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told my colleague pavel zarubin in an interview: another 600 million cubic meters of fuel will be sent to china, and hungary has already received a billion and 300 million cubic meters, but they plan to increase this figure. opponents of nato arms supplies to ukraine won the parliamentary elections in switzerland. according to the results of the first round, the democratic union of the center is in the lead; they advocate strict adherence to the country’s neutrality, they say that any support for kiev violates. principles of switzerland. and further, the broadcast of our tv channel will continue with the program, the fifth studio. i i welcome everyone who has joined us, indeed, now in the fifth studio we will discuss what is happening, the latest events unfolding in the middle east, of course, they are mainly related to the operation that the idf is conducting, which is carried out by israel, in relation not only to gas sector, but to neighboring states,
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so let's go through the news that just came in today, from information sources, from different, for example, the state department, this is naturally the united states, recommended americans should immediately leave lebanon with this wording, due to the unpredictable security situation , well, we’ve probably been seeing this picture for several days in a row, the israeli defense forces reported on the telegram channel that they again struck targets - as they formulated they themselves in a statement: belonging to the hezbollah movement on the territory of lebanon, reports otria news, having translated the relevant photographs, we will now discuss the situation, what is happening there now, what the ambassador of the russian federation in lebanon alexander nikolaevich rudakov, alexander nikolaevich, greetings, good morning, dmitry, alexander nikolaevich, well, really, we look at these photographs and these video frames, which are coming in almost every day, and
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there is a feeling that these are really bombings they continue persistently, they continue regularly, it is unlikely that they will somehow stop, how great is the destruction as a result, the israeli defense forces say that these are hezbollah objects, well, of course, there they make their statements, but where does it all end up? well, i can say that tension on the lebanese-israeli border has been observed since... this is the beginning of the escalation around the gas sector, that is, for almost 2 weeks, the parties have been exchanging blows, shelling each other’s military positions, all this can be said to be happening on a constant basis, moreover, for now everything is localized in the border areas or even the line of contact itself, so if we are talking about damage, then it is caused mainly military purposes in a limited space, with minimal, as far as we can judge, damage to civilian
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infrastructure, as for resettlement, the resettlement of civilians from the border areas of southern lebanon was not announced at the official level in beirut in lebanon, but at the same time we we heard that more than 1,300 people independently moved from the southern regions of lebanon to the center of the country, this, of course, indicates that the situation there is turbulent, people are afraid of further escalation, our citizens now there are a lot of russians in general... on the territory of lebanon, and are such scenarios possible , in which they could be in danger? so you say that now on the line of contact there are mainly battles and mostly shelling at these targets , but still, as far as i know, there are plenty of our citizens in this country, yes, you are right, there are 3,247 russians registered with the consular department of the russian embassy, ​​in reality there are much more of them, of course our compatriots as well... as the ordinary
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lebanese are worried about what is happening, i hope that it will still be possible to avoid a large-scale escalation, of course we cannot say that there will be no negative scenario, in this case there are definitely risks for our citizens, in this regard, as a preventive measure mit russia last week i recommended that russian tourists refrain from traveling to lebanon. for those russians who permanently reside in lebanon, i can say that beirut operates normally... the people’s airport, who has at least any fears about their personal safety, can freely leave lebanon on commercial flights, alexander nikolaevich, every day, again, analytics in western analytics, in our analytics, we are trying to probe some forecasts that would talk about how to proceed this situation will develop, there are different assessments that hezbollah can actually move.
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some kind of operation and israel is already making some statements about it, and quite harsh ones, someone says that no, it won’t dare, and so on and so forth, well, there are a lot of discussions going on right now. in this regard, really about how this escalation will go or not, a lot depends on this in general, the development of the entire situation in the middle east, this is what the country’s authorities are saying now, the lebanese authorities, about further conflict scenarios, what is in general , hezbollah’s military political strategy, in particular, well, first of all, it should be noted that the lebanese authorities are in favor of an early end to the conflict over gas and delivery. yes homo help before in total, lebanon’s right to respond in the event of external aggression is confirmed, at the same time , the official government is trying with all its might to prevent further escalation, which could have catastrophic consequences for the country, thus, in our interpretation, lebanon’s position boils down to
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the fact that now all diplomatic efforts should be aimed at a ceasefire in gaza, launching a negotiation process between the israelis and palestinians, this is immediately... tension with russia in the liva in the israeli direction and normalizes situation, but still, if we talk about hezbol, yes, then there, what statements are being made basically, what they expect and how - i don’t know myself now, they are positioning there, leading, well, if you know, talk about what what is the military and political strategy, yes, in relation to israel, but as for me... the ambassador of the russian federation in lebanon, it would be somewhat unethical to give such assessments, what it is, this is most likely a matter for specialized specialists, who are more free in their judgments, but i note for now it is not clear that hezbollah wanted to drag israel into a large-scale confrontation or would itself strive for confrontation. as i already
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said, the strikes are being carried out against military targets, mainly in the area of ​​​​the so-called sheba farms. the lebanese consider them their territory, which is occupied by israel. in other words. we are, at least at the moment , still talking about a rather calibrated confrontation in which no one wants to go too far, at the same time both the lebanese government and samah izwala are constantly calling for an end to the military actions against gas, therefore the tension that is being created on the lebanese-israeli border can probably be characterized as an element of a strategy to restrain the israelis from radical steps against the palestinians, as we see, more than once announced by the israeli command on the ground... in the gaza strip, it hasn't started yet. this of course does not mean that hezbollah’s strategy is working, but at a minimum, it does not provide additional reasons for the spiral of violence in southern lebanon to spiral further. alexander nikolaevich, in society, what now the mood is, we see
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demonstrations all over the world in support of gas throughout the arab world and not only the arab world, in fact, in lebanon, what now, what are people saying? well, you see, it’s clear that this is the majority. the lebanese are sympathized with by the palestinians; many directly support the palestinian units that are fighting, believing that these actions are of a defensive and liberating nature. it is not surprising, therefore, that dramatic incidents involving rocket attacks on a hospital in the gaza strip and christian churches in the gaza strip gas, which led to massive civilian deaths, caused such a colossal negative reaction throughout the world, including in lebanon. crowds of activists picketed outside the us and french embassies, accusing these countries of pandering to israel. westerners were called upon to stop providing military and political assistance to tel aviv, which, as protesters say, encourages the israelis to take radical steps against the palestinians. at
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the moment, the situation is more or less stable in lebanon itself, but tension remains. many western embassies, as you noted earlier, called their citizens immediately. abandon lebanon, they are apparently afraid not so much of the expansion of lebanon by the israeli front, but of the angry reaction of ordinary lebanese against these citizens, and not here yet, of course, about how countries now look at what is happening, how they are trying or not trying, on the contrary to resolve this situation, we can probably cite as an example the international summit on a peaceful settlement, just in gaza, which took place in egypt, but it ended, many admit, inconclusively and inconclusively it ended precisely because the western countries and the countries of the arab world have absolutely no mutual understanding, and , as diplomats say, they could not reach any common ground
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, well, it’s unlikely that many people are saying that, that it’s hardly possible at all now, the mood is very harsh, because there was a lebanese delegation, by the way, well , unfortunately, the lebanese did not take part in cairo... it’s up to you to judge uh why by what reasons they did it, well enough difficult, but nevertheless, here we were convinced that , indeed, as you correctly noted, there was no international consensus on gas at the cairo summit. the reason is clear to everyone. the us-led western bloc is not ready to advocate an immediate ceasefire and delay making the necessary decisions. well, the same situation was as we observed last week in the un security council, where the westerners first blocked the adoption of a balanced russian draft resolution, and then washington single-handedly pushed for the brazilian draft as well. it's clear. that the americans did not add such an irresponsible policy of self-love either in lebanon or
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in the entire middle east region. it’s clear that you yourself are saying, and this is quite understandable, this is quite expected, that many lebanese sympathize with what is happening now in the gas sector and of course they sympathize more with the people who now find themselves in a catastrophic situation there, in connection with with this... does lebanon send humanitarian aid, as it does, maybe the country is really ready to accept some part of the internally displaced persons, of which there are a lot now from the gaza strip, well, again i have to say that unfortunately, lebanon in its current crisis state cannot provide humanitarian assistance to the palestinians, moreover, the situation here is such that the lebanese themselves need external help, and about that it will definitely happen. question if today ’s lebanese-israeli border confrontation nevertheless develops into other
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regions of the country, but such a disappointing assessment can be given based on the possible movement of palestinians from the gaza strip to lebanon, which has been providing shelter to hundreds of thousands of refugees from palestine for many decades. in recent years, the country has also hosted 2 million syrian citizens after the war in syria and the country can hardly afford to accept. how would it be possible to carry out the relocation of palestinian refugees at the moment, based purely on the geographical location of the two countries. obviously, the optimal solution, and this was especially emphasized in cairo by the leaders of israel’s neighbors, egypt and jordan, would be to quickly stabilize the gas supply and prevent a mass outflow from there palestinian population, and this is exactly the version of politics.
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russia, both in contacts with regional partners and on the platforms of the security council, alexander nikolaevich, thank you for agreeing to answer our questions, alexander rudakov, russian ambassador to lebanon, was live on the fifth studio on the russia 24 tv channel, well, by the way, one of the answers to the question why now, indeed, the bulk of refugees from the gas sector go to the south, and not to other directions, and there, among other things, the question arose, why to lebanon, for example, they are not coming, in particular because of this, these are leaflets that are now being dropped over gaza by israeli forces, there is such a wording there that everyone who remains in gaza and does not go south can be neutralized as a member of a terrorist organization to the south, about what the situation is now in the gas sector, we are talking about this with our colleague, a journalist in contact with us , taryk, we welcome you, hello,
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hello, we know that you tried to evacuate and that you didn’t succeed , now you continue to stay in the gas sector, please tell us how the situation is there now, how realistic it is from a humanitarian , from a human point of view, there is now a catastrophic situation there, last night 400 people died in one day, more than 400, 4,700 people have died since the beginning of the escalation, more than 14,000 injured, this is in general, the data that was yesterday at 12 at night, which was transmitted to the ministers, the humanitarian situation is a terrible situation, lack of electricity, lack of water in hospitals,
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toblovo, no medicines, doctors are doing operations without anesthesia, and this is how you can quickly describe the situation, well, the trucks that were that entered the gas sector were only 34 - 34 trucks, this is from humanitarian aid, this is nothing, it must be considered that less than three percent, which every day uh , went out to the sector. on the egyptian side, every day on the egyptian side, in normal situations, 500 trucks entered the gas sector, that’s 34 , that’s not it, people have no water at all, not stupid, uh, queues for water last three, four hours, queues for bread also in stores
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supplies are running out, the situation is very critical, and if this continues, i think that people will not find anything to eat, especially the diseases that began to appear in the centers where people were evacuated, in schools in the centers of the organization , he, too, diseases appear, the situation is very critical, please tell me, before, until today, if we trace the situation that... on october 7, it was developing, we witnessed that, for example, those humanitarian convoys that helped people evacuate, for example, to the same egypt, they were also subjected to shelling , i’m right, that is, this road, which many people choose as the road of salvation, yes, it is also far from safe, well, of course, far from safe, the first day when they indicated
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, tahal told people to evacuate to the south, the day they beat a convoy of people died on the spot, 70 people died on the spot and several more people died later, they died later in hospitals, and it is noteworthy to say that most of the dead uh, recently, this is in the southern part of the gaza sector, where people were indicated, where they were ordered to evacuate, the strikes continue , every day, every minute, every day, every minute the strikes continue, houses fall on people without warning, people remain under the rubble and even massive the cemetery is already uh, they will bury unknown people, 34 already unknown people were buried yesterday, 43
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people who are unknown, and more, most of the dead, this is in the south... what kind of tariq are they now and is it really possible to say about this, that any really there there are, i’m talking about international humanitarian organizations that are called upon to help people, who are called upon to send their doctors or paramedics to work in such crisis places, what kind of charities there are, i don’t know, humanitarian organizations are now working in the gas sector, which ones have arrived recently ? who arrived, no one came, the humanitarian organization that works in the gas sector, it’s just him who opened - its centers, its schools for evacuated people who were forced to their homes, and they give little, very little, sometimes they give them
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something to eat or something, they give very little. because before the war, even before the search, they always said that they had a financial crisis, other organizations that were located in gas worked like doctors without borders, like doctors in france, and other such medical organizations, they had a supply of medicine, a supply - toblova, they transferred all this to the gas sector, yesterday... he called on all people, everyone - he will refuel, whoever has a liter of gasoline, 1 liter, whoever has it, please bring it to the hospitals, because hospitals soon everyone will stop, because israel does not allow it, from egypt the fuel that was in the gas sector is already running out and 10 hospitals,
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there are still 10 hospitals, they have all stopped, they cannot work, according to your estimates, how long can the gas sector exist in this regime, when it receives neither fuel nor water, when it is in a state of blockade and when there is no opportunity for local people to receive medical care, which is really needed every day many, well, hospitals, i think hospitals are at the end. within 48 hours, everyone will no longer work, they don’t have enough warm water, and people, people, how to hold on, they people will always
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hold on, but what should they do, where should they go, people have no one to go anywhere, they will be there and will adapt, to grow what to eat, to eat, what to eat, and where can people go, where can people go, nowhere, so everything remains in place, people stay, no one leaves, people who are in egypt, more than 4,000 people who leave now abroad, they are all in the sinai peninsula, they all want to return, everyone is waiting for the opening of the kbb, even i want to say that today it was announced that thousands of people from the southern part of sektorgaz are returning to the northern part, they say that there are no houses , there’s nothing, we won’t be there, because there are no more clocks in the south, we’re nowhere, it’s already 10 days, we can’t stay any longer, and people started returning to the northern areas, blows, but they’re already
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coming back, that is, in principle, we can say that people got into this way a trap in which they say in plain text, let’s give an example again, everyone who remains in gas and does not go south can be neutralized as a member of a terrorist organization, because the same leaflets are pouring in from above, well, of course, of course they are, they announce sugar like this, every day, they announce sugar, but the people, i say that more than half of the people who lived in the northern part of the gaza strip stayed there, some in their homes, some in hospitals, some in uh, with friends, in schools, he, but more than 5000, mi left the northern part, they just don’t... have nowhere to go, the gas sector is the most populated place on the continent, on the planet, but where are these million people, where will they be,
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where will they be, where will they be, first days, people spent the night for days, two, three on the streets, they just spent the night on the streets, so they prefer to go back and die , as they say, we’ll die in our home, it’s better than me messing around on the street, thank you very much, really these are the questions you ask, they are still unanswered, yes, tara kalyan, a journalist, our colleague who is in the gas sector, described to us the whole situation that is now developing there, this was the fifth studio, well, let's get back to the discussion.
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