tv RIK Rossiya 24 RUSSIA24 October 16, 2023 9:30am-10:01am MSK
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you know, it seems to me that the main advantage of the concept of interaction proposed by the chinese side is that within the framework of this work no one imposes anything on anyone, all this is carried out within the framework of the search not only for acceptable solutions, but for such projects and such ways to achieve a common goals that are acceptable to everyone? for today’s china, under the leadership of the chairman, this is such a feature, as it were, in building relationships with others, no one imposes anything on anyone and does not force, only opportunities are provided and if any difficulties arise, compromises are always found, as i already said, this...
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is what distinguishes the project proposed by the chinese chairman, one train, one track, from many others that are trying to implement in the world of a country with a heavy colonial legacy, about our bilateral relations, we also have a lot of interests and common projects, including in the sports field, for example, according to the ministry of education of the russian federation, the number students from russian schools who participated in the exam, the unified state exam in the chinese language, has doubled recently ; russian literature, of course, and music have influenced several generations of chinese people, and we, of course, have been heart-tuggingly watching russian young figure skaters, trusova, valieva. cherbakova,
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they have a very large, large fan community on the chinese internet, and chinese internet users even call them fairies, who fight each other, literally, and do you think humanitarian and sports cooperation is of great value to our friendship? of course, sports cooperation, as part of humanitarian interaction, is very important because it establishes contacts between people directly. and the fact that sports fans of our athletes appear in china is not surprising, because these are bright stars, but we follow the successes of chinese athletes with great respect, we always look at how work in the field of sports is organized, maybe there are some individual athletes or spheres which you especially follow, well, of course, we know chinese athletes, we know, we know about , say, gymnasts, there are other areas,
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it is important that in china work is organized at a good, professional level in the field of high-achievement sports. but it is no less important, of course, to establish contacts at a more modest level, at the level of physical culture, at the regional level, at the level of competitions, say, between higher educational institutions, between provinces and constituent entities of the russian federation, it seems to me that this is necessary... more look this way this, in my opinion, would be very interesting, well, in fact, this is what is being done, as far as i know, within the framework of interregional cooperation, colleagues are also paying the necessary attention to this, i am sure that this will happen, i am sure that this will develop, it is important, you know , that our sporting interaction is devoid of all kinds of, not only political, but also economic conditions , unfortunately, today’s international sport is... increasingly immersed in
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commerce, we have nothing like that in our sporting relations, i hope this will never happen, dear mr. president, you once said that if you didn’t play sports, if you didn’t do judo, then your life might have taken a completely different path, why do you say that, well, here i am i know everything, it’s no secret, i come from such a simple family, at one time i had a lot of working time to spend time in the yard, i don’t know what my fate would have been like if i hadn’t become interested in sports, in fact, not even very important, how important it is that i paid attention to sports there was a lot of attention to this, priorities immediately appeared to assert oneself not in the yard, not in some kind of, well, let’s say not very
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not very disciplined youth environment, but to assert oneself on sports grounds , in this case in tatama, certain views immediately appeared on the relationship: with other people , on how to build these relationships, how to treat partners with respect, how to avoid anything that could somehow undermine relationships between people , and so on, this is what sport educates, this is very important, therefore the development of our interaction in this sense is extremely important, in the modern world, where there are so many threats, such as those that come from the internet, that come from the illegal distribution of drugs, and so on, the participation of young people in sports is an extremely important thing, the formation character, and absolutely correct,
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stable, life attitudes, mr. president, recently at the aldai forum you mentioned a fair multiplicity and morality in the value system, you also said that a rules-based order is a manifestation of colonial thinking, why do you think so, what needs to be done to democratize international relations, as well as the movement to build a multipolar world order. you just said that order is based on rules, but have you ever seen these rules? no, because no one has ever written them and no one has ever agreed with anyone, how can you talk about an order based on rules that no one has seen, well, from the point of view
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of common sense, this is nonsense, this is some kind of nonsense, but it is beneficial for those who promote this approach. because if no one has seen this, these rules, it means that those who talk about this come up with these rules themselves, from case to case in a way that suits their interests, this is the colonial approach, because colonial countries , they always believed that they were first-class people, because they always said that... they bring enlightenment to their colonies, that they are civilized people, and bring the benefit of civilization to other peoples, who are considered second-class people, that’s nothing
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what’s surprising is that today’s political elite, say in the united states, talks about its exclusivity, but this is a continuation of this... that is, when they say that we are exceptional in the united states, it means that it means that we are second , other people, all people of some other, second class, and how else to perceive this, these are the rudiments of colonial thinking, nothing else, our approach is completely different, we proceed from the fact that all people are equal, everyone has the same rights, and... the rights of freedom of one country and one people end where the freedom rights of another person or an entire state appear, this is how a multipolar world should gradually be born , this is exactly what we are striving for, this is what
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forms the basis of our interaction with china in the international arena, most recently, the expansion of the mechanism brix from five to eleven states, what do you think is a manifestation of what historical process is the expansion of brix? in addition, in 2024 russia will assume the chairmanship of this mechanism, what do you think is the role russia will play, and in the future brix, too, during their representations, well, firstly, i want to say that - the expansion itself was not easy, it was such a...' not an easy, i would even say, a difficult dialogue, but largely thanks to the efforts of our chairman, the president of the south african republic, mr. ramaphosa, i want to once again emphasize his role, we managed to find this consensus
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, we managed to agree on what lies at the heart of this expansion process, at the heart of this process. .. a multipolar world is being created in itself, in fact, we can speed up this process, we can , or someone can... try to slow it down, and maybe achieve some kind of reduction in the pace of building a multipolar world, but its consciousness is inevitable, it happens on its own, and it happens in connection with the growth of the potential of many countries, including, and not least, the growth of the potential of the chinese people's republics, india is growing in asia, indonesia is growing. many other states in latin america, brazil,
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russia are getting back on their feet and getting stronger, in all our countries have their own problems, and where they do not exist, there are always problems, this is not the point, the point is the growth of potential, and this growth, it is obvious, including in the economic sphere, that’s what concerns brix, at the time of the meeting. already the ratio of the economies of the seven countries, say, and the brics countries was in favor of the brics in terms of purchasing power parity. after the accession of six more brix members, the ratio became even greater in favor of the brix countries, but i repeat once again, this is a manifestation of the objective process of forming a multipolar world. this means that everyone who
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joined brix, they support this idea and concept, the formation of multipolar measures, no one wants to be on the sidelines of some sovereign, everyone wants equal relations, and they see, if they join brix, that within the framework of expansion, within the framework of strengthening such format, these are the relations between countries. we can achieve this goal faster by combining efforts. mr. president, you are very familiar with history, moreover, you even create this history yourself. you know, there is an opinion that some development models interstate relations, for example, realism, they did not contribute at all to solving the problems facing humanity.
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in terms of development, now at such a historical crossroads, as it seems to you, the ideas of comrade sidinpin about building a community with a common destiny for humanity, as well as his initiatives in the field of global development, global security, global civilizational initiative, what significance they have and what values they represent in your opinion? you know, thank you for talking about this remember why? because, as far as i understand, these ideas were formulated for the first time, well, in general terms, in my opinion, in 2013 during the chairman’s visit to moscow, and he spoke at the moscow state institute of international relations, for the first time he spoke about it there, of course , this is such a global approach to the history of mankind, of course, everything is interconnected, but today, when a multipolar world is being formed, these ideas have become even more relevant, he spoke about this in 2013, and today they are real
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are being implemented, this is extremely important, this is again, i want to now return to where i started, we are all together, and the chairmen, in particular, we are not guided by market considerations of the current moment, we are trying to think, assess the situation as a whole , look at the future in this sense too. of course, look, in the thirteenth year he spoke here about the formation of such a global world of relationships between the destinies of all countries and peoples on the planet, and then he came up with the initiative one train one way, but this is the practical implementation of what he was talking about, well, more or less in theoretical terms, it seems to me that consistency and movement towards common goals: with an awareness of the essence of the events taking place, but this distinguishes both
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the chairman and the politician of the prc, dear lord president, have you met with sidinpin already 40 times, what kind of person do you think , what kind of leader, mr. pin, maybe there are some stories you could share with us, who is associated, you know, the chairmen call me their friend. and i call him your friend. our people say: tell me who your friend is, and i will tell you who you are. there is such a deal. therefore, if i am now. i’ll try to be objective, this is, of course, one of the recognized world leaders, it’s good that you remembered, in fact, his speech
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this year, and i also connected this, you see, with... the idea of one train, one track, that is, you understand, that’s all - after all, a leader who does not, i repeat for the third time, but this is very important, does not make a seven-minute decision based on some current situation, he evaluates the situation, analyzes and looks into the future, this is very important, this is what distinguishes a real world leader from the people we call temporary workers who come for 5 minutes to show off on the international platform and also disappear unnoticed, of course, the chairman is a completely different person , he is a thorough, calm, but reliable business partner , so i would like to emphasize this, if we agree on something with him, we can be sure that our agreements will be fulfilled on
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both sides, and with regard to meetings ours, well, yes, there were a lot of them, that’s good. indeed, you probably counted, i don’t remember how many, but probably , probably 40 meetings, but there was a moment when i don’t remember what year, i think we were somewhere on otes, ah, in indonesia , maybe it was just my birthday, we celebrated my birthday with him, then in dushanbe at another event it was his birthday, we celebrated his birthday. during our joint work, we had a very good trip, the chairman visited russia, and then we went to st. petersburg, and we went to the cruiser aurora together, which means we rode a boat there on the niva river in st. petersburg
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, for a very long time, in detail, in an absolutely neutral, friendly atmosphere, we talked with him about bilateral relations, the situation in the world, maybe, probably, it was like that the most calm, friendly, friendly atmosphere, where we talked, i can say, went through all the issues, all the problems, discussed everything, it was very thorough, very calm, friendly, like a homely atmosphere, well, here it is i recently came in march, as you know, it was also a very good, business and... visit , which had very serious significance for the future development of our relations, so i hope that now, when the meeting is planned in china, this tradition will be continued, regarding the ukrainian issue, dear state posident, how do you see the prospects for a peaceful resolution of the ukrainian
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crisis when peace comes, and you also mentioned the chinese document on a political solution and yes, we are grateful to our chinese friends for what they think about how to stop this crisis, i nevertheless want to remind you that hostilities began in ukraine not with our special military operation, but much earlier, in 2014, when western countries, having acted as guarantors of the agreement between president yanukovych and the opposition, forgot about their guarantees literally a couple of days later and, moreover, contributed to a coup d'etat, and us administration officials directly stated that they spent a lot of money on this, i think 5 billion, they called it, now it should be like this happened, i won’t say now, a revolution is not a revolution
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, it’s not a color revolution, but it is a coup d’etat, yes, it was associated with mistakes... of the then current leadership, but still these mistakes had to be covered up not with the help of militants streets, with the help of democratic procedures, but western countries chose to act differently, contributed to the coup d'etat, and then, in fact, deployed the hands of the kiev regime, launched military operations in the south-east of ukraine, in the donbass, and 8 flew into these military operations, killing women and children, and no one in the west paid attention to this, or pretended not to notice, despite the fact that agreements were signed in the capital of belarus and minsk, which were called the minsk agreements, russia did everything to follow
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there is no way to resolve the conflict, and they did not allow this to be done, moreover, the leaders of ukraine , in the end, simply stated that they did not like these minsk agreements and were not going to implement them, all this coupled with the fact that the united nations started drag ukraine itself into nato and led to escalation of the conflict. let me remind you that when ukraine received its independence, or declared its independence, the fundamental document that formed the basis of independent ukraine was the declaration of independence. and the main thesis of this declaration of independence is that ukraine is a neutral state? no, in 2008. for some reason there was no crisis yet, they announced that ukraine was expected to join nato, why, still no one understands, and so from year to year, from
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year to year the situation was heated up, in in the end, the crisis of 2014 broke out, the fighting, all this led to the fact that this escalation reached a new level, so the start of a special military operation by russia is not the beginning of a war, it is an attempt to stop it, but as for how and what needs to be done to ensure that this conflict is ended by peaceful means, and we have never objected to this, moreover, we even agreed in istanbul at one time that we are ready for this, provided that i want to emphasize this legitimate interests of russia in the field of security, and there the ukrainian side drew a very strict framework for ensuring security and we practically agreed with this, but as soon as our troops departed from the capital of ukraine from kiev,
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the ukrainian side immediately threw all these agreements into the oven, and they were even initialed on paper by the heads of the negotiating sesterons, well, not this package itself, but a kind of memorandum, an agreement, everything announced that they would seek defeat by russia - victory on the battlefield, strategic defeat russia. now the military operations have begun, active, the so-called counter-offensive , which has been going on since june 4, so far there are no results, there are only huge losses, the losses are simply huge, approximately one in eight, if in ratio. well, we know, of course, the proposals of our chinese friends, we highly value these proposals, i believe that they are quite realistic, in any case they could
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be the basis for peace agreements, but unfortunately, the other side does not want to conduct any negotiations , moreover, the president of ukraine issued a decree prohibiting peace negotiations with us, everyone and himself. well, how can you negotiate if they don’t want it, and even documents have been issued, normative, which prohibits conducting these negotiations, so if the ukrainian side wants this, apparently they need to start by canceling this decree and announcing their readiness for these we are ready for negotiations, including using the proposal of our chinese friends.
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security, is there any opportunity to bring positions closer together on the ukrainian issue? yes we are we always talked about this too, we said that it is impossible, it is impossible to build the security of states alone. on the basis of undermining the security of others, everyone should be, security for everyone should be the same , in this regard , the non-aligned nature of ukraine is extremely important for us, but we were told, in 1991, by the previous us administration of that time, so to speak, that it would not there will be nato expansion to the east, after which five waves of expansion took place. five and each time we expressed our concerns, every time we were told, well, yes, we promised you not to expand the people's east, well, these
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are...' these were oral promises, but where is the piece of paper with our signature? there’s no piece of paper, that’s it, goodbye, that’s how, you know, how it’s very difficult to have a dialogue with such people , it’s difficult to have a dialogue, take, i’ve already given this example, the iranian nuclear program, we’ve been negotiating for a long, long time about the iranian nuclear program programs, agreed, reached a compromise. signed the documents, another administration came, all over again and threw everything in the trash, as if it had never happened these agreements, but how can we negotiate if everyone, every administration changes something from scratch , starts everything from the center of the field, well, this applies to any issue, concerns any topic, including the one we are discussing, so
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one of the key points is ... ensuring equal security for everyone, and russia has the right to this just like any other state, if we believe that nato expansion at the expense of ukraine creates threats for us, we ask that this be heard , thank you very much for the interview, thank you, i'm done it's a pleasure for the chinese viewers, listeners, i want to thank you from the bottom of my heart and convey my best wishes to the citizens of, uh, friendly china, the people's republic of china, thank you, what's the pin code? if a simple question has become a viikorina, it can help with appetite, it helps restore attention memory. let's get our head working. spare from alfabank
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let's return to one of the main topics of the big interview ahead of the form: international cooperation, vladimir putin answered questions from journalists from the china media corporation on the eve of his visit to china. in beijing , the russian president will take part in the one train one track forum. and he is expected to hold negotiations with chinese leader xidzenping. and in an interview, vladimir putin spoke about the basic principles of relations between the two countries, about the formation of a multipolar world and the progress of military specialization. details from anastasia ivanova. on the eve of the announced confidential meeting of the two.
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