tv RIK Rossiya 24 RUSSIA24 October 14, 2023 10:30am-11:00am MSK
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compared life in gas to an open-air prison. the shock experienced by israel is so great that the ruthlessness of the response is not only not hidden, but emphasized in every possible way. now the mood in israel is one of gigantic rage over the atrocities that we discovered when we cleared the areas where there were terrorists. and the second element is a general, firm understanding that a ground military operation is necessary. what hamas did by committing a terrible murder reminded the world that there is a palestinian conflict, and most importantly, it is not hamas that is the problem. the organization can be destroyed, and israel will most likely do this, but in its place something else will appear, the question of what’s next is now at the peak of the war and not... there is no
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point in asking, but it will return, again, as a decision about two states in palestine. the problems are great, but implementing the un decision to create two states in palestine is the path to finding a solution. some diplomats say the two- state formula is no longer applicable after recent events. i personally believe that this is not the case, a two state solution remains a possible option, but of course, must be resolved more urgently. however, there is another option, one state, just what kind, a solution that provides for the creation of two states is no longer relevant, it is simply physically impossible, taking into account israeli settlement activity in general, israeli policy. palestine now has one state , in this state there are jewish citizens with full rights, there are citizens of muslim and christian origin who are second class: there is a vast
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population that has no rights at all and is under military occupation , and there are 2.5 million residents of gaza who are simply under blockade, which means that four categories of people live in this state, and only one of them has full rights, a single state, then the question of rights of the minority, well then...' then the palestinian line should then be such that then we say that this is apartheid, we fight for civil equality, the fight for equal rights begins, at some point after 10-20-30 years , this fight will be crowned with success, because it is increasing everywhere with success, and then the whole question is in demography, well, it’s very difficult to predict and forecast anything.
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well, in general it is clear that in israeli society the idea of a single state , where citizens, palestinians and jews and everyone else would have equal rights, is very unpopular, and it is unpopular because from childhood israeli schoolchildren are taught the idea that there is anti-semitism all over the world and that a jew cannot live anywhere except in israel. if they want - to be safe. in my opinion, israel is the least safe place for jews, because today i don’t know any countries where jews are just killed, just like that, for no apparent reason, this happens in israel, because he is an israeli jew, that is, this the idea of a single state, while i don’t see that in israel... it will find adherents, of course
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, many israelis say, and i understand them, that if there is a single state, then these embittered palestinians will slaughter them all and it will be generally terrible, terrible pogrom, and now last saturday we saw how it may seem very difficult to find a solution that will satisfy both parties. i don't think the palestinian movements, especially hamas, are ready to discuss any kind of compromise with the jewish state, and the palestinian authority in the west bank is too weak to make any agreements, they have difficulty governing the west bank due to insufficient legitimacy. but there is also such a point of view, despite the nightmares of the current crisis, what has never happened before, the dust will settle, the dead they will pay for everything... the first significant problem
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is that in arab societies, there is a whole range of social. economic, social, socio-political problems, which, as, which caused the events of 2011, since then they have worsened, they have not been resolved, this is compounded by the economic crises that these societies face, and the inability of the government to solve these crises , so i think that this emotional intensity, it can... splash out here, and it can be quite long, this is the first moment, the second point is that, of course, in our country everyone has somehow begun to forget about political islam over the past few years, but frankly speaking, these people have not
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gone anywhere, they exist, yes, they were defeated in different countries, in different reasons, they needed to rethink this, but i think that on... events they provide the opportunity for the revival of this islamic islamist and the radicalism of political islam in its various forms. the third point is the spread of far-right ideas in the world. and accordingly, this creates the ground for islamophobia on the one hand, and for anti-semitism, judeophobia on the other hand. the jordanians, because hamas is the palestinian wing of the muslim brotherhood, so they want us to win, although of course they won’t say it out loud. in general, the point of the abraham accords is to strengthen israel, which would help the arab
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did it happen that we were caught by surprise and suffered such losses? if the war is successful, the netanyahu government will have a better chance if it is not successful, political consequences will be inevitable; i think even if successful, part of the current opposition will remain. a fresh poll conducted in hot pursuit shows that 86% of israelis believe that the government is responsible for the surprise attack and that netanyahu should resign after the end of the war. so far , a war cabinet has been created in israel, which includes benny gans, one of netanyahu’s irreconcilable opponents. but yairlad, the second fierce oppositionist, refused. i don't see much difference between what they call in israel left and right. because, frankly speaking, there is little left of the left, that is, and ... there is a tactical difference, for example, here is the same
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bengvir or smotrich, they love to provoke, they like to show their strength, as it were, the more moderate zionists, precisely here we are talking about zionist ideology, more moderate people, they try not to provoke, but their goals are exactly the same , namely to preserve the state of israel, where the majority... are not arabs, you see, it is very important to say that not so much jews, but not arabs and this is me today i think there is a consensus in israeli society, well, at least not in arab society, because 20 % of the population of israel, as you know, are palestinians, what is happening is no less important for the internal situation in the united states, the israeli issue for america is not exactly foreign policy, or rather , not at all externally. biden is running a presidential campaign: approximately 2.4% of the us population is jewish. many
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of them do not care about israel, some do, but it is fundamental that half of the donations to the democratic party come from wealthy jews. for them, the israeli issue is significant, and biden needs to ensure the attention of donors, but for now i would suggest that the crisis increases the chances of donald trump. elections not only in the united states, egyptian president abdal-fattah al-sisi is up for re-election in november. egypt is quite vulnerable. the only corridor in gaza is rafa, which opens onto the sinai peninsula. the egyptians are not enthusiastic, but the question is - are they able to stop the flow? this is a real threat to the existence of any state. and egypt - not an exception. take for example. egypt, there will most likely be very strong pressure from the population on the sisi government to do
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something about the palestinian crisis. similar instability is possible in jordan; we have already seen exchanges of fire between lebanese hezbollah and israeli forces. syria may be drawn in. there is a risk of acts of sabotage against american bases in the region. threats, for example, were made in iraq. if a regional escalation occurs, it will have widespread consequences throughout. to what is happening, while it sounds like axumaron, and calls to stop violence on both sides of the conflict are simply annoying. we are disappointed by the russian position of calling for a truce when it is obvious that everyone wants to fight. israel behaved very carefully towards russia during the ukrainian conflict. we followed a line that we didn't like.
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russia should probably stick to the position that has already been taken, that is, calls for peace, calls for an end to the conflict, because what we now see happening directly in gaza is around it, joining any of the there will be no camps here on the floor. in the end, the war will end, there will be no winners in it, both sides will lose, even if the gas is rolled into the asphalt, it will not give anything, in the end we will have to look for direct paths or... the quartet of russia, the usa, the european union and the un, one thing is already happened, it will affect russia , this is the linking of arms supplies to israel and ukraine , that is, the likelihood of further assistance to ukraine has increased, although many republicans are against this, well, the circle is closed, we come to
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our main topic: the crisis in the middle the east has, as always, not only a political, but also a military aspect. let's talk about it with our good friend, ruslan pukhov. ruslan, hello. good afternoon. there is already some understanding of how it could happen that an obviously well-prepared operation, literally under the noses of the israelis, was missed. well, you know, in fact, with all the sensationalism of this failure in the field of intelligence , there are many such examples in history... the fact is that intelligence activity is not only the collection of information, which, by the way, has always been directly , for example, both the americans and soviet military intelligence are strong, it is also the interpretation and communication of this information to the highest political leadership, here in the classic work of the famous american political scientist robert jorvis, why intelligence fails, and there are such deadlines if the expectation of
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accuracy of intelligence data forces politicians to look assessments that strengthen their positions give them confidence, then knowledge of the frequent fallibility of intelligence data allows them to reject or ignore inconvenient reports, that is, as you want, you can turn it around. it is quite obvious that the israelis were very much fixated on hamas, oh, excuse me, on hezbollah, on the west bank of jordan , on iran, it seemed to them that hamas was the weak link, that they definitely knew everything in gaza, for sure this was all the gas was infiltrated by their agents, so they were absolutely sure that they shouldn’t expect a blow from here, from here, well, besides surprise, was there anything else, well, some kind of innovation on the part of hamas? you know, what was rather surprising was not that hamas acted somehow creatively, although one cannot deny a certain ingenuity and
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resourcefulness, and how weak the israelis turned out to be, it is quite obvious that hamas and those who ... advised it, for many months, if not years, studied systemic shortcomings in the israeli defense, let's call it that, because if the israelis were truly like a rock, no one would move on this rock, uh-huh, the water will find a hole, it’s in these cracks that the water flows into this rock, the so-called torn apart, well, there’s no weakness here technological, not from the point of view of equipment, but mental, it turns out. that the main weakness here lies in the underestimation of the fact that those arabs whom they defeated from forty-eight to 82 are no longer the same arabs with whom they are fighting now, arab society has tightened up very much, especially those arabs who neighbor israel, this is largely an industrial and post-industrial society, and not some kind of gatherings of fillahs, which
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were so easy to disperse by the more organized israeli army or israeli special services, but imagine... that in 10 years every second resident of gaza has his own quadcopter with a grenade, what will the israelis do then? regarding the quadcopter with a grenade, paragliders, everything we saw here, mopeds, i, as a non-specialist , cannot judge, but i have a feeling that military development, this insanely expensive equipment that is used in weapons, has passed some kind of phase , when it already... well, in a sense, it loses, it no longer plays a role, when on the one hand there are hundreds of millions dollars per shot, on the other hand , here is a moped, is this really true, or is this also some kind of illusion? well, you know, any army, and any armed force, even a rebel one, must exist , relatively speaking, at two speeds, you certainly must have a certain amount, and
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it is advisable to have as many expensive high-tech weapons as possible, but this does not change the fact that you must have... a huge number of low-tech weapons that you can use without thinking about it, but how much does it cost, yes, in this sense, of course, from the point of view of efficiency, cost, well, how much did this operation cost hamas, well, 20 million, well, 25 million, and i think, one reflection, the count is already hundreds of millions of dollars, and if they want to occupy gaza, which in fact is now already. village, but a large metropolis with a population of two million, this will be a colossal operation, very costly in terms of money, not to mention the fact that those reforms of the special services in the century have already shown us a fair
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number of wars, in fact, somehow we imperceptibly, but experience has been accumulated, be healthy, is it possible to say, taking into account what has happened now, everything before ukraine, and syria, and so on, yemen, that there are some trends that are common to the development of military art. well, you know, yes and no , on the one hand, we see that these are the same unmanned aerial vehicles that, in general , 10 years ago were made exclusively at military factories, exclusively by order of the ministry of defense or some other law enforcement agencies, yes, now all are combatants, moreover, the first were not the ukrainians , but the first were precisely the militants of the islamic state, you take a wedding drone, a dji wedding photographer’s drone, not necessarily mavik , you can have something even cheaper or analogues, tie a grenade to it, here’s an impact
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weapon, which in general - a grenade costing several hundred dollars can destroy a merkava tank worth several million dollars, and if we talk in the field of reconnaissance, then ten-, twenty-fold zoom allows you to simply monitor the battlefield in real time, in in general, the fog of war is lifting, so definitely... there is a revolution, but on the other hand, there is nothing new under the sun, and in fact, this unexpected success of hamas, this uprising, in general, we have seen this many times, especially if it is accompanied by good media coverage, the goal is either to break the spirit and knock out the enemy, or to inflict irreparable image losses on him, which i think can already be stated has happened with israel, and it seems that in moral and ethical terms israel... are losing this war. yes, thank you very much, ruslan pukhov was our guest. many have long
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given up on the palestinian issue, considering it a dead end and therefore no longer important. fixing a problem without real attempts to solve it has created the illusion of stability. but the phenomenon that we saw quite recently in karabakh repeated itself. those who believed that they could settle comfortably in a dead end... lost to those who believed that systematic preparation and a surprise attack could explode the status quo. now any outcome leads to an increase in antagonism, and this is beneficial to the most desperate or despairing. the result is a terrible human tragedy. a powerful protuberance of hatred soared above the seemingly calm routine. and before it goes out, it is capable of burning everything around. this was an international review, see you later.
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near east. on the verge of a full-scale war and a human catastrophe, stated the permanent representative of russia to the un, in a meeting with the international organization, our country introduced a resolution calling for immediate truce. 70 dead out of hundreds wounded the israeli air force struck civilians in the gaza strip. the idf has not yet commented on this shelling. c25 crews work in the donetsk direction of the special operation, they fly out in pairs, and strike the military.
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equipment and facilities of the armed forces of ukraine. what was the youth day of the energy week like, how did the competition between leading russian officials and young specialists go, and what did the winners receive as a prize? dmitry morok's report reads about it. the israeli air force attacked a convoy of civilians, who tried to leave the gas sector. at least 70 people were killed and more than 200 injured. the israeli military has not yet commented on this attack, but published a message that today from 10 to 16 local time, gazans will be able to safely leave the city along two corridors. maria skorodilko will talk about the situation in the region. missile air raid siren.
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