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[000:00:00;00] the conflict in the middle east is increasingly attracting attention, it has not left indifferent the large muslim community in the world, how believers react to the escalation of violence, defenders of israel in the united states, who are ready to stand on the side of tel aviv until the very end, protestants in support of the operation in the gaza strip, changes in american politics, like the conflict in ukraine, have changed the structure of the us political balance. hello, international review is on air, in the studio fyodor lukyanov. today the program includes international review. events of the week. chronicle, facts, comments. ground operation in the gas sector. who is ready to defend israel, materials from our program. the mechanism of influence of the muslim ummah, why is discontent growing on the streets? report from
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pakistan. when external tasks harm internal ones, a new cycle of american politics, a new line of division. the war in palestine turned the middle east upside down. shifts in recent years seemed to favor stabilization. pragmatic calculations pushed the arab states of the persian gulf to rapprochement with israel. a thaw has begun between iran and saudi arabia. even the iranian nuclear issue. acquired, despite the american zigzags, the contours of rational bargaining. they ignored the palestinian issue, did not see a solution, but did not consider it a serious obstacle to the rest. the hamas movement in one blow not only destroyed the entire structure, but forced the muslim world to react. not everyone is fond of hamas, but
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the israeli response, which the attackers were probably counting on, provoked emotional outburst among the islamic masses, and the rulers are extremely afraid of losing control. lokos pull from brazil, the drawing is called united nations, definitely united nations, are you sure? milka datista from italy, a key un resolution, this is how the drawing is signed. that one hangs at the top. closed for lunch, unusual image. allan mohr from australia, the drawing is called the un and the gas sector, by the way, this is the sign on the left, the other on the right is sudan. at the top there is a laconic signature, so the cavalry has arrived. simon rings from tanzania illustrates a situation in which israeli representative vaughn forced antonijusz to apologize for criticizing tel
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aviv. patrick chapat from switzerland with a drawing. almost ten years ago, a man who looks like netanyahu screams, the tunnels are destroyed, and the representative of the un responds, well, yes, all the bridges on the path to peace too, russia did not remain aloof from the passions awakened by the palestinian war, the events in makhachkala were heated up by outside forces unrelated to islam, but if military actions in the middle east as a whole were muslim. indifferent, rock extremist manifestations, maybe it would not have been possible. let’s talk about uma’s moods with an excellent specialist, akhmet erlykapov. akhmet, hello, the events in palestine have clearly stirred up the entire muslim world, a huge one, but how, what is this for muslims? is it something religious, humanitarian, political or something else altogether? yes, this is a very multidimensional problem, let’s say
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, for muslims. since, on the one hand, this is a religious and political problem, uh, many in the islamic world believe that this is the return of times crusaders, let's say, yes, and that this is what is happening now, this is the planting of such a similar outpost by countries - the west, let's say, yes, that is , israel is an instrument of the west, israel as an instrument of the west and as an analogue those crusader states that existed here in the middle ages, well, it is obvious that the longer the solution to the palestinian problem is delayed, the more radical the mood in general becomes among muslims, since you and i have now literally flown into the information world, and these pictures
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now... just online, and of course, this humanitarian part of the problem concerns more and more acutely, well , almost all muslims, since all... these pictures spread quite quickly through the cedi, well, there is clearly a difference between let’s perceive an ordinary person who can really empathize, the position of the authorities, political leaders, who may also empathize, but at the same time they immediately calculate all this for themselves personally, so to speak, president erdogan, for example, in my opinion, takes a very clear position, which has political prospects, can the leaders of major ones learn something from this for themselves? well, i think that , of course, during all these decades that the problem has existed, these states are drawing, in fact, yes, by the way
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, one of the very, one of the very serious, yes, one of the very serious claims, from the so-called street, yes, by their government, this is precisely what these governments are exchanging, the palestinians for some specific preferences for them, let's say so, yes, well, let's remember how many billions egypt receives in aid, yes, in fact, well, well , we can remember others, for example, here are the situations when the same muslim azerbaijan, and quite itself, is an ally to ally with israel, this gives very serious preferences
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, advantages, and in terms of solving the karabakh problem, we see this too, yes, absolutely, and how is the mood conveyed, so to speak, because well, we often hear, here is the mosque friday... prayer all over the world, suddenly one and the same message is disseminated everywhere, but how is this done, through what channel, yes, if before the mosque really was the center where opinions were formed, and so on, and this was natural, yes, because the entire community, the local one, should gather in a mosque, these local communities communicate with each other, this kind of thing was created. yes, and all this was transmitted through the mosque, then today the mosque, in general, is beginning to give up this position, it is very seriously giving up this
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position, now on a completely different level muslim networks, the most diverse, that is, we have sufi networks , we have various salafi networks, we have , that is, in one mosque on friday those who can gather... what happens already within these networks, it very often happens like this that people come to the mosque because it is the duty of a muslim to come to the mosque on friday to pray, but what the imam says, often to quite a few, is not interesting to those who came to friday prayer, or, well, they just came because they obliged to come, that is, it turns out that in in the muslim community, as elsewhere, now in social processes, it is rather fragmentation that is happening, absolute, yes, on the one hand there is fragmentation, on
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the other hand, these are very serious problems for the community, like the palestinian one, exchanges on them are easier, you see, that is, since... networks are still built into the global information sphere, yes, such a sphere, then, accordingly, information moves quite quickly, and from one network to another, in this sense, of course, with on the one hand there is fragmentation, on the other hand, well, some kind of relief, relief. some general, general points, let’s say. islam is the youngest of the world's religions. it originated in the 8th century ad on the arabian peninsula. its founder, prophet muhammad
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, created the first arab-muslim state in 622 with its capital in mecca. for the first 10 years until his death, he ruled himself. then his companions, the four righteous caliphs. abu bakr, omar, osman and ali. under them , the state began to be called the arab caliphate. muslims considered theirs religious duty, to spread islam with arms in hand and to unite new lands, this is how the arab conquests began. during the first 100 years of its existence, the arab caliphate was able to annex mesopotamia, iran, northern africa, spain and the caucasus. in the east, the arabs reached the indus river, capturing the lands of india and china. by the middle of the 6th century , the conquests were basically over, the capitals of the caliphate were changing. 661, under the caliphs of the amyad dynasty, the center of the moravian. became
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damascus, under the abassids from 750 over the next several centuries, baghdad. era the abassids were marked by the flourishing of the arab-muslim culture of science. among the scientists, military men and officials there were many people from the non-arab peoples of the caliphate. these were the muslim converts of mavalli. it is noteworthy that the iranian buyid and siljuk dynasties also conquered the caliphate . islam was fully or partially preserved in all territories previously conquered by the arabs, except for the pelinean peninsula. but islam came to indonesia and the philippines without war. it was brought absolutely peacefully by arab merchants and preachers from gujarat and bengal in the 13th and 14th centuries. now it is the second most influential world religion. the number of muslims around the world is a little less than 2 billion. 90%
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of all muslims... which you are talking about, they are supranational, transnational, they can be very different, the fact is that there are transnational networks and very powerful ones, there are, well for example, the transnational sufi haqqaniya network, it is very powerful, very serious, yes, it exists. national salafi networks, but we, for example, in russia have our own local networks, such transregional ones within russia, in particular, as an example, i would cite, for example, a very powerful sufi network in our country, the followers of said fundi cherkeevsky, who are represented today as representatives of the spiritual administration of the muslims of dagestan, for example. this is a very serious network that has gone beyond the borders
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of dagestan and is quite widespread throughout the country. but it turns out that if we take the point of view of the state, no longer of religion but of the state, the state probably needs these transnational networks limit to control stability? this is a very serious question, by the way, a very serious problem that faces all national governments , relatively recently, if you remember, france tried to solve something with this, but i would not say that france has something serious it turned out, the fact is that these same networks, due to the fact that they break all ideas about the organization, yes, that is, this is not a formal organization, there is no such directly formalized leader, and
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if you remove one, or rather, you buy one, a huge problem facing almost all states , by the way, this is what happened with israel and with these network structures, and the palestinian ones, this is an example of what absolutely wrong, incorrect management can lead to, because the same thing in fact, the creation of israel, that is, hamas was created as an opposition, and as such a humanitarian social project, which ultimately came out of the influence of the creator, in fact, today represents a huge problem for the creator, there are such examples in there is enough history, absolutely, yes, but what is happening now is real. this is a serious reason for the entire national
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government to think about it in this sense, because networks, of course, today, especially in the growing muslim segment, they are beginning to take on a fairly serious role. thank you very much, akhmetkapov was our guest. attention is focused on palestine, meanwhile, in another part of the muslim world, a deadline passed on wednesday for afghan refugees without permits to leave pakistan. those who don't did, islamabad threatens to deport. from pakistan, our regular author asim alirana. afghan refugees have been living in pakistan for almost half a century, in fact the third generation of afghans. the government and the un issued them
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refugee cards so they could obtain official status, but many afghans crossed the border illegally. i came here from kabul 40 years ago and am still a migrant. my parents died here and were buried here. according to the government of pakistan , there are now almost 4.5 million afghan refugees, of which only a quarter have passports or something similar, the rest live in pakistan without any documents at all. it is them that the government wants to expel from the country. you cannot be in any country in the world without a passport and... the time has come, from this month it will not be possible to enter the country illegally, and the one who did it earlier must leave pakistan, all his properties will be confiscated, for those who
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are living in pakistan illegally, the deadline has been set on the first of november, by this time all illegal migrants must leave the country voluntarily against those who do not leave, the authorities will take action, although the pakistani government has set a month deadline, in various parts of the country refugees are already being arrested and their mud houses are being demolished, like in this tent city in islamabad, refugees say that they do not have money to return to afghanistan, they ask how they will live this winter and what will happen to them in the near future. we want to go back to afghanistan, but we shouldn't be treated like that, we have small children, our houses are in afghanistan has been destroyed, there is no property left, there are refugee camps not only in islamabad, but in other parts of the country, and life is very difficult for afghan citizens everywhere, they have almost
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no chance of getting a job, they don’t want to go back to a foreign country, i don’t want to go back to afghanistan, because they are hostile towards me... and my children there, the taliban will simply kill us, many decades have passed since they came here, now other people live on their lands in their houses, and to return to afghanistan, they they’re just afraid, they should be allowed to stay here, but the pakistani government doesn’t want that, i have an afghan migrant card , but it’s very difficult to live with, they don’t want us here, no one rents us a place, and now they don’t allow us here stay. pakistan has long considered afghan refugees to be the country's main source of terrorism. in addition, it is believed that it is refugees who are engaged in smuggling currency, such difficult times for the pakistani economy. that is why pakistan decided to get rid of them. i was born here where should i go? i don't know the culture or
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customs of afghanistan. afghan refugees in pakistan were given only one month. to leave, but they say that they cannot do it in such a short time, their houses are being demolished, leaving them homeless, they demand that they be given more time to return so that they can start their lives again. hamas is sometimes compared to the taliban, an islamist movement but with nationalist roots. in israel, however, they are called the new isis, that is. an attempt to build a great caliphate, well the strongest supporters of israel in the united states also attach a supra-mundane scale to what is happening, the defense of the holy land from the saracens, the preservation of the jews there, the guarantee of the second coming of the savior and the advent of the kingdom
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free delivery, a scooter without extra expenses. look at the revival of the state of israel, all the prophecies of the old testament predicted that god would bring israel back, but there is one very special prediction: israel is the prophetic clock of the lord, when the jewish people are in israel, the clock is running when the jewish people are expelled from israel. the clock stops, i'll explain it in historical terms example. when the romans, under the command of titus, came to jerusalem in the seventieth year of christ, they besieged the city, and a million inhabitants died of hunger. they also drove 70,000 jewish men to rome to build the colosseum. the prophet's clock stopped; it started again only on may 14 , 1948, when the state was revived. "a country will arise in one day, a people will be born
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in one day, like zion, this country was israel, and its rebirth, the greatest miracle on earth since the resurrection of jesus christ. rev. john hegge, baptist pastor and television preacher, founder of christians united for israel, a movement of so-called christian zionists, a pillar of political support for israel in the united states, a prominent part of the huge community of american evangelicals. when asked whether religion is important in your life, nine out of 10 americans give a positive answer. the majority of believers are protestant christians. american presidents, only two were not protestants, john kennedy and the current joseph biden. in the current protestant congress
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a fifth of all live in the united states. protestants in the world, this is 75% of all african americans, and more than half of all whites, and about a quarter of asians and latin americans, most of the protestants in the southern united states, in the states of the so-called bible belt, mississippi, alabama, arkansas, tennessee, south carolina and kintukek. due to the strong religiosity of the population, these states are traditionally classified as part of the conservative electoral spectrum. and as a rule, since the second half of the 20th century , republicans have won elections here. in the usa, protestants are represented by many denominations, divided into small groups. most often they are united into three main branches: representatives of the first or traditional protestants, tend to see in christ not only god, but also a moral teacher who wanted to improve the lives of people on earth, without
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waiting for the coming of the kingdom of heaven. they are more tolerant of homosexuality. abortion and church reforms, often advocate social change, hold liberal views, and, according to her research, more often vote for the democratic party. representatives of the second branch, the so-called evangelists , in anticipation of the kingdom of heaven, are concerned about how not to violate the order established by god and not sin, and therefore adhere to extremely conservative views on issues of family, relations between the sexes, abortion, and the death penalty. white christians and evangelicals actively vote for the republican party and are loyal supporters of ex-president trump. for example, in the last elections they made up a fifth of all registered voters, about a third of all voters who belong to or lean toward the republican party. in addition, protestants and evangelicals play an important role in
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states like florida, where republican voters are split almost evenly. for them, the bible is an indisputable authority that should be interpreted literally. representatives of the third branch, the so-called black church, are mainly members of african-american communities. as a rule, they pay more attention to social problems, poverty, banditry, drug use and racism, and according to most polls they vote for democrats. barack obama, the first black us president. while still a senator, he repeatedly emphasized that it is the democratic party that sincerely cares about all minorities. joe biden made similar theses at the last election, and after his victory he appointed a black woman and an open lgbt representative
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, karine jeanpierre, as white house press secretary. pastor hegi gathers stadiums, he is a popular personality, but to put it very mildly, it is contradictory, but among him there is a little more moderate like-minded people, the third person in the us government hierarchy, the newly elected speaker of the house of representatives mike johnson, a republican of an extremely conservative persuasion. i know this as a christian, and we believe what the bible teaches us very clearly, we must be together with israel, the lord blesses the people who themselves were blessing israel, and we will achieve peace in jerusalem, absolutely. it is surprising to hear such argumentation from the highest stands at the end of the first quarter of the 21st century. but it's time to get used to it, francis fukuyama, the author of the unforgettable end of history, was waiting for the appearance of nietzschin's last man, the one who is not able to act according
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to his own comfort and does not believe in any ideals. did not happen, someone from the past is already rushing towards him from the past, someone who is not just waiting for the battle between good and evil, but perceives it literally, is about to be here. armageddon is a greek derivative of the ancient name of the place where one day the decisive battle between good and evil will take place, at least that’s what the apocalypse says, named after the first word by the last book of the new testament, the revelation of john the theologian. she describes the cataclysms and

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