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[000:00:00;00] to help throughout the year, this car belonged to my grandmother, everything is for the front, everything is for victory, so we’re working on it, it united the nation, everyone worries about those who are here
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and helps in any way they can. according to my desire, according to my desire, i want to, well, see the city, then go ahead, i want winter to become summer, it worked out, wait , i want to marry the tsar’s daughter, come on, that’s just me, i ’m just warming up, that the tsar’s daughter is a fish my, by pike order, the russian cosmonauts, oleg kononenko and nikolai chuba, are scheduled to go into space today outer space, they are now on the international space station as part of one of the longest scientific missions. hero of russia, oleg kononenko heads this mission in orbit, he will stay for more than a year upon completion
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, he will become the absolute world record holder, before the launch of the union, which sent an international crew to the station, my colleague anna lazareva spoke with the famous cosmonaut and his loved ones. contact has been made, good. the design parameters of the launch vehicle are normal, there are aliens, i also think that there is, you didn’t see anyone, i didn’t see, there is a feeling that they are watching you there, well , except from the ground, no, there is no feeling, but
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the truck compartment. from which we go out into outer space, half of the earth and the black sky are visible, when i turn off the light, fly up to the porthole, my eyes are reflected, the feeling that i am looking there, someone is looking at me from below with my mind, i understand that this is it’s me, it’s my reflection, the reflection of my eyes, but a chill passes through my skin, oleg, well, first of all... i want to ask you about the mission, with which you are flying, well, we are flying to carry out the program, the federal space program in terms of manned space, that is, to do scientific experiments, in some places to repair the station, for me this is an ordinary flight, the fifth, but in terms of preparation it is unusual, because it lasted quite a long period , for 2 years, for objective reasons, because in december there was an accident on
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the soyuz ship degrammatization external. contour, so we had to train for an additional six months, that is, we practically repeated you will spend all the training in these six months, more than a year, this is the first time this has happened, no, this is probably, if my memory serves me right, this will be the fourth annual flight in general in history, i understand correctly that they are telling you from the ground what you will do , you don’t have any kind of freedom to act on the station, no, there are days like this, for example, the earth gives us rest, assuming that we ’ll sleep for a day, naturally we don’t sleep for a day. we get up, well, as if the earth here does not disturb us, does not cause a connection, and we can, let's say, call home, eat, drink some, watch a movie there, and so we live strictly according to a schedule, i would call it a patagonal system, which means that at the end of each week we are given a detailed plan for the next week, at the end of the month a detailed plan for the entire coming month, and every day radiograms are sent with an exact time schedule
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of what we were supposed to do and we are obliged to complete all the work on time, if we did not have time to do something somewhere, then the earth will analyze why the radiogram is bad, the equipment is not like that, so here you need to be very careful, obligatory and do everything quickly. term, after this flight you will be the world record holder for the time spent in orbit, how do you feel about this, you are trying, well, it seemed to me, to even get away from this topic, somehow, well, you’ll think there, well, you won’t think about it, of course , seriously, a thousand days in orbit, if it works out, but uh , i don’t care at all, because this is my job, my favorite job, this is what i do, that is , the numbers are not significant for you, no, absolutely, these things are significant for medicine, because a person was in space for so... a long time, they will examine me in more detail and thoroughly, but even if a person has flown for 200 days, this does not detract from his merits and dignity, some kind of
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honoring is expected after, i don’t really like all sorts of celebrations on board, there are birthdays, but after all, relatives , friends, colleagues come out, you listen to a lot of laudatory words about yourself and somehow feel awkward, especially when you know, after all, the new year is a family one holiday when we they say: how great it is that you are on board on such a holiday, i listen to all this, i think how i would now change with you, so that you were here, i would be with my family. this is very often present, when such, well, white envy seems to be expressed, that you want to be on board at this time, but are you thinking about something else, about your family after all? well, of course, family is the most important thing? well i think so. in all areas of our lives, dad is involved
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both as a motivator and teacher and simply as a dad, that is, he supports, helps with advice, therefore, when you let him go, of course, no one can replace this function, the most exciting moment is probably when you need to part with everything, that is , in no way can you approach, touch, hug, well, probably the start itself, what qualities should possess an astronaut's wife? with patience, what patience gives, patience, wait, wait, until, well, always wait, zero-gravity flights, you wait, jumping , i’ll ask some kind of aquatic survival, they tell you that yes, i’m going to such and such test, you sit, wait, but i don’t i know, you’re worried, well, of course you’re worried, or you’ve already hardened yourself, you’ve already hardened yourself,
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well, i’m just confident in everything about my husband. about cosmonautics, you are inside, how do you currently assess the state of russian cosmonautics? good question, the main thing is that we are still flying into space , the main thing is that we are launching rockets, the main thing is that the industry is trying to somehow develop in these conditions, and maybe i would like it to be more intense, faster, but interesting young people who study at universities continue unabated, i think that in the end we we will pass such a turning point, well, astronautics will get a second wind, but for now we are still developing, we have plans, we are designing a new orbital station, we are designing a new ship, a new
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basic module is also already being made, so there is still such a prospect, optimism , is it possible for development and modernization in such large projects as space, exclusively within... the country, how important is international cooperation? well, my personal opinion, if we of course want to reach the moon and achieve some serious success there or mars, then from my point of view this is of course an international project, because it is very expensive and it is necessary to unite minds, intellects and technologies, because even if you take the orion spacecraft, which is made by the americans, not only americans participate in it, the service module makes the european space agency. there, as you know, there are more than a dozen countries involved in long-distance navigation, communications are made by the japanese space agency, that is, they have such a ship, not purely american, so of course, in international cooperation
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a great prospect, but this should not exclude the creation of national means, the introduction of national ships, national stations, but such global projects as the resettlement of humanity, at least within the solar system, it seems to me that one country will not be able to handle it in any way will it be more effective? and productive along the public or private path, as happened, for example, with spacex, well , the spacex company just makes money, which the company does not have a fundamentally new ship created, so she just made a ship using centuries-old technology, but from the point of view of some kind of technological breakthrough, there is nothing like that, it seems to me that fundamental science will never be financed by private capital, but who needs a nuclear collider from private companies , to no one, because this will not bring any immediate returns, also astronautics, of course, the main investments should be from the state,
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because we fly, and we do mostly fundamental experiments on the iss, which will give a return in the foreseeable future, but not in the near future, so private business that will finance some kind of serious scientific experiments, understanding that scientists may simply make a mistake and go in the wrong direction, only by the state, nothing else, let's talk about let’s talk about technology, russia is now technologically behind those... the united states, china, how do you assess, well, it’s difficult for me to judge, in part of china, because what i observe is there on the internet, on youtube, in telegram channels, video from the chinese station, the spacesuits are almost identical to our arlan spacesuit , the internal structure of the station is a symbiosis of the american and russian segment, even when chinese astronauts go into outer space, they use insurance as per the rules... of the russian segment of the american segment, just like
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and the shenzhou ship, it is much larger, because the launch vehicle can still launch a large mass, but in essence, the way everything is arranged, this is the soyuz ship, the americans are at the iss station, why are they they invited us, they couldn’t, they stopped flying in space for a long time in the seventies, they started making the shaat program, they forgot how to work and live for a long time in space, so they needed us for a very long time..." there was no life support at the station russian, now of course they have made their own systems, but again taking into account our experience , there are two toilets at the station, both russian, although ours in our segment the americans have improved our toilet from the point of view of ergonomics, of course, they somehow made it more beautiful, but this is our russian toilet, so at the moment, no breakthrough technologies have been created in space, of course, we are lagging behind in terms of launching the number of satellites, small satellites, satellites
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for various purposes, maybe we are lagging behind somewhere here, of course, but i don’t see such a fundamental lag, so who will you be with us, the main flight engineer, then in the left? this is good for you, because i’m in the central one, i’m like a commander , what, my god, 3, m, normal, 3, m, yes , i’ll take a meter per person, so, well, you’re here you will still control the spaceship, like this, your legs, correctly, put on the footrest, then there are these, uh, knee pads, so that your legs, as if during the take-off, at the start, so that they don’t jump out of the puddle, don’t
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smashed, well... you connect, here i can control the ship as a whole, and where is the steering wheel, here they are my handles, that is, i extend them and control them with these handles, that is , this and this is the handle for lowering, in this form , here we are lying down and starting, is there a release for the head drain? now we are entering the main base unit of the russian segment of the international space station, i always sleep in the left cabin, i call it the cabin with a view of moscow, so we have such subscriber consoles, yeah, here are 1, 2, 3, four and in pho in prk, and you can put on headphones here, but how do you feel when you are being watched? on the american segment they are watching, there are permanent cameras, on the russian segment we don’t have
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cameras, you take the ptt button, we talk on the first line, the so-called speaker, you keep pressing, click here, and speak here, and what are you saying, well, it’s normal, i’m saying, if i call, then moscow’s soup will answer the iss, the feeling of weightlessness is cool, then that’s it in general, it ’s just me, as it were, i’m stuck in weightlessness, i can’t in it... i’m done i've been jumping up and down for a while now, hanging out and jumping up and down, and i really like it. this is the table at which we eat, here there is a system for regenerating water from condensate, this is, roughly speaking, the teapot from which we are a teapot, this is where we do everything, experiments, and live and eat, but there are
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also other modules, but this let's just say like this the main thing, well, it feels like it’s a bit cramped, but no, you get used to it normally, first of all. i flew alone on the last expedition for 105 days for the entire russian segment, what are you saying, that’s why it’s somehow normal you have 2-3 years between expeditions there this time and you miss this place, i always arrive at the station with great pleasure and i fly away with regret i really don’t have such a thing that i ’m full of the expedition and i’m just leaving with this , of course i’m glad that i’m returning to my family, but there is some regret, because you don’t know will you come back or... not, because after all it depends on his health. does space take away your health? well, it doesn’t add up, that’s for sure. and when i arrive at the station, almost from the first day i begin to prepare for my return, but i do physical exercises so that my muscles do not lose volume, they are in good shape, i run on
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a treadmill, spin a bicycle to maintain my bones, skeletons everything else, that is , everything turns out very strange, on the ground i prepare for weightlessness, while in orbit i i’ve been preparing to return from the very first day, when you were a newbie, what struck you most, i don’t know, on the way to the station or the station itself, just remember some of your first vivid impressions, the most vivid impression was that it was the size of the earth, when i first saw the earth from the outside, i , of course, this may sound daring, i did not agree with yuri alekseevich gogarin, our land is not small and not fragile, it is very large. yes, secondly, i don’t know why the earth is called earth, most of it trajectory flies over the ocean, i would call it water, water, yes, the planet of water, in order to fly into space, what should i prepare for, besides accumulating a sufficient amount, but it seems to me that you don’t need any preparation, you just
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you need to have the necessary amount and you will be taught and prepared for everything , but the first thing, of course, will test your vestibular stability, that’s because when... well , coriolis chairs, because this is very important, how do you yourself see the future of the iss, and really or, as some say, is the station outdated? the station is not getting younger, but it is really being modernized, for example, here is a simple, simple example, the light of the shuttle and the soyuz shuttle is made in such a way that the americans in the eighty-first year made it in 2011 and realized that its modernization would cost much more than the development of a new ship, since the twelfth year, they stopped all flights, they simply stopped, our union,
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it is structurally possible to constantly modernize it, we are constantly changing the instrumentation, from my point of view... the station will not be heated in the thirty-first year, i think every effort will be made to preserve this unique laboratory in orbit, but this does not exclude the possibility of developing other areas, it will all depend on finances, but in my opinion, the station will not be sunk, it will be maintained for as long as possible , are there alternatives to this station, or maybe it will appear in the near future? well , the americans have an alternative - this is the creation of a lunar station from which they will land on the moon, this is a station from the russian part of the creation of the russian orbital station. but there is some news regarding the russian orbital station, a preliminary design has been completed, all interested parties of the enterprise have written their comments, by the end of the summer, in the fall, these comments should be considered, the preliminary design should be approved, after which
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the stage of developing documentation will be completed to the government and we need funding for the next stage, but the preliminary design is already for a new station. it differs from the iss in terms of inclination, in terms of the fact that it will be an open configuration, that is, any an outdated or damaged module will be easily replaced with a new one, we were thinking about china and the united states, who do you think is our main competitor now? some external factors may interfere with us, but if everything works out for us, then it will be very difficult to compete with us with those people who live on the territory of russia, because we have different... nationalities, we have very smart, talented children. , and we are generally a nation of smart, talented people, you name it, all the fundamental discoveries have been made either russian people or people who lived on the territory of russia, we are interested in doing something that no one in the world has ever done, in discovering something that no one in the world has ever discovered, and then in order to bring it to a corrupt sample and learn how to sell, we
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are not interested in that, even if we take everything that the stations have, we have done it simpler, smarter, they have it more complicated, maybe sometimes you look and think, what kind of engineers are they, it’s so difficult to design a spacesuit, we have done it all much simpler and much more savvy, so who can defeat us? ... competes with for us, it’s quite difficult to cooperate , just cooperate, despite their education, despite their - there are california institutes of technology, massachusetts institute of technology, but our children are smarter students. you already mentioned colonization at one time, in my opinion, the soviet union relied on the program for studying venus, and the united states relied on the martian programs, but in your opinion, the colonization of which planet would be the most promising? well, as everything has already
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been determined, that is, of course, to live on the moon without atmosphere is impossible, hard radiation is difficult, on venus, at the surface level there are 400 atmospheres, so it is very difficult to survive there, venus is simply of interest from the point of view of studying, developing technology, working in such difficult conditions, if we live somewhere, then probably on mars, well, we are talking about such a peaceful colonization, but still it’s not a coincidence , probably, but there is one and... and the movie star wars, yes, do you think star wars in general is possible, well, i didn’t want to would, but moving the war into space is quite likely and truthfully, the decision is issued to the un that not to put weapons into space, not to put nuclear weapons into space, not to shoot down other people’s satellites, but i think, probably, someday this could still happen, there is an idea, that astronauts are... countries and i don’t know, some exorbitant salaries , maybe contracts, something else, if you
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can talk about this, tell us, well, i’d really like it if we were really some elite, at least the technical elite of the country, periodically roscosmos tries to raise our salaries and this it turns out that at the moment of raising they seem to correspond to at least our expectations, but still this is not the level that we would like to have, there are problems with the apartment. of course, i would like for the state to return to the principle of allocating apartments, as it was in the soviet union , that is, a person flew into space for him, so that the state would provide him with the conditions that he deserves, because we have cosmonauts with many children, three, four children, respectively, live in apartments that seem to be small for such a family, an extreme situation in space, what the most dangerous stage is, well, any way out is still like that. a very serious matter, quite dangerous, despite this, astronauts always want to go into outer space, but at every
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stage the system is designed in such a way that there are means to save the astronaut, so there is a risk, but the risk is conscious, you understand that at some stage the automation may not work, you may make some erroneous actions, but the fact is that you are at any stage of the flight, that in space the ship, during the launch in the orbital section, the flight descents, that at the station, everything is provided, everything is there, all the means are provided, everything is there to stay alive, it’s there. space has changed you, good question, i never thought about it, it seems to me, no, i just learned to value time, and that’s probably all, because time is very fleeting. oleg, today we presented a new tradition that will appear, as i understand it, as if already among the detachment
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of our cosmonauts, as i understand it, this idea was born when - yuri ivanovich borisov discussed with konstantin khabensky that we let's take it into space, what kind of indicator of weightlessness, they had this idea , why not, let's say , introduce a group of astronauts to high art, start with us, but as i understand it, this is not only... viewing, not only you they will invite you to premieres, khatov’s, but then a certain symbol will appear, a new one, who will fly into orbit with you, am i right? yes, well, taking into account the fact that this year is the 125th summer, so this idea arose, to take the symbol of the theater as an indicator of weightlessness, this is a seagull, in general i want to talk about superstitions and omens, which astronauts have, and you tell me what’s true, what’s not, what’s true, what’s not , autographs on... hotel rooms, we sign, yes, getting a haircut before a flight, there is such a tradition, looking at the white solstice before the launch is performed by everyone,
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take a sip of champagne at breakfast before the start. symbolically, a friendly kick from the authorities, and this is unambiguous, it happened probably since the time of gagarin, there is such a thing, maybe we missed some signs, superstition will accept traditions, we missed it, we go to the wheel, the thing is that when i first came to baikonor as a backup, looking at so many rituals, i thought, i probably won’t do any of this, but when i arrived in the main crew, when i had already completed training... on a real rocket, i thought that those people who did this, they returned healthy and unfaithful, alive, but it doesn’t cost me anything to do this, oleg, ah, this flight will be your, as you call it, your last, yes you are you kidding me or what? no, no, i want to fly, but we they are selected by age, you must be selected
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until you are 35 years old, inclusive, and then no temporary ones. not only your health and desire, that’s all, so if i go through medical school, why not, then you will understand that you have exhausted yourself in the profession, you have become uninterested, only after that should you leave, you have not exhausted yourself in the profession, no, absolutely , and you are very interested, so far , yes, you are setting yourself some kind of goal, of course, i would still like to make sure on the moon that the earth is round, but i don’t know, i’m fully i can’t see the earth from a height of 400 km, i see only half of the earth, maybe it’s on... an elephant, elephants on whales, work on the moon, look at the earth from the side, in general it’s like getting more distant from the moon, but in space it’s cool when you go into space, for example, i like to play around in this way, when i have minutes, the earth says that i can rest a little, i always check my carbines that they are securely docked and push off from the station structure, turn towards the ground, and when i don’t i don’t see
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any structural elements, it feels like you’re alone, and you start to fly into this space, well, of course, there’s a little bit of adrenaline, you start to move, check whether there are carabiners, no, but the feeling is unforgettable, i do this sometimes, of course, you’ll miss this
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, i understand you, thank you very much over time, russia is a country of which we are proud, we are proud to bring light and warmth throughout the world, we look forward with pride, paving new paths in the oceans and overcoming gravity, we are proud of our successes, but never. .. open for the achievements of our country,
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come to the forum russia exhibition. in so many years, 23 years have passed in washington, and the treaty has not been ratified , but of course there is no point for russia to participate in this imitation any further. the federation council approved the law to revoke the ratification of the comprehensive nuclear test ban treaty. is the country proud of you? i hope your family will see and recognize it. they will definitely see how sergei shaigu awarded the fighters of the
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vostok group, among whom there are now two more heroes

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