[000:00:00;00] industries can be divided into two groups: the first group is waste that is generated during the dismantling or reconstruction of structures or site objects, here, of course , first of all, probably you all see and know, this is the reuse of asphalt crumbs in the construction of asphalt concrete road surfaces, this is really very important here and it is very economically profitable, from the point of view of technology implementation, concrete products are very actively used, which can be used after crushing as foundations, not only for roads or the use of foundations, but also for the foundation of even runways. this is indeed already technologically used, applied and

confirmed by scientific work that was once carried out by the ministry of construction. the second group , in my opinion, is even more interesting, probably less studied, these are ash and slag materials that are formed during the combustion of not only solid fuels heat or power generation facilities, but also materials that appear during the combustion of solid household waste waste in waste incineration plants, back in 2016, the ministry of construction held a competition for the title of the best implemented project... of energy saving in the construction of economy-class housing, and the winner was a house built in the svertlovsk region, the village of revtinsky, in the construction of which 1,500 tons were used - halls, that is, good, well, the residents know about it, yes, of course, of course, and they are certainly proud of it, because this was probably such a breakthrough at one time, when it was possible

to do this, i also want to say that constantly work is underway to study just these materials, in the case where construction materials are produced from the hall , which are obtained during the combustion of solid household waste, which can be classified as municipal waste, including, of course, here, for sure, those products that we buy everything in stores, it’s already getting a third life, it didn’t just serve as fuel for heating, for example, some... building, yes, but it has already grown into building materials that will serve for many years, thank you, well now we already it is clear that this is an industry that should develop quite rapidly, should be attractive to investors, so government money goes there, as viktor valerevna says, and goes in a tight

formation. this is wonderful, but the banking sector is curious how interesting this issue is, including the new extended producer responsibility rules, i ’m almost 100% sure that since there are new rules, then accordingly we need new financial instruments, that is, we except green bonds should probably be seen cyclically closed or closed cyclical or some kind of new tools related precisely to being able to attract investments in this area, respectively, a question for you. thank you very much, respect victoria valerievna, dear colleagues, first of all, welcome to sber university , we are glad to see everyone, this is already becoming a traditional event for us, we hope that for many years we will meet here around this time, welcome, concerns the interests of banks, the short answer is yes interesting and a few numbers that we can already say, now we have already invested 57, well, as sberbank we have invested 57 billion rubles in

projects in the regions until the twenty-fifth year, we see a pipeline of about 200 billion rubles, plus another plus in 50 regions and until the thirtieth year we think that most of the regions of russia will be covered by these projects, and the total amount is about 500-550 billion rubles additionally, that is, this is a lot of money, and we certainly welcome the topic of ropa, which is being discussed, it made it possible to simply do, it is possible to do this. well, that is, without this, without this initiative, well, there would simply be no point in these projects, they simply would not exist, and for only government money, we would be making these changes for a very, very long time, and this is a separate, large, complex topic , so yes, banks are interested in this, here we are actively working with reo, and i remember the nineteenth year in the name of denis petrovich and i signed an agreement that we would study what a robe is, the best world practices, and not

only from.. .studied, but also thanks to victoria varelvno and denis petrovich, the entire federation council and the state duma, we received very good legislation, in my opinion, this is just the beginning, as victoria valerievna voiced. 8 billion, i heard correctly, yes 8 billion total, the total volume of waste, this is actually, except , of course, this is a huge, huge impact on the environment, but this is still a possible good business opportunity, no matter how it sounds, but nevertheless no less, if there is an opportunity to earn money, you know, the earnings here are extremely average, i want to say, because that here we are reo very much, all the supply banks are pressing hard, you definitely won’t make money on them, but here it’s rather our responsibility, and we are just proud that we are doing these projects together, just before the start of the session with denis

petrovich here we discussed a number of issues in the regions, what problems there are, because obviously they always exist, but we always find a solution and this is quite interesting, but besides, we talk about money, like a bank always but sber is not only a bank, we also an it company, in this in terms of plan, reo and i entered into another interesting agreement, victoria valerievna said about landfills, but she is talking about huge landfills, of course, such landfills that are measured in tens, hundreds, probably, or thousands of hectares, which are already being fought at the vice level -premiere, but in fact the dump, as we know much more, they are often just some kind of littered spots and so on, and we entered into an agreement where... with the help of drones, strictly speaking, aerial photography, you can distinguish where there are a landfill where there is no, it is important to stop what is happening in time, and we are doing this together, we are doing it with reo, and in parallel we have activity with the sakhalin region, sakhalin is one of the leaders in

the implementation of artificial intelligence, they are also watching these landfills, where they use not only drones, but aerial photography, in general this is such an interesting topic, in principle, maybe the federal service for surveillance on natural resources and natural resources will also be interested in this, so we... according to statistics that can be found in open sources, polyethylene bags are processed by about 10%, look at what potential there is, yes , we’re talking about 8 billion, it’s clear why sibur holdin has such an increased interest in polymers, pavel nikolaevich, that’s what you say about extended producer responsibility. circular economy, well, what technological know-how does russia have in order to move confidently forward along this path, yes

, thank you, we started with packages, as usual, we absolutely support it, the right and long -awaited topic, and i really join in the words of gratitude, which have already been said today, because - the topic will allow us to naturally structure waste management, and adding economic incentives there will allow us to obtain additional raw materials in order to involve them in recycling, i will now also talk about this, so with both hands for, from january 1, when this extended producer responsibility begins to take effect, we are waiting, well, what is called impatiently, now many of our consumers are preparing for this and we feel it, we feel it ourselves, because one one of our projects , which we put into operation in the twenty-second year,

is a project to involve secondary pet, a plastic bottle in common people, into its new life, when we involve those who produce primary gran into our production. already collected, processed secondary granules, this happens in blagoveshchensk, in bashkaratstan, so we are able to process about a billion 700 empty plastic bottles per year and produce, i repeat once again , a second life, a new complex granule, where there is also primary secondary granulate, under we’ve even created this business, it’s called an innovative brandlen, and you’re probably already familiar with it, some of the... products, so we are a partner of the forum’s business program and some of the water that is presented here is actually bottled from such a branded polyeleta, this is what we did

in the twenty-second year, we launched production , now it is working, responsible consumers accept it, order it and are ready to expand the consumption of such granules. that's why we go here in general in the mainstream just as probably the tasks that were discussed here absolutely resonate with our strategy, they are included in the strategy that we adopted several years ago, this is a five-year strategy, and there, in general, the entire agenda is outlined, but if we talk today only about the environmental part, then this is a reduction in the environmental impact of our existing enterprises over the years, not after the development of several years there, but for years we have been doing this, these are modern ones, including smokeless fakkeva, water reduction by

consumption, as well as increased obligations for water treatment, we purify water to standards , better than required by law, reduction, reduction of waste as such in production, we have had this for quite a long time, what has appeared recently is the story of recycling, about one project i told is already in effect, we are also currently working with partners, involving recycled polypropylene and polyethylene. and a polister in such a life, here we are, what’s important, uh, here victoria valerievna spoke about engineering centers, we also have a history related to the discovery of new technologies, we see them in terms of thermolysis and chemolysis, when unseparated plastic waste can be processed into primary raw materials and again involved in a second life.

we are seriously working on this and next year we will probably talk about this at the investment committee, this will greatly help in the recovery of polymer waste, because not only mechanical, but also chemical thermal processing will make it possible to deal with complex waste, here is another one subject, also, one of the tasks that victoria valerievna outlined is environmental education, the perception of a different agenda, we are working a lot on this. you probably know about our long-standing projects with the basketball league, with the russian football union on separate waste collection, our projects for years with the moscow and kazan marathon on separate waste collection, our eco-houses in tyumen in perm, where we show the entire chain of waste generation, recycling to produce new products, our

educational programs and books that we we are releasing - for this purpose, our joint with uh, partners - topics on the involvement, collection, involvement and further use of secondary life polymers, there are actually a lot of them , and of course you can’t talk about them in 5 minutes, that’s why, from my point of view, a lot is already being done, you can whether to do more, i'm sure that yes, and the question that you started rob, i'm sure that it will push us all, us the community that produces, processes, uses polymers to ensure that these technologies appear, faster, we are absolutely here, as i understand from the report victoria valerievna, we are in the mainstream, thank you, nikolaevich, thank you, well, regarding the separate collection of garbage, i would like to make such a small note about the apartment, yes, that’s one thing... it seems that we have created

opportunities for 80 million man, if i’m not mistaken, they were doing this, but opportunities are one thing , who uses it is another matter, here too there is a wide front of work ahead, as i understand it , the theme was sounded, but the carrot-and-stick, it is, in general, absolutely applicable everywhere, no, well, thank god there is technology and people who are on earth they work, as they say, well, on garbage, let’s say, too... without them, we probably would hardly be able to understand how effectively the entire system operates, but the eco group is recommended as one of the advanced participants in this process, so i want to ask evgeniy fedovich question: how does the real sector see the current situation and its possible prospects? colleagues, good afternoon, evgeny mikhailov, ilain group, i have been saying for three years now that reform

of the waste management industry is probably the most successful reform from the point of view implementation of some normative documents, building a system of, let’s say, priorities, that is, it really stands, as they say, from the foundation and upward, all those incidents that happen one way or another in various regions related to the aggravation of the environmental agenda, so sorting it out with colleagues, we understand that this is 100% of both performers and controllers, it is either , let’s say, indifference, plus incompetence, or in fact some kind of, let ’s say, set of these facts, from the point of view of normative... things , everything works, everything it perfectly allows us, uh, to look there , ahead, and what happened, in fact, so far, here is alexander alexandrovich, this year we entered into a strategic partnership with such a bank, we became

a client of sber, and indeed, a big thank you, the sbera team has come a long way over the past 3 years in terms of understanding what a waste management business is in general, 3 years ago, even... i had this picture of such a huge everest, and how did we investments of 1 billion rubles, they raised the savings bank inside, raised to the alpha committee, in fact, because they could not make a decision on the topic of whether to finance or not finance the project , over these 3 years it was huge, and with great joy we moved to sberbank and indeed we have a huge number of plans there that were fundamentally applied , in fact, without petrovich, without without ppk reo... there would not have been, we would not now be discussing the situation related to sufficient, insufficient surplus capacity, banks have not financed the industry all this time, if in fact there would not have been a mechanism for preferential lending and those risks that ppk ro took upon itself, because i imagine these are risks of sufficiency, capital and sufficiency

of guarantees and, in fact, the quality of design and there are problems in the regions with land, with communications, with i don’t know with everything... the whole spectrum, if these risks, in fact, if the ppp behaved like a bank, we would still be discussing individual projects there, and not the number of agreements that were, and of course, the last year, this is our kind hope, because this is important to us, and we, i heard numbers there, like 113 million, 57 million in sberbank, we invested in processing , 57 billion, since 2018 37 billion in processing into the economy. in this regard , we are probably a company that bears huge risks in terms of repayment , we are interested in the system working, and we work in a territory where 7 million, 7 million people now live,

we have more than 50,000 legal entities, we collect 4 million tons of waste and we would not have created this without that legal model, without that financial the help that... we received, it’s true, so thank you very much to everyone, and well, taking this opportunity, i have a number of questions, so we have already begun to discuss, first, we have 100% or there are 95%, but the fact that people , and what people are dissatisfied with is the odors, this is organic matter, and this is actually a consequence of the fact that organic matter not within the processing process is now not 100% processed in all regions - let’s say, and is not separated from the rest of the waste stream, here in moscow region we have this standard from the very beginning, the moscow region was the first, she made it a standard, all waste processing complexes are required to have organics, then there is the question of control, well , there must be a selection of organics, from this organics a techno-soil must be made, which has completely different

parameters, in terms of organoleptics, which does not irritate people, in this regard the first request is big, we believe that this standard should become federal. there cannot be a waste processing complex , not built, not coordinated, without the fact that there is no - composting working with taking into account climatic zones, again, we don’t, let’s say, quite a few territories where the temperature is above zero there 30-65 days a year, but this is important, without this it won’t happen, because up to 40% of us, if we say about cities, about large cities, up to 40% is organic and this... this is an important part, we immediately, without this we will never achieve the goals of the national project and will never be able to actually achieve 50%. and if we say here we are, it seems to me that we should immediately say that the answer is yes, let’s do it this way, denis petrovich, you and i always say that state support should be only for the most effective projects that are based on the best technologies, and these are certainly

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