[000:00:00;00] then this position is filled by someone, the vice president, the vice president, when they tell me that the constitutional court there decided to excommunicate yelchin from power, yes, but the fact is that the constitutional court itself was a body that was not approved by the constitution the russian federation did not exist yet, that’s the whole problem, it was a legal stalemate from which there was no way out without the goodwill of the parties. and on the part of the supreme council, i am sure of this, there was no good will, from the white house, in which light, heat and telephone lines have been turned off since september 21 connection, rutskoi is already issuing presidential decrees, but no one carried them out and was not going to carry them out, tell us about that meeting that took place by candlelight, literally on the third, on the fourth day before the light

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conducts a march around the white house, after the decree was issued, when i received a certificate signed by boris nikolaevich, he gave me an hour later called, he and what you have, that means... the first steps, i answered him that first, i believe that it is necessary to pursue such a policy in order to prevent bloodshed, this phrase was said, what are you talking about, what kind of bloodshed, there will be no bloodshed, the first blood was shed already on september 23, terikhov’s group attacks the cis headquarters, two are killed, on october 2 there are already large-scale clashes with the police on smolenskaya square. white house supporters are blocking traffic along the garden

ring, erecting barricades and burning tires. aan, arrest yalcin. we will win. cheers cheers. 29 people were injured, mostly police officers. but you had a machine gun, you were ready to use it, or you went to the journalists just for a spectacular picture. i didn’t leave, in extreme cases i would have been forced to use it, from this building for the people, for the employees. no one shot, but why were there so many weapons in the building of the house of soviets? when yeltsin was chairman of the supreme council, he decided to create a security service for the supreme council, and there, on the first

floor from that entrance, was the headquarters of the supreme council security service council, where there was a weapons park in which machine guns, pistols, and cartridges were stored. there are still no exact figures on exactly how many weapons were inside. according to the prosecutor general's office, which conducted the criminal case, opened after the october events , there were about 2,000 guns in the white house at the time of the assault, plus a sufficient supply of ammunition. more specific figures are given in the inventory materials compiled by the leadership of the defense headquarters of the house of the soviets. 310 machine guns and 500 pistols. ochalov personally gave up the house of soviets, well, there were some armed people there people, when this whole process had already begun, i don’t know how many of them were there , and then a lot came, for example

, barkashov’s group came, a huge group, almost all of them came with weapons, there were more weapons, then quite a lot of weapons were captured in mriya opposite the building, there is a lot there. there were standard weapons, pistols, machine guns, in my opinion, there were several light machine guns, we, in general, negotiated to hand them over, we, together with sergei stepashin, arrived there, talked with barannikov and dunaev, they began to bow down to the point of handing over the weapons, the russian found out about this, said everything, stepankov stepashino , don’t let us into the white house anymore, since they are bringing us in, it means that there is disorganization in ours. how many days did you spend in the white house? from august 20 to october 4, that is, in september you did not leave the white house, no, i went home a couple of times in augusta, i had to get

toiletries and so on, so on, in fact i was here, we spent the 16th there days, and the most difficult ones, of course, when you were in the white house, you tried to contact him talk, tried, repeatedly, he didn’t connect, didn’t connect , repeatedly, because there was a fairly simple solution to this, let’s call it that... like a constitutional crisis, yeltsin more than once spoke about holding joint elections, a congress of people’s deputies, there was no need to distort the constitution, it was necessary to hold simultaneous elections, when rutsskoy and khazbullatov barricaded themselves with... the house, did you communicate with them? yes, i came, and there were

several deputies there whom i knew, they had stomach ulcers, i even abused my the situation that i was not being examined, in the briefcase that my guard carried, he brought them dairy products , white bread, to reconcile the parties and avoid the worst, the holy patriarchate is trying, he urgently interrupts, in the usa, where celebrations are taking place on the occasion of the duality of orthodoxy in america. when the patriarch appeared in moscow, i talked with boris nikolaevich that you need to meet with the patriarch, he agreed, he said, yes, he’s ready. and the patriarch agreed, then we organized their meeting, they agreed in the kremlin that boris nikolaevich said,

fillatov will be in charge of the negotiations from me. soskovets, the pre-government itself, and lushkovskaya, on the part of the president, there were no odious figures , these were very reasonable people who were understanding of the situation and wanted to avoid this bloodshed, a lot of bloodshed, i said so, admonished the delegation, chairmen of the chambers, first question, i... authorized you to accept any compromises, but with one condition: the cancellation of decree number 1400. on october 1 at 10:00 am, here in the st. daniel monastery they begin three-day negotiations between the parties to the conflict chaired by the patriarch. negotiations are difficult and sometimes emotional. oleksiy ii interrupts verbal skirmishes with a short phrase: again we are going into a tailspin, no need. protocol number one, it was signed in the world.

morning, in the svyatodansky monastery, before and after the authority of the patriarch, this was confirmed, but unfortunately, both khazbullatov and ruchka, and many deputies perceived this as a betrayal on our part, and there was a chance to come to an agreement with the president pushed down, this made it possible to get away from the situation of civil war, which was ripening, well, first of all in moscow, in st. petersburg, and then possibly throughout russia, on october 3 at 20:00, the parties were supposed to meet again, by the appointed time no one i didn’t arrive,

everything was already on fire on the street. we said goodbye to the patriarch, by the way, i think he had a heart attack, because he felt very bad, he somehow sat down, but we were already in a hurry, we left, i’m driving up to the kremlin, the kremlin is dark, there’s not a single light, on street, why on the day of the assault the kremlin’s illumination was turned off, there was already a kind of martial law, this was correct, because in the kremlin there was practically... no security left, all the guards that were there were all assigned to participate in the events for outside, well, we know that many ministries were occupied by rutskov ’s riflemen, combat-ready... men , here on the left side they are forming

detachments, today we must storm the mayor’s office , the remains, storm the kremlin with the usurper former criminal yeltsen. elden today should not be imprisoned in silence. all his selling glue must be contained in the dungeon. how was the decision made to send people to the city hall and kostankin, or did rudskoy not advise you? well, what kind of decision is there, there was this rather spontaneous idea, then huge crowds of people broke through the barriers, so the police fled, the labor... at that time the shooting had already started, and i went out myself along with my assistants, security , so i’m thinking, well , now they’ll come and arrest me, that’s it, hello, there’s no assault, why, because fools were shooting, the cartridges were all with

tracers, we took this damn measure. and there will never be any more mayors, no peers, no sirs, no shelter on our land, and why wasn’t security strengthened before, why, because we didn’t know where the signal was coming from, where we could

get the transmission, then and at the same time i sent he sent his deputy there to interact with the police. colonel general golubets, but makashov’s goal was, listen, they moved here and immediately took up defense on the front line along the parapet at 18:30 something like this, makashov demanded megaphone to release the guards, go out and make noise. at the time of the arrival of makashevo’s group, ostankina was for some reason guarded by only 84 servicemen of the internal troops, who had only bulletproof vests and

rubber batons. here it is for me now. dear tv viewers, due to the armed siege of the ostankina television company, we are forced to interrupt the broadcast. who gave the order to ram the doors of ostankino? he, he gave, but... he did not admit this in the interrogation reports, because these were his cars, in the sense that he arrived, he was given a command by the acting president rutssky,

take it so that it could be broadcast on television, but why did makashov go to ostankin , the air is killing people on the streets with sniper guns, and that side the kremlin is constantly promoting... the record of rudsky corrupt, rudsky thief, sniper rudsky, the entire personnel knew that fire can only be opened after shots from the enemy, and when the grenade launcher fired, the military personnel opened fire. some opened fire on top of the crowd, but before that they had already made a passage with vehicles, that is, the mukashites were the first to start,

of course, to prove this on the parapet, now on this platform, as soon as you go up the stairs, there is a sign on the left , if you remove it, there is a trace from a cumulative projectile, you can take a sample there today, now, 30 years later, take it off a test to make sure that it was a cumulative shell, a fragment of 3:2, flew off from this wall and cut an artery, private nikolai sitlikov, a shot from a grenade, or according to another version, an explosion of one of the devices inside the building occurred at 19:10, after which the battle began , which lasted a few. during this time. the defense of the television center was noticeably strengthened; by 21 o'clock there were about 900 armed military personnel and police officers, as well as

24 armored personnel carriers. ostankina was detained. at night, emergency services transport the wounded. there were at least 124 of them, 46 were killed. why anyway? shoot him with a grenade, well, as it should have been, but if we had shot first , then that would be it, then they would blame us here, i am often asked the question, why did you, that means, your troops use weapons, which was impossible not to to use weapons for many years, many could not understand this, this is a very big tragedy, a big misfortune in the history of our country. when the first groups of armed people appeared at ostankino, the management of the second channel, then

called rtr, made an unconventional decision to start broadcasting from a reserve studio on shabolovka, that same studio number 262, which actually saved the country from the information vacuum. starting from the evening of october 3, the broadcast is here and... mode, and this is not only news, they get the opportunity to speak out, as leaders now usually say public opinion, which urge people to stay at home, my colleagues from ostankino, from the first channel of ostankino and i, in general, are very pleased that there is an opportunity to give you this studio and give you the opportunity to express your feelings, work, no matter what words about democracy... to the people they covered up their blood , or rather the blood that their people shed, killing

innocent people, they will never be forgiven for this anyway, i don’t know who was offered to whom today, where to go, who to protect, me i suggest you don’t go anywhere and not protect anyone, our home is our country, it ’s really big, more than these 4 km, look, we’re all gathered here, give us a general plan? so we were all sitting in different companies, drinking, we immediately called each other and came here just to look you in the eyes, let’s look into each other’s eyes now, try to smile, no matter how hard it is, we’ll go to bed calmly, and tomorrow let's figure it out, thank you, i appeal to all citizens of our country who are responsible to their children, with your teams, your parties, movements and trends, why did you decide to make this speech, literally in a few years... i supervised moscow for many years, met with

all the security officials, knew yeltsin closely, held a whole series of major events with him, and i was well aware that reprisals were actually being prepared against the parliament, those who were ruining the soviet country , those who decided to deal with yeltsin’s opponents, their... the plan was completely different, so i believe that it can be stopped, still used such an opportunity, we must create favorable conditions for the process that began yesterday on the initiative of 63 leaders of the republics and regions, and no matter how difficult it may be, we are all interested in ensuring that no skirmishes, no conflicts occur in the coming days, you do not regret

that if the alfovites had acted differently, there would have been five times more corpses, i was then interrogated , they opened a criminal case against me, i got 10 years, i said it when the events at ostankino had already begun, the broadcast was interrupted, you expected, that people would also come to you, given that tas is the main news agency of the country, we were not ready, of course, we understood that something was happening, the basin was, one might say, all the weapons were professional, we had everyone in place , it was sunday, well, to burst into the office, to offer me some kind of deals with this puffin with a weapon, of course, i didn’t expect that. the yeltsin regime is not described in just four words: a real

information bomb. people with machine guns demand that management hand over taz. immediately, they know, to the main agency countries will believe, and it is unknown how the wheel of history would have turned if the plan had worked. and who were the people who came demanding the release of the news, the yeltsin regime unreported? as i understand it, these were random people, they were carrying out some kind of assignment, well, i saw them, they called in front of me, reported that the general director was against it, such executors, armed. they brought me rudsky’s decree, which means i ’m fired, here’s a new director, a new director, he also seemed to me to be a random person, completely not from our workshop, they collected board, well, the whole board said that they would not work with the new

director, after that there was a whole night of threats. since they did not know the technology, i managed, together with my, of course, comrades, to make sure that tas was provided with such security, not to give away what we could not give away under any circumstances. almost hundreds of people, armed to the teeth, many of them completely drunk, are participating in the attempt to seize the central office of tas in leonti lane. investment rating, economics, through specific stories, we can to reach people, we often talk about money, the amounts are serious, in russia there is a rosary and a clear signal, at what point you

will say: everything i did in this project, everything i could, i will never say. is russian industry capable of replacing foreign suppliers? it is necessary to mobilize all resources, give me a recipe, in general, this is how to achieve what you have achieved, it seems to you that you are on top of the world, you got up, dusted yourself off and went, is russia ready to change,

evolution occurs in any structure. why are you pestering me, what do you want? every time i worry when he leaves, but he comes back, he didn’t promise. lord of

the wind. and we continue to follow the main thing for today. so, for the first time in 50 years, israel enacted clause 40 alek, meaning a declaration of war. it was last deployed in 1973 during the yom kippur war. death toll from strikes. hamas in israel, according to the kan state channel, has exceeded 600 people, meanwhile foreign countries are hastily evacuating their citizens from israel. so poland is preparing to send for export people on a military transport plane , the greek embassy also announced the evacuation of citizens in the coming hours. a number of european states have called on to refrain from traveling to israel, while in the south of the country