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[000:00:00;00] working in general to enter all sectors of the economy, and thus, having decided in favor of the army and in favor of the leading suharta clan, this means the issue of property in indonesia, naturally, suharta did not go for the nationalization of these industries, left them under the control of the army, only after in addition, how the regime ... fell dictatorial began to appear, and curiously in the united states itself, among opposition-minded journalists , investigations, for example, a book called the jakarta method, made a splash , and several films were made about how the west and journalists, australian, american, european, turned a blind eye to what was happening in the country, and did not make it public, and
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thus allowed... indonesia today is the fourth most populous country in the world, with 280 million people living in this country, and indonesia has never turned again, has not been a leftist country, that is, neither socialist ideas nor communist ideas have been dominant in this country... throughout history, since 1965, regarding the system government, democratic institutions are present, but throughout the entire period, which means, suharta’s government, this country remained virtually a totalitarian country, by the way, it should be noted that, uh, suharta’s regime interrupted diplomatic relations with
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the soviet union, they were restored only in the nineties . i often study , i am largely involved in the asia-teco region, and of course, indonesia, the indonesian republic, today is one of the influential states that pursues such a rational, constructive policy in terms of ensuring the security of the region, relations with russia, relationships within the oceanic association, or the osian regional forum... russia and indonesia have, in general, normal business
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partnerships, and that says something. next on the formula of power broadcast we will talk about the 11th president of italy, giorgio napolitana. on september 22 of this year in rome, at
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the age of 99, the outstanding italian politician, eleventh president of italy, giorgi opolitano, died. all of italy, politicians, and diplomats, and ordinary romans , presidents, heads of state of a number of countries, and many other politicians came to rome, and although the funeral was secular, which does not happen so often in today's italy. but his personal pope francis also arrived to say goodbye to his friend. president emeritus, senator for life george napolitan, was given state honors. on september 26, the funeral procession left the palazzo madama, where the senate, the upper house of deputies of italy is located, crossed the historical center of rome, passed through scorsomento, vodorets
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montecetori. lower house of deputy, secular funeral of george napolitana, the first in the history of the republic to take place in montetoria, a sign of respect for the individual. president, all state institutions and diplomatic missions of italy had state flags at half-mast. in italian political circles, george napolitana was jokingly called king george, as he was one of the most influential politicians for many, many years. in fact, there was not a single significant political post that he did not occupy. he was also the chairman of the chamber deputies, and mep, and minister, and president, senator for life, as president of italy, napolitano for many years was the guarantor of the country's stability, and these were
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very difficult times, during the years of his presidency, suffice it to say, he appointed five prime ministers, heroes there were a whole range of political forms of power, we had the honor of talking with five prime ministers and three presidents, of course, in this most worthy series, napolitana occupied a special place, because his life, fate, scale personalities, very special, over the past 150 years of our national italian state. we have had both bright and dark historical periods. we survived the fascist dictatorship, we recovered after the second world war, then there was a big leap in development, we became
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an industrialized country. today, in honor of the great italian george napolitana, we recall our conversation. which took place with him when he was president, it took place in the presidential palace of the quirinali, this special building in rome, a special history, it was once the residence of the popes, then the italian kings, now it is the residence of the presidents of italy, it is truly a historical palace, i honestly try not to succumb to excess. regarding the fact that i am here after many popes, kings and after ten of my famous predecessors , as president of the republic, i am doing my job, fulfilling my duty, and it is necessary to understand that
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according to our constitution, the president of the republic is not the head of the executive branch , he doesn't have executive branch, he has a specific role, which is written in the constitution itself. basically, he is an impartial judge, moderator and guarantor of compliance with the principles of the constitution of the republic. i think that this choice, which was made by the constituent assembly of the fathers of our constitution more than 60 years ago , was a wise decision, that is, a decision in which the head of state is not the representative of any political force, but was the representative of the entire nation and common aspirations all italians. the country's constitution came into force effective january 1, 1948. its text was approved by the constituent assembly elected on the day of the proclamation of the italian republic on
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june 2, 1946. in fact, modern italy arose from the ashes of world war ii. in 1940, italy entered the second world war. on the side of fascist germany, but not all italians shared the position of the militant duchi musaleni. in 1942, at the age of 17, jorge napolitanov joined the illegal communist organization students of the university of naples, and took part in
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in the underground anti-fascist struggle. it is known in russia, it is known all over the world, this song is dedicated to the seventh president of italy, the partisan hero, napolitano, who also went through the heroic school of anti-fascist struggle, you yourself are the resistance, you are a person with a greek past, you have the ideas of the fight against fascism, the idea of ​​resistance, familiar, like no one else, perhaps, to what extent the ideas of resistance that guided you in your time, your friends, millions of italians, how alive they are today in modern italy, i i think that we need to consider the resistance movement not as a fact in itself, but as a colossal proof of the freedom , nobility and independence of the italian
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people. of course, during the resistance there was also a civil war between different groups of italians, a struggle between two sides, one of which was closely connected with nazi germany, with the presence of its troops in italy, i think that we should never forget the right and the cause for which not only the partisans fought. we must end this division that has arisen in the past, and i it seems necessary that it is entirely possible that all italians, regardless of what their fathers did, because entire generations have already passed, have common values ​​that... were formed and won thanks to
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the resistance movement. and among these values, let us not forget the sense of national dignity, the sense of independence of freedom. many of these principles were included in the constitution of the republic. in 1945, giorgia napolitana became a member of the italian communist party and was city secretary. he is there was born and lived with his mother and father, studied at the university, the fate of his native place did not give him peace, in fact, the topic of his thesis at the faculty of law of the university of naples in 1947 speaks for itself, insufficient industrial development. unification of italy
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; special law of 1904 for naples. from 1953, for more than 40 years, napolitana represented naples in the chamber of deputies of the italian parliament. is there such a legend in the world about, let’s say, irreconcilable contradictions between the north and the south of italy, between northerners and southerners, that through everything, you are a native southerner, a neapolitan, of course, the south is near and dear to you, after all , how true is this legend, how strong are these contradictions between northerners and southerners, what are they, to what extent northern italians differ from southern italians, there is a difference , but these are not anthropological differences, these are historical, economic, and naturally,
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historically it turned out that some positive traits were more developed in the north and in the center. for example, history greatly influenced the growth of civil consciousness, a sense of belonging and participation there. these traditions are not as strong in the south, but southerners have a large reserve of humanity. if we have many unresolved problems in the south, then it may not be the people who are to blame, the authorities who lead this country. i don’t want to single out any political party, because many governments have indeed changed, one political force after another has come to power, but no one has managed to solve this
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problem of uneven development. well, where there is poverty, there is crime. south italy and naples with since time immemorial, it was considered the birthplace of the italian mafia. the famous cosanostro, sicilian mafia, ndrangheta, calabrian mafia, comoros, neapolitan mafia. all these names are familiar to us from italian films. classics, it is probably no coincidence that in the government of roman prodi napolitan, a southerner who was familiar with this phenomenon first-hand was entrusted with the most responsible post: minister of internal affairs. enapolitan justified the trust, was a very effective minister, became famous for his rather harsh measures against organized crime. of course, if we think about some areas of southern italy, where the most important criminal structures have
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grown, starting with the mafia, i think that more jobs need to be created there, so that young people do not have... and do not see for themselves future, this is very important, besides this, of course, the police and judicial authorities have all the necessary means at their disposal. i think that your colleagues at the ministry of affairs in russia will also need this advice. it’s difficult for me to judge this; i don’t give advice to anyone. i'm telling you about my experience. in george napolitano was elected president of italy for the first time on may 10, 2006 after the fourth round of voting. by that time he was a senator for life. he
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was 81 years old, but with the highest sense of responsibility he assumed the highest government post in the country. and he plunged headlong into the seething, ever-active current political life of italy. his two presidential terms were repeatedly plagued by various government crises, parliamentary crises, and serious problems in the eurozone, but the wisdom of this great the italian always helped find solutions to the most difficult problems. 2011 was not the best year for the italian economy: the country's sovereign debt reached 1.9 trillion euros. everyone was afraid of default. president napolitana gives instructions to form a new government. in italy , this change of cabinet would later be called a turning point and
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a historical moment. the new italian government consisted entirely of technocrats. there was no politics there. less than a year later, on september 7, 2012, prime minister mario monti, professor of economics, said: we managed to prevent the collapse of the italian economy and the entire eurozone. in 2013 , napolitan's first presidential term ended, but after repeated rounds of presidential elections, parliament was unable to find someone who would occupy the country's main post. then, napolitana puts forward his candidacy, as he put it, out of feeling, responsibility to the nation. on april 22, 2013, giorgia napolitana takes the oath of office as president, becoming the first head of state in italian history to be re-elected for a new
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seven-year term. january 14, 2015, after 2 years of the second presidential term, george napolitana. wrote an act of his resignation in three copies, which the head of the presidential chancellery personally delivered to the council of ministers in both houses of the national parliament. together with his wife maria cleu betonni, napolitana left the querrenal palace about an hour and a half after his resignation. in the courtyard of the residence, he was given military honors. after that , chita napolitana got into the machine. headed to her roman apartment. of course, a conversation with george napolitana, a native neapolitan, about what does his last name say, which was truly a neapolitan of neapolitans. i couldn’t help but ask him about some of his
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flavors, preferences, personal interests, what kind of cuisine he likes, although i already knew the answer in advance, and of course, the famous... neapolitan pizza, but the cuisine, well, let’s say, the famous italian pasta, it is the same for southerners for northerners, or pizza, is it an invention of southerners or northerners, of course, pizza is an invention of the neapolitans, i think that in naples they make the best pizza in italy, i would even say the best pizza in the world, since pizza has become an international dish, well, let's just say that... but above all else, the greatness of italian cuisine, if i may say so, perhaps this is too pompous a term, lies in its diversity. i love neapolitan cuisine, but i assure you that, for example, in
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venice or tuscany, the food is also excellent, and if we talk about the south of italy, we can say that in sicily the food is excellent, in our country there is a great variety in everything, including in the kitchen, this is our strength, now soon lunches, yes, but if i go ... i think that i won't find pizza here, here in verinal they don't serve pizza, i'll tell you a story, literally it's 30 seconds, which was told to me during our interview, his majesty king juan carlos , the spanish king, when i asked him why he lived in a small palace and not in a big one, he said that when his grandfather, king alfonso raised him, he told him, grandson, never live in a big palace, but live in small, why did grandpa ask juan carlos, because i already said i have been a king for 12 years and have never been able to drink hot coffee here, but to be honest, i have the opportunity sometimes to go somewhere to a bar
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to drink coffee, or to a restaurant to have lunch, i allow myself this, i think that king juan carlos also allows himself this, many years ago, when sandro pertini was president of italy, he really loved going to a restaurant in rome to dine there with pertini, but i don’t have another small palace, i only have apartment, even an apartment, where i can’t to live more, because given the security measures, i would make it impossible for all the inhabitants of this quarter to live, george's wife napolitana maria cleo bitoni was born on the island of ponza, george and maria. they met at the university of naples, and then met in rome, where giorgi had already begun
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his parliamentary career, and got married in 1959. maria cleo forever remained a convinced socialist, worked as a lawyer, specialized in labor law, and helped farmers. i know that in your youth you were fond of theater, even, in my opinion, you played some... in a performance, to what extent have you retained your love for theater and carried it through your life, what are your personal interests focused on today? well, in my youth i was involved in theater , i was very interested, but even when i grew up and began to get involved in politics, i was still interested in theater, cinema, music, in particular russian theater, russian cinema, russian music. in general, joint in all areas, in culture, in science, we can talk for hours, i think we should never
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forget, we must always appreciate these traditions, a feeling of sympathy and friendship developed over centuries between our peoples; often in history there was quite close cultural cooperation between us. when napolitano became president, maria cleu accompanied him on all state trips, but everyone talks about her as a very democratic, modest person. there is a known case, for example, when maria cleo, contrary to protocol, being the wife of the president, as an ordinary citizen, lined up for the vermeer exhibition, which was held in the stables of verinale, insisted on buying a ticket, just like that... your character, an extraordinary woman, worthy of her
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husband, they lived together in perfect harmony for 64 years, uh, i know that you have a wonderful family, lord president, wife donna clio, two adult sons, giulio gevanni, how often do you manage to get together with your family, after all, the italian family is such a special concept , a truly wonderful family, i am very happy and proud of it, but even before, when i did not have the position that i have now, often i could not devote enough time to my family, including children, and to be honest, my wife has always helped me a lot, my wife and i now live in the same house, it happens all the time... although, of course, my head is often occupied with work problems.
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i have an excellent relationship with both sons, one of whom gave me two. grandchildren, i keep in touch with them, try to get to know them better and love them, today , paying tribute to the memory of the great italian, one president of italy, george napolitano, the porn authorities would first of all like to express my condolences to his wife, maria and cleo bitoni, his sons... to say that what he did for his country, for the ties between italy and russia, we will always remember. george naplitano was buried in the roman non-catholic cemetery testaciu. this is
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your book, mr. president, this is your autobiography, it’s called. from the italian communist party to european socialism, this is exactly the path that you have taken, mr. president, in your life, you wrote it before you became president, but can i ask you to inscribe it for our programs?
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of course, we will take on this case, it will be an honest
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detective story. israel has completed the first phase. operations against hamas, the army and police destroyed most of the militants who entered the country the day before, and 10 hamas facilities were destroyed in the gaza strip, including the organization’s headquarters. prime minister netanyahu announces the start of the offensive. in addition, strikes were carried out on the territory of lebanon in response to mortar attacks. an official representative of the iraqi government called the escalation of israeli relations "polistino"

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