[000:00:00;00] and they require a large team of scientists, high-quality engineers, which are not formed in 1 year, but develop over years, sometimes decades, and experience is passed on from generation to generation, but unfortunately, today in the industry there is a departure of a large number of personnel, for example, from of my team, in the current year alone, a quarter of the employees have left, some are not leaving, some into commerce, some... into private space companies, because today, unfortunately, wages are not as competitive in roscosmos as in commerce and, and often a we receive two to three times lower salaries than commercial companies can pay, and young engineers who have studied for 6 years at a university and have mastered such complex engineering specialties sometimes receive less than couriers in the market, and we are worried that in

the near future the time is really here... there will be a great personnel shortage and there will be no opportunity to develop in the space sector. can we count on any fundamental changes in the remuneration of our labor in the near future? yes, well, about the courier at the market, no i think that they turned down, of course, but, but, but on average, on average, of course, uh, for the corresponding regions, it turns out somewhere around average, even a little. slightly below average, but it should be higher, i agree, so we will definitely think about it, to be honest, i somehow, well, didn’t even expect it when i looked at the materials for today’s meeting, which will take place, i was even a little surprised, because we have a certain

order for certain areas of high-tech activity, you know, in scientific ones. by the region should receive so much 100 there 200%, but this is, of course, also the most important area , i don’t even understand how we missed it, i agree , such issues cannot be resolved in one click, but we definitely absolutely need to think about it, we need to move forward, we will definitely do this, thank you very much, energy, now the housing issue for young professionals is extremely acute, my husband and i are a young family, we have been working in ottoli for more than 5 years, we are thinking about children, but we don’t have our own housing yet, we tried to get a mortgage in an unknown bank that supports our

industry, but the bank approved the extreme... amount at a high interest rate, with this amount now you can’t even buy a one-room apartment in the old fund in korolev. and at what percentage, i wonder, 14-15%. and, right now there is no way to quickly save up for a down payment. and many young specialists in our industry have this problem; in fact, is it possible to do this? preferential mortgage for employees of the space industry, reducing the interest rate and requirements for the down payment, and it is very important, both for new buildings and for secondary housing, because that in korolev there is now a big problem with new buildings, mostly secondary, here we are, i believe that we are solving important problems for the country, we really want to enlist your support in resolving this issue,

thank you. you, uh, 14% is really too much, although we have created a whole scale there, starting with 2%, you know, yes, for certain categories in certain territories, and ending there, and then there are three, and five there, and so on, well, for for the space industry, of course, there must be its own alloying system, certainly not now i will talk about specific numbers, because it would be incorrect, this is necessary with the government. with the ministry of finance, first of all, to compare different conditions there, but the fact that for the space industry, bearing in mind its importance for the country, for the state, its potential and development prospects, we of course need to retain young specialists here, this is absolutely obvious , and housing is one of the fundamental indicators of the attractiveness of a job,

we’ll definitely think about it, thank you. very important, well, but by the way, here you are they said that they are leaving for private companies that deal with space problems, you see, after all, private business is developing, we already have 15.50 companies that deal with it, this is not enough for now, but quite recently there were only five or six, for in a few years there have been 150 companies that are engaged in this type of activity, space activities, so we will definitely move, thank you, and i’ll add a little, i wouldn’t want to go into another industry, i’d like to support the domestic cosmonautics, and directly the enterprise where i work, you don’t want to work as a courier in the market , for high wages, well, if support is introduced, naturally it would be easier to support our industry, thank you, we won’t necessarily think about it, i just promise you, we’ll definitely work on this,

as well as over this very thing, over the creation of such a social sphere, at the cosmodrome, there next to the cosmodrome, tsalkovsky in the city, and so on. i’m telling you, you can believe it, just now when i was there, i raised this question myself in a conversation with my colleagues there, yes, yes, that’s it deputy prime minister, he won’t lie, he’s a big boss, yes, well, we’re going well, and on the initiative, myself, i say, listen, what is there for the guys, for the young, well, it’s like there’s nothing special, well, we said , there, there are good roads, that’s what it is in my opinion, it might be interesting, when sebur gazprom does something there, they are also doing something for themselves there, and i told them, yes, listen, well, let’s do it together, to unite, the roads are good, it is possible there - well, in some places, to create - some kind of

attractive center, in all these places, more precisely, so that you can move somewhere, move somewhere, not sit in one place, so that there is movement, as they say, well, i can give hints in the direction of, talk to russian railways, they are there, so what, what ? what about russian railways? there are stations, there are tracks, so in order for a train to run you just need an economic justification or a subsidy, well, in more detail, what am i waiting for, eh, well, at the moment, the project of a railway connection with tselkovsky has not been implemented, and largely due to the positions individual russian railways specialists, i can’t do it here anymore to be responsible for the top management, here we, as young specialists, are communicating, and what are the problems to be solved ? the runway will soon be there; the runway will be ready; the plane will fly by train, for example, just like in most regions, guys would have to use a diesel engine on weekends

it’s much more convenient to travel than on your own, and in this regard, the locals seem to be yes, yes, because now all the trips, they’re right here at the store back, i’ll talk with alek valentinovich, i’m afraid they won’t invite me to russian railways events anymore, they will, they will, they will, don’t worry, they will. fine, well, i don’t know, maybe a final question , maybe not, please, platonov olek, cosmonaut training center, yes please, hello, i’m oleg vladimirovich platonov, roscosmos test cosmonaut, cosmonaut training center. 5 years ago i was selected for the cosmonaut corps, all these years i have been making every effort to prepare for future space flights , you can say that i live by this business, i, all the specialists of our center, the cosmonaut corps, it’s the last time, we are all very worried , where we will continue to fly when the flight program to the international space station ends, we need new ships

, we need a new orbital station, in connection with this, and we all want to ask you to support in every possible way the creation of a russian orbital station, the so-called ros. of course, there is an understanding of the situation we are in now, in what conditions, i have a question: does our state, russia, have enough resources, desire and will to prevent an interruption in the flights of our people, our cosmonauts into space, and in general implement all the planned plans in the field of space, first, i think the most important thing is that we all must understand, and the government must understand, in fact there is such an understanding that without manned astronautics, we will not be able to effectively develop space and space services, first, second and also

no less important, everything needs to be done in a timely manner, if the financial groundwork is not made in a timely manner, and that means technologically, technically, then this gap may arise. in manned astronautics, today we will also talk about this, the goal is that there are no gaps, that the work ... proceeds rhythmically as the iss resource is exhausted , that it appears gradually, and in the end appears at the right moment, not just one segment, namely the entire station, but one of these segments we already looked today, when can it be released? yes, in the twenty-seventh year the first segment should be launched into orbit , thank you, uh-huh, thank you, very encouraging, well, vladimir vladimirovich, we are working on the mistakes, therefore, the next person wants to make the best rocket in the world,

kvetkin alexander rcc progress. hello, vladimir vladimirovich, as i was already introduced, my name is alexander kvetkin, head of the sector in the head design department for launch vehicle progress. now there is a trend in the world to launch spacecraft using reusable launch vehicles. and we are also working on developing such a rocket. it's called cupid. will use. natural gas and liquid oxygen, launches will take place from the vostochny cosmodrome, being participants in this project, i would like to note that it is connected with the need to introduce new technologies , test the landing of the first stage, as well as create a reusable engine for the first stage, we understand that our satellite constellation is currently actively developing, which means that we already need a lot. the amur launch vehicle, however, the sequestration

of the federal space program is slowing down the pace of development, tell me, is there an opportunity to help promote a reusable launch vehicle? thank you, yuri ivanovich, you talked it into it, yes, it’s clear, that means, but this is not sequestration, there is a certain shrinking, that means, individual budget items, well, the budget as a whole... is large , reliable, balanced, it all depends on the readiness of industries, including the space industry, to develop some segments of their work, and what are you talking about they said, very important work, very important, because the competitiveness of the industry as a whole , well in this case, the industry we are talking about, where you work, depends to a large extent, to a large extent, on the cost of one kilogram launched into

orbit, and on that's all the rest, well, no everything, but a lot, there is, of course, such a meaningful part, but uh, which is directly connected there with the quality of the devices that we introduce, with the solutions, with the tasks that they are able to solve in orbit and so on, but still - a lot depends on the cost of a kilogram launched into orbit, from the point of view of competitiveness, so such a device that you mentioned, rockets, means reusable, especially on liquefied natural gas, well, of course, it is in great demand, and in demand and in as they say in the national economy, so from the point of view of resolving some issues in the field of security, therefore, of course , we will work, we will look at

what has been reduced there, yuri ivanovich, that the volume has been reduced there, the opportunity to work is truly innovative, important, there, well, they have reduced funding, we are a little shocked for passport data, but in fact, i don’t have to commit myself to the ministry of finance, we have committed to carry out all planned activities, they have committed to add money to us while we go along this path, already second year, we are greek, but no, we always have to complain, they will give you more, ask for more, they will give you less, but you have to ask for more, that’s why, please remind me, this is important work, you heard us our dialogue, yes, no let's quit this kind of work, it is in demand, thank you very much, thank you, your answers are encouraging, so this is a pressing question denis demin, npo named after vavochkin, vladimirovich, denis demin. head of the design department of mpo lavachkina and i have a question about luna 25,

which was already mentioned today, but we have this the device was made largely by a young team that was formed just for this project, and the emergency situation that occurred, of course, it upset us all very much, the fact that we couldn’t, i ’ll be honest, i was so upset, yes, but on the other hand we understood that it would be very difficult to go through this path without mistakes, we had a huge break from almost 50 years old, there were, in many ways, new technologies that needed to be restored, new competencies created, and a team that she was doing this now she hasn’t given up, she carefully... analyzes the mistakes that have occurred, the technical solutions that are planned for further missions, and this gives us confidence in the next mission, now we have plans, luna 26 is an orbital vehicle, and the moon 27 is a lander. oh, but it’s very important not to let this team run away, sour, lose these

competencies that have now been acquired in practice, at such a high price, and accordingly, for this purpose, in no case should... allow a break in development year of the lunar program, so that this doesn’t happen: we again haven’t launched anything for 10 years , because we will again lose these accumulated competencies, so the question is whether the domestic lunar research program will continue to be supported, well, let’s not stop, it will be, there will be, we will have the next device planned when in the twenty-seventh we will try, maybe even move it to the left, there are such plans for the twenty-sixth, but for now 27. well, i was not mistaken the twenty-seventh year the next one funding has been secured, we will continue, yes, well, ivanovich suggests, we don’t plan to close it, but there are mistakes, there are mistakes, it’s such a complex complex field of activity

, well, it’s a shame for everyone, it’s a shame for everyone, i assure you, but it’s okay , this is cosmonautics - this is space exploration , complex tasks, everything is generally clear, what happened, why it happened, so, well, yes, well, it’s a shame, nothing, but this is a negative, after all, also an experience that will be used in the future so that there are no mistakes, confidently, then we have intermediate orbital, then with landing, we’ll do everything, there i know that then no one landed there, right? in this place on the header on these, so everything there is very promising, interesting, we will definitely work, the lunar program will continue, thank you very much, well, with a hot, very probably, i would even say a hot question, yuri novikov, kbb arsenal,

hello, vladimir vladimirovich, arsenal design bureau, st. petersburg, you told private business that they need to make better products, but i thought so, in in principle, in russia, today there is only one nuclear-powered icebreaker fleet in the world, well, which opens up a strategically important northern sea route for us, probably this is the closest thing to a parallel to what we are doing, we are making a kind of, well, space nuclear icebreaker , i’m kidding , of course, in fact, our company is developing a transport energy module with a nuclear power plant, with a capacity of... half a megawatt, and such power will not only allow you to fly to the most remote corners solar system, but will allow us to power equipment that we haven’t even sent into space before, unfortunately, now the avanproject is underway, the state contact is

only for the avanproject, this means that the further fate of this product is still not determined, but today we are already experimenting we prove the possibility of creating... elements of systems, for example, an energy conversion system - a very complex gas turbine unit. in the world , even on paper, such projects simply do not exist, well, come 24, the state contract for advance project, and what will happen next? well, of course, this project is associated with high technical risks and requires serious funding from the state. can we count on your support for this ambitious project, thank you, you can, then

i can tell you an anecdote on this topic, but only the two of us, but this anecdote does not correspond to our realities, but the reality is. what did you say, we are the first in this direction, everyone else is behind us, we are ahead on a very important topic, now we are also talking about this at the exhibition they said, a little bit like that, but the exploration of deep space, without this it is probably simply unrealistic, impossible, so many of our partners are showing great interest in cooperation in this area, but with this propulsion system we ourselves will need it for the exploration of outer space and let’s say for the same maybe lunar programs. will require such a powerful source of energy and so on, so we will certainly do this, i just don’t know

the details related to the planned financing, but we definitely don’t let's drop this topic and provide the necessary amount of money for the program to move forward, 100%, thank you very much, vladimir vladimirovich, well, we would still communicate and communicate, but we know that you still have a meeting ahead and i really want it to be there you also continued to resolve issues in the most active form , we would like to say a big thank you, because i saw how the guys were worried before the meeting, how it seemed that our questions were lost and we would never have everything covered, but you changed the situation , and the main thing is that today the guys heard that what they were doing was useful for the country, and that the country was also worried about our problems, i’m sure that when they chose their path in life, they just proceeded from the fact that it was important and interesting, uh,

if our meeting, as confirmed this thesis, which i am very pleased with, means that at least partly the goal of today’s meeting in this sense was achieved, but it did not end, because a colleague is sitting there, raising his hand, wanting to say something, vladimir vladimirovich, thank you very much for the opportunity to ask a question, question will be about manned flights: flights from the eastern one, when we chose the orbit for ross, we proceeded from the fact that all launches would be carried out from the russian cosmodrome, but we still cannot launch our old proven alliance from the eastern one, there are a number of problems on the eastern one, they are solvable, but we are told that it is easier to abandon the old ship, so it was decided to fly to ros only on a new ship, but the union also has its niche, is it possible to raise the issue of finalizing the launch on

the eastern one and in order to fly from our cosmodrome, i, as a ballistician, will give we have one argument baikanur, the loss of the output mass will be significant 600 kg, but in this sense i would understand, now only ivanovich talked about this, we will move in this direction, yuri ivanovich, when will we? it’s a shame for us, but the question was raised absolutely correctly, we remember, we told you that our risks with aerobatics are associated with a single launch on a baikon, so we’ll work on it with our colleagues, there’s a problem in the rescue system, it should work differently than in baikonvoy, but if we find a solution, it would be advisable to do so. take it please microphone and in general it’s interesting nikit, you’re

my student, i taught you. vladimir vladimirovich, what is the situation there, vostochny really has one problem for our equatorial orbits at 51° , in which the iss flies, we just take off and immediately find ourselves above the pacific ocean, if we launch from baikanur, we have literally 11 seconds above the pacific ocean . and as they say, here the problems of salvation are solved, because all the problems of salvation are usually where the separation of steps is, there all these troubles arise, the dew will fly like me i reported to you in polar orbit, this is a different inclination, and there we pass, well, not over very good, but our territories, there is land, how is it not over very good, if ours means very good, well, a swamp, there is a swamp, there further

, when we go out into the arctic ocean zone, it’s just cold there, but it’s not five points of the pacific ocean, the search is much easier, because there are replanting airfields there, we looked at this matter, from the east, of course, we are ready, so to speak launch exactly on ours, this supposed one polar orbit 96°, so yes, it is necessary, indeed, but we continue to work with the iss, we really believe that if we take care of the launch on the bayonet, we will be able to continue all this work, but if problems arise , as i say, some emergency situations, when it will be difficult to recover, will it be necessary to think about some kind of rescue system over the pacific ocean if flying to the iss? here you go. will receive an answer from your former teacher, but for you this is a former teacher, and for me the last and

first authority, we will listen to opinion of experts. of course, colleagues, now i’ll agree, just in case, ask another question, please, good afternoon, just a second, just a very small question, and my name is afonin alexander, ao-composite, leading design engineer, we in russia now have a problem for young specialists, it is difficult for us to realize ourselves in an appropriate way, and this is not only a matter of regulations or the problems of bureaucracy that we talked about today. and in order for the project to be noticed and supported, we need the scale of the entire country, yes, now there are various local platforms, and grant stories, and university, regional, but if we want an impulse, if today we want to jump the day after tomorrow, because the chinese and other space powers are already jumping into tomorrow, we need , accordingly, as i said, the scale of the entire

countries, an example of such an implementation of such... an idea can be a national technical project, a national competition of technical projects in the rocket and space industry. such a unique platform where young professionals can meet, exchange ideas and generate unique products, and there is such a big pot of new ideas, and accordingly, if these winners of this competition are further supported by grants, we will move forward very quickly, even now i have in my head a motto for such a competition: every business is driven by people with a burning desire to move this very thing, how do you like this idea? support such a competition, the idea is good, the slogan is kind of long , but yes, chop it off and make it bright, but the idea itself seems to me to be very good, we need to support it, you know, we have a lot

good beginnings, in various fields. related to the search for the most promising proposals and the people who formulate these proposals, bearing in mind the importance and significance of the industry, of course, it is possible and necessary to organize, let's do it , i wonder why not, with pleasure, i think it will attract the attention of thousands of people, so we can raise the prestige of space activities. yes, that's right, that's right, good suggestion, thank you, thank you very much, yeah , yeah, well, let's finish, okay, because big guys are sitting there, waiting, they will be angry with you, one, one, yes, good evening, thank you for being able to ask a question to complete, so, ah, i’m khairul, i’m a student at samara university, i’m doing an internship in energy with us there is a faculty of rocket and space technology, where citizens

of the russian federation and citizens of other countries study, these are central asia, africa, south america. and many of these people are ambitious guys who come here halfway around the world, study, complete a bachelor's degree, graduate with a master's degree, participate in scientific competitions, participate in volunteer events, but after graduation they cannot continue to work in the space sector, because in their country the industry is not established, well done, it’s a shame, we need to take talented guys, of course we need to take them, and my proposal is that since their countries cannot yet produce space technology, but at the same time they are passionate people, why not create a scientific reservation here, reservation is not a good word, but attract young specialists, talented, we need, why not, for example, they do this, they do this us, which assembles teams of foreigners , they work on some local projects of their own, for example, it could be

the creation of small spacecraft for their own countries, let’s say, they can just. exactly, exactly, i agree, a good idea, absolutely exactly, especially since people have come, they’ve been living with us for several years, they know the language, of course, if they are really talented young people who are passionate about this type of activity, well, of course, yes, more moreover, even since they were sent from other countries, you can think about how we can build relations in this area, with our partners. so that they don’t lose these people forever, i absolutely completely agree, thank you for the idea, absolutely, we definitely need to do this, thank you, thank you, dava, thank you very much, i want you, i want to wish you all, wish you success in that very interesting field the activity you