with housing benefits for workers in this field, and the government, the head of state instructed to prepare additional measures, a decent salary will allow those who live in space not to be distracted by earthly difficulties. elizaveta khramtsova, vesti. this week the debate around building a new global world has intensified. vladimir putin. at a meeting with leaders of russian religious denominations, he once again reminded everyone that the world is undergoing a natural process of building a multipolar world. well, back at the beginning of the last decade, our president spoke about tectonic processes of global transformation. the beginning of the process of abandoning the western model of globalization was vladimir putin’s munich speech in 2007, but drastic changes in world politics began 10 years ago after organizing a coup d’etat with the west. in ukraine, so what we see

now is what is happening in world politics, this is the result of the struggle of at least two projects, a unipolar western one and a multipolar one for the rest of humanity. russia’s concept of the formation of a new multipolar world is becoming increasingly popularity among peoples of different countries. apparently, it was the fear of finally losing the initiative in global politics that forced biden to make a statement to voters this week; the american president once again stated that it is the supremacy of the united states that supposedly ensures peace on earth, that is, he advocated the preservation of a unipolar world, for several for decades , the united states has reigned supreme in this unipolar world; today we discussed what all this means with philosopher alexander dugin. alexandrelich, hello, thank you for

they certainly found time for us, a versatile person, and wrote many books about various interesting things, i would like to ask a narrower question, probably, although it is global in nature, i mean the question of the new world order that various world orders are now trying to build political forces, well, our president has been raising this topic since the seventh year, but probably from the munich speech... recently this week the american president answered our president, he also talked about building a new world order, this is actually a quote, i would i wanted to ask you why this debate, so to speak, has intensified now , we are really in a turning point situation, in a situation where two world orders collide with each other, one world order, this is a unipolar world order,

the world order that emerged after the end of the soviet union, when the west has become the only monopoly hegemony in the global context, this unipolar world, despite the fact that it has obviously failed to control humanity, it strives to survive, and when biden talks about a new world order, he means... not some new world order, he means the same unipolar world that the globalists have grabbed with their teeth, it’s just that they don’t want to give in, they hold on to it, they arrange conflicts, they provoke wars, they try to rule the world single-handedly and nothing works out for them, that is, biden calls new exactly the order that emerged after the collapse of the soviet... union and which is called

unipolarity, when our president and other brix countries , and other civilizations, representatives of different peoples and cultures talk about a new world order, they mean a multipolar world, that is, the model that is coming to replace the unipolar world, so in fact, our president and the american president by the new world order mean exactly the opposite things. for the americans, at least for the globalists whom biden represents, the world order must remain unipolar, and the power of the united states, and the sole hegemony of america must strengthen, this is the whole imposition that this will be this unipolar world, only america will lead it even more harshly to where it seems appropriate, necessary and consistent with its interests, more and more fiercely. other civilizations insist on

a multipolar world. and as a matter of fact, the conflict in ukraine, the north ossetia, which began on the territory. the region is, in general, a war for the world order, a war not with the ukrainians, a war between us and the west, and we represent a multipolar world, and further, as this fierce confrontation between two world orders unfolds, in this context, the brix summit took place in johannesburg, when islamic countries, representing the islamic islamic civilization, various shiites of iran, sunnis, saudi arabia and a completely separate egypt, also sunni, also arab, but completely different, just like african countries, ethiopia joined southern africa, argentina joined brazil , and so this multipolar

club of six civilizations is taking shape, just the other day , well, somewhere a couple of weeks ago, after all, these terrible events took place in the gas sector, hamas’ attack on israel, response support for israel from the united states , another front of this world order, the struggle for world order, is emerging again, the islamic world is consolidating against israel, the west is fully involved in supporting israel, here ’s more one front of this multipolar world is being formed by islamic civilization against the west, just like russian in ukraine... civilization , eurasian civilization is again against the west, a multipolar world against the unipolar one time to talk about what are the long-term goals, what are the deep meanings of what is happening, because well, if this is not the preparation or the eve, if you will, of the third world war, and

usually, unfortunately, in world wars the configurations and parameters of the world order really change , then what else is this, because the west continues to insist , biden, namely the globalists, continue to insist that they are for the preservation of a unipolar world and its strengthening, and humanity is represented by russia, in the person of the islamic world, in the person of china, which i saw with the same west, although for now there is a trade war, but this war is ready to escalate into a civilizational clash around taiwan, in the pacific region, that is , in fact, humanity against the west, the west against humanity, among humanity... a large humanity, which is represented by russia, china, here, strictly speaking, the brix countries, they have the same view of the world order, and it is putin, as the vanguard of this multipolar world, who voices this world order, and biden answers him, says: no, we will fight to the end, we will

maintain your world order, your hegemony, but this is a direct contradiction , and talking about this now, why is it so important, because a second front opens before our eyes as soon as israel... or if, of course, it starts a ground operation in the gaza strip, that’s it, i think that this will just be a direct war between the islamic world and the west, that is , another front in this struggle for the contours of the world order, and i even think that even if israel continues to postpone the ground operation, unrest will still spread to the west the bank of the jordan river and palestine in israel itself and the nearest countries surrounding lebanon, syria, and jordan. egypt, iran, that is, turkey, saudi arabia, iraq, that is, everyone will be involved in this fundamental conflict, the parameters of which are completely different, now many israelis are saying: well , we dealt with the arabs easily, at the previous stage, but firstly , not so easy, secondly,

the situation has changed radically, now the islamic world is completely in a different position than it was before, and although the differences between countries remain in politics, all the same... already the pole of a multipolar world, now multipolarity is coming, unipolarity is in its death throes and continues to radically fight for its own interests, in this context now a spark is enough, it’s enough to put one or another feather on the scales, everything will change, there is a struggle for these global trends, two world orders, two projects of a world order, unipolar and multipolar, embodied in the usa in the brixs, first of all in our country, they clashed with each other tooth and nail, therefore, this is the time to think about what is happening, and what the west is offering to the world, and what all of our allies in the multipolar club are offering to the world.

alexander evich, you have outlined the general picture in such a way, and it is very clear, but on the other hand, a number of questions arise, probably our tv viewers too, i want to refer to your book, 2015, in any case, i have it, then i i read exactly that, it’s geopolitics, your book, a textbook for universities, higher educational institutions, so i’ll allow myself... a quote that you say here, i’ll remind you again, this is a book from 2015, well, you probably remember this , i’m saying this for tv viewers, so here’s the quote: if we turn to the past, we will easily find that a multipolar world, that is, an international order based on the principle of multipolarity has never existed, multipolarity is, therefore it is a project, a plan, a strategy for the future, and not simple inertia or skeletal resistance to globalization, this is the end of the quote, in general... i recommend the book to those who want to understand what is happening in in the modern world, these questions and those processes

that we now see are actively moving forward, you have been talking about this for a long time, here is confirmation of what is called one of many, and documented, i have only one question: if a multipolar world has never was, a theme is born, and not whether we want to build some kind of chimera, some kind of bright future, like we built communism, which has nothing to do with current life. relations , well, you know, yes, i have been studying geopolitics for many, many decades, and i started my first publications on this very topic, published in the early nineties, and already there in 2015, these are some kind of developments, this is also my textbook, one of the textbooks on geopolitics, and here i think it’s important to pay attention, you know, what has fundamentally changed in geopolitics , this became especially noticeable. in the era of trump, this was precisely the promise of some bright future, that there would not

be a confrontation between the classical civilization of the sea and the civilization of the land, that is, the west, the anglo-saxon world, russia, eurasia, as classical geopolitics was built towards which brilliantly described everything that was happening until the end, well, not even until the end of the 20th century, just let’s say up to 200 there, until the end of the 2000s. approximately, yes, it turns out, yes, she described, this is the bipolar confrontation between the west, namely the anglo-saxon and russia of eurasia, classical geopolitics described quite accurately until a certain moment, suddenly, when president trump came, arose, and quite some in parallel, when there was a strengthening of china, there was a change in this geopolitical model, which, in principle, assumed that now in every country there would be a civilization of land, in each, in a large space, there would be a pole of land and a pole of sea, that is, geopolitics becomes internal,

because those states that voted for trump were a kind of continental bloc within america itself, and the coastal zones, they were globalists and opposed trump, china also established its own continental bloc, russia, this is natural, but it is russia, we have ceased to be the only stronghold of this globalist. models, and yet globalist networks, they have spread throughout the world, as this kind of networks, precisely those that are thrown at civilizations, that is, here the chance has opened that we can build - the next stage of human relations, international policies based on this multipolarity , which the west in the person of trump or the candidate forces of, say, the united states of america are ready to recognize without a fight, just america... hoest and that they say america will be the first, yes please, it should not be

the only one, if america is the first of the other poles, it’s okay, maybe, by the way, it won’t be like that, but maybe it will be like that, but if america, trump’s america was ready to recognize the right of other civilizations to go their own way, then in fact , this geopolitical - fatal, fatal conflict between the civilization of the land and the civilization of the sea could have been... avoided , that is, multipolarity, in fact, is a bright future, this is for us, if you like, there is communism for humanity, of course, that’s all problems will not be solved, but a multipolar world is an opportunity to build a harmonious system of relations between several civilizations, not one western civilization against all, which demands submission to itself, destroys its enemy in the face of land civilization, as it actually was from the point of view of... classical geopolitics, this is a distributed land, distributed

heartland provided the opportunity to avoid war, but under trump this theoretical, purely theoretical opportunity, it suddenly came true, and he was accused of why he had nothing to do with us in working for russia did not have, he did not follow his logic, but it was a logic that, in principle, could suit everyone, the islamic world, china , russia, africa, latin america, and india, someone would compete with each other, someone would build certain alliances among themselves and america could in this context even be the first of the first of the poles of the first power, well that... it’s not scary, it’s another matter, first doesn’t mean the only one, this is a globalist project, it as if everything returns again to the fact that no, only the west will rule the world, the main one the enemy of russia is against, that’s why they started the war in ukraine, this is a bad future, that is, there is a bad future - this is a continuation of such a bipolar geopolitics, where the civilization of the sea fights with the civilization

of the land, but the civilization of the land today russia is no longer alone and another has arisen pole of china. india has become a completely independent city , with which russia has very good relations, although there is a contradiction between india and china, that is, multipolarity is still coming, that’s another matter, that it would be a good outcome, war could be avoided if america recognized this multipolarity, agreeing to the status of the first of the puluses, the first among equals, but not the only one, but not the one that claims absolute power, absolute monopoly, hegemony, to the dictatorship of his values, his ideas to all humanity , this, this is biden’s terrible, terrible mission, he seems like such a kind grandfather who doesn’t understand everything well, forgets, and he probably may be like that individually, but

well, they are already weak there, due to their age, understanding the processes that are happening in the world, but behind him is a completely radical, fanatical group of conservatives and globalists, who precisely see the multipolar world as incompatible with american hegemony, as the opposite, and now they are actually drawing everything in humanity is at war, this is scary, this is what is on our doorstep, on the path to a bright future, and if i think trump would win the next election now, then it’s his tail that he will end the conflict in ukraine, maybe these will be... words, because if we stop feeding our opponents, the nazi regime in kiev with weapons, money, diplomatic assistance, moral support, with information from the intelligence services, if we just stop, as it were, cultivating nazism and terrorism of the kiev regime, i think that the situation could have been resolved long ago, and

this is exactly what the builders of the new world order we are talking about are doing, they say... therefore, i think that not everything is lost, of course, for russia, there is no other way than assert this multipolarity, and move towards this multipolar world order, defend it, together with other peoples and civilizations , this is the difference between us and them, why we bring a chance and a historical one, and they are trying to deprive all of humanity of this chance, we recognize the right of their civilization to creature. as one of the civilizations, but they do not recognize our right to exist as an independent civilization, they think linearly, either we submit to them, or they will destroy us and wipe us off the face of the earth, we have an asymmetrical approach, we don’t want them erase the faces of the earth, we don’t want to force them to obey us, the west, i mean, we just want to remain an independent sovereign

civilization, what we were, for this we have been throughout our history... and we have always fought, won and defended ourselves, often with great very losses, so i think that the geopolitical forecast for the future, it is now being decided, that is, a lot of polarity is inevitable, but this is a difficult path, very serious tests await us on this path, because the americans are trying and from within us to shake things up, they staged a massacre in ukraine, they staged it, now they are actually promoting genocide... of the palestinian population, that is, they are challenging the islamic world. the west is becoming more and more aggressive, more and more itself is becoming more and more russian and is guided by double standards that horrify humanity. therefore , i think that there are prospects for avoiding this conflict, multipolarity is a solution,

a real one, and this is not just our victory, it is a victory for everyone, including america, but only for america, which will renounce its... claims to hegemony, which it cannot cope with at all, with this hegemony has failed, but nevertheless, this is the fanaticism of those groups that stand behind biden , it certainly causes great, great concern, great fears, whether these groups will lead the globalists to a nuclear conflict, because when they see that their positions have completely collapsed, i don’t know, they can probably decide, that’s not enough , of course, probably, maybe maybe reason and rationality will win, but their fanaticism makes us suspect that they can do the worst , aleksandrovich, let’s speculate further about the future of a multipolar world, because his critics are precisely saying that when there is conditionally one master of the world, he

puts everyone in order, and multipolarity - it will be a big mess, there will be a lot of all sorts of blocs , on the contrary, it will cause instability in the world, this is how they argue, so based on some rules, well, in this case you just need to say, based on american rules govern this world, then everything is clear, they just don’t use the word american. in their speeches, if you insert this adjective word, then everything will be fine, but they say: when we were the master, everything was calm, and now the russians, the chinese, and others are disturbing this world and accordingly creating this world instability, they ask your residents, you need this, you need to fight for democracy, for order based on rules, well, their rules, what did you answer to this? you know, well, the fact is that they are already... incapable, have proven their inability to provide , when they say that how can you build relationships between independent civilizations, then they are asking a serious

question, yes, it’s not easy, it’s not trivial, but in fact, if we remember history, such, with such the existence of entire empires, entire civilizations, was in fact the norm , there was the chinese empire, the ottoman empire, the russian empire, the iranian empire, independent india, europe was, in fact, one of these poles, yes, some then according to there were conflicts on the borders of these civilizations, but they were not fatal. today the west says that we ensure order for everyone on our grounds, on our principles, and what if we stop fulfilling this? then a war of all against all will begin, a war of all against all - this is what they are doing now, that is, we cannot

accept their idea that their supremacy and hegemony ensures order, because simply because they are their genius does not provide any order, of course, a multipolar world will require art, but there are such precedents; if there are different civilizations, this does not mean that they will be hostile. look, for example, between russia and china there are friendly relations, partnerships, between china and india, there is a conflict , yes, but between india and russia there is no conflict, in the same way there is a certain conflict between india and the islamic world, but there is no conflict between russia and the islamic world there is no conflict, so there is no conflict between africa and latin america and russia, that is, russia is in such a position, not that it could offer its values, no, ours they are values ​​for us, they are traditional in relation to our people, our culture , our, our civilization, but russia could be a mediator, simply an example of different antagonistic directions within this

multipolar world, and somewhere, if the west agreed to this multipolarity , we could act together with him in certain circumstances, we would be interested, all of us would be interested, and the west would also be interested in accepting multipolarity in relieving these conflict tensions. allow, but just not the way the west does it. the west says: give up your own identity, accept lgbt, accept gender politics, accept technologies that turn people into machines, that is, accept artificial intelligence, accept a trip that prohibits industrial development by a whole huge civilizational bloc, then they say there will be no conflict than prove, we will simply be completely ... rude, how can you prove this, when conflicts are everywhere, when wars and the american trace in them are always traceable, that is, in fact,

when they say that without us the world order will collapse, in fact they have no proof , it’s just such a rhetorical figure, that is , now this world order, thanks to them , is bursting at the seams, it is on its borders, on the borders of civilization, in general it is not only independent from the west, but thanks to how... it is precisely the west that fundamental clashes are taking place, everything is bleeding, humanity is bleeding, not because we lack this unified western order, but because there is too much of it, there is no need consider civilizations to be of some kind irresponsible infantile formations, our civilization is a thousand years old, unlike the american civilization, which is several centuries old, we are ancient peoples and we know how to build relationships with each other, russia itself has built an order where there are no interfaith hardships, where there are no interethnic frictions, we have there has never been racism, neither russian, nor anti-russian, nor

mongolian, even in the era of the mongol conquests there was no racism, there were no inter-confessional clashes, so we have experience of how to establish order and peace in our own, in our own, on our territory, in our civilization, we can share this, by the way, we have our own experience, the chinese have their own experience, the hindus, the muslims, the africans, among the latin americans, so we must - yes, of course, we are not, this is not a panacea, ah, a multipolar world. but this is reality , we must accept it, because the attempt is now to offer all of humanity one system of rules, even if it is not the west, even if it is someone else, even if it will be china, for example, uh, then this will immediately lead to rejection, so now the most correct thing would be to agree to build a very careful one, namely through art, through diplomacy, through

an understanding of cultural dialogue. intercivilizational dialogue, interreligious dialogue, also, on the basis of this, build a multipolar world, and not say that it is obviously doomed to conflict, because this has not been proven, so we know that a unipolar world, so it leads to conflict, it is fraught with conflict , he gives birth, generates conflicts, he cannot cope with offering the world a model acceptable to everyone, for all of humanity, he has failed to cope with this... not only is he no longer able to, as soon as we say, muslims see an lgbt parade, they say, no, this is not a universal value, this is not our value, we will not accept it, just like with many other aspects of culture, education, science, information, no, this system is unacceptable to us, says the majority of humanity, and how can we keep it on such a basis? this is humanity under its

control, so there is an argument that a multipolar world is fraught with certain frictions, yes, it is not easy, but it is an art, and humanity is really quite experienced in building this multipolar model, especially since today we have, in fact, evidence that the west, in its unipolar model , does not solve any problems. alexan gilovich , thank you very much, but our president says that the construction of a multipolar world is a natural... process, you explain why this is so, and of course, apparently, another there is no alternative, but this is a conversation for even more time, unfortunately, it’s over, thank you very much, all the best, thank you, all the best, well, with this i, alexander karievsky, say goodbye to you, all the best to you

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