tv RIK Rossiya 24 RUSSIA24 October 11, 2023 4:00pm-4:31pm MSK
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so that they do not cooperate with russia. aren't you afraid that your visit will lead to some problems in relations with the united states, for example, with other western countries? well, of course not, iraq has the ability to make independent , sovereign decisions, build relationships as we believe are in our interests, and we will not allow anyone to dictate to iraq who... historical relations we will soon celebrate the eightieth anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations therefore iraq cannot forget russia's role in supporting iraq iraq during the war on terrorism arms supplies.
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it was, it played a decisive role in our battle against isis militants, so this visit at this time is a message and confirmation of the course that the government of iraq is pursuing in the context of relations with russia, this concerns the development of relations in all areas of security, the political sphere and economics, let's return once again to economics, from politics, the topic of gas, mr. president, vladimir putin, i heard what you said about germany at the valdai forum, and you said, that you in russia are ready to resume supply.
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gas to germany through the pipeline, nord stream, which was not damaged as a result of sabotage, have you received any signals from the german side in this regard, i want to draw your attention to the fact that we already supply germany via the territory of ukraine, they come in austria, in the baumgar hub. called, from there it is distributed to consumers throughout almost all of europe, i think it also reaches germany, but nord stream two is direct to germany, one line was not damaged, that’s 27.5 billion km weather, you just need to press a button, this requires a decision from the government of the federal republic of germany, they prefer to buy everything 30% more and not use our energy resources, well, that’s their choice.
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that means - they buy 30% more expensive in the united states, they are just happy there, well, enterprises, as i already said, some are already coming to the united states, but you know, i’m not right now, i want to be correct, but it seems to me that this some kind of stupid economic behavior, not... well, as if they are deliberately harming the economy germany, i don’t even, for me, i just don’t understand why, why it is possible to supply gas through the territory of ukraine to germany, but via nord stream 2, they think it’s impossible, why poland can’t be offered to open, which means europe, i just don’t understand this, i can imagine if i were to say, close everything, don’t take anything.
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well, okay, don’t take it and don’t take it, we’ll survive, but why it’s possible here and not here, i don’t understand, and probably no one understands, i think that very many people are doing things in the economic sphere in germany, there in germany itself few people already understand, but the volume is substantial, why bring it to such a state, i repeat again, why? it’s possible to take one route, but not another, well, this is some kind of nonsense, i’m just repeating it again, when i talk to colleagues from germany, yes, but i have contacts, until now , they are their own they live with their shoulders , shrug, what the government is guided by is completely incomprehensible, but here we can only say one thing: when our gas enters the territory of ukraine back in soviet times the whole system is built in such a way that it spreads... inside ukraine in this sense, and
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everything else is just on paper further, that it supposedly goes entirely through the territory. the western border of ukraine is there from storage facilities, its own production is supplied there further, but it’s still our gas, and ukraine itself probably partially uses our volumes, without our volume there it’s impossible to come up with anything, in reverse, whatever else you want, why would anyone -it’s possible, but let’s say germany doesn’t exist. there is no sane explanation, so this is up to them, ask them why there is a minister of economics there, a great specialist in the field of children's literature, there are also experts in the field of international relations, if there are people there with whom you need to talk, you
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ask questions, perhaps you have some explanation for this behavior? i’m telling you honestly, i’m not making anything up, it’s just irrational behavior , as if they were specially imprisoned to harm the german economy, why are they doing this, here it’s possible, but here it’s not, alexey borisevich, can you explain, alexey borisovich can’t either, miller aleksey borisevich, he supplied and supplied, but now gazprom supplies less, and the profitability is lower. incomes are less, yes, well, nothing, he, that’s it, gazprom feels confident, calm, coping , we are expanding gasification within the country , supplying more to other markets, building pipelines, why do some german economists need to behave like this, europe
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behave like this, in including the german economy, there is no sensible explanation, if you ask them, i think they won’t say anything sensible either, so what does that mean? well probably speak on a given topic, but something specific can hardly be formulated. this is the picture that you explained, the data that you convey, that you claim, that some european countries buy spanish from the united states at huge prices, instead of buying cheap russian ones. gas, your expectations, in light of what is happening in the world , it doesn’t matter what is happening in ukraine, what is happening in the middle east, now, do you expect that this issue, this situation will continue, and whether european countries will continue to purchase lng
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at high prices from the usa, i think, i think they will continue to buy, because they don’t sign contracts with us, which means they will have to within the framework of existing contracts. by the way, lng supplies from the middle east have increased, well, mainly from the states, i don’t remember how much there is an increase of 40 percent, in my opinion, it ’s over 40, alexandrovich, don’t you remember, twice , well, purchases from the usa have increased by two times, it’s 30% more expensive than our pipeline gas, well, it’s easy to calculate, profitability immediately drops, competitiveness decreases. it is not profitable to produce fertilizer, but it is not profitable, it’s just that the economics of enterprises producing fertilizers do not work out , with such high gas prices, it is impossible to calculate the economics of a fertilizer production enterprise, it goes into the red, they
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simply close, glass enterprises, which also require a lot of energy, are closed , metallurgically in poor condition, the chemistry of the bases, well, they have problems, why do they need to create problems for themselves in the hope that we will collapse, but we will not collapse, we will not collapse, everything is already clear, everything, and to them everyone it’s clear, no, they got into this rut and continue to fuss about this rut, without any analysis of the events taking place and without any analysis of what will happen in the near future, well, yes, we too may have questions, problems in the economy as a whole and so.. . in the gas sector, but we see prospects, we see, we understand what we need to do, we will deal with liquefaction , he is mr. mikhelson, he works very well, which means he achieves concrete results, and gazprom is working on liquefaction, and we will continue this do, flexibility
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market, it is very high compared to pipe gas, well, pipe gas is cheaper, but liquefied gases need to be liquefied, then delivered again, produce pipe gas, let’s go, huge competitive advantages are received by those of our partners who use this, but here they themselves refuse hope to harm us, but you know, here’s a well-known method, a well-known case, uh, say to the conductor , yes, i’ll buy a ticket and not go, on my own, well, why, the main thing, it’s not clear why you can get money on one route, they get it - route through ukraine, but here it’s impossible, they get it through the turkish stream, the turkish stream goes to europe, yes, let’s say it goes to southern europe, some of them.
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but still, in the end, all this extends to the economy of the whole of europe, why is it possible there, for example, on the nord stream two, which were not blown up by some scoundrels and which are in working condition, for some reason you can’t press the turn on button, but i don’t understand, god be with them, god be with them. we could not find any explanation politically, perhaps economically, for what is happening, but perhaps this explanation is psychological, moral, so to speak, do you agree with me, mr. president, no, i don’t agree with you, because if there was a moral one, it was necessary...’ say, let’s not take it through turkish
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flow, we will not take through the territory of ukraine, well then, yes, we can assume that everything has been cut off and no , we will not take anything from russia, we will persecute, but we will not let russia earn a single euro, but they are already taking in other ways routes, why don’t they take them here, well, nonsense some kind of, well, they, they just don’t know , they probably even blurted out once, then they realized that it was... bad, but there was no way to go back, but why? it’s not clear, well, you need to ask them, i don’t know, ask the chancellor, the minister of economy, the minister of foreign affairs, major political figures of our time, they will find the answer, perhaps mr. president, putin and the prime minister, of their own iraq.. the speeches touched on issues related to opec work within the framework of opec plus
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and other issues, baghdad announced - in the past june that the voluntary reduction of oil in the amount of 211,000 barrels per day will continue until december 2023 as part of the commitment that you have made... to reduce oil production, will you adhere to this decision? yes, undoubtedly, a coordination mechanism approved to counter the entire complex of these challenges, which we, we were able to achieve market stabilization, prevented its failure, maintain stability between producers and consumers, and these
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agreements that are in effect preserve supply and demand contributes to the stabilization of prices, and meets the interests of consumers and producers, as well as investors, is this... is this an example of a policy of interaction in order to respond to such challenges? perhaps, mr. president putin, you also pointed out in your speech the chaos that, through politicization, the west has spread in the energy sector, if there is a threat of blocking the market, with the goal of getting the americans a larger share in this market, and it’s my question
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to say the same thing replied the prime minister iraq, are you interested in extending the opec agreement after 23 to 2024? i think that we will most likely consult with our colleagues, but here decisions are made by consensus, differences in positions, we are always looking for consensus, in this sense, the crown prince of saudi arabia plays a very important role, he is very active. in this regard, it works very professionally, but uh, so today it looks like we will, of course, continue cooperation, but i want to draw your attention to the fact that this is not only the reduction in oil production there, by how much they have reduced 2.5 million barrels a day now, but, but this is also cooperation in the field of technology, this is
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cooperation in the field of personnel training, equipment, and so on and so forth, this is extremely important thing, this all unites us, will it be necessary to do something together in order to stabilize the markets next year, well, i don’t rule it out, well, most likely yes, but we will have to look at how the global economics, what will be the needs, at the moment, needs and production, well, thanks to our decisions, are balanced, if these decisions had not been there, then... then the price would most likely have gone below 50 dollars per barrel, but this would have led to the fact that there would not have been, if it weren’t, experts know, there wouldn’t be sufficient resources for investment; in the pre-covid period, the amount of investment, and then during covid, dropped
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by more than half compared to the previous period, and that’s why all the problems in the world. .. these are the people with whom i have great respect, the greens, yes, the so-called green parties, all over the world, they are engaged in a noble cause, they strive to preserve the climate, preserve the vitality of the planet, do no harm, and so on, this is correct, but everything must be done gradually, step by step, but what happened was this same nuclear energy in europe, in some countries. decided to close it, they decided to abandon coal, which means they decided to abandon our gas pipelines, it all led to what, but their level of use in the energy sector is the structure of the coal energy sector has increased many times, twice as much as in russia, well, this is the result, the result, of an unbalanced
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, ill-considered policy, which... yes, this is actually not politics, this is work in the domestic political sphere, which consists in that people are simply intimidated, well, partly with real, partly fictitious problems, they promise to solve everything, and then, then on this basis, essentially on the basis of deception, yes, they make their way to power, well, then what? anyway, people feel it later, look at the result land elections, now in the same federal republic, the greens failed, but because people see what is happening, they see the result of this policy, and here are the consequences in the political sphere, but we
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need to ensure, we need to ensure, such an income industry so that it is possible... the necessary resources for investment in a timely manner in oil, gas, and other sources, but by the way, in russia we have the greenest energy structure in the russian federation, almost 20% of us are already nuclear energy, 19.7 , yes, that means approximately the same amount, slightly less, is hydropower, which means that these are renewable sources, but 43% is gas, this is the most environmentally friendly, which means the type of fuel among hydrocarbons, we have the most, one of the greenest
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energy structures in the world, but we will continue to do, in the coming years we want to increase nuclear generation from 20 to 25%, we will not move along this path, everything must be staged and thought out, then success awaits us all, including on the path to green energy, we have plans appropriate, to zero emissions, which means we will go, we will, we will definitely move in this direction. indicators. in the twenty-second year the consumption level was 999 thousand barrels of barrels.
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per day, this is in light of fluctuations in economic organizations in financing, the allocation of investments in projects in the gas and oil industry, this situation will soon lead to the fact that prices will rise by... we hope that investments and financing in these projects will be continue to maintain supply levels and maintain stability prices, before we leave the topic of oil and coordination between members. i also had a question, mr. president putin, it is known that you have personal, very good relations with the crown prince of saudi
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arabia, mohammed bin salman, do these relations contribute to maintaining stability in the oil market, you know, well, it’s easier to say, that no, we are just business people, that’s the way it is, and of course, the hereditary principle, the principle... is primarily guided by the interests of saudi arabia, this is understandable, it would be strange if this it was different, but still, when such personal trusting relationships are established, it matters, because when making decisions of this kind, which we are talking about now, mutual trust is still very important, here is our deputy prime minister, mr. novak, who in practical terms is constantly involved, he sits there in the negotiation process, so... he won’t let you lie, there have been several times when, well, it’s difficult even to predict, we are not the pace of development of the world economy, the needs of asia, other markets, well, logistics and so on and so forth,
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and there were several times when he said, well, it’s difficult to predict, but the saudis believe that such and such a solution will be optimal, i say, come on, let’s agree, because well, there is no desire to cheat, deceive, it’s like that there is a desire... announced that the pipeline is ready to resume operation in order to
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pump iraqi oil, are you ready for this step? yes, of course, the government is ready to restore oil supplies through this pipeline; exports were suspended due to the decision of the international arbitration court on due to the consequences of the earthquake , which the turkish side suffered from, and certain technical examinations were carried out, which showed that the pipeline was ready, we received appropriate notification. you know that this wire, the oil pipeline carries oil from kirkuk to the kurt region, there are companies that
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operate in this area, we have an understanding with these companies in the light, in the light of the adopted balance law of 2023, and the ministry of oil of iraq continues ...what's coming soon in time, we will come to an agreement with them in order to resume transit through this oil pipeline, so iraq, this is within the framework of compliance with iraq’s obligations under the agreements, by the way, turkey, as far as turkey is concerned, there is. a project that connects russia, dear mr. president, hub, hub, gas hub in turkey, how is work going in this direction?
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but does russia’s vision correspond, does russia’s vision compare with the turkish vision for the implementation of this project? well, here we are primarily talking about creating an electronic gas trading platforms on the european continent, so everyone is interested in this, our turkish friends, partners, we are interested, but everyone who wants to acquire our resources. on the european continent, there are such people, today we supply gas there through turkey, we have two routes, turkish stream and blue stream, they work, they work efficiently, they are completely filled, in principle we have an idea to expand these opportunities, but i repeat at the first stage, this is the creation of an electronic trading platform, here
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do you have any plan to diversify sources... of course , i would like to emphasize that the position of the islamic republic of iran is that the continuation of gas and electricity supplies to iraq in the last period, despite the fact that they were not received, relevant financial payments. within the range of 11 billion euros, we had a real problem in maintaining the level of electricity supply , power supply to our citizens, especially in the summer, a very hot period, so we began work on activating
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associated gas projects, lastly, as i mentioned in recent years, we have not particularly developed this industry, associated gas, as part of the development of our oil production, which reaches 4.6 million barrels per day, so we turned to iran, which has large reserves. and of course also interested in to expand the supply of natural gas, so the government's plan was to move towards concluding an agreement with a number of companies, total with the company, to work with emirati and chinese
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companies, in order to ensure the necessary, necessary gas supplies to the nearest 3-5 years, so that we do not need to import further gas, as for the announcement of the development of gas fields, our ministry of oil is preparing these processes, there are promising fields within the framework - about 10-12 blocks that can be added in gas production, and we will be able to cover the needs of power plants, in the future, perhaps iraq will be a big player in...
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