[000:00:00;00] in that territory that has returned to its historical roots, in new russia, with the help of a careful look at history, we will try to reveal the originality of its present day, find typical features, recognizable signs of the past, that’s what we’ll talk about today: a high degree of trust in corrupt officials, paradoxes: public consciousness in ukraine. what's going on in their heads? conversation with a program expert. sisters of mercy - the return of a noble tradition. speaking about novorossiya, we cannot lose sight of the events in ukraine, especially if they influence the future of the region in one way or another. today we will try to find out

what happened to public consciousness in ukraine over the past year. despite the massive internal migration , millions of ukrainian citizens leaving abroad, hundreds of thousands of people in the combat zone who cannot be interviewed, despite the absence of opposition and only one information channel on the air. despite all this, ukrainian sociologists continue. according to them , vladimirsky retains just over 80% of personal trust or approval of his activities in depending on the wording. the majority, over 56 respondents, finally decided on ideology. almost 19% of respondents consider themselves nationalists. in 2021

there were no more than 4%. ukrainian society today largely lives by illusions, the biggest of which is the possibility of returning to ukraine the territories of novorossiya, which have become an integral part of russia. we are talking about crimea, donetsk and lugansk people's republics, zaporozhye and kherson regions. according to a survey by the kiev international institute of sociology. in june 2023 83.5% of ukrainians believe that victory for ukraine is possible only if all territories within the borders of the ninety-first year are returned, and all this against the backdrop of the absence of any successes in the months-long ukrainian counteroffensive, against the backdrop of major losses in the army of the armed forces of ukraine and the permanent mobilization campaign, extending to people with medical

contraindications to women, today in the ukrainian army there are more and more of those who do not understand why they should die at the front, when in the rear they are only filming, and not the minister of defense is imprisoned due to multimillion-dollar corruption. true, judging by the results of the surveys, in the minds of those surveyed, some realities are still beginning to appear, albeit in very bizarre forms. according to a survey conducted by the democratic initiatives foundation together with the kiev international institute of sociology in july 2023, 78% of ukrainians believe that president zelensky is directly responsible for corruption in the government and military administrations. only 18% of respondents disagree with this statement. paradox: 83% of respondents approve

zelsky’s activities, almost the same number consider him responsible for corruption in the country, for the stupidity for which military commissars are imprisoned and ministers are fired. only since the beginning of this year, there has been a failure in foreign policy; neither nato nor the eu will accept ukraine, neither in the near nor in the distant future. relations with western partners are deteriorating, there are not enough fighters for the armed forces, they are almost being collected. how all this is reflected in the public consciousness of ukraine is the version of our author anna efimova. center of kiev, end of august, maidan is full again people, wives, mothers, sisters demanding the return of their relatives home, ukrainian flags, appeals to the authorities, photographs of ukrainian armed forces fighters,

despite the obvious crowds... the local media ignores such actions, and systematically. the number of missing ukrainian armed forces soldiers numbers in the tens of thousands, but their fate is in the office of the ukrainian president. not to know, so that in the event of death, not to pay multimillion-dollar compensation to families, meanwhile, anti-war sentiment is growing not only in kiev, but also in dozens of other cities, odessa, zhitomir, and even in the western regions ukraine, traditionally considered the most trustworthy from an ideological point of view, was concerned about this in zelensky’s team; there are more and more people in favor of negotiations with russia, this is a very dangerous trend when people from western ukraine start talking about such things. however, conversations do not arise out of nowhere. the general mobilization of optimism certainly does not add to the optimism; there is no doubt about its mass character. a lot of videos have circulated on the internet where

disabled people are recognized as fit for military service, who, logically, shouldn’t even need certificates, everything is visible without paperwork. well, just take a walk, marvel, this is a warrior, this is a warrior, according to the latest... study of the ukrainian group rating, the number of those who believe that the state is successfully fulfilling its obligations to veterans continues to decrease. in august 2022 there were 69%, in january 2023 53%, in september only 33%. and similar, inconvenient and alarming figures for the ukrainian administration are only becoming more numerous. why are disabled people there, why is it given an order for all hospitals not to write off anyone? i was in this war for 7 months,

now i have no more strength. just the other day, data appeared regarding attitudes towards mobilization, this question is more practical, it concerns most people in one way or another, and there, it is clear that the situation is ambiguous, and moreover, that it is for... against this background, kiev continues to outwardly live a peaceful life, warm autumn weather, crowds of people walking along the boulevard, however, everything is the same as in moscow or other large cities of russia with one difference, all resources ukraine, and the main one - the human resource, are almost completely exhausted , ukrainians are reminded of the war to the last, including the flags that ordinary kiev residents put in the ground on the maidan in memory of the dead, the air of the ukrainian capital seems to breathe addiction. by the way, today is such a beautiful day that you can ride in a convertible , whoever has one, so people do not deny themselves anything, it is not something that is changing towards pro-russian or there, they remain

anti-russian in general the mood in society, but the attitude towards ilithi, yes, it is changing, yes, there is an addiction to both good and bad, it sets in very quickly in society, but now i think that many things are being revised, the latest figures indicate the following: the majority of local residents with the possible approach of hostilities to their cities, they will simply continue to live their normal lives. only 6% of kharkov, 8% of odessa and zaporozhian citizens, 12% of kiev residents and no more than 15% of lvov residents expressed their readiness to take up arms and beat muscovites. the contour offensive has been going on for 4 months now, according to the latest data, it turns out that they even occupied a little more territory than salareich conquered, suddenly, naturally, people who had such high expectations began to understand something,

and especially the tendencies towards enlightenment intensified when all sorts of european partners began to demonstrate fatigue from the ukrainians, so against the backdrop scandal with the export of ukrainian agriculture. andrzej duda, who had recently embraced zelensky in the verkhovna rada, suddenly began to compare ukraine with a drowning man, dragging his rescuers to the bottom, saying that his country is no longer will provide support to ukraine, stated hungarian political leader viktor orban. moreover, for the first time, the united states approved a draft budget for 45 days, which did not include assistance to ukraine at all. zelsky in this case is just an actor who was appointed to the position. since it seemed to him that the elite should behave and, in fact, as a result of this, zelensky created a package of mistakes, which , if he leaves office and today he

already understands this, will lead to his exact, namely economic liquidation, quite possibly to physical liquidation, that is if you pay attention to all the past... at a fairly high level , and the overwhelming number of ukrainians believe that in the next 5 years their country will even develop, but it seems that people are more likely to say what they want to hear from them if you now begin to carry out polls, then you will get answers, we will fight to the end, which means we will hold a parade on red square, and at the same time, every person who gives an interview will look back there at someone who is standing nearby, who

is passing nearby. because it is more developed than ever this denunciation is encouraged, as far as they report to me from the ground, they still believe in something, only the truly insane victims of the unified tv channel, which are now shown in the salreich, everyone else is quietly already thinking about how to crawl away from all this, but it’s a paradox the fact is that in a situation where no one really wants war, the fighting continues, and any search for peace at the political level turns into another profanation, russia learned the lesson of minsk 1 and minsk 2 well. anna efimova, valery sovelev, anastasia popova, typical novorossiya. about how public consciousness is changing in ukraine, and how this may affect the course of a special military operation. on the fate of novorossia as a whole, we will talk with our regular expert,

historian and political scientist, rostislav ishchenko. rostislav, good afternoon. good afternoon. rastislav, what do you think, the public consciousness, public opinion in ukraine has somehow changed today compared to the twentieth, twenty-first, early twenty-second year. every day, every week there is a little social change, but at the same time it is a very inert thing. and you can't. to expect that without some very serious shocks there will be a general breakdown , that is, for example, zelsky’s popularity has fallen, trust in the ukrainian authorities has fallen, but so far this does not happen, you say that no, it has fallen, it just has not fallen catastrophically, yes, but nevertheless, zelsky can no longer lead, say, a party into parliament, so that it forms an individual majority, well, at the moment he cannot, this means that trust in him personally has decreased.

that is, yes, he is still one of the highest-rated politicians in ukraine, but this is no longer the same rating that he had, let’s say in the nineteenth year, now there is another trend, in europe they suddenly noticed the presence of nazism in ukraine, and even completely calmly equated bonderism with nazism, but the fact is that this information does not fully reach ukrainians in ukraine, they have distorted information about what is happening in the world, so... here something that could become a serious shock for them, again contribute to a change in their attitude towards europe in general, towards the continuation of hostilities, in particular, they simply do not know about it now, a huge number of ukrainians, about 80% of respondents believe that zelsky responsible for the enormous corruption that has flourished there in the ministry of defense, on the other hand, he still has a very high trust rating of 80%, as it fits in the minds of people, well, first of all, it is necessary ...

understands that who orders the , then gets result, in ukraine even before it was possible to get one, for the same politician, in two polls that were conducted on behalf of different political forces, diametrically opposite results with a spread of 15-20%, so zelsky has a rating of 80 , i think, is somewhat untrue, but i repeat, his rating is really high, for now there is still something left, but all these contradictions are explained very simply: it is very difficult to abandon your basic beliefs, just like them it’s hard to give up the basic conviction that banderaism is good , this is democracy, this is europe, we must fight for it, in my opinion 19% of ukrainians called themselves nationalists today, although just 2-3 years ago, in this category was no more than 5%, well, again, you are for this very thing, for which we are for a national ... power, yes, that means we are nationalists, that’s

who the russians are against, they are against the nationalists, that means we are nationalists , we are fighting against the russians for our national power, this is the usual, so to speak, logic of confrontation works in them, they will then change circumstances, they will again become internationalists, that is, they will not change internally at all, this is a purely external identification, and the same thing happens with the attitude towards zelensky, that is, yes , he is corrupt, he is a thief, yes, but he is our thief, he is our supreme commander-in-chief, we are at war, so we support him, when the war ends, there is victory, universal joy, then we will find out who is the thief, who is the corrupt official there, and so on further, but for now what needs to be done to unite and fight, with the understanding of victory, it seems to me that not everything is going smoothly in ukraine either, a huge number of experts, especially against the backdrop of a failed counter-offensive, say that the idea of ​​​​returning all territories within the borders of the ninety-first year is no longer feasible, that is, returning territory of new russia is impossible - ukrainian experts say, and

yet, people interviewed in ukraine believe that victory will come only when it is possible to talk about the return... of all territories to ukraine, that’s how explain this paradox, and how does this threaten new russia, how will it affect its fate? well, let's start from the end, this does not threaten new russia, because at least that part of new russia, which is already part of russia, because it is clear that russia cannot be defeated in a war , in fact, it simply will not give up its territory to anyone, so wish, you can dream and believe as much as you like, but reality will come sooner or later. will become simply a tangible fact, this is what will happen at this moment to the consciousness of those very people in ukraine who believe that they are still capable, no, not they, but in general, so to speak, ukrainian troops are capable of regaining the territory of new russia, although none of the ukrainian serious experts, including the military,

no longer talks about this or even dreams , something terrible will happen, something similar to what happened to the public consciousness of germany in the twenties will happen. will begin to look for an enemy traitor, allies, of course, europe, the united states, everyone betrayed ukraine, because they wanted to trade with russia, so ukraine interfered with them, therefore they decided to betray her, anyone can be a traitor, yes, the hungarians, who therefore do not support ukraine ’s entry into nato, the poles, who do not like bandera, but should love there, then there will be many enemies, maybe in certain sections of society everyone will have your enemy, then awareness will gradually begin, this is a very long process, and if this... process is not fueled from the outside, if it is not helped, then the process of awareness of the normal situation, but it can even last for a century and may again to return society and the state to the next military-political crises, if not to an external war, then to an internal, civil war, which is why, by the way, i have always said that

a military operation is only a visible small part of the iceberg, the most important thing is then to work with the public ukrainian consciousness, those people who will remain in the territories adjacent to the russian federation and who will have to be brought to their senses for a very long time in several generations, which means, before they become the same people as everyone around them. it seems to me that this is a very difficult prospect for ukrainian society, since in the 21st century, in the century of enormous speeds of large flows of information, there is no longer much time for reflection and awareness of one’s own situation, and it seems to me that ukrainian society is tragic. thank you very much for an interesting and informative conversation. sister, give me some water, this phrase first became commonplace in hospitals during the crimean war of 1853-56

. it was then that the sisters of mercy began to care for the wounded. first to the theater went to combat operations in novorossiya. on the russian side, in the active army , a noble mission was carried out by the sisters of the holy cross community established by grand duchess elena pavlovna. their work and medical training were organized by the famous doctor, founder of field surgery, nikolai pirogov. this female medical formation later became the prototype of the international red cross movement. during that war, a new social institution was formed: the sisters of mercy. in 1863, an order was issued by the minister of war russian empire on the introduction of permanent nursing care for patients in military hospitals. sisters of mercy were trained by various

organizations, primarily sister communities, secular in spirit and essentially charitable associations. the sisters in the crimean war showed how important women's participation was for the wounded. women's hands caused less torment, a woman's heart was more sensitive to the hardships of those who became helpless soldiers. they could do what experienced orderlies often could not give. the sisters were driven not only by duty, but and compassion. pirogov wrote about them like this. i am proud to have led their blessed activities. today, a nurse is one of many medical professions, and yet in novorussia they began to revive the institute of nurses of mercy, and why, he will tell you... a black dress, a white scarf, an apron with

a red cross, after the crimean they went through the russian-turkish and russian- the japanese war, and if at the time of nikolai pirogov there were only about 150 sisters of mercy, then by the end of the first world war there were more of them on the front line already more than 20,000. it was necessary to have a certain age, and from twenty on average to 40 years old there had to be... a girl or woman, she should not have a family, she had to undergo training in the community, but ideally the courses lasted 2 years, in case successfully passing the exam, she had already received the honorary title of sister of mercy; in the soviet years, the spiritual, christian component of sisterhood was replaced by an emphasis on professional training, so sisters of mercy became medical nurses already on the fronts of the great patriotic war, about 200,000 sisters carried out from the battlefield and nursed the wounded. in difficult periods in the life of society, when there are not enough hands to do the basic things, wash, change clothes, feed, the need for mercy invariably increases, a sister

of mercy is a believer, i have my personal deep conviction that a sister of mercy is the person who brings god closer to this suffering person, the ability to move, not to be disdainful during hygiene, to be able to feed, not to consider that this is somehow very, very unprestigious, communication is very... important, because from communication a fighter or a wounded or a sick person can be pulled out of the bottom of despair, since may 2022, in the moscow hospital of st. alexei, the moscow patriarchate of the russian orthodox church, courses are being held on the professional training of junior medical staff in caring for the sick, graduates who have completed certification, they are called nursing professors here, they go as volunteers to the donbass to care for the wounded and seriously ill, or stay to help in moscow hospitals. well, what to hide? there are wounded and they need help, and

of course, now there is a special need for this, that they relieve the burden on nursing staff, who are in short supply in the donbass, taking into account that now there is a great need to train people as quickly as possible to help the wounded, we have now reduced these courses to two weeks, but they are intensive, courses almost every day , include a theoretical part, and , most importantly, a practical one, more than 800 people, of different professions, ages, religions , have already graduated from such courses, but they remain to help not everyone is suffering, it’s good if 40 percent, admits alexey zarov, just like not all of the graduates are sisters of mercy, because the cross on the consecrated white plate, the promise to serve and the blessing of the bishop, is the result of a conscious choice of a christian. once upon a time we come to church with all our requests, we say: lord, give, lord, help , so we ask for ourselves or for our loved ones, but someday there comes a christian period when a person already says: lord , and what can i do for you, that’s sisterhood

- that’s exactly the answer, when we can serve your neighbor, and reading the gospel, where the lord says that you helped one of these little ones, you helped me. on a rotational basis, every week volunteers sisters of mercy go to hospitals in five cities of donbass to care for those who especially need it. on the road, moscow specialists have already conducted about twenty courses, after which their own sisterhoods were formed in gorlovka, berdyansk and novoaydar, with the support of the clergy. we go and help people in surgery, we go to therapy and neurology, we also help people, we provide foster care, we take care of people who are at home, also immobile, so we help them, we come to people. sisters of charity volunteer community of sisterhood. parishioners of local churches, all of them, after completing nursing courses , serve in two city hospitals, free of charge in their free time,

they help because they cannot stay away. the sisters of mercy, who help our junior nurses in caring for the sick, they change clothes, they redo things, they wash, they even shave men, they do. care, very professionally, and this help is invaluable to us now. at first it was not easy, sister evgenia admits, there were not enough materials for care, the skills acquired during training helped with this, just baby soap, warm water, camphor alcohol and skillful hands made it possible to keep the sick person clean and physically healthy. now the sisters have everything they need at their disposal. the hardest thing about nursing is when you can't help the person. this happens for various reasons, sometimes it’s resource moments, sometimes it’s something

that we work during our free time from our main work in the department. sometimes we just have to leave, although we know that what else we can do to help in the department, in the future we plan to expand this activity, which will cover all the needs that exist for caring for seriously ill people in our city. i don’t know a time and place where there would not be a need for love - says sister of mercy tatyana kravchenko, this was the case in pre-revolutionary russia, when sisterhood was born, and now, when this movement is becoming more and more in... demand because their hands will never be superfluous, but rather those that cannot be done without. olga mokhova, anastasia popova, valery savelev, typical new russia. this is all we wanted to talk about today, kirill

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