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this way the hamas war machine can be destroyed and people will support the government in this. what hamas did in committing this horrific murder reminded the world of the existence of the palestinian conflict. and the main problem is not with hamas, the organization can be destroyed, and israel will most likely do it, but something else will appear in its place. there is no point in asking the question of what’s next now at the peak of war and hatred. but it will come back again as a two-state solution in palestine. the problems are great, but the implementation of the un decision on the creation two states in palestine, the path to finding a settlement. some diplomats say the two- state formula is no longer applicable after recent events. i personally believe that this is not the case, the two- state scheme remains a possible option, but of course, the most pressing issues must be resolved. there is another option: one
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state, but which one? a solution that provides for the creation of two states is no longer relevant; it is simply physically impossible, taking into account israeli settlement activity in general israeli policy. in palestine now has one state, in this state there are jewish citizens with full rights, there are citizens of muslim and christian origin, which belongs to the second class: there is a vast population. which has no rights at all and is under military occupation, there are 2.5 million inhabitants of gaza who are simply under blockade, which means that four categories of people live in this state, only one of them has full rights, a single state, then there should already be delivered
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the question of minority rights, well then, then the palestinian line should then be such that then we say that this is apartheid, we fight for civil equality, the fight for equal rights begins, at some point, after 10, 20, 30 years, this struggle will be crowned with success, because it is crowned with success everywhere, and then, and then the whole question is in demography, well, it’s very difficult to predict and predict something, well , roughly... it’s clear, in israeli society the idea of ​​​​a single state where there would be equal, equal citizens, palestinians and jews and everyone else, this idea is very unpopular, and it is unpopular because from childhood israeli schoolchildren are drilled into the idea that there is anti-semitism all over the world, that a jew cannot live anywhere except in israel if they want... to be safe,
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in my opinion, israel is the least safe place for jews , because today i don’t know any countries where jews will simply be killed, for no reason, for no reason, but in israel this happens, because he is an israeli jew, that is, this idea of ​​a single state, until i see that in israel she will find a lead. of course, many israelis say, and i understand them, that if there is a single state, then these embittered palestinians will slaughter them all, and there will be a generally terrible, terrible pogrom, well , just last saturday we saw how this could look, it’s very difficult find a solution that will satisfy both parties.
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with the jewish state, and the palestinian administration in the west bank is too weak to conclude any agreements, they have difficulty governing the west bank due to insufficient legitimacy, but there is also such a point of view, despite the nightmares of the current crisis, what has never happened before, the dust will settle, the dead will be mourned, everything will gradually return to... normal or not? the first significant problem is that in arab societies there are a number of socio-economic, social , socio-political problems that, like those that caused the 2011 event, have worsened since then, they have not been resolved, and are superimposed on this those economic crises with which these societies collide. and the inability of the government
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to solve these crises, so i think that this emotional intensity can spill out here. and this can be quite a long time, this is the first point, the second point is that of course, in our country everyone has somehow begun to forget about political islam, the last few years, but frankly speaking, these people have not gone anywhere, they still exist , yes, they were defeated in different countries for different reasons, they needed to rethink this, but i think that the current event, this islamic islamist radicalism of political islam in its various forms. the third point is the spread of far-right ideas in the world.
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and accordingly, this creates the ground for islamophobia on the one hand, and for anti-semitism, judeophobia on the other hand, if we win the war and destroy hamas, the saudis will like it, the jordanians will, because hamas is the palestinian wing of the muslim brothers, so that they want us to win, although of course they won’t say this out loud. in general, the point of the abrahamic accords is to strengthen israel, which would help the arab countries survive in the face of iran's attempts to establish regional hegemony in conditions where the americans are gradually leaving here. after the advertisement we will continue to discuss. military-political aspects of the crisis in the middle east. let's do the following.
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as the war ends, there will be an investigation into how it happened that we were caught by surprise and suffered such losses. if the war is successful, the netanyahu government will have a better chance. if it is not successful, political consequences will be inevitable; i think even if successful, part of the current opposition will remain. a fresh poll carried out in hot pursuit shows israelis believe the government is responsible for the surprise attack, even after the end of the war. netanyahu must resign. while a war cabinet was created in israel, which included benny gans, one of netanyahu’s irreconcilable opponents, yairlad, the second fierce oppositionist, refused. i don’t see much difference between what in israel is called left and right, because of the left... frankly speaking, there is little left, that is, there is a tactical difference, for example, the same
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bengvir or smotrich, they like to provoke, they love as if to show their strength, more peaceful zionists, this is where we are talking about zionist ideology, more peaceful people, they try not to provoke, but their goals are exactly the same, namely to preserve the state. israel, where the majority are not arabs, you see, it is very important to say that not so much jews as not arabs, and this is today, i think, a consensus in israeli society, well, at least not arab, because 20% of the israeli population as the palestinians know, what is happening for the internal situation in the united states is no less important than the israeli issue for america. not exactly foreign policy, but more precisely not external at all.
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biden is leading a presidential campaign, approximately 2.4% of the us population are jews, many of them do not care about israel, some do, but it is important that half of the donations to the democratic party come from wealthy jews, for them the israeli issue is significant, and biden needs to ensure attention of donors, but i would suggest for now: that the crisis increases the chances of donald trump, elections are not only in the united states, egyptian president abdel-fattah as-sisi is going to be re-elected in november. egypt is quite vulnerable. the only one the corridor in gaza is rafah, which opens onto the sinai peninsula. the egyptians are not enthusiastic, but the question is whether they can stop the flow. this is a real threat to the existence of any state, including egypt. take egypt for example, there will most likely be very strong popular pressure on
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the sisi government to do something about the palestinian crisis. similar instability is possible in jordan; we have already seen exchanges of fire between lebanese hezbollah and israeli forces. syria may be drawn in. there is a risk of acts of sabotage against american bases in the region. threats, for example, were made in iraq. if a regional aggravation occurs. it will have large-scale consequences throughout the world, now diplomatic efforts are simply urgently needed, applying diplomatic efforts to what is happening still sounds like an axumaron, and calls to stop violence on the side of the conflict are simply annoying. we are disappointed by the russian position of calling for a truce when it is obvious that everyone wants to fight. israel behaved very carefully towards russia during the ukrainian conflict. russia
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still, it’s probably worth sticking to the position that has already been taken, that is, calls for peace, calls for an end to the conflict, because what we now see happening directly in gaza, it and around it, to any of the camps here won't do any good. in the end, the war will end, there will be no winners, both sides will lose. even if the gas rolls into the asphalt, it will do nothing. and in the end, you will have to look for ways of direct or indirect negotiations. and here you will still need the efforts of the quartet, russia, the usa, european union and un. one thing has already happened, it will affect russia, this is the linking of arms supplies to israel. ukraine, meaning the likelihood of further aid to ukraine has increased, although many republicans oppose it.
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well, the circle is closed, we come to our main topic. the crisis in the middle east , as always, has not only a political, but also a military aspect. let's talk about it with our good friend ruslan pukhov. ruslan, hello. good afternoon. there is already some understanding of how this could happen. which is obviously good the prepared operation literally under the noses of the israelis was missed, you know, in fact, with all the sensationalism of this failure. in the field of intelligence, there are a lot of such examples in history, the fact is that intelligence activity is not only the collection of information in which, by the way, for example, both the americans and soviet military intelligence have always been strong, it is also the interpretation and communication of this information to top political leadership, in the classic work of the famous american political scientist robert jorvis, why intelligence fails, there are such deadlines, if
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the expectation of accuracy of intelligence leads politicians ... to seek assessments that strengthen their positions, give them confidence, then knowledge of the frequent fallibility of intelligence allows them to reject or ignore inconvenient reports, that is you can turn it the way you want, it is quite obvious that the israelis were very fixated on hamas, oh, excuse me, on hezbal, on the west bank of the iker jordan in iran, it seemed to them that hamas was weak link, that in the gas they definitely know everything, for sure it... everything was infiltrated by their agents, so they were absolutely sure that this is where the blows came from, this is where the blows are coming from, well, apart from surprise, was there anything else, well, some kind of innovation on the part of hamas, you know, what was rather surprising was not that hamas acted somehow creatively, although you can’t deny
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a certain ingenuity and resourcefulness, but how weak they turned out to be israelis? it is clear that hamas and those who support it consulted, for many months, if not years, they studied systemic deficiencies in the israeli defense, let's call it that , because if the israelis were truly like a rock, no one would have touched this rock, uh-huh, the water will find a hole, it was precisely into these cracks that water flowed and this so-called rock was torn apart, well, the weakness here is not technological, not from the point of view, well... equipment, namely mental, it turns out, i think that the main weakness here is in the underestimation of that those arabs whom they defeated with forty eight to eighty-two - these are no longer the same arabs with whom they are fighting now, arab society has tightened up very much, especially those arabs who neighbor israel, this is largely an industrial and post-industrial society,
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and not those kind of gatherings villachs, who were so easily dispersed by more organized israel. army to the israeli special services, but imagine for a second that in 10 years every second resident of gaza has his own quadcopter with a grenade, what will the israelis do then? about that quadcopter with a grenade, paragliders, everything we saw here, mopeds, i, as not an expert, cannot judge, but i have a feeling that military development, this insanely expensive equipment that is used in weapons, has passed some kind of phase when it already, in a sense, it loses, the role no longer plays, when on the one hand there are hundreds of millions of dollars for one shot, on the other hand there is a moped, is this really so, or is this also some kind of illusion, you know, any army, and any armed force , even
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rebel, must exist, relatively speaking, at two speeds, you certainly must have a certain amount, well , it is advisable to have as much of it as possible, expensive high-tech... but this does not negate the fact that you must have a huge amount of low-tech weapons that you can, use without thinking about how much it costs, yes, in this sense, of course, from the point of view of efficiency , cost, well, how much did this operation cost hamas, well, 20 million, well, 25 million, and i think one reflection, the count is already on hundreds of millions in dollars, and if they want to recoup... it will be a colossal operation, very costly in monetary terms, not to mention that those reforms of the intelligence services and armed forces that will probably follow after this failure will also require very large investments, and
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growth of the military budget, the 21st century has already shown us a fair amount of wars, in fact, somehow we are unnoticed, but experience has been accumulated, be healthy, can we say, taking into account the fact that now everything happened earlier in ukraine, and syria, and so on further, yemen, what is some trends that are common to the development of military art, you know, yes and no , on the one hand, we see that these are the same unmanned aerial vehicles that, in general, 10 years ago were made exclusively in military factories . exclusively by order of the ministry of defense or some other law enforcement agencies, now all combatants, and the first were not ukrainians, but the first were militants from the state, you take a wedding drone from a dji wedding photographer, not necessarily mavic, you can do something even more
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cheap, or analogues, you attach a grenade to it, here is an impact weapon, which, in general, with a grenade for a few hundred dollars can destroy a mirkava tank worth several million dollars, and if we talk in the field of reconnaissance, then ten-, twenty-fold zoom allows you to simply monitor the battlefield in real time. in general, the fog of war is clearing , so there is a certain revolution, but on the other hand, there is nothing new under the sun, in fact, this unexpected - the success of hamas, this uprising, in general, we have seen this many times, especially if it is accompanied by good media coverage, and the goal is, uh, either to break the spirit and knock out the enemy, or to inflict irreparable image losses on him, which i think can already be stated now happened to israel, and so... it seems that , morally and ethically, the israelis are losing this war. yes, thank you very much, ruslan pukhov was our guest.
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many have long given up on the palestinian issue ; i consider it a dead end, and therefore lost their meaning. fixing a problem without real attempts to solve it has created the illusion of stability. but the phenomenon that we saw quite recently in karabakh repeated itself. those who believed that it was possible to settle comfortably in a dead end lost to those who believed that systematic preparation and surprise could explode the status quo. now any outcome leads to an increase in antagonism, and this benefits the most desperate, or desperate. the result is a terrible human tragedy. soared above the seemingly calm routine powerful... a protuberant of hatred, and before it goes out, it is capable of burning everything around. it was an international review. see you later. everything you expect from chicken
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tiny drone copters made a significant contribution to the failure of the so-called ukrainian counteroffensive. bandera's men were not saved german korists even now they are not saving them and they will not save them, we will destroy them. it was volunteer taras who agreed to help us. taras will survive. let's see. oh, it was just blown to pieces. on average, you need to have 100 drones for a day of battle. do you want loaves? drones, they still smell like fresh bread. we bake 60 types of bread, and at the same time we manage to make drones; for our guys, to bake a drone, one person can do it in an hour. when the war is over, then we will get food.
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virtual reality glasses, any specialist can evaluate the interior of a car that may not yet physically exist, but exists only in the form of sketches. about the main events of this... the israeli army has transferred significant forces to the gaza strip, they are preparing a large-scale ground operation, the authorities demanded that residents of the south of the region evacuate within 24 hours, while the shelling did not stop. in turn, hamas fired 150 rockets at zderrot and is hitting bengurion airport. about the situation, sergey poshkov, alexander belibov and tariq alyan. the last
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