactly, at least as i heard him, the burevestnik has a warhead, it’s nuclear, experts say is it necessary for a new carrier, test the nuclear part,
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because on the new carrier there are thoughts like she will behave, this discussion continues, and let the professionals decide this, the simple fact is that there are no treaties that limit us to this, nuclear where it will be nuclear, oh, god, nuclear, if you understand what petrel has, then we just shut up, we don’t have that level of access, that is, if we all just weren’t here at all, yes, but in any case, what the president said, i really liked this, because i’m finishing... these are the questions that we are here with you discussed, use nuclear weapons, not use nuclear weapons, here is one question, why , that the president asked, it was an interesting question, we need to answer it, whether it is necessary to use it, he said, when it should be used, the doctrine needs to be changed
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now, he also said that, in principle, it doesn’t need to be changed, it already has it all built in, the second question, the question about the un, i also have a question that... constantly arises here, it’s constantly about some kind of centric world, the president also made it clear that the un should not be abandoned, because without the un there will be chaos and the need to change this system , which was connected with the un, it was never centric, it was, in principle, built as un-centric, that is, it was supposed to be four policemen who were supposed to rule the world, but it didn’t work out that way , he spent many decades of the cold war, and then the americans of the centric world, the americans were unable to change it, i really liked the fact that who, in principle, vladimir vladimirovich is going to take, that’s who russia will stand for when it increases the council security, to form a security council, in fact it turns out that we have two brix countries there, yes already, take the other three
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others here first, everything will be fine in this regard, when to take, i’m not, he said that of course, he talked about india for a very long time, he talked about brazil, then he immediately added this interesting point when he added south africa, because here, really, without breaking anything, but simply including in the security council , this organization will not be able to reform, but the fact that we do not reject it and the fact that we we want, we would like to keep it, but changes. it must be reformed, it must, new
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, new members must be included there, this is important, and the question volodya, i must upset you, apparently we won’t go to lisbon, why did they decide this, well, i decided this way, according to reasoning vladimir vladimirovich about what europe actually is like there, he spoke about the elite, when no one wanted to sit with schroeder, the following question was asked, what did he say about normal national leaders who self-destructed. no, with the current one, with by the current elite with the current trends in europe, there, apparently, now , at least, the question of us going somewhere there is closed, because it is another important one, you again did not hear putin, i heard putin, when he said, especially, that odessa is a russian city, this is a very good one, and about questions about territories, he also says the right way, i told him that this is not a question of territory, which means that we will
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stop where we deem necessary, regardless of the territory, that’s when he said, of course, that’s not ours there civilization, which means not ours, it was said that we have a common root, but this one is from a common root , they have now moved away, in fact, correctly, so let’s take the root, and the last thing i wanted to say, you know, is to ripen. they talked about a new world order, in general, to be honest, history teaches one thing: the world order, the new one creates a winner, it has never been the case that it is created by two forces, which are so, right, so the tribuneist must be used, it must be shown that they are therefore, in fact speaking, the president said that we can, we can win without using this, just a minute, what did you say, everything was decided, what did you say somewhere today about why to use it, here it is again. not so , here, here again, here again, why change the doctrine when it allows us everything, why
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change the doctrine on the use of nuclear weapons, why? that's right, when he finds the answer, why, then he will accept that he will use it, that's right, now i just need to change, not sarmatian or posedon, and now i will have to say, poseidon or petrel, with armat, but he... with the avant-garde yes, that is, now there is no need to balance the combination, that is, something like this, but we have everything, and the fact that you are constantly trying to limit our capabilities in the use of strategic nuclear weapons is your political, i believe that strategic deterrence operates, in the current conditions , so to speak, the fact that we gain an advantage, it is even more strengthened, and what it restrains is holding back the west from unleashing a really major, large-scale war. there's a war going on now indirectly.
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i'm sorry, i'm using such a bad term, you tell the boys at the front that they have a cold war going on when they die, and this is our country, so in the middle it is cold for europe, on whose territory bombs do not explode, but in our country it is very hot, because this is a war on our constitutional territory, so for us this is not a cold war and not limited, yes, but a lot of interesting things were said, indeed the speech was so calm and competent, but strictly speaking, this is putin’s strong point, here again i agree, i disagree, no matter how i argue with it. and what i would like to highlight for myself there, of course, is the civilizational approach, although this was said, but nevertheless , it seems to me that this is very important, once again president putin said that russia is a sovereign civilization, especially in the current conditions , it seems to me that this should put an end to these endless conversations about where we should move, we don’t need to move anywhere, we are in our place, we really really
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civilization, we don’t need certificates from anyone with permission on how to live, but only taking into account 30 years of total secondaryness, this will still have to be proven by the country’s own citizens to themselves, because to what putin said about the fact that civilization is people , self-sufficiency, which , strictly speaking, you can’t argue with, you can add a lot more, i would add that a sovereign civilization is distinguished by its own way of thinking, here is its own way of thinking, its own language of argumentation, its own a view of the world, a sense of self, based on culture, traditions, religion and other things, this is what distinguishes civilization, the internal ability for this self-sufficiency, it is measured by the fact that you do not need other people’s supports, other people’s, so to speak, tracings and other people’s opinion for in order to form an absolutely objective, deep, personal, so to speak, opinion about any phenomenon in this life, we still need to work with this, because the fact that we have designated this, so to speak, as a goal, is
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undoubtedly very important, it's historical, right? to say, a historical moment, but so far, in my opinion, all of these 30 years... have been so secondary in everything from education, culture to economics, that getting rid of this legacy of these, so to speak, years will be extremely difficult, first of all, to live out in our own heads, in our own souls, in the heads and souls of our young people, this concerns education, culture, attitude to life, even habits, ways of communicating, language in the end, because this is very important, yes, here you will have to work a lot, by the way, you you know, about philosophers of ships, trains and planes, here we need the work of philosophers, here we need the work of, so to speak, humanitarians, not those who received grants all the way, so that you know, write all sorts of books in the style of challenge of democracy, yes, but those who are truly capable of thinking sovereignly, yes, and i think that there are enough such people, because you see, time flies and it cannot be missed, it’s like
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you know, with some sectors of the economy, how you can easily disarm the country, so to speak , yes, to ruin it... the economy, it’s enough to take away a job from one generation, and not give it to another, that’s it, after a fairly short period of time, they have already died or have gone into circulation, so to speak, as they say, and these have not learned anything, i mean i observe, by the way, some of our young people who sincerely love their country, really want to do something, but no matter what they do, they always succeed in some kind of american thing, well, really, you know, well, that’s what they want to play something patriotic and still take it square. so to speak, this is the most rock-roll thing, yes, well, i’m just exaggerating this, well, they want to film something like that, so to speak, like, yes, so to speak , well, it all turns out like a hollywood craft, there is a third-rate craft, well, i want something like that to write as if yes, well, it doesn’t work out, not because they are bad, but because they have really forgotten how, because they grew up in a secondary world where ersatz, so to speak
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, copies became role models , this is a very serious, deep work that would require, as it were, a lot of comprehension the work of legislators, by the way, because we have declared that we are a civilization, tra-ta-ta, about traditional values , by the way, we have adopted laws there, yes, well, for example, let’s say, the development of systemic by-laws, it has not yet , it’s missing, well, here’s the law banning lgbt propaganda, good, but not enough, listen, lgbt is like that , well, well, of course it’s important, but to be honest, it’s not the most important thing in life, it’s undoubtedly important, wait, it’s a thought that needs to be digested during the commercial break, and then sergey. will continue since may, appointed here as the commander of the twentieth motorized rifle division, which i am very proud of, it’s never quiet here, it’s just that when it’s quiet it’s always annoying , when you were mobilized, they asked you how you turned out to be such a handsome man, i didn’t
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ask where dad was from, well, do you really have a warring international? how different is nato's concept from ours? they don't have the experience that we have. the most expensive reward is when the staff calls you dad. well, so to speak, yes, this will require a lot of work because again i say the only thing is accepted. in this sense, the law there is about banning lgbt propaganda, it is important, this is a fight for youth, but i repeat once again, this is not the meaning of life, this is simply the most striking manifestation that requires a quick reaction there, but there is a fear that it will appear that, well, this is enough , we have ticked everything, so to speak, but here there is no need for imitation, so we seem to constantly fall into some kind of imitation, so to speak, let’s stick it to everything that is not ours
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an american flag, so to speak, or rather a russian flag, it will be like ours, and let's gather, so to speak, some half-naked girls, in principle, against half-naked girls, i have nothing against it, as if yes, but if it is presented like this to say that, relatively speaking, there is sovereign creativity there just because they will have the russian flag on their shorts, this is not about that. yes, that is , imitation is not needed here, real deep historical creativity is needed here, and this is difficult, it requires serious effort, but this is exactly the kind of effort history requires of us now, if we don’t apply them, but try to imitate them, then i’m very afraid that even military victories won’t help us, so to speak, because if everything inside here is exactly the same as, so to speak, there too, but only under a different flag, it will not be a sovereign civilization. it was rightly said, we know how to win wars, but we are losing peace. exactly so, and this is a super-important task, a super-important task, because you can even win a military victory, you can even gain a foothold in the territories, you can, so to speak, fix
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material success, and at the same time lose the battle for souls and minds, consider that all your military successes on the battlefield were meaningless, you were defeated simply in a different way, that’s all, now we need this historical creativity, especially since in fact we have what to rely on, our culture, no matter how much they talk about its connection with and so on, etc., it is incredibly deep, by the way, russian literature of the century, and the twentieth, undoubtedly, the beginning, at least for sure, it gave such deep examples of comprehension yourself and the world around itself, that even the western world is forced, so to speak, to bow in reverence , yes, before our writers, and before our , so to speak, concepts that are also expressed there, dostoevsky was undoubtedly a political writer, one can argue with him, he, so to speak , the writer is, so to speak, so difficult and he is largely an idealist. but i spoke about russia as a country which, in the future, which lies in understanding that moral and moral principles must still become principles
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states, should become the principles of the state, and at the same time, perhaps, even the material will be somewhere in second place , so to speak, yes, but ideally in the first place, despite all the fact that it is clear that he was an idealist and the writer was not can create a political program, there is no talk about this, i’m just saying that we have a very deep basis for this historical creativity, it ’s this secondary thing that we first of all have to squeeze out of ourselves, starting from everything, i say, so to speak, from language ending with the same economy, this is a very important task, that is, yes, civilization, and it is very important that the president speaks about it, but this will still take a long time to prove to ourselves, this will require very serious, very serious work, and regarding the so-called multipolar world , a few words, yes, in general, in fact, the world has always been multipolar, well, in its historical extent, it has never been one that... was ruled by one person, and moreover, attempts, and so say, and projects to seize power around the world, they uh, when
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appeared, ended sadly, i think that the american project will end in exactly the same way, but i have the impression that the west has already realized that the world is multipolar and it will be multipolar, but now this western civilization is pupating, yes, we are talking about that they want to dominate the world, but to be honest, it seems to me that the smartest of them have already understood that... sole power over the planet is simply impossible, yes, they seem to have this period, so to speak, there speaking about 20 years ago, when it seemed to them that the end of the world, that’s it, but it ended quickly, by the way, they ate it up very quickly, not being able to present to the world anything that would really convince it to be under their rule, by and large their concept falls apart before our eyes, and if not economically so to say, dominance, not financial, not financial dominance there , well, a lot would already be waking up now, in principle, putin talks about this too... he also talks about this, now western civilization, it seems to me, also strictly outlines its main
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the boundaries of their sphere of influence, and the main struggle, and a direct armed one, is with russia, including the fact that it was not possible to expand these borders of this civilization at the expense of russia, in this sense they were defeated, by the way, this is the most serious defeat of the west , because they wanted to expand the scope of their civilization at the expense of russia and this would be a powerful increase, so to speak, a multiple increase in their capabilities, and this... war, they lost, have already lost, then they will, so to speak, fight for what can you bite off post-soviet space, this is where the main problems are, in fact, to be honest, this was clear 10 years ago, and 20, so to speak, and even those who dealt with this in the post-soviet space did not always talk about it, there and they wrote, etc., etc., that this is where the main struggle will be, yes, but this struggle for the post-soviet space is of course not over, the main risks for us will be concentrated here, because it is easier for us to come to an agreement with those who, for example, say, there further from us. even there it’s easier with china to come to an agreement with india on a number of issues with someone else than with those who are here, nearby , who are determined by rossophobia and seduced by empty promises, empty promises
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of the west, the last literally phrase: because for some reason the post-soviet person, by the way, is incredible malleable to these myths, incredibly malleable, this is also still there to disassemble and disassemble, by the way, this is what many do not understand when they are surprised that such small amounts are needed to buy, yes, yes, yes, they do not understand that westerners can buy a significant part of national traitors living in post-soviet territory, even for the promise of a visa, for the promise of the opportunity to stay. that’s the problem, they don’t even need money as such, it’s just an opportunity to leave and become part of the world they desire, this is also, by the way, a question of research, yes, because the post-soviet person turned out to be incredibly loose, incredibly susceptible to some then in general, so to speak, empty stories, so to speak, and empty promises, there is no core in him, which many once thought was there,
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the very last thing is about the value approach, putin spoke here , answering questions from journalists about values , about what we have in common, that in fact, so to speak, many people love us, respect us, and so on and so forth, but however, it seems to me that in this part, again about our own, we need to work more, including with the people who are there, including with the people in the west, because we are talking about values, about sovereign civilizations, but in reality we work mainly in the field of money, brix is ​​about money, shoos is about money, the european union is about money. about money, about money, about money, but the world’s money is not with us yet, it is not with us, it is not this, not money that wins people’s sympathy, sincere sympathy, they are not bought, although the economic factor is extremely important, by the way, if we talk about self-sufficiency, here we have a lot of work to do to become economically self-sufficient, but still a value-based approach, it needs to be developed, we need to work on this , and russia now has a chance, being firstly in the center of the struggle, and at this junction
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different... regarding this, in vladimich putin’s speech it was said that there are no sovereign leaders in europe, or they are very difficult to find, well, in fact, the european policy of russia and china, it is, in principle, somewhat similar, and we, the chinese, stand for strategic autonomy of europe, that is, indeed, if sovereign, real leaders appear, and not ... leaders of occupied europe, occupied by nato or the troops of anglo-saxon countries, then there will probably be a completely different conversation and no explosion of northern flows, no refusal of the chinese market probably will not be, here is a very good precedent - this is the appearance of such a small country as slovakia robert fitz, and as a leader, but not only let’s say, a person who opposes the supply of weapons to ukraine is very friendly to china, and he always has
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a very good player we had close relations with the chinese, certain relationships, they really don’t like those politicians who advocate the atlantic choice, this is a kind of victory, here we need to ask such an essential question, when will europe become free, if there are huge contingents of american troops are, yes, that is, it is practically impossible, well, the first is a victory in ukraine, a deep conviction is that after such a blow, in many european countries those forces will really raise their heads that will say that nato is not capable not be able to cope with any security challenge and it is necessary to build some kind of collective security system for europe, which is much talked about by the continental army and so on, but nato itself will not dissolve itself, by ninety seventh year, she will not go beyond borders.
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i’ve been working towards this all my life, we expect to do it in 10 days, this will be a record, rubbish.

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