[000:00:00;00] barel, at some point it might seem that this is an old tab , some two or three months ago , because it’s exactly the same text, which means there is an easy way to end this war, this is for ukraine to capitulate, this is all of us already i heard there many times, bulgakov is a theatrical novel, and why write a new one when there is so much good old one, and everything, when everything, when everything is already there, but what interested me in this speech was his phrase about the fact that you... you know, well, he didn’t start there somehow in my opinion, it’s quite ill-mannered and rude to talk about orban, get personal and insult hungarians in general as a people, and then he said that no one keeps hungary in the european union, this is actually a very interesting statement, because these are two very different political figures : orban, you can sympathize with him, you can hate him, you can perceive him in any way you like, but this is a person who actually enjoys great legitimacy

. this is not the first time, this is not a temporary worker, this is not someone who is alone elections shot, the next no one remembers his name, he shows time after time that his policies enjoy the support of the population, then how mr. barel took the position of chief diplomat of the european union is a mystery both for joseppe barel himself and for the european union as well , that is, these mechanisms, how is this person, how is he specifically responsible for something, for what do any of his statements even make sense? which are not, the collision of these two figures shows that big things are actually happening in europe changes, and these changes take place on the political field, naturally, in my opinion there are three levels, the first is the most transparent, the most visible to us, what the average person sees on tv, in the news, the forces that previously won in the elections begin to defeat maybe they didn’t show it, or they couldn’t show such a result a year ago

, we see there, say, the alternative for germany gains more votes, fitsos wins the elections in slovakia. this is an absolutely obvious trend for us. there is a level a little deeper, this is a systemic crisis of the existing mainstream party systems of european countries. it ’s quite difficult to see it so directly on the news or on tv, but it’s quite obvious that both the ruling parties and the opposition ones. parties in european countries are faced with the fact that they cannot serve the interests of the population, so one-day parties are forced to constantly begin to appear , parties appear where the leader is a person who had practically no self-esteem before proven, in order to immediately respond to the needs of the population here now, to fill this vacuum at the elections, but given that there are not enough serious structures among these parties, they then begin to immediately go into oblivion again, this is such a second

level, when and about it is not visible at all, but it is predictable, well, at least it seems so to me, we understand that those structural changes, i’m afraid to talk about economics, but those structural changes that are now happening there in the european economy, those crises with which they there are facing, in my opinion, primarily hitting the notorious middle class, that is , if it turns out to be much more difficult for people there to get a mortgage. they have to pay a lot of money for electricity, for housing and communal services, for other things, well, phenomenal figures, they are actually huge, then we are talking about a reduction in the middle class, where there is less of a middle class, changes in the party system absolutely begin, and how as a rule, historically, when a crisis begins in the middle class, the first

signs of the emergence of dictatorships, and as a rule, on the right side, this is the first reaction of societies in europe, this often happened historically and this happened, which means the next thing i want to say in this regard is that you touched on a very important topic, you were talking so far with karan georgivich, i also started to think about this, about how the americans will now react to the situation in ukraine, i may say something to romolny, i personally think that for the americans it’s a loss for us, look at this with our own eyes loss in ukraine - this is a disaster , it’s not that i’m sure that there will be no country left, god forbid, if this is not unambiguous, one hundred percent perceived by the population as a victory in the world , perceived as a victory, but if there is no such result, the country will have a very difficult time with to cope with this, for the americans to lose in ukraine, i honestly don’t really understand why this should be a disaster for them, if they could lose to the taliban in afghanistan and generally calmly abandon their

people, leave, leave, throw it at someone, say, that... a wonderful preparation in the form of the next elections, any next candidate will say, it’s not me, it’s me, here you go, they trusted the wrong administration, they got this result, as a last resort, well, this is not their war, well in reality, for them this does not have such a critical significance, it seems to me that they can quite afford to come out of this conflict as losers, we naturally cannot afford this, because for us this is an ontological confrontation, they are not participating there, they are they speak like ukrainians, that’s all there, yes, and here for us, that’s the question i would like to pose, it seems to me that the key question is, what is a victory for the russian

federation, let’s say how they perceive the victory of russia, barel, i read his statement, he says that the surrender of ukraine will mean that russia has installed a puppet government in kiev, and russian troops are on the border with poland, i don’t really understand what this means, that is. at the same time, ukraine exists, but for some reason russian troops are on the territory of this ukraine are, or does he mean that ukraine no longer exists and it’s just there, i don’t know if the governor-general is sitting there or someone else, but it’s very important for us, it seems to me, at least at the level of public discourse to come to consensus, which is a victory for us, because it has been said many times in this studio, i want to repeat this thesis , in fact, look how they take advantage of the situation, that since the start of the special military operation we have freed 11 million people or more returned to the squad of our country, our army shows phenomenal results in the fight against the nato army around the world in the information space, they constantly create the thesis that russia, having achieved the goals

of a special military operation, has not managed its sea again to become internal russian. the question is that we define for ourselves what we consider victory to be, and that we articulate this very clearly. supreme head. said, this is not a question of territory, but of security, one remark can be inserted, henry, you understand why the difference between afghanistan, in my understanding, because for the americans, the victory of russia in ukraine is not only a victory for russia, but it is a victory for china, this did not happen in afghanistan, for a narrow democratic stratum, and the republicans now have another speaker, again fun, elected finally, champagne, today you said that there are different points of view in the program, here i am, dear, today is the case when i don’t agree with you, but i don’t agree on the dotted line,

because i want to talk about something else, so literally in a nutshell, you don’t see the hand of the united states in the unfolding crisis in the middle east, in my understanding, it is there, very strong and on an ever-increasing scale, i did not say that it is not there. the united states of america incites conflicts everywhere and will continue to incite them, because they fight only with money, so he says that the united states will not fight one, two, three wars, they fight with money, and they can produce money now in any quantities, this is for it's not a problem for them, but i wanted to talk a note on the computer, a line , you don’t even need to type, i wanted to talk about morality, here is the queen of jordan, she talks about the double standards of the west, but in essence double standards are morality. or its absence, this is moral, and this is immoral, that is, in essence, this is the meaning of double standards, in what we are now seeing between jews and arabs, of course,

it is very difficult for many to maintain a balanced view, a cold mind i can’t keep someone, nikolay, don’t offend me, a little bit between the israelis and the arabs, here between the arabs and israelis yes, because firstly, not all israelis are jews. and not all jews are israelis, of course, the amendment is absolutely fair, some cannot even maintain neutrality, well , the situation is really very complicated, some do not try to be neutral at all, look, turkey completely sides with palestine, well, we it’s clear why, but there are no questions here, the united states of america completely immediately sides with israel, why? well , because israel is a kind of protectorate the united states of america, their outpost in the middle east, they finance it, they naturally don’t want it... they support it immediately, for example, other countries demonstrate, but i would say such a rare immoral position of theirs, here is the immoral position of france, macron comes and tries

like a tightrope walker to resist, and he seems to have to follow the united states completely on the side of israel, but he has a lot of arabs there, he has elections, he has voters, they will start to destroy everything there, so he comes, sits down with president of israel and such phrases that you can’t get caught up in, they know, like jelly, once and between your fingers, and so they went somewhere, but something needs to be said, so he says, let’s come up with a coalition and we will fight like... against hamas, like against a group banned in russia, we’ll build an organizational bridge, put a steam engine across it, well, like everything in our classics, something like this is suitable, but let’s do it, or like ours stankevich always suggested, but let’s have a conference , well, cherchel once said, he said whatever you want ruin the matter, create a commission, well, roughly hold a conference, but that’s not enough for him , he must show to his arab voters that he... he’s kind of controversial, and he’s flying to egypt to

meet with the president, pay attention, it’s him flies to egypt, not anyone else, but germany has the most immoral position , and you know what its morality is, that they are trying to show that their position is based on morality, what burback says, what scholz says, they say , our relationship is based on our history, so we are always on the side of israel in any situation , because germany perpetrated the holocaust, this is the quintessence of what they say, but germany did not perpetrate the holocaust of israel, there was no israel then, germany perpetrated the holocaust of the jews, but today’s germany imposes sanctions against the jews, and now i mean not only myself, but also the israeli, yakov and also kedmi, so here you are absolutely right, they are absolutely deceitful even in this, that is, they are even

in theirs. but their position would be understandable, if they had not forgotten part of their history, and their memory is so selective, yes , that is, they remember the holocaust, but the extermination of 15 million soviet civilians, including jews and russians and ukrainians, no, they say that security israel and the citizens of israel are important to us in germany because? so by the same logic, the security of russia and russian citizens should be number one for the german chancellor, he said that the genocide of russians in the donbass is ridiculous, it’s this scoundrel, well, the chancellor can change, but i assure you, that their position will not change, the next chancellor will come who will say, it was not me who laughed at the russian genocide, but still he will not say that the security of russia is the most important component of german policy, like him.

he spoke there, and from this, of course, i want to say that the one who withdrew the troops of the soviet union, russia from the territory of germany is not just a romantic, not just a fool, he is a traitor, i absolutely agree, because germany’s position is not determined by morality and not by their attitude to what they did in the forties, but the fact that there are no our bases on their territory, but the american... there are bases on their territory, this is the key parameter for determining their position, i agree 500%. nikolai spoke about the morality of the position, vladimir vladimirovich putin has already spoken about this today, and the way our position on the middle east crisis is formulated absolutely exactly corresponds to the idea of ​​the russian people

that we are all watching with anxiety and pain in our hearts tragic situation in the holy land, which has sacred significance for christians, muslims, jews, for followers of the world's largest traditional religions, and a new round of the palestinian-israeli conflict has already claimed thousands of lives, thousands, russia has suffered from under... and knows what international terrorism is, we know what it is , we will always feel the bitterness of the irreparable losses suffered by the country during the years of the fight against international terrorism, i sincerely want to express my condolences to the families of israelis and citizens of other countries whose loved ones were killed or injured during the attack... october 7

this year, but it is also obvious to us that innocent people should not be held accountable for crimes committed by others. the fight against terrorism cannot be carried out according to the evil principle of collective responsibility, when old people, women, children, entire families also die, hundreds of thousands of people are left without shelter, food, water, electricity and medical care, this is... a real humanitarian catastrophe. russia’s position on the palestinian-israeli conflict is known and has been absolutely clearly stated more than once. she doesn't have. of some opportunistic nature, related to the current situation. it is based on decisions of the un security council, which provide for the creation of two independent, sovereign states, israel and palestine.

this is the key to a long-term, fundamental settlement to peace in the middle east, this is the traditional position of the soviet union, then russia since 1940. our task today, the main task, is to stop the bloodshed and violence , otherwise the further growth of the crisis is fraught with the most severe and extremely dangerous with devastating consequences, and not only for the regions of the middle east, this can spill out far beyond the borders of the middle east. this is precisely what i have repeatedly emphasized in my speeches during numerous telephone calls. noted who is really behind all these conflicts? we see attempts by some forces to provoke further escalation, to drag as many other countries of nations into the conflict as possible

, using them in their own selfish interests, to launch a real wave of chaos, mutual hatred, not only in the middle east, but also far beyond it outside, for this purpose, among other things, they are trying to play on the national and religious feelings of millions of people, and such a policy, if i may say so, has been implemented for a long time, long before the current crisis, muslims are being set against jews, they are being called for war with infidels, shiites are being pitted against sunnis , orthodox and catholics, in europe they turn a blind eye to blasphemy and vandalism against muslim holy places, in a number of countries they are already openly, at the official level, glorifying nazi criminals and anti-semists, on whose hands the blood of holocaust victims. in ukraine, they are moving towards banning the canonical orthodox church and deepening the church schism.

in my opinion, the goal of all these actions is obvious: to increase instability in the world, to divide cultures. peoples, world religions provoke a conflict of civilization, all according to the well-known principle, divide conquer, and at the same time they are talking about some kind of new world order, the essence of which is actually the same, hypocrisy, double standards, claims to exclusivity, to global dominance conservation, essentially neocolonial system, in the west they see how the process of forming a multipolar world order is gaining strength and in order to restrain the development of independent, sovereign countries, to split the world, the world majority, they are using all the same means, including islamophobia, anti-semitism, russophobia, of course, to these forces, who are pursuing such a policy or trying to pursue it, it is beneficial for the epidemic of violence and

hatred to sweep not only the middle east, but also other regions, largely orchestrating the conflict in the middle east, fueling, provoking... nationalism, religious intolerance towards the whole world, these same forces , of course, do not pursue their own hostile goals in relation to our country, and these goals are openly declared by the ruling circles of some countries, to inflict on us, as they put it, a strategic defeat, and there is nothing new here either, they need the middle east and any other religious or national conflicts in the world to be directly or indirectly connected in one way or another. with russia, or more precisely , they would hit russia against our society, therefore they will use both lies and provocations, external and internal reasons, to weaken and split our society, to inflame national and religious strife in our home. let me emphasize, now on leaders of public opinion,

leaders of political parties, public associations, heads of regions of our large country, and pastors. traditional religions, all institutions of civil society bear a colossal responsibility for the future of russia, each of us in our words and actions must proceed from the main thing, which is most important, from the indigenous interests of our own multinational people, always, always remember that interethnic and interreligious harmony is the basis of russian statehood, everything else, every other position has an anti-russian orientation and component. andrey. now it’s become interesting, if the security council actually passed resolution 242, which was adopted on november 22

, 1967, who would vote for it now, and there are two states, in principle, it not only concerned palestine and israel, it also concerned in general, a peaceful settlement in the entire middle east, to the extent that now, also at the un, when gutierrez spoke, well , he probably would have needed to focus attention not on what he said, i won’t repeat it now... precisely on what the security council has already done, to which we can , in fact, return now for the current settlement, because the problem is very complex, now they cannot pass resolutions one after another, because the americans say that one needs to be introduced introduce the country's right from israel 's right to self-defense, but nowhere surprisingly, this is what they blocked, because because there is no, or rather, our resolution was about a ceasefire. in general, i have always believed that this ceasefire point is a banality in a conflict, that is, it should go first, for this point, in principle

, everyone should agree, let’s stop, cease fire, and then we’ll start negotiating, but this is blocked, it’s obvious that who is behind this , in principle, someone is behind this, but i i would say that i don’t quite agree with my colleagues about ukraine, i think ukraine is a role-played plot, and moreover, that is, you are on my side, i’m not not without nuclear weapons, right? well, the plot is a role-playing plot, yes, ukraine is a role-playing plot, moreover, it was not long-term, if it had been long-term, then most likely the ukrainian army was being prepared, it was being prepared for a clash with russia, but then it would have been prepared on a different basis , now they wouldn’t talk about some f16, because ukrainian pilots would be trained for this is for these f16s, they converted it, everyone believed that the conflict would be with russia, the conflict would be very short-lived, but now there is one, or rather two, interests that are interesting, but one interest is the interest of the biden administration and

biden himself, yes, he needs to hold out until elections in ukraine, for this to continue, the second interest of the american establishment, the russians are busy with business, that is, they are being destroyed there , well, what are they constantly talking about, this, this is good, but in principle ukraine had to play the role of such a detonator that had to break any possible ties between russia and europe, we once talked about the possibility of a rapprochement with germany , yes, when we talk about the victory of henry tegranich, i absolutely agree, victory in the long-term in our global plan, yes, is to throw out the americans from the eurasian, from the eurasian continent, this is victory in the current conflict, this is throwing them back to the line of may 1997, now returning to that situation, this is what it is in principle, that we will come out and stand head-to-head with nato, sorry, but american military strategy... does not involve maintaining gray zones, it involves just meeting the enemy and standing opposite. the second problem is with ukraine, they expect what

will happen, how will we then develop this huge territory? moreover, we understand, yes, they say there, they write 400, 400 ukrainian soldiers died, yes, but they also have children, mothers, families, everything else, how they will treat this is also a very serious problem for the reconstruction of ukraine, if... until the year fifty-six in western ukraine the banderaites continued to run and they caught the last one there. the third problem is that, strictly speaking, having solved us europe, yes, they actually solved the problem of finding the path where it originally ended, ended, in october of the thirteenth year, as in kazakhstan it was described by sizenpen himself, that it would end - then in europe, now it no longer ends in europe. in other words, here's the problem. containment of us and china in the west, and this is the main task in all doctrinal

in the documents of both republicans and democrats, this is written down, what else is there, there is also china, yes, they did not expect that, i am absolutely sure that they did not expect that the middle east would catch fire, that it would just flare up at the same time like that, although the situation there is very complicated, because on the one hand iran claims leadership there, but saudi arabia also claims, here you go, turkey, erdogan wants to be a regional leader, he now wants to lead the islamic world, well, at least the middle east. therefore here the fight was going on, and the united states was included in the fight there, they negotiated with saudi arabia until october 7, and the conclusion of this peace agreement with israel, only saudi arabia realized what it could offer, present the americans with a very big bill that they must be done for its support, but at the same time... for the saudis, israel was important because it is a weapon in the fight against iranian dominance in

this region, so they are very closely involved in this game. i don’t think, of course, that that they were counting on two conflicts, in terms of money, janet yellin, the secretary of the treasury, said two, two conflicts, we will pay, as they say, but three will pay more, that’s all serious, but the conflict had to be with china , they have been active since last year, here is nancy pelase, but it was just a challenge to china, this is such a spit, they developed it, i ’m not sure that she knew the administration. where her plane would fly was absolutely certain, so everyone, everyone was sure that this was at the suggestion of the administrator, or rather, that the administration can fly in like this and let’s go where i want, but let’s turn left, let’s turn right, so what they are doing now , here is delegation after delegation, when the senators, led by chuck, arrive there, now

he has arrived, well, this is generally his grandfather can replace, yes, he can replace his grandfather in the election campaign, no, not that, i’m surprised by something else, that comrade xi received some senators, some, you don’t understand who, governor, i understand, it’s not a joke passed, they take them to the bride, look, and my comrades say, but i like this one, this can be done to be elected president of the united states, and that wang is still going, that is. the americans would really like now a conflict with china is inevitable, every administration in the 21st century announced that the main enemy would be china, and every time the middle east arose, and every time they were forced to pull themselves there, now they want it, it’s unpleasant, now they, now they want to hold on, so to speak, that’s

what they did in the west in principle. a perimeter has been created, a perimeter has been created against us, even if we now get, in the west, in the west, in the west, in the west, but only hungary is looking for, well, serbia, hungary, and this is a small thing, it’s such a small thing, it always seems like this, a small thing, slovakia is really something like that, well, also a small thing, but the perimeter is for now, when we get to warsaw, too, yes, there’s a little thing, there’s helsinki, it’s a big deal, well, it’s a little thing, a little thing, for them, for the americans , it’s just a victory, so they’ll declare that they won, it’s that putin didn’t go through the fray, as he promised, as he promised, withered from anger, kremlin propagandists, that’s good, promised, promised, that’s not enough, wrap up and there’s no breaststroke, that’s what they call it differently, sozhenki, and cozhenki, cozhenki, right there, when, i remember in portugal, when the weather is good, they say, sail in that direction, there will be

a statue of liberty, it’s good from there, launch poseidon, but... let it get there, no, well, speaking seriously , what has just happened in the middle east has completely torn apart, that is, now there is no point in even talking about the form of democracy, but of course, all this has died, no there is no point in talking about creating an anti-russian front, because arab countries, in general the muslim world will definitely be on the side of russia, global latin america, south america will definitely stand up, the west has completely lost face, because if. russia is waging an unjustified brutal war in ukraine and is silent about the bombing of gas, then the islamic world says: what are you talking about, in general, let me remind you that there are many muslims in southeast asia,

there are many muslims in southeast asia, but there is american influence there too. american influence, it would seem, american influence was strong in the middle east, and it seemed if only the americans had so many bases, when did it happen that the american bases began to be hammered, without paying the slightest attention to the possibility of a response, it’s not enough that their bases are hammered, and the americans do not respond while more than 20 people are wounded, while there are no killed, there are wounded , no, they just don’t talk about it now, please, douglas said the colonel. otherwise they were crushed by their special forces, about this silence, what do we know about whether people really died there or not? biden warned that a possible response to the us reaction in the event of attacks on american forces in the near future in the east from iran for sure, on the other