[000:00:48;00] let's look at what was said at valdai, or rather, to develop it , i don't want to waste time, today, we usually devote there to criticism of someone there, or so to speak, not criticism, but assessment of the statements

of individual... comparisons, for example, there is a phrase that sooner or later the principle, the tools for forming a different policy related to the position of the ruble in the market, they will have an impact, yes, well, that’s a good expectation, sooner or later, it means that it was said that two percent of our gdp growth - economics, when we talk about what was asked there the head of one of the financial departments, and what is happening with the ruble , well, yes, he says, but some need a higher price, others need a lower, lower price, and the main thing for us is stability and predictability, well, good words, only passing reality, but i once again, no, he didn’t say that he could provide them, he said that this is important for us, but he didn’t say that we have it, yes, so i would like to say that i’m not paying attention here these quotes, would like

to focus on another person's quotes, which... simple, it would seem, but for implementation it is clear, well, for example, one of them is that china, according to the nearest expectations, is growing by 6.4%, good dynamics, and india by 7.6, i would like ask, where are we, why are we looking at 2.5 % for them and saying, it’s because you have a boiling economy, it ’s bad, it’s very overheated, it’s very bad, we have 2 c2 overheated, maybe after all, well, let’s listen , what the president says, but we cannot always count only on what he will say, analyze, say that to do, and we will try to implement it, it is wrong when we say that the economy of high wages, why are we talking about this, because without the economy of high wages, it is impossible to achieve the solution to these problems, today we are talking not only about import substitution, import independence, that the country offers a completely different concept for economic development and not only for itself, but for its neighbors, colleagues there, participants in various associations, but let’s see

what the president said in relation to inflation, here we have inflation going on forever, and he mentioned that there was a period when our agriculture was not very progressively developed, but it turned out that during the period when we supported it, we formed the order and development institutions in a completely different way within the agricultural segment, it turned out that inflation did arise, but then it moved aside , now we have achieved food security , today income, as you know, from the sale of agricultural products on the world market, they are higher than sales from weapons, that is what we mean this says something... they confirm our words that inflation is an inevitable process, but it is controllable, and if production catches up and surpasses it, then there is no need to be afraid of inflation, you just need to control this process and counter inflation not by reducing production due to a high discount rate, on the contrary, an increase in production, here we move on to a very important topic, in my opinion, we talk a lot about china, in fact, china today and russia , for example, they have what’s happening today an experiment comparing the chinese

economic model and the russian economic model. but on our territory, as they say, there is a competition, such a competitive process, but firstly on our territory, and i repeat, and secondly, as if we have the advantage of our field, but it does not affect it yet, yes we have made colossal progress, we have industries where we have achieved annual growth of 20-25% , 50%, 60%, but the problem is that by increasing production and creating these kinds of figures, to achieve these kinds of figures, we we find that the share of russian... in the market valuation of this production is decreasing, because china is increasing the sale of industrial products by two to three times, two to three times more, which means that we still have to resist this, but we can perhaps we will somehow think about the fact that we must create our own economy, we did it, but at what cost did we do it? i will list these points, in my opinion they are very important, but returning to this competition, we must understand that this a competition with an end result for all

of us, but why can the chinese do this? but we have already said that russian production or a russian manufacturer, it is not a chinese manufacturer that is opposed to it, it is opposed by the chinese state , which supports... the chinese manufacturer, i repeat, once again, that this is due to the fact that the chinese manufacturer not only has cheap loans without collateral and so on, and the chinese state is pursuing an active industrial policy, which includes only support for writing off the credit mass there, but pekr, nir, that is, this is actually a huge injection of state support and support, i ’m not saying this about the export support of the manufacturers themselves, and we have with you that china can enter the market, not even dumping, but simply his products are of the same quality, comparable, but they are cheaper, why? and despite the fact that today the wages of chinese people employed in production are twice as high as those of russians, in 2005 it was the other way around,

but this happened here, so maybe we let’s make sure that our government will finally be freed from these shackles and will begin to finance its own economy using what it has been doing until now, and i would like to emphasize that what we warned about on your program happened today a real slowdown in the money supply in the economy, if we boasted and said that finally, well , the colossal growth is not comparable with previous periods, today we have confirmed data that the money supply has decreased, well, the question arises, maybe we will change, well, the central bank, well, listen, well, here you are again, we won’t take it, not me, no, we’ll supply the chinese to us for a short time , we’ll give ours to china, look, yes, look, mikhailovich, you see, the chubais sent them to israel for a short while, yes, and as dear khurma wrote, after all, folk wisdom works , where is chubais, there is a nightmare, i would like to say that what has to do with the tragedy of what is happening,

well, of course, discussing here, these people who predicted, yes, that russia is dangerous, we should go to israel, it’s calm there, there are great forecasters, chubas is right, everything was closed, no well, just by the way, i’ll express my point of view, if these... and change the laws, or once again throw up our hands and say that we can’t do anything, but we need to think about it now and analyze it, or initiate cases, analyzing who left and what they said. otherwise , the people here won’t understand; when they come back here, our people on the border will say, what can we do? there are no legal grounds not to let people in, but i looked here, armen sumbatyvich gosparyan, for example, wrote an appeal to the investigative

committee regarding kashin’s statement, the investigative committee said, no, everything is fine, kashino, everything is fine, well, with such a quality of examination, i think there will be questions all the time, so the political consequences, especially considering the upcoming elections, need to be thought about now and now, including for the duma concern ourselves with this topic and develop a system of measures so that we don’t let goats in here, and not just lambs, sorry, no, well, i just understand that these topics are relevant today, but they are probably related to the fact that how we treat and to the development of our own economy, that’s when i mentioned china, this is not in order to copy or compare something there, we are talking about what the president says: we need to maintain our leadership, relying on the figures that he cited in comparison between china and india, only for this , we have our own way, we have our own solutions, so , returning to these solution methods, i would like to say that they may object to us when we

give an example there, someone may say that these are not market methods, yes, not market ones, so oh, right off the tongue, of course, not market, but i believe that market is everything that allows our ... driver to win in market competition, and then everything else, everything else is a discussion that you don’t even need to succumb to, so saying that the president wants and what our government wants and what needs to be done, i would like to suggest , we say a lot, but look, didn’t we talk about the fact that the growth rate should be 8-10%, they said this is a good goal, for bill, well, it should be aimed at what raising the standard of living of our people, the tools are listed, let’s try to list them today, and the day after tomorrow we have with the leadership of the central bank, but let them try to either argue with reason or offer their own, i ’m sure they have one, let them choose a third, they simply won’t notice, let them say point by point what we need to do, no, don’t criticize what shouldn’t be done or

what needs to be done, we don’t have time, semenkavich said about the military sphere, we have there probably isn't much time for in order to prepare for something, you need to be ready today, and here in economics, you can’t waste time, and we repeat what the money supply, macroeconomic planning, preferably indicative, we are talking about we urgently need to launch production on a mass scale, all the infrastructure projects that our president spoke about by the way, that we will support ours - participation in infrastructure projects that relate to the european union, support what china is doing, there is one way, the silk road, all this infrastructure projects of colossal size, where the state is actually represented by an international order , i would like to say how we will fulfill such an international order at a rate of 13% ready, so i believe that our program can be implemented, we are waiting for response measures, i ’m thinking now over this question: after all, what is happening in israel

involuntarily poses a lot of questions to our so-called opposition, the first question is, they went there, received israeli passports, they will go to fight for their new homeland, not wait until they are called, but if you make such a choice in adulthood, and you are not yet 100 years old, it can hold a weapon in your hands. when this happened, and the grief is terrible for the israeli people, what happened, i just want it to be clear, we are a small people, and when 600 jews die in one day, well, if you scale this to the size of russia there, so that it would be it’s clear, there, well, there would be thousands of victims, but in one day, this is

a terrible tragedy for the way rubdanyan acted, who abandoned the russian, which in my opinion was a mistake, he took his son by the hand from england and went to die for karabakh, he is one of those who betrayed pashinyan, but he, as a man, made his choice. but here they are, all these galkins, slepakovs, they are very young guys, they will go to fight for israel, they are obliged according to the israeli constitution, this is not even for the category of obligation, it’s about internal understanding, it’s hardly internal , this is the internal or in fact all their talk about the new homeland, about israel, about the voice of blood, this is a lie, it will be... they have

will answer these questions, or now their fate will take them to lithuania, or where they will be accepted, to canada, to america, now just with an israeli passport without a visa to america, for example, citizen sobchak, he has an israeli passport, they showed him , but if they showed it was true, then she should probably show up at the recruiting station , both men and women serve in the israeli army, well, it would just be decent, it would be right, well, yes, then these people would have won at least some self-respect, that would be right, because patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel, patriotism is love for the homeland, well, let them show their love for israel, because they said that israel is their homeland, well, this is just reasoning out loud, tovarishleyt, well, i... naturally, in my own way, so

to speak, about my beloved, the president, on - baldai made, from my point of view, three very important statements about nuclear weapons , about the nuclear topic in general, the first, of course, is a treaty on a general ban on nuclear tests, the president very carefully said that we could do this say, look and also go to revoke the ratification, because the americans, we, ratified this treaty in 2000 , clinton submitted it for consideration once, was refused, so to speak, obama talked a lot about it, but never introduced it, and trump actually said, and we won’t contribute anything, biden muttered something that we will be committed, but on monday, our state duma will already consider the issue of revoking ratification, will it really revoke it, i think they will revoke it, it’s another matter when

they sign... this what is needed in this matter stop, but what i want to say is that for some reason we have a lot of comments that we do not conduct nuclear tests because we are bound by the provisions of the treaty, i want to say that this is not so, the treaty has not entered into force, it exists, it was signed, but it did not come into force, why? this is what andrei told us on that program, to which i explained that it did not come into force as an international legal instrument, but we followed all the necessary procedures. within the country, yes, but that’s not the point , we, there is annex two to the treaty, which lists 44 countries, which either possess nuclear weapons or have the potential to produce nuclear weapons, so the conditions for the entry into force of the treaty are that all these 44 countries listed in

appendix two must ratify this treaty, but eight countries from this appendix have not ratified, three have not signed, these are india, pakistan and the democratic people's republic of korea, and five countries have signed but not ratified, these are the united states, china, iran, egypt and israel, the prospect that they so to speak, ratified, in fact, from my point of view, the minimum, as of today , signed by 187, ratified by 178 states, but nevertheless, the treaty, it has all... attributes, the secretariat is located in vienna, it operates, very decent, so to speak such a bureaucratic apparatus, there is a system for monitoring nuclear tests, this is a network of seismic , that is, defato it operates, yes, it operates, radionuclide, infrasound and

hydroacoustic stations, plus 16 certified radionuclide laboratories, 137 facilities around the world, on territory of russia, 32 objects of this system, which, so to speak, function, transmit information to vienna, well, as far as i remember from my previous service, all this comes from vienna, so to speak, directly from washington, they, so to speak, are mostly american specialists there , so all this information is duplicated to the americans, by the way, this system was created mainly with american money, so if we want to say so, just demonstrate our displeasure to world public opinion, yes, we will revoke the ratification and then we need suspend the system, the work of the monitoring system

on the territory of the russian federation, they are still operating, they are operating, yes, they are working, everything is in working condition, it is maintained very our 12 dear go, dear, of course, on... the heads are very, so to speak, carefully executed all obligations of the russian federation under this system. now the second point, this is the president’s answer to sergei aleksanovich karaganov’s question, well, everyone knows karaganov’s position that nuclear deterrence does not work, the americans have lost fear, it is necessary so to speak, to demonstrate our determination to launch a nuclear strike on the territory of some country. sergei aleksanovich does not have such a position, he never said that it was necessary to strike, he drew a ladder, an escalation of twenty points, and says that it is necessary to escalate competently so that there is fear, he did not directly say anywhere, let’s all do it together let’s get together and beat the hell out of the whitewash, as zhirinovsky said, well, georgia is not yet

a nato country, that is, no, karaganov has a literal phrase “let’s strike at side of nato, i was a little rude, but strongly, he will be upset." well, in any case, the idea is this: andrei calls immediately on washington with strategic weapons on london ; the president’s answer, in my opinion, is obvious, he said two cases, the first case, if against weapons of mass destruction will be used against us, our allies, the second time, if aggression with conventional ... weapons is carried out against us, without allies, but which will threaten the existence of our entire state, there is no such threat, the president said, now, now, yes, so, so to speak, to go further along the escalation ladder, he doesn’t see the point, and the third thing that lieutenant general said, putin

didn’t say that, at all, he didn’t say that it’s not necessary go along the line of escalation, because after that he talked about, there is no need to change... but why, because the wording, here is the second one, as it came from the president’s lips, it sounds like there is no need to use the word preventive, but if we count, what is this threat to our statehood, and what is this threat? it's not just nuclear hit? no, but that’s for him, no, and it doesn’t say in the second case that if we are attacked using conventional weapons, but as a result of this attack the very existence of the russian state will be jeopardized, putin said right away, so he didn’t say that if we are attacked, he said that if there is a threat to our existence, and this could be biological weapons, maybe ... cyber weapons, maybe any, there

are, i quote, again, no, no, no, again, this is your quotation of the document, and i’m saying what putin said to valdai, vladimir , he didn’t specify, he even said that if it happens, what will putin consider, it was his decision, his decision, what putin will consider as a threat, that's already it. another, so it could be what we call preventive, so i consider it as a threat, i strike, not an attack, but a threat, yes, i ’m talking about a threat, and the third thing the president said is about our nuclear weapons, well, he mentioned that we have armat goes on combat duty and has successfully tested our, our cruise missile with a nuclear power plant , the burevestnik, which... has, so to speak , an unlimited flight range and, so to speak, which is not afraid of

any air defense system, this is true, now about our nuclear forces, we also have some misconception, for some reason many experts say that we have completed the modernization of our triad, but the americans have not yet, this is not at all true, because if we take this scale, the americans they find... at the beginning of the journey, and we have gone halfway this way, because, if you take the americans, for example, their basis is the naval forces, their base is boats of the agai class with the tridents, they have been in service since 1987, will remain in service until 2042, from 1931 they will change to boats of the new generation class: columbia, and for the land component of the american triad,

they now have 3 will change to boats from 1931 and air b-21 ryder they will change their b2 and b52, but the timing has not yet been specified, because the plane is still, so to speak, well, probably in the testing stage, but it doesn’t write about this that we have... we have the modernization process going on much more successfully and more so to speak at a rapid pace, our basis is the ground components, the format, as the president said in valdai, will go on combat duty next year, we now have a little excess, so to speak, there are only seven types of our intercontinental ballistic missiles, there will be most likely there will be three, it will be - the armat is a heavy rocket and the yars in the silo is three types, and the yars, that is, there will be no poplars, no

governors, no steles, for e boats, but the americans expect 12 columbia class boats, we have three so far like, there will be boats armed with strategic ballistic missiles, which will then be replaced... do they have 12 pieces or 12 types? no, 12 pieces, that’s right, but we have three types, we have three types, but there will be one, we will have 14 boats, there will be 14, that is, they compared the non-green one with the long one in terms of the aviation component we have there will be, the tu-160 is being modernized to the t-160 m2, there will be 50-60 of them, they will replace both the 160, that is, we, uh, so to speak, the modernization of our triad is proceeding at a faster pace, and

we are somewhere here in the middle of the road, so the president correctly said that any sane person should think 10 times before - and where to find a sane person, well, after all, not everything is biden or what, he’s hanging out, not everyone there is idiots, in any case , excuse me, now i’m already with this, salevan, he generally gives the impression that he’s not a complete idiot, so well, if you compare it with blinkin, yes, he is a skinny idiot, but nothing fundamentally changes, that is, well, in the middle east they have already been idiotic, well, they have been the most idiotic, but still the russian federation is a little more significant than even the middle east, despite , i agree with these, they are sure that we will not use nuclear weapons in what scenario? so he said that let him say so, and in my opinion this signal was received correctly in the west, that what are we going to do with the governor with everything else,

well, the governor is a ukrainian missile yuzhmashevskaya, let's return it to its homeland, soviet, ukrainian, no, i'm not against it, but then you can send it, send it to your homeland, you can , well, remove the nuclear warhead, load a regular one and send it back, it has been serviced for the last 20 years, i'm not talking about that , we can shoot it back, well, in principle, we can, of course, we can, no, well, you know, there are megaton, megaton-class warheads, what are you talking about, no, no, the warheads can be removed as nuclear, but just with pigs, well, pigs, well, pigs can be , of course, well, now we can imagine, and why fantasize, but this cheaper than disposing of it in another way, we can, we can launch a satellite, when the divisions were reduced, they were sent directly under their own power to kamchatka, we disposed of the launch, disposed of using the launch method, yes, i propose to dispose of it using the launch method, well

, of course, well, that is, not in kamchatka , but for... why in kamchatka, god forbid, about the nazi infrastructure , warn in advance, but this is the airfield from which they are going to launch, f16, there, let it be, let it be, along bridges, along passages, through factories, through ports , yes, that is, you are for it, i am for it. investment rating, economics, through specific stories , we can reach people, we often talk about money, the amounts are serious, in russia there is a clear and clear signal, at what point will you say, that’s it, i did everything i could in this project , i will never say whether russian industry is capable of replacing foreign suppliers, it is necessary

to mobilize all resources, give me a recipe, in general, how can you achieve what you have achieved? it seems to you that you are on top of the world, got up, dusted yourself off, is russia ready to change, in any structure,

a revolution is happening. why are you pestering me, what do you want? every time i worry when he leaves, but they say goodbye, he didn’t promise, the lord of

the wind. margarita simovna shared her emotions after valdai, and i would like to share some conceptual conclusions from what happened there, it was an extraordinary valdai, absolutely, it was a turning point, i’ll try to formulate why? firstly, for the first time, as far as i remember, the conversation shifted from the analysis of what... comes from this world, to the analysis of how we will this world to rebuild further, this is absolutely fundamental, and especially since the president voiced six points, how we see our role, and how we see our country, civilization, in the future world, how we will work with