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[000:00:00;00] varosi, our name says it all, we are talking about the territory that has returned to its historical roots, about novorossiya, with the help of a careful look at history we will try to reveal the originality of its present day, find typical features and recognizable signs of the past, that’s what we’ll talk about today . a high degree of trust in corrupt officials, paradoxes of public consciousness in ukraine, what is in their heads, a conversation with a program expert, sisters of mercy, the return of noble traditions. speaking about novorossiya, we cannot miss mind and events in ukraine, especially if they
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in one way or another... influence the future of the region. today we will try to analyze what has happened to public consciousness in ukraine over the past year. despite the massive internal migration, millions of ukrainian citizens leaving abroad, hundreds of thousands of people in the combat zone who cannot be interviewed, despite the absence of opposition and only one information channel on the air. despite all this, ukrainian sociologists continue to conduct surveys. according to them, vladimir zelensky retains just over 80% personal trust or approval of its activities, depending on the wording. the majority, over 56 respondents, finally decided on ideology. almost
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19% of respondents consider themselves nationalists. in 2021 there were no more than 4%. ukrainian society today largely lives in illusions. the biggest of them is the possibility of returning to ukraine the territories of novorossiya, which have become an integral part of russia. we are talking about crimea, donetsk and lugansk people's republics, zaporozhye and kherson areas. according to a survey by the kiev international institute of sociology in june 2023, 83.5% of ukrainians believe that victory for ukraine is possible only if all territories within the borders of the ninety-first year are returned, and all this against the backdrop of the absence of any successes in the months-long ukrainian contour offensive, on against the backdrop of major losses in the army of the ukrainian armed forces and the permanent
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mobilization campaign. extending to people with medical contraindications, to women. today in the ukrainian army there are more and more those who do not understands why they have to die at the front, when in the rear they are only removing, and not imprisoning, the minister of defense because of multimillion-dollar corruption. true, judging by the results of the surveys, in the minds of those surveyed, some realities are still beginning to appear, albeit in very bizarre forms. according to a survey conducted by the democratic initiatives foundation, together with the kiev international institute of sociology, in july 2023, 78% of ukrainians believe that president zelsky is directly responsible for corruption in the government and military administrations. not only 18%
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of respondents agree with this statement. paradox. 83% of respondents approve of zelsky’s activities, almost the same number consider him responsible for corruption in the country, for the wrongdoing for which military commissars are imprisoned and ministers are fired. only since the beginning of this year, failure in foreign policy has prevented ukraine from joining either nato or the eu, neither in the near nor in the distant future. relations with western partners are deteriorating. there are not enough fighters for the armed forces, they are almost going to be caught abroad, how does all this affect public consciousness of ukraine, version of our author, anna efimova. the center of kiev, the end of august, the maidan is again full of people, wives, mothers, sisters are demanding to return their relatives
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home. ukrainian flags, appeals to authorities. photographs of ukrainian armed forces fighters, despite the obvious crowd, the local media ignores such actions, and systematically. the number of missing ukrainian armed forces soldiers numbers in the tens of thousands, but the office of the ukrainian president prefers not to know about their fate, so that in the event of death they do not have to pay multimillion-dollar compensation to their families. between however, anti-war sentiment is growing not only in kiev, but also in dozens of other cities, odessa, zhitomir, and even in the western regions of ukraine, traditionally considered the most trustworthy from an ideological point of view. zelsky's team expressed concern about this. there are more and more people who are in favor of negotiations with russia; this is a very dangerous trend when people from western ukraine start talking about such things. however, conversations do not arise out of nowhere; the general mobilization of optimism certainly does not add to its
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there is no doubt about the mass character. a lot of videos have circulated on the internet where disabled people are recognized as fit for military service, who, logically, should not even need certificates, everything is visible without paperwork. well , just take a walk and marvel. this is a warrior, this is a warrior, according to the latest research by the ukrainian rating group, the number of those who believe that the state is successfully fulfilling its obligations to veterans continues to decrease, in august 2022 there were 69%, in january 2023 53%, in september only 33 %, and such inconvenient and alarming figures for the ukrainian administration are only becoming more numerous.
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why are disabled people there ? concerns most people in one way or another, and it is clear that the situation is ambiguous and, moreover, that it is getting worse for the kiev authorities. on this background, kiev continues to outwardly live a peaceful life, warm autumn weather, crowds of people walking along the boulevards, however, everything is the same as in moscow or other large cities of russia with only one difference: all the resources of ukraine, and the main one - the human resource - are almost completely exhausted. and to the last, ukrainians remember the war, including the flags that they place in the ground on the maidan in memory of the dead . kievans, the air of the ukrainian capital seems to breathe addiction, by the way, today is such a beautiful day that you can go for a ride on a convertible, whoever has it, so people don’t deny themselves anything, it’s not something
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that is changing towards pro-russian or there, they remain anti-russian in general, the mood in society, but the attitude towards ilithi, yes, it is changing, yes, there is addiction, both to good and to bad, it comes very quickly in society, but now... i think that many things are being revised. the latest figures indicate the following: the majority of local residents, given the possible approach of hostilities to their cities, will simply continue to live your ordinary life. only 6% of kharkov residents, 8% of odessa and zaporozhian residents, 12% of kiev residents and no more than 15% of lvov residents expressed their readiness to take up arms and beat muscovites. it's been 4 months now that contouring has been going on. according to the latest data, it turns out that the russians even occupied a little more territory than salareich conquered, suddenly, naturally, people who had such high expectations
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began to understand something, and especially the tendencies towards enlightenment intensified when all sorts of european partners began to show fatigue from ukrainians. so, amid the scandal with the export of ukrainian agricultural products, which caused damage to european farmers , polish president andrzej duda, who had recently embraced zelski in the verkhovna rada, suddenly began to compare ukraine with a drowning man, dragging his rescuers to the bottom, that his country would no longer provide support ukraine - said hungarian political leader viktor orban. moreover, for the first time, the united states approved a draft budget for 45 days, which did not include assistance to ukraine at all. zelsky in this case, it’s simple an actor who was appointed to the post of president of ukraine, and who, having ascended to this position without being an elitist , tries to behave the way it seemed to him that the elite should behave; in fact, as a result
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of this, zelensky created a package of mistakes, which, if he leaves positions, today he already understands this, will lead to his exact , namely economic liquidation, quite possibly their physical liquidation, that is , if you pay attention to all the past elites of ukraine, they never led to a categorical conflict. it's amazing that with all this, the rating of the president of the world. how vladimir zelsky initially positioned himself in the elections remains at a fairly high level, and the overwhelming number of ukrainians believe that their country will even develop in the next 5 years, but it seems that people are more likely to say what they want to hear from them, if you start now conduct surveys , then you will receive answers, we will fight to the end, which means we will hold a parade on red square, and at the same time, every person who gives
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an interview will... look back at the someone who is standing next to you, who is passing by, because denunciation is more developed than ever, it is encouraged, as far as they report to me from the ground, they still believe in something, only truly insane victims of the single tv channel, which is now shown in salorehi , everyone else is little by little thinking about how to crawl away from all this, well, the paradox... is that in a situation where no one really wants war, hostilities continue, and any search for peace is based on the political level turn into another profanation, but russia learned the lessons of minsk-1 and minsk-2 well. anna efimova, valery savelev, anastasia popova, typical new russia. awareness in ukraine, and how this may affect the course of a special military
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operation and the fate of novorossia as a whole, we will talk with our regular expert, historian and political scientist, rostislav ishchenko. rostislav, good afternoon, good afternoon, rostislav, what do you think, has public consciousness, public opinion in ukraine changed somehow today compared to the twentieth, twenty-first, at the beginning of the twenty-second year, every day, every week there, socially changes a little.
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the majority, well, at the moment they can’t, yes, this means that trust in him personally has decreased , that is, yes, he is still one of the highest-rated politicians in ukraine, but this is no longer the same rating that he had, say, in the nineteenth year, now there is another trend, and in europe they suddenly noticed the presence of nazism in ukraine and even quite calmly equated bendery with nazism, but the fact is that this information does not fully reach ukrainians in ukraine. they have distorted information about what is happening in the world, therefore, something that could become a serious shock for them, again contribute to a change in their attitude towards europe in general, towards the continuation of hostilities in particular, they simply do not know about it now, a huge number of ukrainians, 80% of those surveyed, believe that zelsky is responsible for the enormous corruption that has flourished there in the sphere of the ministry of defense, on the other hand, he still has a very high trust rating for... how does that fit in
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people's minds? well, first of all, you need to understand that whoever orders surveys gets the result; in ukraine, even before, it was possible to get one, for the same politician, in two surveys that were conducted at the request of different political forces, diametrically opposed results with with a spread of 15-20%. so zelsky’s rating is over 80, i think it’s somewhat out of line with reality, but i repeat, her rating is really high, and it still remains. here it is all these contradictions are explained very simply: it is very difficult for a person to give up his basic beliefs, just as it is difficult for them to give up the basic belief that banderaism is good, this is democracy, this is europe, we must fight for it , in my opinion, 19% of ukrainians today called themselves nationalists, although just 2-3 years ago, there were no more than 5% in this category, but that’s it. why are we for a national
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power, yes, that means we are nationalists, the russians are against them, they are against nationalists, that means we are nationalists, we are fighting against the russians for our national power, this is the usual logic of confrontation, so to speak, that works in them, then they will change circumstances, they will again become internationalists, that is, at the same time they will not change internally at all, this is purely external identification, and the same thing happens with the attitude towards zelensky, that is, yes, he is a corrupt man, he is a thief, yes... but he is our thief, he is our supreme commander in chief, we are fighting, so we support him when the war will end, there will be victory, general joy, then we will find out who is the odds, who is the corruption? there and so on, but for now we need to unite and fight. with the understanding of victory, it seems to me that not everything is going smoothly in ukraine either, a huge number of experts, especially against the backdrop of a failed counter-offensive, are saying that the idea of ​​​​returning all the territories within the borders of the ninety-first year is no longer feasible, that
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is, it is impossible to return the territories of novorussia, ukrainian experts say, and yet, people interviewed in ukraine believe that victory will come only when it is possible to talk about the return of all the territories of new russia to ukraine. here's how to explain this paradox, and how does this threaten new russia, how will it affect its fate? well, let's start from the end, novorusia - this does not threaten anything, because, well, at least that part of novorusia, which is already part of russia, because it is clear that russia cannot suffer defeat in the war, its territory, in fact it is just won't give it to anyone. that's why. wish, dream, believe, possible as much as you like, yes, but reality, sooner or later, will become simply a tangible fact, this is what will happen at this moment with the consciousness of those very people in ukraine who believe that they are still capable, not not them, but in general, so to speak,
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ukrainian troops are capable of regaining the territory of new russia, although none of the ukrainian serious experts, including the military , speaks about this anymore or even dreams, something terrible will happen, it will happen... approximately what happened to the public consciousness of germany in the twenties years, they will start looking enemy traitor, allies, of course, europe, the united states all betrayed ukraine, because they wanted to trade with russia, so ukraine interfered with them, so they decided to betray it, anyone could be a traitor, and the hungarians, which means they do not support ukraine’s accession in nato, the poles who do not like bandera, but should love there, further, there will be many enemies , maybe in certain sections of society everyone will have their own enemy, then it will begin: gradually awareness, this is a very long process, and if this process is not fueled from the outside, if you don’t help him, then the process of realizing the normal situation , yes, it can stretch out for a century and can again return society and the state to the next military-political crises, if not into an external war, then into an internal,
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civil war, therefore by the way , i always believe that a military operation is only a visible small part of the iceberg. the most important thing is then to work with the ukrainian public consciousness or those people who will remain in the territories attached to the russian federation and who will have to be very for a long time in several generations to bring to life in two or three generations, that means, before they become the same people as everyone around them. it seems to me that this is a very difficult prospect for ukrainian society, since in the 21st century , in the century of enormous speeds of large flows of information, there is no longer much time for reflection and knowledge of one’s own situation, and it seems to me that ukrainian society is tragic. thank you very much for an interesting and informative conversation. sister, give me some water. for the first time this phrase became routine in hospitals during the crimean
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war of 1853-56. it was then that the sisters of mercy began to care for the wounded. the first to go to the theater of hostilities in novorossiya was the englishwoman florence nigel; on the russian side , the sisters of the holy cross community, founded by grand duchess elena pavlovna, carried out a noble mission in the active army. their work and medical training were organized by the famous doctor, founder of field surgery, nikolai pirogov. this female medical formation later became the prototype between. popular movement of the red cross. during that war, a new social institution, the sisters of mercy, was formed. in 1863, an order was issued by the minister of war of the russian empire, introducing permanent nursing care for patients in military
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hospitals. sisters of mercy were trained by various organizations, primarily sister communities. associations that are secular in spirit and charitable in essence. the sisters in the crimean war showed how important women's participation was for the wounded. women's hands caused less harm, a woman's heart is more sensitive to the hardships of those who became helpless soldiers. they could do what experienced orderlies often could not give. the sisters were driven not only by duty, but also by compassion. pirogov wrote about them this way: “with the fact that he supervised their blessed activities. today, a nurse is one of many medical professions. and yet, in novorusia they began to revive.
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olga mokhova will tell you why. a black dress, a white scarf, an apron with with a red cross. after the crimean war, they went through the russian-turkish and russian-japanese wars. and if in the time of nikolai pirogov there were only sisters of mercy about 150, then by the end of the first world war, there were already more than 20,000 of them on the front line. you had to be of a certain age. from an average of twenty to 40 years old there should have been a girl or woman, she should not have a family, she should have been trained in the community, but ideally the courses lasted 2 years, if she successfully passed the exam, she would already receive the honorary title of sister mercy, in the soviet years the spiritual, christian component of sisterhood was replaced by an emphasis on professional training, so the sisters mercy became medical already on the fronts of the great patriotic war... about 200,000 nurses were carried out from the battlefield and nursed the wounded. in difficult periods in the life of society, when there are not enough hands to do the basics, wash,
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change clothes, feed, the need for mercy invariably increases. a sister of mercy is a believer; it is my personal deep conviction that a sister of mercy is the person who brings god closer to this suffering person. ability to move, not to trim during hygiene, to be able to feed. do not consider that this is somehow very, very unprestigious, communication is very important, because from communication a fighter or a wounded or sick person, you can generally get him out of the bottom of despair, from may 2022 in the moscow hospital of st. alexei of the moscow patriarchate of the russian orthodox churches take courses on the professional training of junior medical staff in caring for the sick, graduates who have passed certification, they are called professors of nursing, go as volunteers to the donbass, care for the wounded and seriously... ill or remain help in moscow hospitals. well, what to hide, there are wounded and they need help, and of course, now there is a special need for
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this, that they are taking the burden off the nursing staff, who are not enough, not enough in the donbass, taking into account that now there is a great need to prepare people as quickly as possible to help the wounded, we have now shortened these courses to two weeks, but they are intensive, the course is almost every day, they include a theoretical part and, most importantly, a practical one. there are already more than 800 people, of different professions, ages, religions, have completed such courses, but not all remain to help the suffering, it’s good if 40 percent, admits alexey zarov, just like not all of the graduates are sisters of mercy, because the cross on the consecrated white dress, the promise to serve and the blessing of the bishop, is the result of a conscious choice of a christian . once upon a time we come to church with all our requests, we say: lord, give, lord, help, so we ask for ourselves or for ours. loved ones, but someday there comes such a period, such christian maturation,
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when a person already says, lord, what can i do to you, here is sisterhood - this is exactly this, this is the answer, when we can serve our neighbor, and reading the gospel, where the lord says that you helped one of these little ones, you helped me , on a rotational basis, every week in hospitals in five cities of donbass , volunteer sisters of mercy depart from here to care for those who especially need it. on the road, moscow specialists have already conducted about twenty courses, after which in gorlovka, berdyansk and novoaydar, with the support of the clergy, formed their own sisterhoods. we go, we help people in surgery, in therapy and neurology, we also help people, we have patronage care, we look after people who are at home, also immobile, so we help such people, we come to the sisters of charity of the volunteer community of sisterhood at the epiphany cathedral gorlovka parishioners of local churches, all of them , after completing nursing courses
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, serve in two city hospitals, free of charge in their free time, they help because they cannot stay in side. the sisters of mercy, who help our junior nurses in caring for the sick , they change clothes, they change clothes, they wash, they don’t even shave men, they provide complete care, very professionally, and this help is invaluable to us now. at first it was not easy - sister evgenia admits, there were not enough materials for care products, the skills acquired during training helped with this, just baby soap, warm water, camphor alcohol, skillful hands made it possible to keep the sick person clean and in good physical health, but now in the sisters have orders all you need. in nursing work - this is when you cannot help a person, this happens for various reasons, sometimes these
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are resource moments, sometimes this is because we... work free time from our main work in the department, sometimes we just have to leave, although we we know that what else we can do to help the department in the future , we plan to expand this activity, which will cover all the needs that exist for caring for seriously ill people in our city. i don't know a time or place where there wouldn't be needs for love - says sister of mercy tatyana kravchenko. this was how it was in pre-revolutionary russia. when the sisterhood was born, so now, when this movement is becoming more and more in demand, because their hands will never be superfluous, but rather those that cannot be done without. olga mokhova, anastasia popova, valery savelelev, typical new russia. this is all we wanted to talk about today, kirill
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is set. the movement of trains on the green line of the capital's metro will be in a few hours, mayor sergei sobyanin announced. there was movement stopped due to an emergency, an hour and a half ago, two trains collided at the printer station of the lyublinskaya dmitrovskaya line. the driver was injured and found himself sandwiched in the cab between two trains. a female passenger was also injured. as explained in the capital's department of transport, everything happened due to the fact that one train, which was heading to the depot without

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