[000:00:00;00] everyone discovers something new, here is the heart of industry, then following the corridor of history, you can hear stories from famous inventors and scientists, we have an immersive cinema, we have interactive models, a computing core, everyone finds something for themselves and i think that this exhibition is of interest to everyone, from young to old , in fact, thank you, well, in fact , in addition to the audience , the deputy prime minister of the russian federation, denis manurov, also got acquainted with the exhibition today, he

noted, specific samples of industrial products, what tasks are set for industries, what the government is doing, what tasks the president sets in order for our economy to be more developed and our products to be competitive. there are a lot of families at the international exhibition forum, namely families, parents with children, and in fact. denis manturarov also came today with his family, his wife and two children, that’s what they say, that ’s what their impressions were from visiting the exhibition of the minromdorg, and she continued to work, well impressions, of course, are difficult, extraordinary, impressions that evoke an extraordinary feeling of pride, pride in the scale

of the capabilities of our science and industry. the very fact that most of the exhibitions are presented in such interactive formats using the latest technologies , in particular vr, once again emphasizes that our country is not lagging behind, to put it mildly, it is actively developing in these directions, and this cannot but rejoice. exclusively a feeling of pride, admiration and simply the scale of everything that i saw, it really caused amazing emotions and feelings, the exhibition of the ministry of industry and trade was visited by more than 2000 people in 2 days, here you can find yourself in the past, present and essentially in the future , in the future industry of russia, from technological design to

production, quality, the latest developments, current professions, meetings with specialists in our world, here are some impressions , comments from people, let's listen, the scope is of course very large, and everything here is very interesting, i have never seen a different car, and in general, in principle, this is very educational, including for children, but we were told that it would probably be boring, but no, nothing like that, and since there is a lot of interactive stuff here, children always want to press something. it’s interesting for us to see our great russia , but a child needs to be taught this from an early age, yes tanya, you ’re interested, we’re very interested, well, in fact , we continue to work at the international exhibition forum russia, and it will be more interesting in the future, dmitry. yes, thank you, our correspondent

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to work in your own zone, merging is necessary in order to identify, deal very harshly with the sabotage underground, with the gangster underground, get ahead of the border, come to us , we are good, we are cool, we have candy, all sorts of things and it influenced the children, who were under 12 years old, under 10 years old , they tried to influence them through tiktok. like with some extreme friend, i don’t know, even if it’s a stupid act, they don’t quite understand that they do, this is the actual meaning, the concept is not an adult, he is not fully responsible for his actions, and our task, as adults, is to explain this to them, objectively, on the fingers. lugansk people's republic, outside the window the pyramid of coal mines rises, the chimneys of metallurgical plants smoke. it was here in the mid-thirties of the last century that alexey stakhanov set a world record

for labor productivity, grinding 102 tons of coal per shift, exceeding the norm by 14 times. but in 2014, after the coup in kiev, they changed it. we heard the styukh attack, the smell was still there, we thought it was electricity, when the light remained, we could see gunpowder, that’s it. this is what a residential building located in the city center looks like now; one rocket strike on the ssu was enough to completely destroy the second floor and collapse the ceiling of the first. the ukrainian army is attacking the front-line city, including with

rockets with cluster munitions, which kill dozens of people. the body of one of them is installed near the city administration, as a memorial sign, so that she brings as much damage as possible, in ssu, usually confirms the target. using reconnaissance, space or ground. in a combat zone , agents recruited by the sbu can target targets; as a rule, these are local residents, including teenagers. nikolai was one of them, he was 14, show me where he filmed from and what he filmed? somewhere near the technoleague, i was filming , i just came up in the open and took a photo, they didn’t tell you anything, no, they didn’t ask why you were taking photographs... and why were you taking photographs, tell me? well, at first i just decided to post it later. photos from russian with military equipment, he sent a telela to the chatbot, which is run under the nickname vostochny, allegedly a local resident who went to fight on the side of ukraine. in fact, it is

an intelligence collection tool for the special operations forces of the armed forces of ukraine. this is how openly on their page they call on the residents of stakhanov to commit a crime. all information will be processed according to its intended purpose , i am interested in everything, the locations of the armed forces of the russian federation, warehouses, the movement of equipment, places where personnel equipment accumulates, firing points, missile launch sites and even conversations grandmothers... he said that there are risks , what kind, well, that you need to act carefully, otherwise, with cameras, and so that there are no people, there are no cameras, just like that. the administrator of the telegram channel promised to pay generously for completing the task, says nikolai. eh, he offered to write inscriptions, stakhanov is ukraine, like this, for a fee, what? for one inscription from one to 2,000

hryvnia, but no one receives any money, persons involved in such activities by the ukrainian special services appear regularly, we are working, this teenager was exposed employees of the russian special services, says that now he repents, then he did not understand what consequences sending photographs with military equipment could lead to, that the military, now we are here, and a busy place, yes, there are people here, and military uniforms, just a resident of the city, you send a photo to this admin, the admin passes it on to the crew that launches the rockets, the rockets can fly here, they flew to your city, and you, and i, and these residents will not be alive, yes, i understand that, you understand this

now, yes, but did you understand then? not quite, you know, your friends could come to the same spot where we are now , you have them, yes, but how would you look your parents in the eyes later if you pointed at this spot, and here you have friends came on business, i would regret it, it would be a shame, well, i won’t bother with such garbage anymore, that’s already been said for sure. market square is a place where it is always crowded, especially on weekends, there is a line for hot pasties, and here junk dealers sell ukrainian hryvnias already like antiques, local residents and military come here to buy food, clothes, because the front valley is only a few kilometers away, you see there is military

equipment on the streets, so the textures. which may be interesting to the enemy, there is plenty here, to play spies, nikolai suggested to his classmate, he also subscribed to a pro-ukrainian propaganda channel and began to collect information about the movement of equipment with a z sign on board, i took three photos near the furniture house, all these photos were also well , well, they were made within a kilometer of each other, that is, you then sent - no, i sent it directly to him, here, directly, and he said , you can publish it, i didn’t answer anything, he already posted it, and i said, yes you can, he posted it, and there are some... then there were comments, based on the photographs you took, yes, that is, they are chasing one, the other, well, that is, they are just quarreling, no one in particular, you are bad, there is no mistake, that’s what’s happening there, what topics are being discussed there,

what they write about you, let’s say, uh, ukrainians, there, they’ll find all of you, whoever was there for russia, they’ll come and cut your throats, that’s it like this, he says that he acted not out of fear, but out of stupidity, i don’t know what came into my head then, to do this , look, you’re playing for all teenagers and maybe you wanted to do it in real life to play a war game, no more, like with a friend of some kind of extreme sport, i don’t know, i wanted to appear in front of each other about how we can , and by the way, this is also, well, this is the most stupid act, firstly, if you go there for money, this is firstly you, they may,

firstly, not even pay you, they will be detained for place, secondly, okay, you’ll be punished for these actions later anyway, thirdly, don’t get caught up in ukrainian propaganda, he was stopped in time, because the teenager didn’t understand that a photo is only the first step of a big game in which he was attracted by the ukrainian special services, then he would be blackmailed with these photographs, the next task could be to carry out a terrorist attack. you didn’t notice him going somewhere, taking pictures of something, sending something somewhere, right? nothing at all, well, that is, he behaved as he always did, yes, yes, in principle, yes, some. the words were chosen so that he would understand that this is really not a joke, as if i looked at it, first of all, i told him that our dad is also a military man, as it were, and he is now fighting at the front, right? yes, but he’s now wounded in the hospital, yeah, he’s lying in moscow, well , i looked at him somehow, said, i understand, he said, i

told him that anyone, just tell the truth, i’ll support you in any situation, because you are still my son, i will not give up on you, but you think that this is a consequence, do you understand what? this is not a joke, this is this is real war, this is real life, these are people dying, for the mother of a teenager the situation came as a shock, recently at work she was collecting humanitarian aid for our fighters, and here is such a betrayal, well, this is not normal, yes, well, i couldn’t leave for the first weeks, of course, i haven’t talked to anyone about this topic yet, i didn’t know how to say it, i was waiting, i think maybe now they’ll tell me exactly what it is like, i don’t, well, it doesn’t fit for me, i don’t i can, for me this is, i didn’t even believe that there was such a thing, that it was possible do, his peers, says the agent caught red-handed, in conversations they try

to avoid topics of politics, teenagers, which ended simply with their own, well, peaceful decision, that’s all. that is, they try not to discuss this topic, so that, god forbid, they don’t provoke someone’s anger, so i understand, right? well, it turns out that it is, well, just well, i think that well, at the age of 15 , let’s say, it’s difficult to form some kind of political interest in politics, i didn’t understand the essence of the issue in history, well, i watch some videos there on youtube, that interesting there. i see, well, it’s decided who is telling the truth, there on the ukrainian side, on the russian side, that’s why i find it very difficult, well, at 15 years old i simply cannot answer this question, responsibility for minor children lies with their parents and they will have to answer

reminds them, yana omelina, an expert on countering destructive content on the internet, here means all appropriate measures must be applied to parents, parents must first... be informed that these are not childish pranks, and if you think that the child will not be punished, you are sorely mistaken, yes, this will not be a criminal prosecution, the child should be at a minimum, which means removed from the family, placed in a special closed institution, i don’t think that any parent would wish such a fate for their child, in relation to the remaining children in this family, it is probably possible to consider the measures that guardianship will offer; if the parents do not fulfill their parental responsibilities, then, probably, their parental rights may be limited. in the relationships of the other children. i know it's terrible sounds, but in this situation there is no other way out, either the parents are responsible for the fact that the child never takes this path, or they answer with other children too. she says that the role of an adult who is next to a teenager cannot be underestimated; if close people do not take care of his upbringing and education, then

his enemies will. indeed, although we live in a wartime regime, de facto, in reality we have not completely switched to it, well then now to, of course, well, we have a humane society and this is correct, of course, we are not now we can act by the same methods as our predecessors acted there in the twenties of the last century, for example, of course , we cannot and should not, probably yes, we should act more by the method of persuasion, i generally come to the conclusion that we do not explain enough to children that in general happens, and well, after all, these are children , yes, we must understand well that they do not fully understand what they are doing, this is the actual meaning of the concept of a minor, he is not fully responsible for... our task as adults is to explain this to them in detail on the fingers, but without falling neither in excessive dramatization, on the one hand, nor vice versa in some kind of, you know, trickery or something, so we must explain that yes, these are our enemies and your enemies, what do you think, this is not a

game in a war, as naive as it may seem to some, yes, and yes, you really will ruin the lives of your loved ones, you need it. young people, how not to become an object of manipulation by the ukrainian special services in the national center for information countering terrorism and extremism, in the educational environment on the internet, methodological manuals have been developed. the center’s specialists give lectures at institutes on the topic of information warfare and talk about how to distinguish fakes from real events. there was an information war before, but the technology was simply much worse, information spread slower, now we essentially see a war, a war in... in information terms, in economic terms, online, you can look at the example of svo, you can look at an example of the arab-israeli conflict, especially now in its hottest phase, as this happening? how they are trying to use fakes, how they are trying to use propaganda and counter-propaganda in order to achieve some kind of advantage in

the information field. recruitment of young people in russia as spies for the armed forces is carried out mainly on social networks and instant messengers, says a center specialist, but not only. and here we can divide, relatively speaking, into several target audiences, these are the youth of the relatively old regions of the russian federation, there, let’s say, they try to believe among belgorod residents, among rostovites, among krasnodartsev, and so on, and here they are trying to influence some material aspects, because there are situations when the same drug addicts are involved in illegal activities, our colleagues from the department of the federal security service in the rostov region talked about how they caught one ezovets at the beginning this year , he was caught on the territory of the rostov region, under the guise of refugees, under the guise of a refugee, he entered our territory, into the territory of the region and tried to work with young people for recruitment. and here he has accumulated experience, in particular working with

drug-addicted youth, he has been working with drug-addicted youth in the city of lisechansk since the seventeenth year, if my memory serves me right, in order to recruit them, in fact, committing illegal activities, but how would recruitment happen, he would find these on the street people, or through drug distribution networks, and worked this way and that, but here it is important to emphasize that they can contact those who are in difficult life situations directly, try to establish contact with them, talk about weaknesses, talk about their weaknesses , talk about the fact that they have methods for solving them, here, in principle , the technology is so classic, this is a search on social networks, they look at people’s activity, look at their comments, look at what positions people express, then come into direct contact after collecting data, this direct contact is accompanied by an attempt to put pressure on some feelings, an attempt to give simple solutions to rather complex issues. the

ukrainian intelligence services are trying to use not only russian teenagers, but even children of primary school age living in border areas, we also saw videos where , through tik-tok, they tried to influence young people, young children in the belgord region, bryansk region, and where they were told: “ahead of the border, go to us, it’s good here, it’s cool here, we have candy, all that stuff and it had an impact.” they tried to influence children who are under 12 years old, under 10 years old through tiktok, that is, they use a wide range of materials, a wide range of methods, they stop at nothing, it is important to understand, donbass, and moreover, we even received the last issue, fierce, this is february of the twenty -second year, a printed publication that was aimed at residents of donbass, those territories that were part of there were donetsk and lugansk regions, which were controlled by ukraine. in the dpr, and why this was done, there were problems with the internet there for quite a long time, in lugansk now

there is also no mobile internet, that’s why they are actively distributing it among that there are problems with the internet, a war zone, everything is clear here, firstly, ideological pumping, or some modern ideological interpretations, or a mixture with history, if you read these publications, it was shown that ukraine is prospering, ukraine is a showcase, this a wonderful world, and the dpr - that is, these are the formats, such materials, but here it is important to emphasize that there are no new methods here , they used, let’s say, we studied the issue when they recruited there, let’s say european youth, not muslims, but indigenous people there , let's say, germans or french, we even came across one story when they recruited a german rapper who converted to islam in the radical interpretation of gilov and he began to create nasheeds, that is, muslim chants, them in rap format in order to attract more and more young people, that is, it is important to emphasize here that the method, in principle, bright colors, high-quality typographic printing, partly

funded under the auspices of the un. the comic seems to be about the history of the musical movement, only the heroes in it politicized, so in the east of ukraine the west tried to form its own protest community among young people, the comic itself consists of several storylines of children who grew up in donbass, but who... took the ukrainian side, and it’s interesting there, one of the publishers chose the russian side, we watched russian-language news, for example, there was one story when it was shown when the events began in kramatorsk in slavyansky and so on, and there a child was from this territory, and he said that i am ukrainian, and my the parents are russian, why so and so on, and he showed this contrast, here this contrast, the russian language, was introduced. this is the language of the enemy, the language of the enemy, and the ukrainian language is the language of truly brave soldiers, in another, another

storyline ukrainian soldiers were shown, colorful, this... comic, they were shown almost in the form of some kind of knights, our soldiers were shown in the context, you know, shadows, that is, without face shadows, the punishment of imprisonment according to russian law can be applied from the age of 16, this is one of the arguments for ukrainian recruits, the chairman of the commission of the public chamber of russia for the development of the information community , alexander malkevich, advocates tightening the legislation to counter sabotage work. to work in the front lines. regions, studio russia-24, here at the exhibition russia at the vdk continues its work, now opposite me, the minister for the development of the far east and the arctic, alexey chakunkov, alexey olegovich, hello, good afternoon, let's start with the exhibition itself, each region is represented here russia, but of course, all the regions that are part of the far eastern federal district, what impressed you personally the most and maybe you also gave some ideas on how

to present these regions? i certainly mean it sincerely. i am convinced that the far east is the most dynamic, most energetic region of russia and here on the russia frum, this is clear as never before, our huge compass, our uh, slogan, we are the far east, uniting the regions, a huge queue at the entrance to the kamchatka volcano , all this sets the mood right at the entrance, so just as russia begins from the far east, every new day begins. in russia, so from the territory of the far east, the russian forum-exhibition begins, i believe that our idea is to unite the far eastern regions with a common meaning, in the exhibition you are also conducting a far eastern quest, what is it, who takes part in it? i have been associated with the far east, with the north for 20 years now, and i never cease to be amazed at what an amazing

history of the development of these regions, the movement of russia. in those days, almost 500 years ago, without technology, without railways, without aviation, without equipment, in a matter of decades we have reached from today ’s arkhanel region to the pacific ocean, and i am sure that every russian, especially every young person, every schoolchild, every student, must know how and general history, as well as its brightest touches, its brightest representatives, here is a far eastern quest using a combination of