[000:00:00;00] not a single one, but why did this happen, because many witnesses say that they were there, there were snipers, they were just not restored, there was an opinion, and i think this opinion is mine too, that it is not excluded , that a command was given to install snipers, and specifically, even one of the snipers. well, for example, a lot of people were talking about the shots, it was somewhat similar that they could shoot from the roof of the us embassy, ​​but please tell me, yeltsin would have sent someone to the roof of the us embassy, ​​it’s unlikely, it’s unlikely, but then again, that means

a lot of people said that the snipers were from israel. we'll continue the documentary in a few minutes, but now let's get back to the main news. in new kokhovka , an attempt was made on the life of the executive secretary of the local branch of united russia, vladimir malov. the governor of the kherson region , vladimir salda, called the incident a terrorist attack and said that those responsible would be brought to justice. senator from the kherson region igor kastyukevich reported that united rossa’s car was blown up this morning, he himself was taken to the hospital in serious condition hospital. the circumstances of the assassination attempt are now being clarified by law enforcement. organs. we regard this as a terrorist attack aimed at civilians, aimed at those people who are building a new life. now, uh, alexander is in the hospital, doctors are fighting for his life. the israeli army announced the launch of a counter-terrorism operation in the gaza strip

called iron swords. dozens. for the goals of the radicals. meanwhile, benjamin netanyahu stressed that israel is in a state of war. the prime minister ordered to clear border settlements from militants and mobilize reservists. israel's actions were a response to a massive attack on israeli territory. several thousand rockets were fired from the gas sector. the militants managed to penetrate israeli territory by land, air and sea. there are reports of deaths. as the hamas leader stated, the palestinian military operation was a response to the quote: aggressive actions. israeli authorities against the al-aqsa mosque in jerusalem. meanwhile, according to media reports, palestinian president mahmoud abbas held an emergency meeting and declared the right of the people for self-defense against israeli troops. now there is a small advertisement, and then a continuation

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to join the shooters, i don’t presume to judge, but this was not investigated, in the bodies of the dead near the white house, what kind of bullets were there, were they ours or foreign ones, and you know, well, first of all, all this went through examination everything was ours, i can tell you, almost 99%, no matter what bullets were fired, as a rule, the bullets, the bullets themselves, when it passed through a threaded barrel, then hit the human body, then they took it out of there, this is to be established, what and whose bullet it is is impossible. surprisingly, in those days crowds of people gather near the white house to observe the power confrontation with their own eyes; the entire

embankment area is packed with people. the most curious and desperate ones occupy places on the roofs. the white house is here in full view, for them everything that happens is political a performance where the ending will be bloody and scary. the worst thing is that there were a huge number of people standing on the bridge who applauded after each shot, but what were they applauding for? victory of democracy over the conservative parliament. many onlookers, most desperately, ran to the white house on the first floor. through broken glass, the windows penetrated inside, on the right side there was a room for managing the affairs of the supreme council and there was a storage room where gifts were kept

that the deputies, the supreme council, during official meetings, gave delegations, these people, who can almost be called looters, penetrated, despite the shots, despite the fire starting there, which means they dragged these... towards evening, the entire top of the white house will be arrested, accusing in organizing mass unrest and sent to liforto, everyone experienced their defeat in their own way, khazbullatov was absolutely confused, rutskoi behaved confidently, it turned out to be rich military experience, did you have the opportunity to leave the white house and avoid arrest, avoid, but this the same thing as running away, but also how they would treat me after that

, that is, you didn’t have such thoughts at all, no, this is not in my rules, firstly, i’m still, uh, a military man, and i clearly and clearly understand what betrayal is, therefore ... i’m not capable of leaving people to run away after orestes, as i passed , so when the alphas left, so we went out as they ordered and we are waiting, then korzhakov appears and shouts, khazbulatov, rudskoy, and so go there, go through the evaluation and he was there with the alfovites, and he answered the questions of the deputies, so he said, that’s what the comrades from alpha said, they say, not a single hair will fall from khazbulatov’s head, we go out, that’s an interesting thing, and there’s such a black crowd, he’s in front , everyone said, maybe snipers will shoot at me

there, suddenly he lowers himself, this little guy who was walking ahead of me is supposedly tying a shoelace, and then i thought, he lowered himself on purpose, maybe so that someone would shoot, and why didn’t they put handcuffs on the russians, and why, why, they criminals, or what? well, makashov didn’t swear, well, as far as i remember in faye, he was silent, when he got on the bus, he... he started a little bit , so a little bit, what did he say? well, he talked about betrayal, they betrayed their homeland, the country, well, they told him that it was better not to have such defenders for the country, and he fell silent, they were detained in the white house and they were taken from the convoy, they were each placed, they were given an office, well, i had to interrogate... what did makashov say, why did he still join russky and

khazbullatov? when this whole situation happened, he came to moscow and appeared to russian and was appointed deputy minister of defense. he at least talked about the need to save the russian federation, russia. that is, for the sake of saving the country, he will join. naturally. what did you do in prison, how did they treat you there? in prison they treated me very well, starting with the head of the prison, everyone treated me just with this, you know, well, with a desire in general to help somehow, and what did you do in prison, read books, wrote in prison, wrote endlessly, finished my book, conclusion of the world economy, and wrote feverishly from the memories of this great

russian. weren't afraid that you would stay there for several years, i was afraid of only one thing in my life, when i served in the army, fought in afghanistan, look my wives, children, parents in the eyes, if i lose someone, in what conditions of detention, khazbulatov, makashov, who was in the cells with them ? for some time he told me, here i am sitting , i can’t even talk, i’m sitting with a black man, and then we weren’t particularly interested in who they were sitting with, weren’t you alone in the cell? no, at first i was in solitary confinement, then they planted ducks on me so that they would knock what i said, then again in solitary confinement, just like that they moved me from place to place place, after 4 and a half months in february

of ninety-four, all participants in those events, without waiting here, will be amnestied, without restrictions on participation in politics. during this time, the country adopted a new constitution by popular vote, 58% in favor, which, among other things, regulated the post of vice president. i didn’t sign the amnesty, because signing an amnesty is an admission of guilt, is it really my fault that the president violated the constitution, the basic law of the state, no, i didn’t sign, everyone signed, except me, everyone was released, they kept me for a whole week, then they released me, do you think it’s fair that all the instigators were eventually given an amnesty, all the instigators were not punished yet, kazbullatov and russkaya were also victims,

but they were tested, amnestied or rehabilitated, there is a difference, that is, i was forgiven, what did you feel when you were released, but i didn’t feel anything, you know, no relief, some kind of detachment, that is, all these romantic expectations that i shared, i he was such a champion of gorbachev, like most russian intellectuals, but all this has faded away. in the end there was hope, okay, they defeated the ussr, let’s at least do something in the russian federation for society, for the people. how fair is it in your opinion that rutskova and khazbulatova ended up... i don’t really want to answer this question, when i watched, two teams fought, yeltsin, rutsko and khazbullatov, they strangled the soviet team together, they worked together with

these turds that came to destroy, they signed all the documents together, because they didn’t share something and ran away , he didn’t allow them to be released from prison, kazannik ordered their release, well, what happened around boris nikolavich, i can’t even tell you, because he was extremely indignant that they had to release from there, this is the result, as fair as it seems to you personally, the amnesty was in relation to the state committee for the communist party of the soviet union, simultaneous, the same resolution, this is my opinion, if we involve the victims of the october revolution of 1993, this is exactly the definition yeltsin will give those events, there will be almost 200 people, at least a thousand wounded, the charred facade of the white house will remain for a long time a reminder

of what exorbitant ambitions, refusal to compromise and rash decisions lead to, which... but you don’t feel responsible for the deaths of people in ninety-three, and maybe i gave the command to shoot, kill people, of course i have responsibility, i went out into the street and more than once i say, guys, let’s leave quietly, because it’s unclear how it will end, of course there is also some of my guilt. but the main one the culprit of what happened is the president of russia, yeltsin, and the perpetrators erin, grachev, firstly, i will honestly tell you that even after 30 years, i believe that i do not know the whole truth about the events of the ninety-third year, i have

a lot of questions, some of them ended with the death of minister of state security barannikov, who died: very quickly after those events, but was it still possible to avoid bloodshed? well, it was necessary to arrest yeltsin, there was no other way, if rudskaya khazbulatov had surrendered, no there would have been no assault, you see, i was also grazing a bunch of ruts khazbul there, i was very afraid, and grudsky was a follower of the khazbalats... he was treacherous, strong, and he betrayed rudsky, he would have forced rudsky to shoot the kremlin, everything went wrong a certain dead end, because, of course, no one wanted blood from the side, the president, of course, from the side of the supreme council there were military people,

tough ones, who wanted, thought that they could overthrow yeltsin by force, but they simply did not succeed . bloodshed could and should have been avoided was, but this required yeltsin’s departure, which he and his team categorically did not want? you know, the fact is that each side believed that the instigator was the other side, i, as the chairman of the house of parliament at that time, i will say that both sides were to blame. did you meet with yeltsin after you were released? yes, in ninety -six there was a fair in nizhny novgorod and there i met yelets. they stood at nemtsov’s gathering, and i was friends with boris, well, i tried to kind of pass by, i heard

yeltsin’s voice. alexander vladimirich, where are you going? come here. i approached, well, that’s how it is with us, i wish you good health. that is, you were the first to offer your hand, no, i wish you good health, he extended his hand, said hello, and nemtsova says, we have it, he says, we have it, well , they poured it, you say, forgive me, please, i didn’t think it was like that it will end, that’s all, i didn’t see him again, many of the main characters of those events had already passed away, he died in april 2007. khazbulatov in january, fillatov in august of this year. we wrote about the last two shortly before their death. and it seems that they

were sincere. unsure, we could have won, but what would have happened if the supporters of russian and khazbel had won, we wouldn’t be talking here now, the supreme council is also quick, because some wanted a return, others wanted a nationally colored state there to a greater extent, i don’t i can tell you what would have happened, what happened after yeltsin’s victory everyone remembers, the dashing nineties, now a household name, criminal showdowns and a demographic hole, american spies in large enterprises, including defense ones, war in chechnya. the impoverishment of the army and the people , black tuesday of the nineties, when the russian

ruble fell by almost 40%, and the default of the ninety-eighth, when our wooden ruble fell in price by 3 and a half times. the newborn country was looking for its way through stress and upheaval. but it is unknown what would have happened to our homeland if the so-called parliamentary democracy led by khazbullatov, rutssky and their motley supporters had won. things could have been even worse, chaos and civil war. the consequences are dire for millions of our fellow citizens. undoubtedly, everything that happened in ninety-three was a shock and a shock for the whole country. how much did those events influence the course of the history of our country? in our country, of course. this was a turning point; firstly,

the system of councils inherited from the 20th century, generally from the soviet era, was destroyed. secondly, i think, well, every cloud has a silver lining, as they say, the coup of 1993 put an end to the sovereignty of the national republics. this is another important thing that the winners of the ninety-third do not want to admit of the year. the kremlin's alternative to the congress of people's deputies consisted of different models of economic reform. of course, the collapse of the soviet union and the events of 1993 is a direct continuation of the struggle between the reds and the whites. i think that to this day we are still infected with this. condition, so this is a big lesson, a tragic

lesson, especially when today i feel with my skin, my soul, what a dangerous line we were crossing then, since october 4, just in ninety-three, there was an impetus and the constitution of the administrations, the russian state, the subjects russian federation, well, so that russia moves forward, develops, becomes a leading power , the people of the world stand on four main pillars. the first pillar is strong centralized power. the second quality is that we are collectivists. no one can cope in these vast spaces alone. and the russians accomplished a great feat, they under their own banners. another quality: justice, a person cannot exist without justice when all

these four foundations came together in the soviet era , then we became the most victorious in space. there has been a certain bias in the constitution towards strong presidential power; i myself am a supporter of strong power, of course, especially in our huge country, but parliament should not turn into a club of interests. only now a certain correction has been made, by the way, on the initiative of vladimir putin, the parliament has been given certain powers to form the executive branch , to control not only the budget, but over the actions of the government, i think that they have had a very serious impact, firstly, on everything saw that in our country, all the conquests you can’t take something for granted, you have to fight for it, for it... then you have to lay down your life in order for all this to happen, this applies to major

politicians such as yeltsin, chernomdin, these are people who... of course, in general, they put everything on the line, not only their political future, but also their lives, russia was worth it to make great sacrifices, this is still relevant today, that’s why the ninety-third year, it became such a turning point, it became very important, for the record... this is a new time, a new russia, it’s worth a lot, these october days in ninety-three are worth a lot, the event of ninety-third is an inoculation against political adventures, a reminder that you can’t be led by emotions, that you need to protect civil peace, especially in such a large and

a multinational country like russia, of course. the collapse of the union in ninety-one was difficult and painful, the events of ninety -three again opened this aching wound, the past did not let go, the future seemed utopian illusory, and even after 30 years, the witnesses of the participants in those events do not have even a note of reconciliation, there are still many questions to which time will give answers, and

history will judge. we will take on this case, it will be an honest

detective story. returning to the news review, israel is in a state of war, the enemy will pay the price, prime minister benjamin netanyahu said this in response to